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Which churches are true/false churches? - KingdomCraft 

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Churches that are explicitly heretical (false Churches)
Mormon: 3:59
Jehovah's Witnesse 4:52
Oneness Pentecostal: 5:09
Christian Scientist: 6:13
Unitarian Universalist: 6:46
Churches that are doubtful, or on the fence, but not definitively heretical
Church of Christ: 8:18
Seventh-Day Adventist: 10:23
Assyrian Church of the East: 12:01
Many that are Non-Denominational: 15:47
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@stardust653
@stardust653 Год назад
I'm not even Christian, I just find this really interesting and find you really informative and entertaining
@phillipcummings3518
@phillipcummings3518 Год назад
He is entertaining and sounds pretty unbiased
@sk00k
@sk00k Год назад
​@@phillipcummings3518 I wouldn't say unbiased, because a lot of this series is just him giving his opinion, I'd say it's more that he's good at representing the subject and other people's points of view fairly.
@phillipcummings3518
@phillipcummings3518 Год назад
@@sk00k that means unbiased
@unpredictableaxolotl3762
@unpredictableaxolotl3762 Год назад
@@phillipcummings3518 not quite. anyone with a stake in the claims being made is biased. it's more like he does a good job of accounting for his bias.
@phillipcummings3518
@phillipcummings3518 Год назад
@@unpredictableaxolotl3762 everyone has biases, even if they claim they don't. We are talking about the presentation.
@Xplayer007
@Xplayer007 Год назад
I'm Catholic but I can't help but reference the Lutheran video about trinitarian heresies because it's so well done. "That's MODALISM Patrick" 😂
@redknight8215
@redknight8215 Год назад
Lutheran Satire is a beautiful channel.
@kurtdavid805
@kurtdavid805 Год назад
EY im catholic too
@JosiahTheSiah
@JosiahTheSiah Год назад
Love all those videos. They meet JWs and Mormons as well 😂
@gabequinn9796
@gabequinn9796 Год назад
COME ONNNNN, PATRICK
@JosiahTheSiah
@JosiahTheSiah Год назад
@@gabequinn9796 I mean, REALLY Paaatrick
@Lucem_Dantis
@Lucem_Dantis Год назад
As a Protestant I respect my Catholic and Orthodox brothers and sisters even though we may not have always aligned on how we glorify God. I also want to thank you for your informative video to help me understand and perhaps help those who have fallen from the teaching of being a Christian. Stay safe and God bless.
@5BBassist4Christ
@5BBassist4Christ Год назад
I'm always happy to see Protestants who firmly disagree with Catholicism (and Orthodoxy) and yet are vocal about affirming them. I grew up being told Catholicism was demonic, and although I have many disagreements with Rome, I have passionately come to disagree with this notion also.
@ranelgallardo7031
@ranelgallardo7031 Год назад
@@5BBassist4Christ Some Catholics are taught Protestants are heretics. So the extreme feeling is mutual. Thankfully it’s not like that mostly.
@lesinge8868
@lesinge8868 Год назад
@@5BBassist4Christ So long as moral relativism rules the world, Christians simply cannot afford to fight amongst ourselves.
@Jadanbr
@Jadanbr Год назад
I'm happy that you are understanding like that a lot of the time in the internet I have to see some radical anti catholic protestants talking down to us that are catholic in comment sections
@goldalien2016
@goldalien2016 Год назад
@@Jadanbr And what's worse, then the radical Catholic extremists get involved and it just becomes one big d%(% measuring competition between a bunch of intolerant know-it-alls! As a Catholic, I really don't get why it would be so hard for us to all just get along as Christians...
@Iron_Soil
@Iron_Soil Год назад
As a catholic i adore your channel, very well written and informative video's Based
@kurtdavid805
@kurtdavid805 Год назад
Same
@KHABIB-TIME
@KHABIB-TIME Год назад
Moses: Hear O Israel, Lord, our God is one. Jesus: Hear O Israel, Lord, our God is one. Muhammad: Say: God is One. Peace be upon them all.
@josiekoch7589
@josiekoch7589 Год назад
@@KHABIB-TIME muhammad was literally a heretic
@bobzfrog1081
@bobzfrog1081 Год назад
@Cheese Grater Same new favorite channel
@chillmemes5865
@chillmemes5865 Год назад
@@KHABIB-TIME He is just saying that God is one being, not denying the Trinity
@xcosminax
@xcosminax Год назад
I gotta say, your videos got me back into studying theology and got me back into church. I am Baptist. I have researched theology in the past and I went to church almost every single Sunday, but I married an agnostic, and that has caused me to stop going to church and stopped studying God's Word. I do not blame my husband for that. I blame myself because my mindset turned into "I do still believe in God and my husband's beliefs can not change that or affect my faith." That was sorta true. I never stopped believing in God, but I stopped worshipping Him. I first stopped going to church. Part of that was because we moved and I would need to find a new church home. I started looking at first, but then just stopped. I then stopped reading my Bible. It has a spot in a drawer by my bed and I opened that drawer less and less until I just stopped completely. After a while, I was shaken because I realized I stopped praying. Being married to an agnostic, I started to forget about God, because there were no more reminders of Him in our household. My Bible was put away in a drawer. I could not see it. I stopped wearing my cross necklace. My husband had no interest in going to church or talking about God of course so any effort was completely on me, and I just stopped making the effort. Every once in a while I would be convicted, because I am saved and I believe once you are saved you can not lose your salvation, and I would pull out my Bible again for one day, or we would go to church on Easter, or I would pray on my way to work. The smallest of efforts really, but it was not true devotion at all. Then a couple of weeks ago I came across your History of the Church video, and then watched your Theology video and something about that just clicked with me. I love history and I love studying theology. I already knew all that stuff in the videos, but them being explained in that way was like relearning it all over again. I realized I missed learning and growing as a person and a Christian. It made me crave being back in that church setting. This last Easter I found my cross necklace that my mother gave me when I turn 13 and I went to church with my husband. This is the reason why I say my disconnect with God is 100% my own doing. My husband has always been supportive of my faith. When I said "I want to go to church." He would come with me. Only ever complained if it was an early service and he wanted to sleep in that day, but he would still go. He never looked down on me for my beliefs. He just never encouraged going if I wasn't the one who brought it up. Although I hope and I do pray that my husband will find his way back to God, I know that I need to focus on my own relationship with God and not let myself forget about Him. Be that example to my husband. So thank you for your videos. I've also watched your video on how you came to be a Christian and that testimony was inspiring.
@redeemedzoomer6053
@redeemedzoomer6053 Год назад
That's great to hear, God bless! Praying for you
@chocolateneko9912
@chocolateneko9912 Год назад
​@@redeemedzoomer6053 what do you think of Origen of Alexandria and the Origenist crisis? Could you maybe make a video on it if you haven't/want to? ❤️☦️
@kristenhart3020
@kristenhart3020 Год назад
@@thecourierNCR thank you! I’ll check it out for sure!
@servantmapper8893
@servantmapper8893 Год назад
Yes, good to see you are avoiding to fall the same fate as Solomon did.
@chuckluck846
@chuckluck846 Год назад
i aint reading all that
@rl-762
@rl-762 Год назад
The adventist church’s second (of 28) fundamental belief is “There is one God: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, a unity of three coeternal Persons.”
@Scottenstein
@Scottenstein Год назад
Christian Church / Church of Christ minister here. I appreciate your clarification in this video. I can see where your caution comes from, especially in our practice of not making creeds. (However, most of our churches do have statements of faith available that act like a creed). I would like to address a few concerns you had about us coming out of the Restorationist movements and the 2nd Great Awakening: 1. Our founders did not believe that Christianity was lost. They saw the many denominations as the church divided. Jesus prayed for unity in John 17. Some things that divide the church are denominational names, church traditions and man-made creeds. The original leaders’ goal was to find unity among all denominations rooted in the essentials of the faith. That’s why we are called Christians only. 2. Each of our churches is autonomous, governed by the local body of elders (like the first century church). That is why we don’t have a “denominational stance” - we technically aren’t a denomination. While we share a common heritage and consider other Christian Churches / Churches of Christ to be brothers, the shepherding of each individual flock is the responsibility of the local elders. So I can understand your question “how do I know that your church is speaking for other Churches of Christ?” In a sense, we aren’t speaking for those other churches. We share the same principles, but there is not a governing body that determines how each congregation operates. In conclusion, I think all of the Christian Churches / Churches of Christ would agree with the Nicene Creed, but are only hesitant to adopt any official creeds because of the core belief that man-made creeds have the potential to cause division in the church.
@SaltUnknownyt
@SaltUnknownyt 7 месяцев назад
That’s interesting, thank you!
@ssfc117
@ssfc117 7 месяцев назад
Ah yes exclusively worshipping the Bible, just like the first century churches, who didn’t even have all the books of the New Testament yet…I grew up with a great Church of Christ friend and it certainly fascinated me and she was very resolute and thus very inspiring in her faith but that was always a point I didn’t understand lol
@studiesfromthebible
@studiesfromthebible 5 месяцев назад
@@SaltUnknownyt The above poseter does a good Job at clarifying. We are not against the contents of the creeds, just in creeds themselves, because our goal is unity based on scripture alone. The only creed we accept is the bible. If the Nicaean or any other creed says what the bible says. Then we agree. It is easier to say the bible says something then a group of men at a meeting. They may be right, but what makes them right is that they are agreeing with the bible.
@jomess7879
@jomess7879 5 месяцев назад
I know a pastor of a Church of Christ and he says that unless the name of your church is "Church of Christ" then you won't go to weapon. It seems he puts more emphasis on the name of the church rather than anything the church preaches. And if you disagree on anything then you are a heretic. Is that a common view of the Church of Christ
@helloimchess
@helloimchess 3 месяца назад
Just wondering is Church of Christ the same as the iglesia ni Cristo churches
@darthdistortion1934
@darthdistortion1934 Год назад
Currently doing exchange in South Korea and the number of cults with false messiahs is insane. And they're HUGE
@lizzsszzy7800
@lizzsszzy7800 11 месяцев назад
I go to college in Florida and there was a guy preaching about a Korean "messiah". So bizarre.
@MusicalMarble
@MusicalMarble 11 месяцев назад
I’ve been approached about the heavenly mother here and they don’t like it when I start doing a Bible study with them.
@dwaynekeenum1916
@dwaynekeenum1916 9 месяцев назад
I mean that’s an opinion
@michaeltagor4238
@michaeltagor4238 5 месяцев назад
when you have a capitalistic authoritarian dystopian government as your basis of a nation, you get a LOT of f*cked up things rise up, and unfortunately a lot of countries still look up to South Korea, it's actually insanely funny
@touchyfeelymess
@touchyfeelymess 3 месяца назад
KOJC cult leader f- said that he is the appointed Son of God
@stefanofialho5484
@stefanofialho5484 Год назад
As a member of the SDA I can try to explain a few things, however I am no expert. Our "trinity" is well... the Trinity. With one God existing as three coequal, coeternal, consubstantial divine persons. God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ) and God the Holy Spirit, exist as three distinct persons sharing one essence/substance/nature. The view of annihilationism comes from our intreptation of the Bible and some theology due a few things which I will try to explain the best way I can. 1. We see the body, mind and "soul" as three indivisible things that can't exist without the other. Take one out of the equation and you don't have a human being anymore; 2. Due to that belive it becomes hard to see a non-corporeal soul on either Hell, Heaven or purgatory (which we also don't belive exists). People are just in unconscious state where they learn nothing, know nothing and are truly incapable of doing anything; 3. When the Serpent lied ( "surely you won't die" ) to Eve we see that as a full on lie. If a person continues as a conscious being after death with all its previous knowledge and the ability to learn new things as if they are still alive, plus sometimes even interact with the world, it's quite hard to say that person is well... dead. So when when death comes to people they are indeed and truly dead; 4. As I am sure many have heard atheists say that a loving God wouldn't eternally torture his children with fire and brimstone. We agree with that; 5. We belive that eventually God will utterly destroy evil and if evil still exists somewhere even if contained in a place (like Hell) then it still exists. 6. People will only go to Heaven after they either are A (resurrected but saved) or B (alive but saved) on the Apocalypse; 7. People who aren't saved will be destroyed in the end, they will be gone. No eternal hellfire or anything they are gone. Our view of Ellen G. White is that she is one of our church fathers (in this case mother) and a prophetess. However by her own words if we perceive a conflict between her words and the Bible we should choose the Bible. The young earth creationism is a big problem yes, however a the educated members who belive in that say it's less that everything is 6000 thousand years old but rather the world as we know it is that age.
@EdoKu18
@EdoKu18 Год назад
Greetings Brother, I'm SDA too and I was just telling him the same, SDA does not deny the Nicean Creed, and one would hardly find any SDA who does.
@Lollololplolpllplpl
@Lollololplolpllplpl Год назад
Does the lake of fire not exist?
@stefanofialho5484
@stefanofialho5484 Год назад
@@EdoKu18 Hello, nice seeing others out here. Plus with the exception of a few things (Ellen G. White, Investigative Judgement and keeping the Sabbath in Saturday) we are not that different from other Evangelical Protestant denominations.
@EdoKu18
@EdoKu18 Год назад
@@stefanofialho5484 I agree, in the 70's and 60's scholars had this same debate and was already settled that SDA Church was just another Protestant church. And recently I'm noticing this debate to arise once again, it seems like after some years it all starts over again and again, even though it is settled.
@stefanofialho5484
@stefanofialho5484 Год назад
@@Lollololplolpllplpl If I remember correctly (probably not) our theology says that "the lake of fire" will only be used in end times to fully destroy evil. A permanent consequence for sinners that choose not to repent rather than a permanent punishment.
@brockburgi994
@brockburgi994 Год назад
I think the non-denom example more so shows how important it is to have a plurality of elders rather than one “head pastor” or else people follow the pastor rather then the Word itself.
@itstriplem2069
@itstriplem2069 Год назад
Yeah, we in the Church of Christ try to follow the Biblical example of what the early church did and you can see that it was ruled by a plurality of elders.
@awesomejedi917
@awesomejedi917 Год назад
I go to a Non-denom church does have a Lead Pastor, however we do have a Board of Elders that is above him and he allows the other pastors, such as the Next Gen Pastor (Admin over youth and kids) and Connections Pastor, speak fairly often.
@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts
@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts Год назад
A number of elders is preferable, but not a total defence against error. The early Christian congregation used a number of elders but fell into error almost immediately, even in the Bible itself the apostles had to defend against judaisers, a sorceress and Gnostics, and it got worse after the last apostle died.
@Allaiya.
@Allaiya. 8 месяцев назад
@@madelinegrcwow that’s horrible
@TheStarshipGarage
@TheStarshipGarage 5 месяцев назад
I go to a non-denominational church, and we too have a board of elders. Which has saved us trouble when we had to kick out a pastor for immoral behavior.
@EdoKu18
@EdoKu18 Год назад
Seventh day Adventists do NOT deny the nicean creed. Just saying.
@kazax699
@kazax699 4 месяца назад
Amen
@epsilon3821
@epsilon3821 2 месяца назад
zoomer historian dropped the ball on this one, plus with the false equivalence of annihilation with atheist view of annihilation Look Zoomer. If you are reading this. It is *clearly* written. John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should NOT PERISH but have EVERLASTING life. The whole spiel he had on SDA was so half-hearted it's ridiculous.
@epsilon3821
@epsilon3821 2 месяца назад
It's complete nonsense logically speaking. Come on. God is love. He would not damn sinners to eternal torture. That is not love. Plus eternal torture means eternal life because clearly they have to live to be experiencing that pain.
@tomy8339
@tomy8339 2 месяца назад
​@@epsilon3821I don't relish the thought of eternal hell. But I will not die saying that Christ was a liar. Because that is what you call him when you say eternal hell is not real when Jesus, Paul, Peter, James, Jude and John all clearly teach an eternal hell. Depart from me into the eternal fire prepared for the Devil and his angels. If you can't understand those plain words, I don't know what else to say. But call Christ a liar I won't.
@epsilon3821
@epsilon3821 2 месяца назад
@@tomy8339 Yes, eternal fire. The lake of fire. God's love is an eternal fire that BURNS AWAY all sins. That does not prove that sin will continue to exist that the devil will live burning forever in that fire. It is written in revelation that all sinners will be no more. You are misinterpreting Christ's words.
@PeterParker-zn1uj
@PeterParker-zn1uj Год назад
Catholic here. I have been loving your videos and explanations about everything. I just wanted to thank you for these informative videos and can't wait for more !!
@garretlevi
@garretlevi Год назад
I'm curious why you are so convinced that the nicean creed is a valid starting point in defining what counts as Christian. The creed was debated and voted on, (like a piece of legislation,) hundreds of years after Christ and the apostles were dead, and in a historical context, has clear influence from greek culture of the time. I don't see what gives it so much authority, when the bible is what should be used to determine what Christianity is. Many of the concepts that the creed espouses, even dominant ones like the Trinity, are not explicitly biblical (the term "Trinity" is never used in scripture for example) but rather are often the theologian's specific interpretations. Theologians don't speak for God, they are not prophets, so their "interpretation" shouldn't be a basis for determining doctrine. Remember that the "theologians" of Christ's day were the Pharisees, who despite studying the Law their whole lives, completely missed it's meaning. Jesus made this clear in his ministry. Do you really think the nicean creed stands up to scrutiny?
@cipmaster1
@cipmaster1 14 дней назад
Nice to see someone thinking something similar to me in a year old video. I can discuss trinity, but what bothers me so much is talking about the Nicean creed as some sort of biblical canon. The apostles worshiped the Father, prayed to him, not to Jesus, so saying that being a christian MEANS worshiping Jesus (we can even discuss the word used in John 9:35, as in some translation it says "worshiped him" and in others it says "bowed to him" like Young's literal translation. I have seen people defend the Trinity with that passage saying that Jesus didnt deny worship, and that if he was not God he would have.) My point being, the nicean creed being the basis for being christian is just not true
@MercuryTitanus
@MercuryTitanus Год назад
Been really enjoying your content, brother. Keep it up!
@orion7397
@orion7397 Год назад
I would love a video covering a deep dive into Seventh-Day Adventism. Being raised in the church, father being a pastor, and having family ties all the way up to administration throughout the general conference, I've been presented with satesfying answers to nearly any and every qualm/question I had regarding the church and our beliefs. I would love to hear your thoughts in far more detail and scrutinization.
@matthewpauls2498
@matthewpauls2498 Год назад
hey im an sda too. This guy saying "worshiping on Saturday isnt explicitly heretical..." while its literally in the 10 commandments is sorta funny.
@mjogundeyi1213
@mjogundeyi1213 Год назад
Lol yeah I kinda laughed at that too. Jesus who was a Jew and attended “church” on Saturday would be a little suspicious in his eyes. I also found it interesting that having a prophetess seems to separate us. Even though we give her less authority than a lot of the other “ Christian” religions give their leaders
@tranquil4_
@tranquil4_ Год назад
Well he only got 20% right on SDA. No Ellen G White never claimed to be a prophetess, only receiving the gift of prophecy in which she doubted so much that she went to get her visions testified by every known pastor in her area, so it was very likely these where of the Holy Spirit. She didnt base it off a failed second coming date, that was William Miller the founder of the millerites and she never based off SDA of of them. They believe in a mix of Annihilationism and torment, where you do suffer to a certain degree before your soul gets quenched into the flames, very scary stuff. So yeah, SDA has the fundamentals down, the Bible is the standard and foundation they base off of everything, and we invite you to come visit if you made it this far reading ❤🙏
@CYC_JP
@CYC_JP Год назад
@@matthewpauls2498 10 commandments are in the old testament, it is the Mosaic law for Jews which Jesus has already fulfilled. Christians are under the new testament, a new covenant with God and 10 commandments have no bind on us.
@kita3256
@kita3256 Год назад
@@CYC_JP so then we should kill and commit adultery? We should lie and have other Gods now? If we are living under a new covenant it does t mean God’s first covenant is destroyed. Jesus kept the 10 commandments while living on earth. He left that example to us. So yes, The Sabbath, 4th commandment is still relevant. God never changed his Holy Day. 6 days of creation, 7th day of rest. It has always been since the beginning of time. God never threw them out when Jesus came. It’s just completely false to think that the 10 commandments are nothing. They won’t give you salvation, obviously, but it is still the word of God, and never did he explicitly say they were done with. Again I ask, if we no longer keep the 10 commandments, then can I kill, lie, cheat, have other Gods, covet etc. and I will still go to heaven? When we truly follow Christ we follow his example. He followed the 10 commandments out of love and worship. Not for salvation.
@krustytheclown6840
@krustytheclown6840 Год назад
I am a progressive agnostic, and this is one of my default channels for Christian and Christ related information- I appreciate the perspective greatly, despite my different viewpoints.
@aiwaschawa5272
@aiwaschawa5272 Год назад
Progressive agnostic? I never heard of something like it, didn't think agnostics would have anything like branches either
@krustytheclown6840
@krustytheclown6840 Год назад
@@aiwaschawa5272 politically progressive as well as someone who is secular
@aiwaschawa5272
@aiwaschawa5272 Год назад
@@krustytheclown6840 Oh that makes way more sense, hope you continue to appreciate theology
@soldierofchrist1096
@soldierofchrist1096 Год назад
May you find the love and grace of Jesus Christ.
@ivetterodriguez9628
@ivetterodriguez9628 Год назад
I grew up Baptist and despite growing up in the church I couldn't say with all certainty that I believe Jesus to be the Christ. They're kind people with a sense of integrity and compassion but I simply could not accept that Jesus was and is the Messsiah of the Jews. As much as Christianty is about morals and our lives here on Earth and how we behave with God and humanity so many people go to church for the morals and bible study and ignore what Christ /messiah would mean to the Jews. Even Messianic Jews existing doesn't convince me even if it once did give me joy to know that some Jews accept Christ. If I was going to be honest with myself I had to look into why historically Jews rejected Jesus as their messiah. Their messiah is supposed to have all nations turn to God and worship only him without proselytizing or evangelizing. All nations will become monotheistic following the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob at his arrival. And as much as I like his parables, Jesus didn't make that happen. And even if Jesus died excruciatngly and for mankind that would still not be what makes him Messiah. And I'm sure if Jesus existed he was a decent guy but I could never call him God without feeling like an idolator. I could believe he was a righteous man but I could never believe he was divine and I could come to terms that he may have died a painful death. But the passion of the Christ, his compassion with humanity, and suffering could not convince me that he is King of the Jews. I could feel pity but not acceptance of him being the Christ. I feel as though a lot of people convert to Chrstianity because "look what Christ did for you, he died for humanity, because God sent him so". That he cares. When tat's not what it would take to convince a Jew that they judged him too quickly. And I believe wholeheartedly that most pastors, priests, bisops, presbyters, believe what they teach and aren't knowingly tricking people. I believe that they believe it's the truth just as much as I truly know I believed when I was 12-15. I don't what it was. If it was the Holy Spirit or not but I believe with conviction that I did once truly believe and that my faith was sincere when I held it. But as someone born into a Baptist church a false and insincere profession that Jesus is the Christ is worse than openly rejecting him. At least according to me it is. I'm not really sure what Baptist churches would say about that but the Baptist church has such limited authority over it's congregation that it doesn't really matter. We do tend to be very individualistic and because of that I cannot say with all sincerity and integrity, even between just me and God, that I believe. I rather not pretend to be a Christian and lie for the sake of my parents, my church, or myself. Hypocrisy hurts more than reputation and family. I cannot teach or preach what I do not believe. It would be dishonest to both me and God. And I'm not saying only Baptists can be this critical about the individual professing their belief or rejecting it. I'm just saying that I don't think anyone can ever believe in something if they aren't given the option to reject it and since Baptists don't do baby baptisms there is a stronger sense of getting baptized because you chose for yourself that you want to do it and not simply by obligation or expectation. Although this "choice" easily gets countered if you're born into the religion and not converted since your parents hope and expect you to accept Christ just as much as they do. Is it really that personal of a choice if you feel you may disappoint or concern your parents? Anyway, that's my Jesus Christ crisis. Good day!
@killiemon
@killiemon Год назад
Even in non-denominational churches or other congregational style evangelical churches, it's not always just up to the pastor, there is usually a board or group of elders that oversee the pastor. Of course this varies wildly from one church to another
@jimbobbyhutchinson313
@jimbobbyhutchinson313 Год назад
I went to a Non Denom where it was discovered the Pastor was up to some sinful shenanigans. The Elders quickly relieved him of his role. I have heard stories though of churches splitting over situations like that. So I can 100% appreciate where the poster is coming from talking about with following pastors.
@Celestial_Iris
@Celestial_Iris Год назад
It’s interesting to hear about why some may think Church of Christ is suspicious. Personally, I spent my whole life drifting between churches due to my family moving a lot, but found out about CoC when I started going to a Christian college that was CoC. Honestly the worst thing I can say about it is that can make people uncomfortable because they teach (or at least the people in my college teach) a ton about the historic context on the Bible as they believe that the authors of the whole Bible weren’t writing explicitly for us gentiles reading the Bible 2000 years later. Like the letters of Paul weren’t meant to be addressed to every church everywhere but were first written to give guidance to the specific churches with the specific problems they were having. Regardless of that though, it is of upmost importance to still follow what Paul wrote about because it’s extremely important teaching and it’s part of the Bible which gives it ultimate authority as the Word. I don’t believe it undermines the Bible to know the historic setting that it was written in but I can understand how it can be a unsettling thing to say that Paul’a letters, as an example, were not tailor made to solve problems of the modern person but were designed to be letters to benefit the audience that would read or listen to the letters at the time of Paul’s life. Despite that, we still find immense value in them as they still teachings of God as well as his will combined with the fact that God never changes and is eternal. I can also confirm that they believe in the trinity in a traditional sense. They believe in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit and believe that all three are divine with Jesus being both divine and man. I hope I didn’t make things too confusing. I just wanted to make a statement as someone who just started going to CoC after spending my life going to a Catholic high school with mass every Wednesday and going to dozens of different churches without really being raised in the teachings of one particular denomination. Just thought I might have been able to provide decent insight.
@blondequijote
@blondequijote Год назад
They're right. The Bible wasn't written for our times. But The Holy Text was. Good Wizard (G-d for short) says in Austin 3:19 "G-d Most High in his unmatched wisdom revealed his magic truths in an age of mass communication so no one has to get His Word second-or-third-hand." This revelation is happening in our time because there are enough ppl familiar with the magcial savior Harry Potter and ready to receive their scholarships to Hogwarts paid for by his victory over Voldmeort.
@maxxiong
@maxxiong 11 месяцев назад
The biggest problem with CoC is that they believe in both believer's baptism and baptismal regeneration, so that if a baptism is performed on an unbeliever it is invalid. This flies in the face of 1 John 5:13 where the assurance of salvation is based on present not past faith. Even worse, some in the CoC even teach that if you believe your sins are forgiven before baptism then your baptism is invalid. So there is an ecumenical problem in general where one side views the other side as unbelievers. And apparently they believe you can sin away your salvation (rather than only by apostasy) so evangelicals will usually accuse them of teaching works.
@bliots8369
@bliots8369 11 месяцев назад
@@maxxiong Yes, most Churches of Christ (I say most because it's not a unified denomination, they are just autonomous congregations that try to go strictly by the Bible and nothing else) believe that if a baptism is performed on an unbeliever it is invalid. I don't see how this contradicts 1 John 5:13? We believe that if you believe, repent, confess, and are baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, you will receive the gift of eternal life. I've also never heard of people teaching that if you believe your sins are forgiven before baptism then baptism is invalid. We don't believe everyone else is unbelievers. We just try to go by the only authoritative truth, God's word, the best we can. We don't believe you can sin away your salvation, only if you become unrepentant and stop walking in the light.
@maxxiong
@maxxiong 11 месяцев назад
@@bliots8369 There are churches of christ that teach one has to believe baptism actually forgives sins to be saved. Bascially the argument from 1 John 5:13 is that assurance is being based on present faith, not past faith. If one affirms both believer's baptism and baptismal regeneration, then the necessary consequence is that assurance also depends on the faith at the point of baptism.
@TheNightWatcher1385
@TheNightWatcher1385 11 месяцев назад
⁠​⁠@@maxxiongI grew up in the CoC. It is admittedly difficult to pinpoint what CoC explicitly is due to it being Congregationalist in nature, so each CoC can teach their own message. It’s more of a movement than a denomination. Now, it is possible for a CoC to deviate so far that other CoCs may choose not to recognize them as a fellow CoC. But most are in the same ballpark on most issues. Some will use the nicine creed, some won’t. Some will use it but not call it that in order to fulfill the traditional CoC doctrine of not aligning with formalized creeds as the only, “creed,” is meant to be the Bible itself. My CoC believed baptism only is valid for those mature enough to understand it, so child baptism was not a thing. We believed that salvation could be lost only through apostasy. And we believed salvation through faith but that the best sign that your faith is valid was doing works. It wasn’t the works that saved you but the faith that compelled those works.
@turnerfaughn338
@turnerfaughn338 Год назад
One of the reasons the Churches of Christ don't always say the same thing is because each church is autonomous. We don't have a headquarters or a leader like denominations, so the churches sometimes vary depending on where they are in the world, but thankfully, it's mostly over trivial matters. Also, the reason we don't acknowledge the creed is because we don't support following anything but the Bible. We already have the Bible so there is no need for another list of rules when we already have one. Hope this clears some stuff up! Love the video.
@alliebug19
@alliebug19 Год назад
I can vouch for this! My husband grew up in a church of Christ and I've been going for a little over 4 years. The one I go to will do things with local congregations (other Churches of Christ) like singing services, but nothing for headquarters or anything like that. A friend of mine came from a different church of Christ and was telling me of some seriously questionable things that his pastor was saying. Unfortunately these churches may have the same name, but some may believe different things. Thankfully, like you said, mostly over trivial things, but sometimes it is over doctrine itself. Be very careful and always look to the Bible to see if they are preaching truth.
@katkisaiah40_8
@katkisaiah40_8 Год назад
LOVE how many CoC brothers and sisters are commenting here! I'm also a Church of Christ member and absolutely love it.
@bliots8369
@bliots8369 11 месяцев назад
@@katkisaiah40_8 same!
@sarahereach
@sarahereach 10 месяцев назад
Agreed. We don't acknowledge the nicene creed because we don't believe in any human authority and only look to the bible. As it turns out though, the nicene creed is stating pretty obvious teachings of the Bible, so as a result every single church of Christ i have ever walked into (a lot) hit every one of the essential elements consistently, and can name a book, chapter, and verse to back it up.
@6x6-
@6x6- 3 месяца назад
1. cool there is this many church of Christ members I’ve literally never seen one in public besides Nauvoo and Kirkland. You guys do have a head quarters in independence Missouri i thought?
@mdlassel
@mdlassel Год назад
its cool to see SDA representation! I am a seventh day adventist and i have to be honest, in a lot more liberal leaning SDA churches the thoughts or validity of Ellen G White is held as trivial information and/or more as “advice” and less gospel. I myself think this way, and the only real way to pick me out of a crowd as an SDA is that I go to church on Saturday.
@lilyyoung1002
@lilyyoung1002 7 месяцев назад
I'm in the same boat and agree with you
@sdastoryteller3381
@sdastoryteller3381 7 месяцев назад
Yeah I think especially in the younger generations we tend not to hold her in such high regard. There was a major swing to Fundamentalism back in the 60's where they really tried to drive hard her importance which is why a lot of SDA boomers can't stop talking about her. If you check the Adventist History Podcast, they break it down very well.
@meggi8048
@meggi8048 Месяц назад
i dont get it, why would anyone think sabbat is not saturday?? its in the 10 commandments of any word-to-word translated bible. sabbat is the 7th day after he created everything where he rested, thats why its the saturday. if some folks want to worship the resurrection of jesus on sunday, thats fine. you can do both, worship sabbat on saturday and worship resurrection on sunday. didnt jesus himself do the sabbat? in my understanding you can even go to mass on sunday if you still worship and respect the sabbat on saturday. i do not even understand how this is a discussion.
@mikhailhunter5277
@mikhailhunter5277 8 дней назад
He represented us as borderline heretical, in what shape or form is that good thing? And he represented us poorly, you can tell that he didn't research the views of the SDA. We literally have an official website. Keep in mind the protestant reformers were called "heretics" and were watching a protestant side with the Catholic Church to call other protestant heretics while ignoring the Catholic Church. It's hypocrisy! Don't try to be accepted by the world, we Adventist are different in many points of scripture, not just about the Sabbath. Your " liberal" Adventist Church sounds like an Apostasy, if you believe we're only different by going to church on a Saturday... If you buckle under lying criticisms like this, then how will you stand for Jesus?
@danielyakam2437
@danielyakam2437 Год назад
The seventh day Adventist church doesn't deny the Nicene creed.
@freshbakedclips4659
@freshbakedclips4659 11 месяцев назад
Correct
@leece_dunstan_zw1170
@leece_dunstan_zw1170 5 месяцев назад
makes me wonder where this guy gets his facts🤔
@epsilon3821
@epsilon3821 2 месяца назад
@@leece_dunstan_zw1170 Unfortunately it's clear he didn't have any diligence researching SDA
@StAndersonOfArizona
@StAndersonOfArizona Год назад
Keep up the great work man, glad to see God using you & your channel to bring more people to a true historic faith in Christ.
@ThatBK
@ThatBK Год назад
I wish all Orthodox Christians a wonderful Pascha. Please Pray for the Orthodox Christians who are being actively persecuted in Ukraine. They are removing monks from monasteries that have been there for 1,000 years. Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy and save us.
@alexanderstallings9352
@alexanderstallings9352 Год назад
Amen
@mandiocatostada3859
@mandiocatostada3859 Год назад
Amen
@sirgeekness5051
@sirgeekness5051 10 месяцев назад
I'm a nondenominational christian who attends baptist church and works in a catholic school, and I, interestingly, have the opposite mindset of what you described nondenominationals as. Instead of picking a single priest or pastor to follow, I instead take insight from many different teachers but ultimately strive to follow Jesus. I fear that I may fall in the trap of following a single denominational leader or a set of preferences if I commit to a denomination. I want to serve any true church denomination that I can so that they can fulfill their mission for God. It is a very interesting take on non-denominationalism that I never thought about. I enjoyed the video very much!
@Impact_Player
@Impact_Player Год назад
Loving your content. Your videos have been very edifying for me. My only complaint is either the music is too loud or your vocal volume is too low.
@offroad5798
@offroad5798 Год назад
Agreed
@jammydoughnuts
@jammydoughnuts Год назад
Yeah the music was quite distracting for me at times which was a shame, the content is great though!
@inthefurnace
@inthefurnace Год назад
you had mentioned Quakers as a borderline group in the denominations video but they weren’t mentioned here, i’m very curious to know why you put them there as I couldn’t find anything in my own (limited) research that puts them there, and I graduated from a Christian university with Quaker roots so I have a very vested interest in knowing this
@tonic-music
@tonic-music Год назад
I was thinking about them! He had mentioned them in an instagram post
@robertkeever7682
@robertkeever7682 Год назад
Quakerism is hyper sectionalized and there are “nontheist” Quakers. And overall, from what I can determine, Quakers border on being Gnostic at times. Of course that’s just my opinion and I how interpreted it. I’m sure a man of the oats could explain their motivations better than I could. Still good people though.
@KeeIowa
@KeeIowa Год назад
Same my church and camo are quaker
@datadivanet
@datadivanet Год назад
Quakers don't have a set doctrine, so you can't say any one thing applies to all Quakers. Not just between different congregation, but between different people. We're a lot like Jewish people in that way (whom we have a lot of close ties to). 2 people, 3 opinions.
@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts
@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts Год назад
Not all Quakers are like that, but some are basically UUs.
@ajam6519
@ajam6519 Год назад
I’m so glad I found your site . I’m really glad for the education. God bless brother.✝️🙏🏾
@misseli1
@misseli1 Год назад
Great videos, and that Minecraft cathedral you're building is coming along really nicely!
@Nmnine
@Nmnine Год назад
As Mormon I find your videos super fascinating and informative! I’ve got to say though, growing up I would say I was Christian just so I wouldn’t have to explain myself but I guess that term isn’t the most accurate to my case. Appreciate the vids! 😅
@relajado-fx5rf
@relajado-fx5rf Год назад
I pray that God reveals Himself to you, so you can see Jesus on judgment day and be a faithful servant
@Nmnine
@Nmnine Год назад
@@relajado-fx5rf chileeeee 🤣
@bremjo7929
@bremjo7929 Год назад
It all depends of what you define as “Christian”. With his criteria, Mormons are not Christians, but with a much simpler definition like “follower of Christ” they’re about as Christian as it can get. I like to consider them as sort of cousins in the Christian family. A lot different from the main family, but that doesn’t make them any less valid or correct. In fact, I’d go as far as to say they might be the best representations of Christ in the modern day with how nice and charitable they are, or at least they are in my community.
@Nmnine
@Nmnine Год назад
@@bremjo7929 this is such a wholesome comment 😭 thanks for making me feel less of a fraud hahah 🫶🏽
@datadivanet
@datadivanet Год назад
Mormons are Christians. He keeps saying people are or aren't 'objectively' Christians, or are heretics, but he doesn't get to set that criteria for everyone.
@frankenduck9955
@frankenduck9955 Год назад
Adventist here, just a quick point we do believe in the trinity and accept the Nicene Creed. though in the early history of the church it was rejected by pioneers like James White, (Ellen's Husband) Who initially felt it was too Catholic. as the Church was looking for it's footing there was a lot of weighing where the influences that made up the current church came from. If you want more info on what we define as The Trinity Check the 28 Fundamental Beliefs, it's the clearest statement of SDA beliefs. Keep making great vids and cheers.
@robersonrobert4559
@robersonrobert4559 Год назад
100% agree with you!
@mmtoss6530
@mmtoss6530 Год назад
I don’t know. When I was growing up SDA, and after I became baptist, they insisted that they were anti-credal.
@jayzenstyle
@jayzenstyle Год назад
​@@mmtoss6530the 28 fundamental beliefs is created to avoid confusion among SDA churches. Please avoid basing off word of mouth as any person in any community that claim anything otherwise that contradicts the core doctrines of their group.
@iwillcuturgrass3248
@iwillcuturgrass3248 Год назад
@@mmtoss6530 you are correct
@jamesmartinez2350
@jamesmartinez2350 Год назад
Eastern Orthodox Christian here, I love your channel, these videos are mad entertaining
@JesusSaves356
@JesusSaves356 8 месяцев назад
I'd agree with some of your problems with Mormonism (I'm Mormon) based upon your criteria. One thing I would say is that the doctrine of God once being man is definitely not something that is preached, I don't know if it once was but we believe God is the same yesterday, today, and forever, and is unchanging. In Alma it says his course is one Eternal Round, and he does not change. Just thought I'd clear that up.
@cxarhomell5867
@cxarhomell5867 8 месяцев назад
I agree. However, when you said that you agreed with some of his problems with the LDS Church, what problems of his did you agree with specifically?
@MaxSolar-dd5wq
@MaxSolar-dd5wq Месяц назад
I didn’t expect the Book of Mormon to come in clutch
@leviwilliams9601
@leviwilliams9601 Месяц назад
Robert L. Millet, Noel B. Reynolds Joseph Smith taught in April 1844: God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! That is the great secret. If the veil were rent today, and the great God who holds this world in its orbit, and who upholds all worlds and all things by His power, was to make himself visible,-I say, if you were to see him today, you would see him like a man in form-like yourselves in all the person, image, and very form as a man. . . . . . . It is the
@thatonenerdconnor
@thatonenerdconnor Год назад
As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, we do not deny the eternal nature of God. In fact, like God, we are all eternal beings. In our current mortal state, we cannot comprehend the concept of eternity. Heavenly Father set us on this on this earth so that we could learn to become like him. Of course, the only way that is possible is by turning to Christ and following his example. He personally volunteered to come down to this earth, establish His gospel, and then suffer and die for us, so that we could be resurrected and return to live with God again. I know of these things to be true through personal study, prayer, and revelation. I bear this testimony in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen
@missachol24
@missachol24 7 месяцев назад
As long as you know that you guys are heretics 🤷🏿‍♀️
@AbbyDoesYouTube
@AbbyDoesYouTube 3 месяца назад
I’m a Member of the Church as well and I just found this guys lack of knowledge and false claims about our church to be incredibly disrespectful.
@BigJohnDoe08
@BigJohnDoe08 3 месяца назад
I am in your ranks with Christ by our side. Amen
@danielmuntean9345
@danielmuntean9345 23 дня назад
I pray for you to come to the true church and the true body of Christ. “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?" Matthew 15-16 Please think and investigate about the fruits of your church and compare it to the charity or social impact of Catholicism or Protestantism.
@CaptainMoroni19
@CaptainMoroni19 2 дня назад
@@AbbyDoesRU-vid believe it or not the guy who made the video eats corn the long way.
@chocolateneko9912
@chocolateneko9912 Год назад
Very nice video Brother. Much love from the Orthodox Church. ❤️☦️
@babai08_
@babai08_ Год назад
As a member of the church of Christ, I can assure you we simply follow what the Bible says, mostly in a literal way, but some things are obviously metaphorical like that the wine and bread aren’t actually blood and flesh. We believe pretty much everything you’ve listed but we do believe that mainline churches were misled by false prophets, so this we imitate the churches in the book of Acts. Also confessions are done in a different way, we have a thing called D group where we discuss our sins and share Bible verses to help each other grow and repent. The reason we don’t follow the Nicene Creed is that it’s not mentioned in the Bible as a requirement for the church.
@turnerfaughn338
@turnerfaughn338 Год назад
Love this.
@Pushing_Pixels
@Pushing_Pixels Год назад
The Nicaean Creed is politics.
@piginablanket8177
@piginablanket8177 Год назад
Is salvation by through faith alone in Christ?
@babai08_
@babai08_ Год назад
@@piginablanket8177 through Gods grace alone and we are saved through our faith yes.
@bedzy
@bedzy Год назад
@@Pushing_Pixels Nicene :)
@SdaBoy427
@SdaBoy427 3 месяца назад
I am seventh day adventist but I like the videos I will be praying for you.
@Tooinsecuretousemyrealname
@Tooinsecuretousemyrealname Год назад
I like how the commentary is a lesson in theology and the background is all like: C O W
@Blackrims23
@Blackrims23 2 месяца назад
For a church to be Christian they must accept the Holy trinity, accept that what God is on what the Bible says about him.
@sraveiryorkshire5770
@sraveiryorkshire5770 18 дней назад
Who determines what the Bible says?
@neuronbob
@neuronbob Год назад
Thanks for answering my question on what makes a church Christian or not. Looks like lots of people had the same. Keep up the good work.
@CYC_JP
@CYC_JP Год назад
I'm probably your biggest reformed high Anglican fan. Keep up the good work. Your videos are top quality. Btw coming from a millennial, you give me hope in zoomers. Keep preaching my Presbyterian brother.
@stephennettles2309
@stephennettles2309 Год назад
Just a comment, Annihilationism is present in much more than Adventist theology. It was present in the theology of some early Catholic fathers and is still a view held by some protestants in mainline denominations. You see it rarely in Evangelical circles but it's not completely absent there either.
@frankm6546
@frankm6546 Год назад
John Stot, calvinist theologian, believed in Annihilationism and that it is a completely biblically valid position on eternal punishment.
@PhoenixYah
@PhoenixYah Год назад
Also Some Jews didn't believe in after life either.
@carsonianthegreat4672
@carsonianthegreat4672 Год назад
Annihilationism was condemned as heretical by the Catholic Church
@Gibbstronic
@Gibbstronic Год назад
Before converting to Orthodoxy my first run in with the Nicene Creed was at a Non-Denominational church I visited in a whim. I grew up in a charismatic church, and we really didn’t have creeds or confessions.
@jimbobbyhutchinson313
@jimbobbyhutchinson313 Год назад
I've gone to Non-Denominational churches/charasmatic type churches my whole life. I appreciate the information on the different denominations. Honestly I had no idea about most apart from Catholisism and Protestanism. I appreciate the work you are doing bringing the truth to people in a way that is informative and easily digestable. Great job! As a note, while the churches Ive gone to never explicitly follow the Nicene or the Apostles creed they have all adhered to them. That being said I will agree and appreciate how you point out the pastor is more important than the traditions. To us that is a feature not a bug. However, the way you explain why you see that as an issue makes sense and I can totally appreciate the sentiment.
@livebungusreaction
@livebungusreaction Год назад
Yeah it is interesting. My childhood non denominational believes in the trinity as he states, communion is done seriously every Sunday, and baptism is done in the father spirit and holy ghost. Not sure if that was written in the Bible or the creed I got a lit of studying to do apparently.
@joshh1693
@joshh1693 Год назад
I grew up in the same scene and I have started to think Evangelicals(especially charismatic) are the LEAST literate and informed people of all the Christian traditions.
@jimbobbyhutchinson313
@jimbobbyhutchinson313 Год назад
@@joshh1693 Traditions, I 100% agree. However, like I said above they see that as a perk. When I looked up what the poster meant by the sacraments the church he’s I went to take almost all of them seriously, just in a different way. Communion is a very important moment. Baptism is very important, marriage is very important. I feel the NonDenoms (again that I’ve attended) do traditions just in different ways. What I appreciate about this channel and creator is he’s opening my eyes to the fact that you can go to MainLine church and still be a strong Christian. Everyone I knew who went to mainlines were Christian in name alone, so I always wrote those churches off. This is giving me hope. The one video I watched from this guy of infiltrating the mainlines and winning them back was fantastic.
@Hargledonk
@Hargledonk Год назад
As a Witness, I was excited to see us mentioned, although briefly. You are correct, we don't believe in the Trinity. We believe God is the God of the Old Testament (Jehovah). We believe God created Jesus, and then created Earth and mankind WITH Jesus. Our salvation though is still through Jesus sacrificing himself for our sins. We believe Jesus is King in heaven, but Jehovah is still the Father. I do like your videos, keep them up! I will accept the heretic title and continue watching xD
@berbseedle8286
@berbseedle8286 11 месяцев назад
sup brother
@xtremeyoylecake
@xtremeyoylecake 9 месяцев назад
Same brother
@icecoldrain730
@icecoldrain730 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for making this comment
@6x6-
@6x6- 3 месяца назад
The „silent return“?
@Laura_B__
@Laura_B__ Год назад
I have a friend who belongs to the Church of Christ. One time she gave me a bulletin from her church, which had teachings within it that really shocked me. It said that it was a sin to praise God with musical instruments - apparently they only sing acapella in those churches - and amazingly, that a person might lose their salvation if they praised God with anything but their own voice. I love this friend of mine who belongs to this church, and I am not criticizing her because she is a wonderful and loving person. But I must say, I find this particular teaching about music bizarre to say the least - I can't imagine why they think someone can go to hell because they played a musical instrument in church.
@tarpmaster31
@tarpmaster31 Год назад
As a member of the church of christ I can tell you that we don't necessarily believe that participating in instrumental worship is a automatic sentence straight to hell, however we still avoid it. The main reason being that instrumental worship is never directly commanded, only ever singing songs of praise and worship to God. Secondly there is a historical precedent of noninstrumental music being the norm up until around the 1600s. And Lastly we can see such as in the example of Nadab and Abihu in Leviticus 10:1-2 that there are certainly wrong ways to worship God. Even in this small example we can see that worshiping God incorrectly, One exists, and Two has real consequnces. So since instrumental worship is not commanded nor was it common in the early church, it is a good idea to avoid it because it most likely is not from God and if we worship God in a way that he never commanded we could face eternal consequnces.
@Laura_B__
@Laura_B__ Год назад
@@tarpmaster31 Thank you for your explanation, I appreciate that. I guess what really makes me scratch my head about this teaching is the number of times the Old Testament talks about praising God with instruments - some verses actually do sound a bit like commands to me, or at least encouragement. In the Psalms especially, there are so many mentions of instruments - such as Psalm 150:3-5 "Praise him with trumpet sound; praise him with lute and harp! Praise him with tambourine and dance; praise him with strings and pipe! Praise him with sounding cymbals; praise him with loud clashing cymbals!" It sounds to me like God loves to hear any noise joyfully made in His honour. But as I said, I do appreciate you sharing your point of view, it helps me to understand my friend better. God bless.
@name6577
@name6577 Год назад
A not as good way to put it but short is “ Do you really want to risk salvation over a couple of notes”?
@turnerfaughn338
@turnerfaughn338 Год назад
@@Laura_B__ We don't follow the old testament anymore, we are under the new law. The new testament never mentions anything about instruments in worship, but it DOES mention singing, so we just sing instead of adding instruments.
@alliebug19
@alliebug19 Год назад
The church of Christ I attend will make a similar argument (not straight to hell, but they avoid instruments in worship), however at the same time, some women wear head coverings and some don't, and there are arguments for both sides. Yes, there are wrong ways to worship God, but aren't those explicitly listed in the Bible? Something that important would have to be, right? That's one of the teachings that I'm not 100% on board with, but I understand that big "worship bands" have a danger of being all for them and for show rather than glorifying God. There is someone in my church who will play harp in their free time, then on the complete other end of the spectrum, someone who believes that any music with instruments is sinful (because everything must be done for God's glory, therefore xyz) it really confuses me and I get caught up in it rather than glorifying God as I should sometimes. I'm working on getting better
@tamagnugirma9871
@tamagnugirma9871 Год назад
I started watching your videos these days and I found them very informative and resourceful. And you know, i think the graphics presentation is better than the kingdomcraft one.
@Swiftninjatrev
@Swiftninjatrev Год назад
Yay! I waited so long for a new kingdomcraft video!
@MariaEduardaTavaresss
@MariaEduardaTavaresss Год назад
I found your channel yesterday when I was literally spending my short time on the internet. Now, here I am listening continuasly your experiences with God, knowledges about the Reform and the Word at all while I'm editing my essay about rights and nursing cares for disabled children. Thank you for what I consider a high quality content and real christianism. P.S.: I was a leftist too in the high school. If I could, I'd erase that period of my life HAHAHA God bless you, and everyone who are reading this comment. If you want to know, I'm from the south of Brazil (sorry for my bad English).
@pedroguimaraes6094
@pedroguimaraes6094 Год назад
Oremos por mais brasileiros cristãos que busquem aprender mais sobre a nossa fé.
@Pushing_Pixels
@Pushing_Pixels Год назад
Leftist is not an antonym of Christian you know. The are plenty of leftist Christians. Blame Evangelicals for convincing people religion and politics are intertwined.
@Pereira_Pedro
@Pereira_Pedro 8 месяцев назад
‭"É ele que nos conforta em toda a nossa tribulação, para podermos consolar os que estiverem em qualquer angústia, com a consolação com que nós mesmos somos contemplados por Deus." (‭‭2 Coríntios‬ ‭1:4‬)
@ChristianEphraimson
@ChristianEphraimson Год назад
I kept getting Church of ladder day saints (mormon) ads throughout this video🤣😂🤣
@NearGoldFish805
@NearGoldFish805 Год назад
I love your videos man, hard to find someone who explains theology in a way people can understand this days, God bless!
@therealinak
@therealinak Год назад
I was really interested to see Church of Christ on here, but you make some good points. Because we are so heavy on church polity, it really is difficult to ascertain a straight answer on what CoC believes. You’ll find some variation church by church, from one-cup communion to female head covering, wine to grape juice. Having grown up CoC and attended churches across the nation, I feel qualified to state the hard points that define a CoC. As the Church of Christ spawned as the most conservative product of the Restoration Movement, the Restoration Movement was created by Presbyterian ministers, therefore much of the belief system is the same. No creeds: while CoC rejects any creed not found in the Bible itself, because basis of the Nicene creed is scriptural, CoC rigidly adheres to each of its tenets while rejecting the authority of the creed itself. That the CoC doesn’t hold the creeds of 4th century orthodoxies to be holy does not mean you can reject the Trinity or the importance of the Sacraments. You will not find any variation within the CoC on this matter. If a creed is scriptural, it should follow what the CoC does. If the creed is not supported by scripture, no church should follow it. Scripture doesn’t follow the doctrine of a church. The doctrine must follow scripture and nothing else. Communion is administered weekly, freely given, with each judging themself rightly and worthy to receive it in accordance with the synoptic gospels and 1 Corinthians 11. You’ll find some variation, as stated above: some churches pass one cup, most do the standard shot cups. Some use wine, most use grape juice. Otherwise, the importance and format is the same throughout. Baptism is for believers, and is given in conjunction with confession and repentance for the remission of sins, in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. You will find no variation, and from what you’ve put forth I believe we’re on the same page. Other than that, our most famous sticking point is acapella singing. Tbh, there’s less evidence in scripture against it than so many other things, but it’s a hallmark of the CoC. If you see instruments, you’re not in a CoC. We literally split from the Disciples of Christ over it, going as far as to inform the US Census Bureau so they wouldn’t confuse us with them. Idk. It sounds great when lead right. And yeah, rarely you’ll see women practicing head covering. Some churches are for, some against, some have a mix. So far I haven’t seen any huge hardline rifts over it and most are in the standard mainline Protestant “it’s figurative” camp on 1 Cor 11. It’s worth a study. You made a good point about non-denoms being basically whatever the pastor decides. This is another thing you will never find in a CoC, despite lacking any formal authority or creed above the congregational level. There are several reasons for this. Chiefly, the Church of Christ operates off of the same manual as all of Christendom: the Bible. If you’ve got the same manual we do, and you follow it, there is little room for variation (relatively anyway; you get my point). The next is that we reject the concept of a pastor. That is, reject the concept that one man has the authority to direct church doctrine and lead the teaching and preaching of that church. We believe in a plurality of elders (meeting the qualifications in 1 Timothy and Titus). This is at minimum two, but typically three or more men who enforce the doctrine of the church. Under them, deacons are appointed (again, only men meeting 1 Timothy qualifications) as needed to efficiently handle the business of the church (these roles can be anything from finance to outreach, charity, and teaching). In absence of enough qualified men (a very small church typically), doctrine will be enforced by all men democratically instead, again, using just Scripture as the manual, until a plurality of qualified elders can be obtained . Often, the paid preacher or evangelist isn’t an elder, nor are the elders paid by the church. You’ll also, in a healthy church, find that much of the ministry is done by individual members, and sometimes there won’t even be a paid minister at all, as the men of the church each share those tasks as part of their own personal study and growth. It’s also not true that CoC has truly rigid church polity. Every church I’ve been to, nationwide, fraternizes with other CoCs. Most states or regions have lectureships where all nearby churches gather and share teaching, and there are widely accepted CoC schools such is Sunset International Bible Institute. As such, it’s incredibly rare to see a whole congregation fall away despite the lack of formal hierarchy or creed. Anyways, I hope this helped clarify a few things. Kind of a shame we got on the naughty list but I hope I set some things right.
@samuelspringer8236
@samuelspringer8236 Год назад
I am absolutely loving your channel. Have you thought of making a discord server?
@coffeebull
@coffeebull Год назад
Great idea
@umrapazai7484
@umrapazai7484 Год назад
I don't know any christian server. that would be very nice.
@relajado-fx5rf
@relajado-fx5rf Год назад
@@umrapazai7484 There are alot, one I recommend is Sola Theologia
@umrapazai7484
@umrapazai7484 Год назад
@@relajado-fx5rf i like the name
@umrapazai7484
@umrapazai7484 Год назад
@@relajado-fx5rf the server's, i mean. Your's mean relaxed, though, right? my spanish isn't the greatest, although portuguese is my first language.
@gigenaia
@gigenaia Год назад
Informative video as always, Zoomer! you should totally open this server up--it'd be cool to play alongside a fellow theologian!
@redeemedzoomer6053
@redeemedzoomer6053 Год назад
I'm planning to open it to the public this summer!
@gigenaia
@gigenaia Год назад
Sick! can’t wait!!
@maxb2242
@maxb2242 7 месяцев назад
These videos are fascinating thank you for making them, they've helped me to understand theology better. I recently converted to Christianity and attend a Uniting Methodist church. I think no matter which denomination we belong to I am happy to break bread with you all. We all worship one God
@ConnerBloxham
@ConnerBloxham Год назад
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints doesnt necessarily teach that Christianity was gone from the earth, only that the authority of God was taken, meaning people still followed the teachings of Jesus Christ and were in fact Christians, but that the churches that came after the death of the apostles were not by authority of Christ himself. The church teaches however that divine intervention was still happening throughout this period, but that the nicene creed was not itself divine. It is kind of interesting though that a protestant would deny a church's christian identity for claiming that christianity fell at some point, while also acknowledging that the entire movement of protestantism came because someone felt that Catholicism had fallen away from true Christian teachings.
@sdflsdlfkjgh6637
@sdflsdlfkjgh6637 5 месяцев назад
But they taught that Jesus isnt God which is big no no.
@Mr.Ambrose_Dyer_Armitage_Esq.
@Mr.Ambrose_Dyer_Armitage_Esq. 5 месяцев назад
@@sdflsdlfkjgh6637 The Mormons believe in "The Godhead" and that "God the Father", "God the Son", and "God the Holy Ghost" are of a single mind even if they are physically distinct personages. They also teach that Jesus was indeed the God of the Old Testament, acting in the name of His Father with what they refer to as "Divine Investiture". The Mormons are Christians, they're just not Nicene-Creedal Christians. They're also some of the most decent people I've ever met; most of 'em, there are some Born Again Virgin women and scumbags among them but, you'll find that in every congregation.
@jomess7879
@jomess7879 5 месяцев назад
​@@sdflsdlfkjgh6637more than that, some teach that Jesus is a created being
@AbbyDoesYouTube
@AbbyDoesYouTube 3 месяца назад
I’m a Member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and Just found this video disrespectful, he didn’t bother to do any actual research on the Church and just made claims that are 100% false.
@jomess7879
@jomess7879 3 месяца назад
There's doctrine in the LDS Church that is against the Bible. If it goes against the Bible or isn't found in the Bible, it's false
@Herr_Grimm
@Herr_Grimm Год назад
Hello from France ! also, PLEASE can you lower the music volume when you are speaking ? many thanks
@user-le8jv6le3m
@user-le8jv6le3m 7 месяцев назад
Could you do a video more on 7th day Adventists? I have a close friend who’s in that group, and I’m trying to learn more. Thanks 🙏🏼
@austinhenderson2319
@austinhenderson2319 Год назад
Your music gives me an Old School Runescape vibe. 10/10.
@lostfan5054
@lostfan5054 Год назад
Thanks for this video. I'm glad you broke it down like this.
@MissCheeseE
@MissCheeseE Год назад
People often confuse seventh-day adventists with adventists in general. SDA do believe in the trinity and the duality of Jesus/Christ, other Adventist denominations don’t. Also, some SDA beliefs are closer to those of early Christianity (pre-ecumenical council) and Judaism.
@maddigotnojams1964
@maddigotnojams1964 Год назад
Thank you for your explanation on church of Christ. While my experience with CoC has thankfully been positive-I’ve never walked into a CoC where the fundamentals of Christianity weren’t preached or practiced-they’re technically non-denominational, and that can cause confusion.
@legitplayin6977
@legitplayin6977 Год назад
@@AmazingFitOh come on, can’t a man enjoy a good coc for himself?
@ungrave5231
@ungrave5231 11 месяцев назад
I read that as call of cthulhu lol. Playing too many trpgs.
@6x6-
@6x6- 3 месяца назад
Glad you’ve had good experiences with CoC, I’ve had bad ones
@varmilyushin6243
@varmilyushin6243 Год назад
I find it funny that as a 7th day Adventist, that I knew basically nothing mentioned on the denomination.
@leightonholley4342
@leightonholley4342 Год назад
Hahahah, yeah a lot of us end up SDA in name only, similar to most of Christianity. I made a comment that responded to everything he said about Seventh day Adventists. I’ll find it put it in a reply to you.
@leightonholley4342
@leightonholley4342 Год назад
Warning! Wall of text incoming. Ellen white didn’t found the SDA church. She was a founding member but not the founder. Additionally she isn’t a prophetess. She claims no authority over the Bible. She herself said if she says anything that disagrees with the Bible then go with what the Bible said. Additionally we don’t believe true Christianity was lost. We believe that true followers of God have existed in every age. We do believe the mainstream church was horribly corrupted, and that the reformation was led by the Holy Spirit. Seventh Day Adventists did have an origin stemming from the Millerite movement. That movement used the book of Daniel to predict the Cleansing of the Sanctuary to happen in 1844. People thought the earth was the sanctuary so they thought Jesus was going to cleanse the earth then. When He didn’t return three groups of thought came out of that. One group decided the whole thing was hog wash, another thought the date was calculated wrong, and the third thought we misunderstood what the sanctuary was. The founders of the SDA church were a part of that last one. We believe that we had the date right but that the sanctuary was the heavenly sanctuary. The one that the earthly tabernacle and temple were modeled after. And that Jesus had begun the duties of the High Priest in heaven by entering the Fathers presence, as was done in the cleansing of the sanctuary during Passover. As you can guess from that description we believe that God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are three entities. We believe that together they are God. As far as I can understand that is what trinitarianism is. The anihilationism belief and the Saturday worship are both Biblically based. The more important of the two is the Saturday worship, since that is written into the Ten Commandments. We believe that if the day we worship on doesn’t matter then God wouldn’t have specified it. We also believe that the change of Saturday to Sunday was done to make it easier for pagans to be Christian without having to change their behavior. We don’t believe humans that the right or ability to change God’s eternal law. The Anihilationism stems from several verses in the Bible. In Ecclesiastes it is said that the living know they shall die, but the dead know nothing. In the Gospels Jesus described Lazarus as being asleep, meaning that he was dead. And since it was also said that the wages of sin is death, and that Jesus died so we could have eternal life, then the wicked will not burn in hell forever and ever. That would require them to live forever. The phrase forever and ever itself was an idiom at the time Revelation was written. It could mean literally forever, or it could mean as long as circumstances apply, or until completion. The later two interpretations make more sense when we take into account that unrepentant sinners can’t live forever. We depart from tradition because we believe tradition has departed from the Bible. We also believe that holding tradition in such high regard is what led to the Jewish leaders from being unable to recognize who Jesus was and what the messiah’s mission entailed. Yes we do believe in young earth creation. Or at the very least, seven day creation. That is because it is integral to God’s law. The 4th commandment has two reasons given for why we should follow it. One is the same as all the other Commandments, God brought us out of slavery. The other is stated in the commandment itself, for God made the world in six days and on the seventh He rested. In other words, if God didn’t create the world in seven days, (days defined as an evening and a morning) then a flaw appears in God’s immutable law. We believe that Jesus came to fulfill the law not do away with it, and that it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away before a jot or a tiddle is altered in The Law. And the fact that The Law is unchangeable is the whole reason that Jesus had to died for our sins. So if the world wasn’t created in seven days, then Gods Law is fallible, and Jesus’ death would be unnecessary. Seven day creation is integral to the gospel as it is in the Bible.
@leightonholley4342
@leightonholley4342 Год назад
I realized that I unintentionally called you a SDA in name only. I was directing that comment more to where he got his information from. I’m sorry if my lack of forethought was insulting.
@Pereira_Pedro
@Pereira_Pedro 8 месяцев назад
As a Seventh-day Adventist, I tend to say that in reality it is the video that does not describe our beliefs well, not that I am unaware of them 😅 May God bless you!
@iamishin7675
@iamishin7675 Год назад
Great videos man, keep it up!
@laursieloise
@laursieloise Год назад
i grew up going to a UU church and i’m being so serious when i say there were no bibles, no mentions of God, and no mentions of Jesus at all. like i didn’t even know who Jesus was for a while. people never believe me when i tell them that i got the sex talk at church when i was like five 💀
@nolunch4908
@nolunch4908 Год назад
As a Seventh-Day Adventist I can let you know that we do believe in the holy Trinity of the Father the son and the holy ghost. I won't blame you for not knowing this simply because we're not very good at telling people what we believe. And as far as the state of the Dead an ecclesiastic 9:5 it talks about when we are dead we know nothing until Jesus comes it's not that we believe that you won't be raised from the dead we just believes that you're dead until Jesus comes he don't go straight to heaven or hell you were just in the ground
@danielemagliulo565
@danielemagliulo565 Месяц назад
yeah of course but like the creed is literally on the website... is really clear lol.
@kingofslimes255
@kingofslimes255 Год назад
Entertaining, interesting, and seems to be theologically correct as well; you've earned a like & sub
@connorgibbs7316
@connorgibbs7316 Год назад
I'm an apostolic Pentecostal and I believe that all three is one in Jesus name amen
@iamethancarroll
@iamethancarroll Год назад
At 19:08 you say you were initially baptized in a heretical group and now I'm really curious which one it was.
@Swiftninjatrev
@Swiftninjatrev Год назад
Same 😂
@bremjo7929
@bremjo7929 Год назад
Same here, I can take a couple guesses into which ones it isn’t but I have no idea.
@lizzsszzy7800
@lizzsszzy7800 11 месяцев назад
Maybe LDS? Their ministers baptize in the name of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, but their core belief of the 3 is different from Nicene Christianity. There was an Episcopalian bishop who allowed to be confirmed and ordained with an LDS baptism, although most churches require re-baptism.
@AbbyDoesYouTube
@AbbyDoesYouTube 3 месяца назад
This video gives a lot of misunderstanding about the LDS church. As a member of the Church, I would like to correctly explain: 1. We believe Jesus, God, and the Holy Ghost are different and are separate Beings. 2. God was not “once a Man” and we will not “become God”; God is Eternal, and we were too, then we were sent down to Earth a a test of our loyalty. Jesus Christ is the Chosen Son who died so that we could live with God forever if we follow the Church. 3. No actual member of the church believes that “Jesus is God”, read the Articles of Faith bro there’s only 13. I swear this guy never thought to actually read about the LDS Church, it breaks my heart because I love these videos but he really is just misinformed. I’m happy to answer any questions yall might have 💗
@katherineayala7794
@katherineayala7794 Год назад
A little clarity on some parts that you have wrong about the SDA beliefs in this video: 1. Ellen G. White never claimed to be a prophetess. In fact, there are several citations in which she herself states that she will not utilize that title. 2. Our beliefs (or at least as I was taught growing up) are that people DO go to hell, but AFTER Christ returns. People will burn according to their sins, and THEN cease to exist. This is based on the belief that God will get rid of all sin and make everything perfect in the end. 3. We do believe in the Trinity: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost as three distinct persons. As for a creed, I will have to look more into that but it was interesting to realize from this video that we do not have a creed. I will research more. Otherwise, thank you for doing some research! I myself identify as more non-denominational but grew up SDA and hold a lot of it's core beliefs close to me still. God be with you.
@Paypon-uc7mx
@Paypon-uc7mx Месяц назад
Hey please don’t take this the wrong way but I’m genuinely curious. Where do the people go that are waiting to go to hell? Also like most verses referring to God getting rid of all sin it’s mostly used towards us like he will take away our sin and that in his domain (heaven and after the tribulation and all that jazz earth and new heaven) there will be no sin. Hell is the absence of God it is separation from God it’s not Gods domain. So like my question is where does it say in the Bible that there’s a different place like a holding place until hell? And like where does it say that people will cease to exist once their debts were paid off? Please use Bible verses because imma very Bible oriented person.
@danielemagliulo565
@danielemagliulo565 Месяц назад
@@Paypon-uc7mx hey SDa here commenting on her behalf. the bible is very clear about the state of the dead: they are asleep. It's true sins is seperation from God however how can he say that there'll be no suffering in the whole universe if people and satans ans demos will be burning forver while we are happy? sin will be not allowed never agin in the universe. Simply when god return there's the jugment and well to be precise they will be judged after the period of 1000 years beacuse every eye will see him. there's not a special place like a waiting area: they are wether alive pending on judgment or they are dead so asleep the same as Lazzarus when he died. Hope this helps! may God bless you!
@waterdrinkerrr
@waterdrinkerrr Год назад
Plz do a video on Bible translations!!! Would be interesting to hear your perspective and what you use regularly.
@TheJoeschmoe777
@TheJoeschmoe777 Год назад
Nice video! My aunt actually goes to a non denominational church that recites the Nicene Creed every Sunday. The only difference is that they say "universal church" instead of "catholic church" because that confuses people, lol.
@lizzsszzy7800
@lizzsszzy7800 11 месяцев назад
The non-denominational church I went to in high school did the same thing
@user-xh4xr5gc5s
@user-xh4xr5gc5s Год назад
I have a quick question, what was your source for the Mormons/LDS? I'm not trying to start an argument; I am just really curious. 😊 I can't find anything on it.😵‍💫 I do not speak for my church. I speak for my own beliefs and my own curiosity.
@CaptainMoroni19
@CaptainMoroni19 2 дня назад
He was pulling everything about the LDS church out of his ass. He has a negative bias about us.
@MrGeek6000
@MrGeek6000 Год назад
I love kingdom craft, thank you Redeemed Zoomer
@kenton5982
@kenton5982 Год назад
Baptist here, do you think that all denominations or all that use the Nicene Creed are true and lead their members to Heaven and Christ? Or do you think that some denominations are wrong? (I love your content)
@lootbot
@lootbot 9 месяцев назад
As a member of the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints, (Mormon) I find your perspective interesting and never really thought of the LDS church as not a (true) or original Christian church. Although I see what you mean when you call it not a true Christian church, I of course having a different viewpoint and religion, disagree. But I respect your opinion and your extensive knowledge in other religions. the only reason I disagree is because I think being an LDS member, that we share many many beliefs with most other Christian churches and the only thing that sets us apart in the Christian world as far as being a Christian church is that we believe that God was once man and that Man will eventually become God. In the LDS church, it is believed that If man follows the commandments, and gets sealed in the temple, they will be ressurected to the celestial kingdom to then live on eternally with their family, which is the most prestigious of the three heavenly kingdoms; celestial, terrestrial, and telestial. And those in the highest tier in the celestial kingdom, will then become gods and have the abilities of god. My personal interpretation of all these scriptures is that god once was living life as man similar to us, and had a god before him, and those in the celestial kingdom who will eventually become gods will then have their own children and send them to their own earth to be tested and put to trial, and then the best of their children may become gods and do the same. I think it is an eternal cycle. And something that has no start nor end. Of course this is only my interpretation and I just started researching more of this topic after coming across this video. But I thank you, for taking me down this rabbit hole of research into my own beliefs.
@stalinjosefstalin480
@stalinjosefstalin480 Год назад
I've recently begun reading the Bible for the first time. I'm about to finish 2 Samuel. Because I'm still learning, I don't know which denomination of church I should begin going to. I don't even know of any churches near me other than a Catholic church. Are there any tips you have for someone just beginning to believe The Faith who doesn't know what to do other than read the Bible?
@stalinjosefstalin480
@stalinjosefstalin480 Год назад
I should've actually looked at your other videos before writing this comment out.
@ikkystiky1134
@ikkystiky1134 Год назад
Hey man, I'm so glad you are thinking of going to church. I am a protestant, and I believe similar things that this youtuber does. I highly reccomend a PCA church, though it is entirely up to you. It is important to have fellowship with others, especially at critical points in your faith (right now). Overall, i'm glad you are considering it. Also, Before you read the old testament of the bible, it is very important to understand the fundamentals of the christian faith. I recommend starting with the Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) before you start getting into the old testament. Keep at it! You will be in my prayers.
@umrapazai7484
@umrapazai7484 Год назад
Christian Stalin? That guy Jesus must really be onto something
@umrapazai7484
@umrapazai7484 Год назад
@@ikkystiky1134 I second the NT beginning. Familiarize yourself with the notion of the Old Testament being only a shadow of God's Revelation, that achieved it's peek through Christ + the history of Israel and jewish people in general and then read the gospels, I would say. All the love, Comrade Stalin
@sergeantspear4212
@sergeantspear4212 Год назад
I personally would say, on the topic of what church to attend, simply find one that believes the essentials and from there begin to determine your own opinions on less important theologies. The Bible says to assemble with other Christians, so find a fellowship as soon as you can! I would advise against a Catholic church, however, because of my opinion that Catholicism is only sort of Christianity. I pray you'd find the right church and be in God's will!
@serpico3310
@serpico3310 Год назад
Love the content. Christ is King!
@aydenevans417
@aydenevans417 Год назад
honestly i have deep respect for mormons, they seem to follow their faith much more closely than other christians i see, they have close families and are very tight nit in their communities
@Mic1904
@Mic1904 Год назад
I can understand that. I also have great respect for some of the Muslim families I've met, particularly their familial bond, sense of morals, and their hospitality. Unfortunately, still doesn't change that their religion can't save. At a human level, I have great respect for some that I've met.
@nathanscovell2895
@nathanscovell2895 Год назад
cults are like that
@kingkongdong6074
@kingkongdong6074 Год назад
@@nathanscovell2895could say that same about every religion lol. I was raised a catholic and I could very well call some things cult-like. We had a priest molest several kids in our church and his punishment was only relocation. Who cares how people worship Christ or God, as long as they are nice, is my philosophy nowadays.
@briandavis6898
@briandavis6898 Год назад
By their fruits
@MetaKnight964
@MetaKnight964 11 месяцев назад
@@Mic1904 Except most muslim "families" are abusive, not to mention polygamous.
@michaelrogers1066
@michaelrogers1066 Год назад
Can you talk about Holiness denominations like Church of the Nazarene?
@pancakepsychology1533
@pancakepsychology1533 Год назад
I recently left the LDS Church/Mormonism, and have felt very confused trying to figure out what beliefs I have are true and what beliefs I need to reexamine. I'm very glad I've found your videos, as it's been pretty great to see which beliefs do set them apart and to see the fundamental beliefs of other groups. I'm hoping that slowly I'll be able to detangle my beliefs, and I hope you keep making great informative videos like always!
@dylanwilliams2202
@dylanwilliams2202 Год назад
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is God's and Jesus Christ one and only true church here on earth. We know and teach the Bible and gospel better than any other denomination. Rejoin God and Jesus Christ in their Kingdom and rejoin their true church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and learn all that they have to offer. Learn of their glory and mercy, learn of the plan they have of you.
@leviwilliams9601
@leviwilliams9601 Месяц назад
​@@dylanwilliams2202 Joseph Smith fails the test of Scripture. He taught blatantly false doctrine, was a false prophet, and believes in a multiple Gods. He created a non Christian church and the Mormon gospel cannot save you. Repent or perish... Believe in the one triune God of scripture. Your works cannot save you and you will be judged.
@CaptainMoroni19
@CaptainMoroni19 2 дня назад
Dude left the church to learn more about it from someone who hates us? Can’t argue with that kind of logic
@igorlopes7589
@igorlopes7589 5 месяцев назад
19:40 How can there be hiearchichal continuity between presbyterians and early Church? Do you mean it as in a presybterian presybter was ordained by a presybter who was ordained by another presybter... who was ordained a Bishop who was ordained by another Bishop... who was ordained by an Apostle? Or do you mean the similarity of Church governance?
@richardbruno201
@richardbruno201 Год назад
I needed this. Thank you for the video.
@bingham6275
@bingham6275 Год назад
Interesting video! I liked it and it was definitely good to listen through: thanks for putting it up. Now, as a Christian who happens to currently go to a "Church of Christ", just thought I'd weigh in... I, as a Christian myself, don't find any problem with the Nicene Creed, but that doesn't mean I need to officially affirm it. Practically, that shouldn't make a difference to anyone: if I stick by what God actually says (the Bible), then I will be fine, and I don't need to agree with any human teaching to be God's. If other humans are waiting for me to agree with purely human affirmations about the Bible... well, that's an indication to me that they're relying more on man's way of confirming things than on God's way, which is a red flag for me. Affirm or don't, that doesn't mean anything: what matters is actually doing what the Bible says. If someone's standard is based on the words of mere men--no Divine involvement--then I think that's not very safe, and I'd run from that standard. Besides that fact, here's another: ultimately, Jesus saves people, not churches. Jesus is looking for the people who are doing their best to be like Him, and those people can exist in all sorts of churches. Just because your church is (on the whole) aligned with the Bible doesn't mean you'll be saved; just because your church is (on the whole) not aligned with the Bible doesn't mean you'll be lost. What that does mean is that each person needs to make their own choice about how they live, knowing that they'll answer to God for their decisions. Being in a "perfect church" (if that existed) doesn't matter if you aren't actually living right. Being part of a "non-heretical church" (as the video says) and confirming Nicene doesn't matter, if you're not actually living right. Ultimately, while this is an interesting discussion, I think that framing it in terms of "how much a church adheres to the Nicene Creed" misses the point of "how much a Christian adheres to the Bible", and that's a distinction that should be made. Inside of that umbrella, you can totally distinguish between pro- and anti- Nicene groups! But that's not what dictates a faithful individual.
@brandonchism6960
@brandonchism6960 Год назад
That’s a really well written response and a solid counter for CoC. I think you should watch his denominations vid if you haven’t. It’s the reason for this vid, and why the classification required discussion. However, he did cite specifically that Protestants as a whole put emphasis on the Bible versus the church itself. He does have his particulars on the creed, but he highlighted the weight of the word. I still get why you felt the need to respond to his thoughts, just wanted to highlight that point.
@PhoenixYah
@PhoenixYah Год назад
You spoke high TRUTH a whole lot of people saying they are christian don't belong to Jesus Christ GOD Yah/Yahweh.
@bingham6275
@bingham6275 Год назад
@@brandonchism6960 Makes sense to me: I don't know if I've seen the video you're referencing or not, but I'll look for it. I certainly think the creeds are interesting, but I don't want to put ALL my trust in a purely manmade document.
@brandonchism6960
@brandonchism6960 Год назад
@@bingham6275 fair enough. Which version of the Bible is the go to text for CoC? Is there any conversation about text translation from Hebrew, Greek, or Aramaic? I ask because even the concept of love is muddled in translation from Hebrew to English. Better said, is the KJV for instance taken as is or is there room for nuance?
@bingham6275
@bingham6275 Год назад
​@@brandonchism6960 Every now and then you get one 'King James only' person, but I don't force my preference on others and they don't force theirs on me. I can't speak for 'the CoC' (because each congregation under that name tends to do its own thing), but I've been to a ton of different ones and I haven't seen an 'authorized version' at any of them. I have often heard about different translations and their accuracy in dealing with the original languages, and there's a general preference among most Christians I know for more word-for-word translations instead of the thought-for-thought kind, but again, everybody's different on that. I've heard preaching from KJV, the Message, and the ESV in the same sermon. Personally, I like NASB and CSB, with a bit of ESV or NKJV or NET as well. Varied reading helps get a general sense of the text instead of getting stuck on strict English definitions that represent a general idea of the Greek words, at that doesn't really work. I prefer to read widely rather than relying entirely on any one group of human translators.
@epicthecandydragon6079
@epicthecandydragon6079 3 месяца назад
so I’m a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (and a zoomer), I really appreciate the deference you give to all of our brothers and sisters. We do believe that God must have been mortal at some point, but we don’t think that negates His eternal nature. It’s just that we believe all entities are eternal, and all mankind has divine potential. Before we were mortal, we were born to Him as His spirit children, and we agreed to live mortal lives as part of His plan to one day reunite together again in Heaven as fully fleshed and divine beings. Jesus, the Lord’s only begotten son in the flesh, is central to the plan. He died for our sins and gave us the Atonement, so no matter how faulty and weak we are in mortality we can always ask repent to Him.
@sraveiryorkshire5770
@sraveiryorkshire5770 18 дней назад
Amen.
@itsbunny2552
@itsbunny2552 Год назад
Ok I go to a Non-Denominational church that uses the London Baptist Confession thats good right?
@redeemedzoomer6053
@redeemedzoomer6053 Год назад
Yup
@fenydoesgaming3249
@fenydoesgaming3249 Год назад
if your a latter day saint ( Mormon) can you still join the Minecraft sever?
@jackyjess7273
@jackyjess7273 Год назад
Please do more in depth on Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day saints. I’d love to hear more of what you think because the one point you made about God once being a man is not the bases of our lives. Jesus Christ is the bases of our lives. We are 100% Christian because we follow the teachings of Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
@LuKe-xj3uj
@LuKe-xj3uj Год назад
as orthodox christian i love your videos and your channel
@thekingshussar1808
@thekingshussar1808 Год назад
This got to be my favourite Minecraft Theology for Breakfast channel
@capnmilkman
@capnmilkman Год назад
super interesting stuff! G-d bless brother!
@dustinbird9170
@dustinbird9170 Год назад
Was always curious about 7day adventists, thanks. Also, one of the biggest and funniest revelations from this channel was why I always felt the non denom church I was baptized into in highschool was so similar to the Baptist church i was raised in. Also, you have done so much to clear up my thoughts and anxieties on ecumenical and denominational issues. Thank you and keep up the good work
@leightonholley4342
@leightonholley4342 Год назад
As a seventh day Adventist, I can attest that nearly everything he said about us was almost correct. It seemed like he heard it secondhand. I have a comment that responds to everything said in the video about us, but it’s a wall of text. If you want I could copy it into a reply, or you could find it yourself if you’d prefer.
@PurpleGold.
@PurpleGold. Год назад
@@leightonholley4342 I was raised as a Seventh Day Adventist and still go to church when I can. But I consider myself to be non-denominational. I would greatly appreciate your take, even if it’s a long comment. Am happy to read it. Just a suggestion: if you are going to write a long comment, please try and break it up into paragraphs. It makes it easier for people to read it. I don’t want to be the only one reading it. I would love it if you could enlighten others with what you know as a sevy.
@leightonholley4342
@leightonholley4342 Год назад
Breaking up a comment into paragraphs is my preference. Formatting is cool. Ellen white didn’t found the SDA church. She was a founding member but not the founder. Additionally she isn’t a prophetess. She claims no authority over the Bible. She herself said if she says anything that disagrees with the Bible then go with what the Bible said. Additionally we don’t believe true Christianity was lost. We believe that true followers of God have existed in every age. We do believe the mainstream church was horribly corrupted, and that the reformation was led by the Holy Spirit. Seventh Day Adventists did have an origin stemming from the Millerite movement. That movement used the book of Daniel to predict the Cleansing of the Sanctuary to happen in 1844. People thought the earth was the sanctuary so they thought Jesus was going to cleanse the earth then. When He didn’t return three groups of thought came out of that. One group decided the whole thing was hog wash, another thought the date was calculated wrong, and the third thought we misunderstood what the sanctuary was. The founders of the SDA church were a part of that last one. We believe that we had the date right but that the sanctuary was the heavenly sanctuary. The one that the earthly tabernacle and temple were modeled after. And that Jesus had begun the duties of the High Priest in heaven by entering the Fathers presence, as was done in the cleansing of the sanctuary during Passover. As you can guess from that description we believe that God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are three entities. We believe that together they are God. As far as I can understand that is what trinitarianism is. The anihilationism belief and the Saturday worship are both Biblically based. The more important of the two is the Saturday worship, since that is written into the Ten Commandments. We believe that if the day we worship on doesn’t matter then God wouldn’t have specified it. We also believe that the change of Saturday to Sunday was done to make it easier for pagans to be Christian without having to change their behavior. We don’t believe humans that the right or ability to change God’s eternal law. The Anihilationism stems from several verses in the Bible. In Ecclesiastes it is said that the living know they shall die, but the dead know nothing. In the Gospels Jesus described Lazarus as being asleep, meaning that he was dead. And since it was also said that the wages of sin is death, and that Jesus died so we could have eternal life, then the wicked will not burn in hell forever and ever. That would require them to live forever. The phrase forever and ever itself was an idiom at the time Revelation was written. It could mean literally forever, or it could mean as long as circumstances apply, or until completion. The later two interpretations make more sense when we take into account that unrepentant sinners can’t live forever. We depart from tradition because we believe tradition has departed from the Bible. We also believe that holding tradition in such high regard is what led to the Jewish leaders from being unable to recognize who Jesus was and what the messiah’s mission entailed. Yes we do believe in young earth creation. Or at the very least, seven day creation. That is because it is integral to God’s law. The 4th commandment has two reasons given for why we should follow it. One is the same as all the other Commandments, God brought us out of slavery. The other is stated in the commandment itself, for God made the world in six days and on the seventh He rested. In other words, if God didn’t create the world in seven days, (days defined as an evening and a morning) then a flaw appears in God’s immutable law. We believe that Jesus came to fulfill the law not do away with it, and that it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away before a jot or a tiddle is altered in The Law. And the fact that The Law is unchangeable is the whole reason that Jesus had to died for our sins. So if the world wasn’t created in seven days, then Gods Law is fallible, and Jesus’ death would be unnecessary. Seven day creation is integral to the gospel as it is in the Bible.
@PurpleGold.
@PurpleGold. Год назад
@@leightonholley4342 Thank you so much Leighton. I didn’t expect an answer, let alone such an in-depth one. This clarifies so many things for me. I felt the Holy Spirit gently speaking to me as I read your paragraphs, and got goosebumps all over! I am going to take screenshots of this reply and share it with both my biological brother and sister who are devout Seventh-day Adventists. They are glad and their hearts are filled with joy that I’ve come back to the church. Thank you and Amen brother.
@leightonholley4342
@leightonholley4342 Год назад
@@PurpleGold. I'm glad I could clarify some things for you. I often pray that the Holy Spirit will use me, so I'm glad that you asked about these things. As Jesus said seek and you will find.
@Patrick3183
@Patrick3183 Год назад
My friends attend a non denominational church. Drives me up the wall.
@hellonicetomeetyou2711
@hellonicetomeetyou2711 Год назад
Yea the way they worship isn't my cup of tea either even though by beliefs alone I would likely fall into that category myself.
@jacksonhall2334
@jacksonhall2334 Год назад
My nondenominational church recites the apostles creed every so often. It’s one of the reasons I love it so much
@user-dd9pv9pv9p
@user-dd9pv9pv9p Год назад
Since you mentioned that SDAs are on the fence, I would like to hear your opinion about Messianic Jews since they hold basically the same beliefs, i.e., observe the sabbath, old testament law, kosher laws etc.
@wr_royalty
@wr_royalty 8 месяцев назад
LDS here, not sure why members of our church have sought out the “Christian” label. the mainstream church’s, along with our denominations’, beliefs, practices, and lifestyle are fundamentally separate from mainstream Christianity (for better and for worse - i.e; the FLDS) but, regardless, we still proclaim the divinity of Jesus Christ, and that his sacrifice, and thus the belief in his gospel, is the only way to obtain eternal life with God. infighting and aggression towards each other based off of myopic discrepancies is useless when the gospel of Jesus Christ is needed now more than ever. God loves all of his children, and wants us to cooperate in gathering his children for the second coming.
@niccolopaganini1782
@niccolopaganini1782 8 месяцев назад
But I think your beliefs about God and Jesus’ divinity are not in line with the mainline Christianity
@6x6-
@6x6- 3 месяца назад
@@niccolopaganini1782 yes that’s correct
@frigidfirefilms6147
@frigidfirefilms6147 3 месяца назад
​@@niccolopaganini1782According to this video, no, but members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints believe that Jesus came to Earth, died, rose from the dead, and offers us redemption from our sins. I think that make me Christian.
@niccolopaganini1782
@niccolopaganini1782 3 месяца назад
@@frigidfirefilms6147 first of all the whole Joseph Smith issue, the secrecy and the extra biblical rituals, similar to freemasonry and also their Christology and Theology. We don't believe in the the same God, henceforth not Christian.
@zarahglaze5236
@zarahglaze5236 7 месяцев назад
Your comments seem more opinionated than fact-based. Specifically for the SDA church, we have a website for our fundamental beliefs, we also believe in the same trinity as all Christians. You can literally look it up, so I'm not sure what you mean by you or others not knowing what our Trinity is? Second, we believe in hell, we just don't believe you will be burning for all eternity. And while Ellen G. White is our main prophet we had others before her. It's funny that you think a Creed made by man after the church had already been corrupted by the paganist practices of Rome and the Catholic Church is what determines "True" Christianity. Lastly, you did not mention any of our fundamental beliefs, which actually describes what we believe and not what you feel/think we believe. But go off I guess....
@danielemagliulo565
@danielemagliulo565 Месяц назад
slay, I agree. Like literally... there's a website? you can see the 28 believes really easly. to be honest i feel disappointed i thought he was going to do a proper study or video.
@Ilovewateriamwater
@Ilovewateriamwater Год назад
Thanks for saying not all pentecostal believe that i left pentecostal church because my old pastor left and stuff so i’m open to finding a new denomination because i jumped too fast into the other church and never did as much research and understanding as i should have, i’ve only been saved since last dec so still learning and i’m trying to find my place in christianity my last church (pentecostal) did meet up with the basics of christianity but they were a-bit radical and i disagreed with some stuff so anyone please give me some recommendations of what to look into please
@rickyparrish2570
@rickyparrish2570 10 месяцев назад
As a baptist, yes, we do have long interviews with out pastors before joining the church. I had several lunches with my current pastor prior to joining, where we talked explicitly about theology.
@nerm9507
@nerm9507 Год назад
If I had to guess why the Oneness debate still exists, it’s that the different between “One God in Three Persons” and “One God in three Forms” is such a fine hair to split for all but the most heady and educated believers. It’s not a doctrine that’s easy for a layperson to differentiate.
@iagoofdraiggwyn98
@iagoofdraiggwyn98 Год назад
I think it has to do more of comfort in cadigorization. To say a single Person in three forms is easy to understand, and there is comfort to that. Its logically equivocal to tangible things we can witness, such as the water metaphor. While saying there is a single God, who exists in three persons, there isnt any realistic means to understand or define that more then itself. Its not really a matter of complexity, as it is a matter of comfort. Its more of milk v meat debate when i think of it. We can never understand the fullnesss of God, as he is infinite and we are finite, what we can understand is what God is not. And though negitive affirmation, we can gain some understanding of what God is. Which is a step many arent comfortable taking because no one likes to be wrong, so instead they defend the more simplistic approach, because its easier and more comfortable to.
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