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We all liked the part where the Methodists said "It's Methodin' time!" and then they methoded all over the places. Truly one of the methods of all time. 🧪⚗🧑🔬👨🔬👩🔬🧂⚕
I'm Catholic and many of our priests actually say this: If you live truly and sincerely your faith, the church does not matter. You will be saved. See ya in heaven, protestant bros.
Look, I don't know what church you are and I don't want to argue much so I'll respectufully give you my honest belief. Yes, I will go to heaven because Jesus unlocked it for me. Yet I'm free and capable of rejecting His sacrifice by sinning, so I have to work on that.
@@paldennorbu8808 No, I don't believe in Sola fide as a Catholic. Faith without works is dead, as James has written in his epistle. What is your church then?
@@jozefhorvath7129 This I agree with, but nobody can be 100% certain they're going to heaven, so saying "See you in heaven" is incorrect. And I am Eastern Orthodox.
Presenting Christianity as a decision tree honestly is a great way to frame things. For me, that question of Bible or Church is/was incredibly important as I grew out of simply worshiping with one denomination simply b/c it's we're my family went.
Not really, you only need to look at Church history and read what the Church Fathers wrote, to understand how the Eastern Orthodox Church is the Church that Christ himself established 2000 years ago.
It's a sticky point because Christianity and the church predates the Bible by many decades. Indeed, most of the early Christians were illiterate anyway.
You missed the part about the Dutch Reformed, who differ from other reformed traditions on the theological question of "should mints be passed around during service?" to which every other group simply responded "What?"
This made me laugh out loud. Way too real. My reformed church couldn't install motion activated lights in the sanctuary because they turn off 5 minutes into the service
I spent almost a year trying out church services from different denominations before finally landing on Baptist. I accepted Christ as my savior and did the full-body baptism. My faith is now the most important thing in my life. Praise God!
Of the major denominations, IMO Baptist is the most theologically correct. It sticks closely to the Bible, and is generally conservative theologically and socially. The only thing I may disagree with them about is that the gifts of the Holy Spirit stopped near the end of the 1st century. While the authoritative writings I think stopped then, I see no reason to think the Holy Spirit wouldn't continue to imbue believers with various gifts as He sees fit today, but that is a pretty small different so I would feel comfortable in almost any Baptist church(tho i attend Calvary Chapel, which essentially Baptist but does allow the possibility of Holy Spirit gifts).
@@mattm7798 Thanks, I agree! Baptists also tend to stick with the KJV, which is the best translation IMO. They are also very serious about soul winning and sharing the gospel!
@@beautifulllstars If you like KJV, then you might also want to check out NASB. It uses more modern language, but it is a more literal translation than KJV.
@@beautifulllstars My beliefs also align most with the Baptist church after years of developing my beliefs and learning from many different sources since college. I would definitely say that the KJV Bible is a solid translation, but I think the ESV, and NIV are also really good. But the best is when you do a comparative analysis of all 3, and then also check out the original Greek or Hebrew when you are really looking to understand an important piece of Scripture!
What an informative video. As a Protestant, or perhaps a Congregationalist, I believe the common faith all Christians share. Sadly, I also see the corruption and the inappropriate things churches have done.
@@Mr_Sarcasum It depends. Some Orthodox don't have a problem with the Filioque per se, but they object to its inclusion in the Creed. Others do consider the Filioque to be a heretical innovation.
East and West have generally (but no universally!) agreed upon a trinitarian formulation that satisfies both traditions. While there are other nuanced differences, the most prominent is the papacy.
@@Mr_Sarcasum Only among hard-line modern Orthodox. Some modern Orthodox agree with the Latin and Greek Fathers that "through the Son" is an acceptable statement of how the Spirit proceeds, and Rome has clarified that this is what the filioque means (CCC 248). As the late Metropolitan Kallistos Ware said: “The filioque controversy which has separated us for so many centuries is more than a mere technicality, but it is not insoluble. Qualifying the firm position taken when I wrote "The Orthodox Church" twenty years ago, I now believe, after further study, that the problem is more in the area of semantics and different emphases than in any basic doctrinal differences." The question of papal supremacy is undoubtedly the major point of division between Catholic and Orthodox.
As a Methodist, I’d revise your take that our actions are more important than our beliefs, solely because it kind of sounds like a faith-by-works deal. I’d say something like “The Lord convicts us to enact His will.” I also say “Scripture informs my faith, my faith informs my actions.” I appreciate the time you take to look into the different denominations!
I like how you put that. I'm looking for a church to join but not exclusively for worship. I love the idea of joining a church that is involved and helps in the community. I feel closer to God when I shake the hand of a stranger and saying "God Bless you" than I do after a service. 🙏
What is meant by faith being more important than work? how is faith distinguished from belief in this context? How is it not just work that never leaves your head?
I am Christian. However, I avoid organized religion like the plague. I have a personal relationship with God and read His word daily. He manifests His existence in my life often. He sends me blessings to demonstrate I’m on the right path. God sends me Christians to fellowship with in my daily life. He grants me miracles often. He also sends me people who need salvation. What does God expect from any of us? That’s simple: faith, love, praise and gratitude. Jesus saves!❤
"I have a personal relationship with God" No, you don't. A relationship requires TWO active parts, and your god does exactly nothing. I have no idea what you mean with "manifests in your life", but you are surely not experiencing the presence of some magical being. Hey, after all, gods roam dimensions BEYOND human perception, so anyone claiming they'd experience such being are simply liars. Liars-people claiming things they have no evidence for. Liars like you. I bet you have zero evidence for any of your god-related claims.
@@arandomchannel1334 So you’re God? People like you are the reason organized religion repulses many followers. I am more devout than you hypocrites. God talks to me directly. When’s the last time He spoke to you?
@@arandomchannel1334 it’s people like you that make organized religion corrupt and revolting. To you church is a license to sin. I prefer not to be surrounded by hypocrites. Thank you. If that makes me heretical, then you should let God know. I read His word daily, and live by its command. In return, He loves, and talks to me in many ways. He is pleased with me, and the metamorphosis I have undergone in His presence. I pray you can feel Him work in your life, as I do in mine.
I would like to add for lutherans, since the whole faith alone vs faith with works is often a bit misunderstood. Works very much are expected of you as a lutheran, it's just that no amount of works will ever bring you salvation, only faith in Christ will. You do not earn salvation by doing good, you do good to show thankfulness to God for the salvation you have already been given by way of Christ's death on the cross and His resurrection.
Would like to contrast it with my Catholic view, which is also often misunderstood: For us, faith in Christ also requires believing in the teachings of Christ. Belief in those teachings materializes in works. Saying "Lord, Lord" is not faith. You need to show your faith in your works, just like how Abraham showed it through being willing to sacrifice his son to God. That is how we explain Romans and Jacob both being true.
Honestly, let's appreciate how rich Christianity is. I find Christology truly fascinating. It can get really deep, it dances with Philosophy and it also provides spiritual experiences with a root in mystery. I considered myself an atheist, deist at most, for decades, and with a deterministic and physicalist worldview where I left no room for religion. But I've been getting into theology lately and Christianity is such a big iceberg of thought, culture, tradition, History, Philosophy and faith, that it's fascinating by itself. Despite all the denominations, the core aspects are always the same, Christ saving us.
Former atheist myself, and you are so right. I used to believe the common cultural assumption that it was ridiculous, outdated fables...watching Jordan Peterson's biblical lectures totally blew my mind...Blessings to you
@@T.D.F.M No it just shows you that Satan wants to keep you far from the truth. That’s why there’s different denominations to confuse you. Salvation is simple believe in Jesus Christ and you are saved. “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.” John 6:47 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” John 3:16 “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.” Romans 4:5 “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.” John 3:36 “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” Ephesians 2:8~9 “And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.” John 10:28 “And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.” John 6:40 “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.” John 5:24 “And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.” Acts 13:39
@@qwnpngwn672 Jordan Peterson is basically atheïst. He just thinks you should believe in a religion (preferably christian) because he thinks you'll behave better. When pressed on whether he actually believes biblical stories such as the resurrection, he never confirms this. It's a cowards way out imho. If you don't believe, just say so.
I watched your first video on what each Christian denomination is was good. But this one is presented in an even better format for understanding. Thank you and good job!
@fredjimbob2962 Clearly, you are uneducated in Catholic theology. If you think Catholics believe only Catholics can go to heaven, you are mistaken. Read Vatican II if you are actually interested in educating yourself.
Never watched your videos. Never heard of your channel. But was thinking earlier today that I needed to find a video just like this. Didn’t look it up or anything. And then found this in my feed. Idk what that means but I’m subscribing lol
That's more of a Wesleyan thing than a Pentecostal belief. Some Pentecostals carried entire sanctification over from Methodism, but it's largely ignored today. And the Assemblies of God, the largest Pentecostal denomination, has never taught entire sanctification. Wesleyan churches (Methodist, Nazarenes) in recent years have begun to restate the teaching of entire sanctification in terms of total consecration to Jesus as opposed to "never sinning again".
@@Ari-to3qmAs a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (often shortened to LDS or Mormon) we also don't baptize babies because we believe that being baptized should be a display of agency. It's cool seeing that another Church shares that position
Interesting video. Ive watched your other videos on the denominations and they all are quite good and informative in a easy to understand way. You probably get this alot but your excellent at telling and explaining information in an effective and clear way. I'll be sure to keep up with your videos as best i can
I found this very helpful. It's easy to find lists of things that different denominations believe but much harder to find A/B comparisons like this. When I was in the US in the 90s I knew several people talking about which denomination they were and how they would only go to that type of church. When I asked what the actual differences were in what they believed they simply didn't know. They just knew how they were brought up and were going to stick to that. I have been interested in comparisons of different denominations since then. This is the best thing I have found so far on the subject. 👍
As a pentecostal, I think "Should we speak in tongues" would be a better question. "Must we" gives the impression that baptism in the Holy Spirit is a requirement for salvation, which the overwhelming majority of pentecostal churches reject.
The correct translation is not speaking in tongues, but speaking in languages. The Greek word for tongue is "γλωσσα" pronounced "glossa". But glossa is also the word for language. This is meant to refer to a phenomenon where two people can communicate with one another without knowing each other's language. I speak to you in Greek, and you can understand fully what I am saying, you then answer me in English and I understand you fully (assuming I do not know any English). I have heard a couple of personal testimonies from foreign speakers who were able to communicate with newly canonized Greek Orthodox saints by speaking in languages.
Lutherans say yes to needing leadership (aka Bishops though we may use different names such as president). It's in the Augsburg Confession. Just because we called out corrupt Bishops abusing their authority does not mean we think them unnecessary. On the other hand, if a bishop was to use their authority against scripture then said bishop loses their authority and ought to be disobeyed. AC Article 28 explains the above in better detail.
@CheekyHaggis We don't necessitate it but it is cool to have. I'm a Lutheran pastor without apostolic sussession. It would have been cool if I had it, but even though I don't that doesn't negate my ordination. So good on Sweden for having it. Article 28 covers this a bit, but the Solid Declaration and other documents covers such in more detail. Looking at the history of Lutheranism in America before 1776 also bring to light why apostolic sussession was encouraged but not mandatory.
This is one the best explanations I ever heard about the differences between the Christian denominations. I particularly love how the key unique features of a certain denomination are succinctly described. The explanation about the theological differences are especially welcome.
This was great. As a child of divorced parents I go to two churches and one is baptist one is non denominational so I’m glad I can understand it better
If you like this topic there's a channel named ready to harvest that goes into way more details about various denominations and their relationship with each other. Usefulcharts also did a great video on that topic.
I think this flowchart is very-well organized and very easy to understand! Great job! I do want to clarify that in the Baptist faith, some people can be born again very young, and for a lot of those people we can’t pinpoint a specific time where we had a born again experience. I think the born again experience happens the moment you believe in Jesus and His promises, whether that happens at 2 years old or 20 years old.
Christ established one Church united by the apostles. If your church is not apostolic, you are in a false religion. "But he that shall scandalize one of these little ones that believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone should be hanged about his neck, and that he should be drowned in the depth of the sea." [Matthew 18:6]
@@edukaeshn There's 2 definitions of apostolic, one is the authority of the apostles in the New Testament, the other is pretty much the authority of the Pope. I'd say that yes, you need to follow the first one to be part of the Church, I don't think the second one is a requirement, or even necessarily good. And if you're referring to the second one, that same verse could very well be put against you if you're wrong.
@@edukaeshn Now I'm not sure if you're doing this in good faith anymore. That verse is in the middle of statements about law, so there's that, and some questions take more than a yes or no, such as when the same sentence could be asking 2 questions as what happened here. I think these conversations are good to have, we need to keep each other accountable, but they need to be in good faith to work effectively.
when he said, "Lets start with the Baptists!" I winced and said, "here we go!" He did well explaining our faith though! I think he could have emphasized the Priesthood of the Believer aspect of the faith some, but he hit the broad brushstrokes.
This chart is awesome and so is this video. Brief, informative, and gets to the most important questions of what Christians believe and practice. It is a credit to this channel.
I've been wondering if I should become Noahide instead of agnostic as I still believe there is a God but don't believe Jesus is the Messiah or that has kingdom ever came. No one ever talks about Jesus running around saying the kingdom of God is at hand and it's been 2,000 years. Catholics saying the kingdom.is the church just seems too convenient. I still like his parables though.
I am a Pentecostal Christian and I have never heard from all the churches I have attended to be completely sinless based on works, dedicated to God and the church. As far as I know only one can be blameless and that is Jesus.
As a Pentecostal, I don't think we'd say people must speak in tongues, we would just say that people can speak in tongues, and it is beneficial to do so.
Why is there 0 apologetics around tongues? I grew up in a church that spoke tongue, non-denom. I said to myself, if this is real, it should be translatable. I said to myself, if this is real, it should glorify God and be useful. In the end, after reading what happened in the Bible, regarding tongues and seeing the church. I saw that in the Bible, people understood the person speaking tongues, and it was useful and it was glorifying God. Yet in the church, the only people that can "understand it" seem to be using their imaginations, as the words seemingly mean nothing on their own. It seems also vain, and meaningless as we all speak the same language.
I love your videos! My boyfriend is a new Christian and he showed me your channel, he finds it so helpful. Watching your videos gives me a really strong sense of nostalgia from my childhood when I was first introduced to the Christian faith by my RE teacher, who was a strong influence in how I came to Christ. You are amazing and sending love and prayers that your channel meets people who need Jesus in their lives. Much love, brother!
I really like how informative all your videos are. I am an atheist but I find religion to be very interesting and your videos provide a thought provoking informative view of Christianity.
The description of the Baptist theology of salvation by grace through faith alone Fits Presbyterians as well and is more standard across reformed (protestant) churches. Aside from not baptizing children, the main difference Baptists have is that they are independent of each other, similar to congregationalist churches.
Love the vid! Thanks! I was born in the SDA church and could not stand EGW and left for the Baptist church. (I was wondering why others I knew could not feel the same way, but I see why so clearly from your vid). How the Baptists view Jesus is how I innately felt and explains 1) why I left and 2) why others think their church is right. Because we all start from different premises.
Currently in the process of leaving the SDA church and going to a Baptist one as well! It’s been absolutely mind-boggling seeing the lengths and mental gymnastics people go through to defend EGW’s writings and alleged visions. Praying for my family and former church family that’s still being deceived by that church 🙏
@@sparkstudies1675 Nope. I recommend watching Allen Parr’s video(s) on Adventist beliefs. They’d like you to believe their denomination is just Baptist theology with Sabbath and veggiemeat lol. I don’t know if Redeemed Zoomer will ever do a deep dive on some of these denominations but many RU-vidrs have so the info is out there if you’re interested :)
@hardworkinggymnerd1964 Brother this a weak argument against the church. Either the SDA teaching are correct or they aren't. If you left the church because of Ellen White, Becoming a baptist isn't the answer. There are a bunch of beliefs of the SDA church that a baptist couldn't believe in which would all have to magically become false because the writings of a woman in the 1800s are being questioned.
As a Catholic, it's very gratifying to see a honest and smart protestant content. Here in then internet it's really hard to see a good channel of apologetics (in both catholic or protestant sphera), so I just want to congratulate you. And your historical aproach was very precise too
I am about to finish a year off of church after being disenchanted by the evangelical church again and again. This is a helpful synopsis when looking to get back into church and try out different ways of experiencing G-d in community. For 2024 I am lining up services in the Eastern Orthodox, Episcopalian, Methodist, Presbyterian, and Lutheran churches to begin with. Thank you for the help!
Warning! You will be dissapointed in eastern orthodox service if you are used to a western one. They tend to sing everything and it is only the priests/choir who are at voice. It will be priests walking around and singing prayers which you will have hard time understanding.
Of course not, but that is not a case against denominations. In heaven, if we have a question, God will be right there to answer it. Down here on Earth, we have to interpret things for ourselves, and as long as we still have the essentials, it is ok to disagree, and form denominations.
@mrjohnson1627 the church is the bride of Jesus. So the church is what interprets what the bible means For example you and your wife. who is more qualified to explain to me what you actually mean when you speak? Some random person that heard you, or your wife?
It would be interesting if you did a part two with more radical denominations/daughter religions like unitarians, universalists, (unitarian-universalists even), latter day saints, seventh day adventists, etc.
The SDA wobble from unitarian at their founding to trinitarian in (I think) the 1950s is one of the odder changes of denominational belief out there. I don't see how anyone can regard the Jehovah's Witnesses, the LDS church or the Christian Scientists as credibly Christian, personally. They've all simply added too many novelties of belief, and I tend to give the definition of Christian as much latitude as possible. (e.g. SDA I do think are Christian, though a bit, well, weird). I suppose the argument all those groups would make is they've somehow "restored" Christianity, meaning everybody else are the ones who aren't Christian. Fair enough, though all are in a rather dubious position in terms of any kind of historical review. Kind of like the Alawites and Ahmadis in Islam. They think they're Muslim, most Muslims disagree. And Islam being Islam, well, we know how that plays out in Syria and Pakistan.
@@thelasthandbook6704 I’ve heard that position before. Then again I’ve also known protestants and catholics who, in the modern day, argue the other isn’t christian. I’m agnostic so I don’t really have a stake in the matter. The way I see it they’re fellow Abrahamic religions that are, at the very least, descended from protestant christian traditions. So on the tree in the video they would have their own branches, whether or not one considers them “truly christian”. They sure call themselves christian, at the very least. Of course, an exploration of Jewish and Islamic denominations would be more like the roots and sister tree of the metaphorical branching tree of christian denominations. I think LDS, Jeovah’s witnesses, etc. are more closely related to protestant Christianity (at least in the USA) than islam or maybe even judaism, just given the history and cultural proximity.
There are also a ton of smaller Protestant denominations of that float somewhere between Baptist and Methodist. (Saying Baptists are unique in not baptizing infants for example is very incorrect.) Usually they draw their tenets from some blend of Wesleyan and Calvinist theology.
I think most Baptist also believe that Baptism is the act of your old self die and being raised again with Jesus, but one thing I have struggled with is that I was born a Christian so I’ve never really had a born again experience, I’ve always known Jesus and God and while when I was younger I didn’t really understand what was going on I now follow Christ with all my heart
I have a similar story where I was raised christian and I can't pinpoint the moment or even a year when I was saved, at one point I then decided that I want to get baptised, when I was sure in my faith and my parents had also made sure I understood what being baptised means.
From a Lutheran perspective, we really de-emphasize the "experience" aspect of salvation. At the final judgment, God isn't going to look to your salvation "experience". People experience being born again very differently. For Paul, it was a real night-and-day difference. For Timothy on the other hand, the faith was passed down and he grew up in faith (2 Timothy 1:5). We don't have this crazy conversion experience for Timothy. But it doesn't make Timothy's faith any "less" than Paul's. Our Lord said that faith even as small as a mustard seed could move mountains. Also remember the parable of the prodigal son in Luke 15. To the son who had always served and obeyed, who didn't have this crazy conversion experience that the prodigal son had, the father nonetheless said, "Son, you are always with me, and all that is mine is yours."
You can be born and raised into Christian cultures and rulesets, but upon knowing the gospel, you have to make the decision for yourself to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour. Christianity is not a country or government - you can not be put into it at birth, and no one can declare you a Christian against your will. The entirety of Romans chapter 10 explains this, drawing parallels between the Christians of the first church, and the Jews of the Old Testament.
@@jncp5965 We should be careful not to mistake "faith" for a decision we make. It is the Holy Spirit who creates faith, and since it is the Holy Spirit rather than our own will, any decision at a given point in time is not really relevant, as it may or may not represent when faith was given to us, and is not the cause of that faith. You can be brought up as a baby into the new covenant of grace by baptism, in the same way babies were brought up into the old covenant by circumcision on their 8th day of life. That is a precious gift to be given, but like all gifts, it can be rejected by the baptized later in life, through their own decision to abandon their birthright (parable of the prodigal son). Faith is a trust in the Lord for salvation, and we know for a fact that infants can have this trust, directly from scripture, meaning that the holy spirit can and does work in babies even absent any visible capability for "making a decision". "Yet you are he who took me from the womb; you made me trust you at my mother's breasts. On you was I cast from my birth, and from my mother's womb you have been my God." -- Psalms 22:9-10
Wow, very interesting. Being a former Protestant and now Catholic, I don't really fight over these differences anymore, rather find it interesting how each church or denomination interpret things, they all kind of make sense when explained the way you do. Now I understand a bit more why the filioque matters to Catholics and Orthodox reject it. You explained it beautifully. Some of these subtle differences are like countries, such as US and Canada, Australia and New Zealand, China and Taiwan, Malaysia and Singapore, etc, countries that are culturally and linguistically similar yet still different.
The thing about the first question is that before I found orthodoxy and knew what Catholicism was I would have said yes, but knowing that the church and the traditions taught by Jesus, came before the Bible now, I say no and it’s hard to be anything but Orthodox or Catholic if you hold that belief ☦️
You are right, because Jesus founded a Church, not a book. Not only that, He gave the Church authority to bind things on Earth like in Heaven, and the Church got the keys to Heaven. And Jesus guaranteed that the gates of hell will not prevail against the Church. The Church many, many years later decided that it would be a good idea to compile a book as a tool, one of many tools to help follow Christ. And Protestants came and put this text above the Church, as if the Christian faith could be limited in a mere text, they decreased the number of books included in the compilation, and proceeded to deny any way to follow Jesus that is not explicitly stated in their version of the book. And it only led to continuous branched divisions and stone throwing among Christians. It's madness.
technically scripture (OT) existed before the apostolic church, the church just compiled scripture into what we know as the bible. All scripture is God breathed so yes God did give us the scriptures and He also gave us the church
@@neochris2the jews were compiling scriptures (not in book form) long before the apostolic church. you can keep trying to credit the church for everything but it’s God who gave us the scriptures and preserved them. The Church is also not limited to the confines of your institution but it rather encompasses all true believers everywhere.
Jesus founded a Church, and God gave men his Word through the Bible so that we can learn and understand. I would rather believe entirely on the words of the Apostles than submitting to a tradition that they not only did not express, but that directly contradicts them (see indulgences). The Bible is not "a mere text".@@neochris2
I think the first question is very interesting to me. Yes, the Church came before the New Testament of the Bible, but the Bible is our main resource from back then to know the teachings of Jesus and the apostles. I think the question should not necessarily be which has more authority, but if their should be a "church government" or not. The Pope is not The Church. Catholic leaders have done many messed up things, and so have some of the "saints." Should we listen to them when things they say don't line up with scripture? The Protestants opened it up for the common man to determine the truth for themselves through scripture instead of just listening to "church authority." The protestant movement opened us up to interpret scripture for ourselves and believe what we think it says and is right. I think the difference is that Protestants believe the Church is all people who believe in Jesus and follow Him, whereas the Catholics believe the Church is those who believe in and follow all of the church fathers and leadership. (I'm using the words "Catholic" and "Protesant" loosely to describe those on each side of this first question.)
On the Filioque, the reason Orthodox also advocate for it is because Christ literally says in the gospels that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father. This was also the agreed upon phrasing for the whole church when the Nicene Creed was created.
@@misterkittyandfriends1441 yes it was added centuries later. Redeemed Zoomer seems to think the Filioque was in the orignal text. John 14:16 and 14:26 shows that the spirit proceeds from the father alone through Christ. Redeemed zoomer is flat out wrong. He can take the unbiblical route, I don’t care. But he is very ill-informed on church history and seems to only listen to Gavin Ortlund on the matter
@@ItsThatGuy1989 That verse does not mean that the Holy Spirits proceeds from the Father, but rather that the Father is the one to send him to the world. John 14:16 says nothing about how the Holy Spirit came to be, just how he will be sent into the world.
@@rafexrafexowski4754 the early church fathers at the council of Nicaea disagree it appears. And the text points to the spirit coming from the father. Show me where it says the spirit proceeds from the son
But he didn't say, that the Holy Spirit didn't proceed from him. You can't get an argument out of silence. The Holy Spirit does proceeds from the Father, and the Son.
I'm Catholic, but I started shifting more and more to Protestantism, especially the Lutheranism. I realized that I basically don't pray to Saints and Mary, don't really believe in purgatory and buying prayers for the dead and I became sick of the corrupted priests
@@JML42 I feel like nowadays people pray more to Mary and Saints than to the Holy Spirit. I'm from Poland and during summer we have a harvest festival. The figures of Mary used in the festival are very similar to the slavic goddes of harvest and nature Mokosh. It's like we literally took the old gods and changed them to Mary and Saints. Also treating paintings of Mary like they are magical and they cure you when they should be just a symbol.Taking parts of the dead people to make relics. It just feels wrong.
And it's not like I want to leave. My family are Catholics and I don't want to hurt them. I just have issuses and it's hard because church teaches that dogmas are holy and you shouldn't question them.
Despite being atheist I found this highly informative and insightful. I have friends who are religious and this helps put things in perspective for me. Thanks for the quality, non-judgmental video
Even as an atheist, this Chanel gives me some really good information and I like learning about different religions! This Chanel has really helped me have an understanding about Christianity because the different denominations always confused me, thank you for helping me understand Christianity!
The Scandinavian Lutherans have an episcopal church structure too. I found myself fully agreeing with the Anglicans and fully agreeing with the Lutherans simultaneously in this rundown of a presentation.
@@Nonz.M And then Baha'i kicks that accept-wide-variety up another notch. I know Baha'i is not typically thought of as having a Christian denomination aspect, but given that they do incorporate the Bible, including the New Testament, it is arguable. But then the flowchart would have to start even before the Bible v Church question.
What’s so beautiful is that the common denominator between all of these “titles” is that we all believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God and He died on the cross to save us from hell. I think it’s important to not let slightly different beliefs make you treat anybody else with disrespect. This is the body of Christ and we should love them nonetheless. 🤍🤍
I enjoyed looking at your chart lol. I'll try to listen to the video at a later date, but I saw the thumbnail and wanted to come read really quick. Thank you for the video in advance! God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)
4:04 When you research all these studies the Catholic Christian church did, you'd be surprised how much wisdom and common sense is in there. It just takes humility to open yourself to researching the truth and asking for God's grace to see the truth and not be led astray.
I'm pentecostal and I have never heard about the "becoming so holy you don't sin in this life" from anyone anywhere. Maybe it comes from the fact I'm not American, but part of the Finnish pentecostal church🤷♀️
Its called Perfectionism, it's not something that you'll generally hear, most consider it heretical. In my 30 years of Christianity I've never met a church that holds to it. It is NOT a mainstream Pentacostal belief.
Yahusha tells us to "Be perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect" Matthew 5:48 "This is the message which we have heard from Him and declare to you, that God is light and in Him is no darkness at all. If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin." I John 1:5-7 "Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked." I John 2:3-6
To Forgive The teaching of Forgiveness is so important, especially in the wars of 2023. When we forgive we release the chain's of the past. Be at peace to you one and all ❤❤❤
Hey dudes, im an atheist really into theology and gotta say, i love these videos, even if i disagree with most views you have (mostly im progressive mixed capitalism while you are conservative)
@@doinic09that's right but we are responsible for our beliefs. I'm Catholic but I'm considering joining the Orthodox Chruch because I also consider that we can't be guided by a single man (the pope) who have had the highest authority throughout the history but a net of bishops all of them working in equality and humble
In all things, LOVE. I hate to see Christians arguing with one another about who is more correct than the other. Let’s all continue to fight the good fight and spread the Gospel.
No one on the left argues that the church has "more authority than the Bible." Rather, we argue that the church's INTERPRETATION of the Bible has more authority than your INTERPRETATION of the Bible. I have noticed that Protestants have a very difficult time distinguishing between their interpretation of scripture and scripture itself.
I mean, the church put the Bible together originally. Before the council of Nicea there wasn't consensus on which books were divinely inspired. And to this day, Catholics include a couple extra, though it's a pretty minor difference. There's a similar split in Judaism between Beta Israel (the Ethiopian Jews) and the others - the Ethiopians have Enoch iirc.
@stardorminey9799 I agree with you. I'm just saying that protestants have a very difficult time comprehending the fact that their interpretation if scripture is just one of many interpretations. They present the issue like the Church (Orthodox, Romam Catholic, etc) are ignoring parts of the Bible in favor of the Church decisions. That is not the case.
@voxelsofsorrow That's not quite accurate. I was surprised to learn recently that the idea of the Canon being set at Nicea was an invention of Voltaire. Not sure when the Canon was actually set, though I know there was a proposed Canon nearly identical to the current predating nicea by centuries.
@@Placeboshotgun the canon was basically set by 150 AD. Many of the second century fathers speak of it. Nicea was about heretical writings that had to be denounced, not "creating the Bible". Heresies such as Arianism, Gnosticism (a religion that goes as far back as Heraclitus) were being accepted by a largely illiterate church and it was necessary to refocus the church leaders, not parishioners, on what was acceptable for teaching.
Great video. I'm an Anglican from Nigeria which has the largest congregation after England and one of the the leaders of the Anglican realignment and GAFCON. The Church of Nigeria is very conservative as with other African Anglican churches and more recently some Anglican churches in the Americas. The Church of Nigeria championed separation from the Church of England, Canada and other Anglican churches in the Americas due to their liberal doctrines. They have lost their way and erred trying to please the world. I'm so disappointed with what they have become and I pray they repent. The Church of Nigeria is by no means perfect but by God's grace our missions in the Americas, together with ACNA are yielding positive results. Anglicanism needs to be more conservative, Bible-based, Christ-centered, and as a member of my Diocesan Synod at 25 years, I'm glad and I thank God I'm part of those making it happen. May God bless every true Christian and all the Churches that hold the right beliefs dear 🙏
I love these videos. Recently I came to Christ on my own, and it is very hard trying to figure out which direction to go with my faith. Mostly because I know so little. Videos like these are very informative, but I find myself agreeing with parts of every denomination, so I don't really know where to go. Any thoughts?
Read the writings of early Church fathers. The early Christians believed and practised things that were contrary to the Protestants i.e. the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist and infant baptism.
I'm a conservative lutheran, and I can assure you that total depravity is core to our teachings, but not classical pre-destination. I had it taught to me as "double pre-destination", which is headache inducing, so here's the best metaphor I've got. Salvation is like being shipwrecked treading water on the ocean. Only God can throw the life preserver, but we absolutely can throw it off of us. We cannot earn or participate in Salvation, but we absolutely can reject it, since we are spiritually dead.
Yep, was part of the Lutheran cult as a kid when forced into it and confirmation. Then dad became a Lutheran Lay minister Liar. The amount of mental abuse from Christian’s is astounding! So glad I don’t believe in the make believe crap and I stay away from Christians…..made life so much better.
Wow! fascinating. And your excellent video reinforces my active disinterest in theological fine points that don't make any difference in my day to day life.
Good video. One dimension that I think is helpful when thinking about various Christian groups is emphasizing earth doesn’t matter only the spiritual vs Gods work through the physical.
The Catholic Church itself does not say we literally eat and drink Christ's body and blood. It says we truly receive him under the appearance of bread and wine. To put it simply, the essence of the bread and wine becomes Christ, while the accidents remain the same.
@@josephdemary4048 A distinction that the first comment makes (I believe) is that the disciples didn't literally eat his flesh and drink his literal blood
yes the catholic church it's self says we literally eat and drink Christ's body and blood. see CCC 1413. What you said about the essence of the host becoming Christ and the accidents remaining unchanged is correct, but the body really "is present in a true, real, and substantial manner: his Body and his Blood, with his soul and his divinity" (cf. Council of Trent: DS 1640; 1651).
@@irok1 I'm correcting him because he's wrong about this "The Catholic Church itself does not say we literally eat and drink Christ's body and blood." I am also a Catholic. Catholics believe that the disciples did literally eat Jesus's body and blood.
Incredibly well done! Cheers! Small correction: Your description of Lutheran "acceptance of communion" doesn't seem to align with what a majority of Lutherans in Europe practice and teach. They officially share bread and wine with the Reformed and quite some other churches since 1973 - originally posed in the Leuenberg Concord. (Since this video doesn't seem to focus only on American Churches, I found this to be relevant)
Thanks for the video, I've been confused about some differences in some of my different friends beliefs. That really cleared it up! I think the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints is worth mentioning, 17 million members world wide. They believe to be the original organization set up by Jesus Christ, and the that organization was taken from the earth and then restored.
As a Pentecostal you got everything right only thing is me personally I don’t believe you have to speak in tongues to be saved but by the Holy Spirit you will be 🙏🏾
Oneness Pentecostal is a group who believes tongues are a requirement but they are small minority. id guess maybe 1% of Pentecostals believe you need to speak in tongues to be born again. it would be like saying Pentecostals believe in snake handling by using snake handling churchs as an authority. So he either didnt do his research or has an agenda. either way it makes me question everything else he said in this video. big thumbs down from me. @@phantompenguintgl1652
Yeah there are different branches with Pentecostals even. I’d lean towards that speaking in tongues is important, maybe not you going to hell if you don’t, but it’s God’s spirit speaking through you, thus important. It’s just one more way to get connected to God. I do however disagree that anyone can ever stop sinning completely, idk where that part came from. We are all flesh, flesh is lustful, and there will always be a battle between flesh and spirit. Hope this helps someone
The most fascinating thing about this is that they all have their merits but the truth is in the mix of most of these put together. I bet it would be easy to explain.
It’s super interesting to see here just how close a lot of Christians are to fully agreeing. I see a lot of arguments between orthodox, catholic, and protestant people online, and they make the differences seem like a massive insurmountable divide. It’s comforting to remember how similar we actually are.
It's a form of survivorship bias. We never talk about the things we agree on because there is nothing left to say about them. Yet arguments about our differences are loud and overrepresented. But we really are more similar than it seems at first glance.
Yep, the amount that Christians believe and agree on is huge. That's one way you can tell when you're dealing with a cult. They don't agree on the fundamentals, who Good is, who Jesus is and what he came to do.
As a Presbyterian, i find the history and tradition of orthodox and catholic churches to be quite intriguing. You know their histories and traditions run deep when their churches alone take up the first half of the video 😅😅
Jesus founded a Church, not a book. Then the Church decided to compile a book. Tradition is not below scripture, it's equal. Jesus criticized the Pharisees for focusing more on their ancient texts than in his message as he preached live. Jesus gave the Church the keys to Heaven and authority to bind on Earth like in Heaven. Jesus promised his Church that the Holy Spirit would guide it. Even if the Church can make mistakes, since Jesus did stop Peter on his tracks a few times, its still the Church, and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it. God always guides it. Tradition, liturgy, miracles, apparitions, sacraments, intercession... Christianity is much more than scripture, the Deposit of faith is deep. Putting scripture above the Church is a limited, almost sterile, form of Christianity and it lead to ever increasing disunity, while Christ wanted us to be one.
I have been a Pentecostal my whole life and I have never heard anyone say that you can achieve entire sanctification. Rather I have heard the opposite many times and that no one here on earth can be perfect
Hi! I’m a Baptist so we are very similar. I have also always been told that no one is perfect and we can never be a part from Christ. I think this whole idea of entire sanctification come from misrepresenting glorification. Glorification has full and complete sanctification when we die and see Christ face to face!