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What Electrical Work is a DIYer Allowed to do? 

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@gordonm2821
@gordonm2821 9 месяцев назад
The key difference about electricity and plumbing. An electrical circuit will work because you know what you are doing. A newly fitted plumbing fixing will leak because it hates you.
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 9 месяцев назад
Hahaha very true, compression fittings can be very annoying especially if not new
@willmitchell255
@willmitchell255 9 месяцев назад
😂
@thomashodgkison6180
@thomashodgkison6180 9 месяцев назад
Nice to see you back. An informative video. Thanks
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 9 месяцев назад
Thank you, thanks for watching!
@itwillbenicewhenitsfinished
@itwillbenicewhenitsfinished 9 месяцев назад
It’s been a long wait - glad you’re back 😀👍
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 9 месяцев назад
Thank you! Trying to get back on it!
@timsaxon8944
@timsaxon8944 9 месяцев назад
Love your videos on this topic!
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 9 месяцев назад
Thank you, thanks for watching!
@RichardDowd
@RichardDowd 9 месяцев назад
Great stuff, can do more than i thought😊
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 9 месяцев назад
Glad to hear it, thanks for watching!!
@Carlos1180
@Carlos1180 5 месяцев назад
Whereas I may do less than I thought. Errrrrrr 🤫
@GoProGeeks
@GoProGeeks 9 месяцев назад
I think you may have misready the special location element. Special location is only within zones, so if your ceiling is higher than 2.25m from finished floor level then it is not a special location, and as such you can change the fixtures, following regulations such as IP rating etc.
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 9 месяцев назад
Yes you’re absolutely right, I thought it was more prudent to just say special locations. I do actually have a video where I cover the zones in detail, my downlights video. Thanks for watching!
@agbodjaloudenis
@agbodjaloudenis 7 месяцев назад
you're doing a great work 🙏🙏
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 7 месяцев назад
Thank you, very kind of you to say! More videos coming very soon!
@alexcharles321
@alexcharles321 9 месяцев назад
Kitchen work is no longer part P notifiable, unless you add a new circuit of course. Good video though covering each step from source to socket 👍🏼
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for the info! Thanks for watching!
@harrywilliams682
@harrywilliams682 9 месяцев назад
He's back!
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 9 месяцев назад
At long last haha, going try more regularly uploading
@richbrown8174
@richbrown8174 9 месяцев назад
Think you can get change or a consumer unit but must get a suitable person to certify it 🤔
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 9 месяцев назад
Yes that is true, but I don’t think there are many electricians who would sign off someone else’s work. Thanks for watching!
@Raysnature
@Raysnature 9 месяцев назад
As mentioned above re building control signing it of, it's theoretically possible but they'll charge a fortune for it, they'll want to see your test reading - for which you'll need to acquire an expensive test meter and have it calibrated. Cheaper to get a sparks in to do it. In general you'll not get an electrician to certify someone else's work. That's partly they want the work but also it's their neck on the line if something goes wrong.
@michaelconduit5893
@michaelconduit5893 9 месяцев назад
Changed consumer unit all RCBO and added a shower circuit. myself. Council provided quote for testing completed work which covered 2 visits (if necessary). . I purchased an ohmeter that would measure to hundredths of ohm to check for all the circuits. Council test man spent about 40 mins checking everything and passed it all at first attempt.. Interestingly there is no retest date on the consumer unit because that is purely electricians looking for work rather than required under the regulations. I went the council route to get the job done properly (all within confines of existing Mantel cabinet) , the 4 quotes I got from electricians were not wanting to do the job properly and were looking for add ons to increase their work.
@richbrown8174
@richbrown8174 9 месяцев назад
@@michaelconduit5893 Council route possibly best as they're not looking/creating work and the installation passed out fails on a level playing field
@jeremybarker7577
@jeremybarker7577 9 месяцев назад
When I last checked the fees Building Control charges where I live it was about £400 for a full rewire and about £300 for all other work. In almost all cases the additional cost of using an electrician is far more than the BC fee although it will also depend on how much value the time you need to do the work yourself.
@jakebarnes3054
@jakebarnes3054 6 месяцев назад
Really enjoying the channel and the way you explain stuff. What are some of the best videos on yours that you would hypothetically recommend to your past self to learn DIY fundamentals?
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 6 месяцев назад
Thank you, very kind of you to say! It depends what kind of jobs you’re likely to undertake really. I guess you could sort by most viewed and that shows you what most other people have found most helpful, which seems to be electrical and sockets specifically. Thank you for watching!
@jonduffin7560
@jonduffin7560 5 месяцев назад
Hi, appreciate this video. I would like to see a video on small projects which involve multiple components (motor + light), adding relays such as timers or installation tips and tricks.
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching!
@errolmagill1611
@errolmagill1611 9 месяцев назад
Thanks 👍
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching!
@wollywotsit
@wollywotsit 9 месяцев назад
Good vid cheers
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching!
@PoEt121
@PoEt121 8 месяцев назад
Hi Thanks for all the educational videos. I wonder if you can shed a light on garden rooms by uploading a video on garden rooms and sheds. Many thanks 🙏
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 8 месяцев назад
You’re very welcome! I am planning on building a garden room so I will do a video on it then, but will be at least a few months away I’m afraid! Thanks for watching!
@PoEt121
@PoEt121 8 месяцев назад
@@TheDiligentDIYer1759 thanks mate looking forward to it🙏
@MrSpeady111
@MrSpeady111 7 месяцев назад
Part P states that you cannot install a consumer unit not that you can't remove the cover on one and work on it, eg to replace a failed MCB like for like. Unless I'm missing something?
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching
@Ifitwerks
@Ifitwerks 5 месяцев назад
Can you do one on close v coarse circuit protection and mcbs V rccboS as that would help understand the differences thanks.
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 5 месяцев назад
I’ll put it on the list, thanks for watching!
@_tmmy_
@_tmmy_ 9 месяцев назад
I’ve always done my own electrical work by the book as a DIYer as I feel like there are far too many incompetent “electricians” out there who really give the trade a bad name. I think most people with common sense know that it is not worth touching anything in the consumer unit as even with the main switch off the meter tails are still gonna be live so it is not worth the risk. Plus circuit breakers and terminals inside a consumer unit need to be specifically torqued to a certain setting as recommended by the manufacturers. Only proper electricians will have a torque screwdriver to hand.
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 9 месяцев назад
Yes you are right, I think the worst are rogue landlords trying to save a few quid. Thanks for watching!
@djpatricksmiley383
@djpatricksmiley383 9 месяцев назад
Anyone can say they are a spark and just be a DIY er like yourself. I hope that you test all your work, because even if your sockets or lights etc are working, it doesn't mean it is working under fault conditions and you can end up killing people.
@davideyres955
@davideyres955 9 месяцев назад
@@djpatricksmiley383it’s not just the fault that it may be working under, it’s also the quality of what is done. For example failing to use a grommet on a back box entry. No fault at the time but could wear through the insulation eventually and cause it to go live. If you failed to connect the earth (cpc) to the faceplate and it’s a metal plate then the face plate would be live and you’d get a shock.
@tonywatson1412
@tonywatson1412 6 месяцев назад
I take your point about the grommets.but a cable in a back box rarely if ever moves​@@davideyres955
@MrMoo272
@MrMoo272 9 месяцев назад
Being as i cant open up my consumer unit, am i allowed to reroute an existing circuit? Like could i re-purpose an unused oven circuit (ignore the kitchen zone rules for now) into a standard radial circuit with a couple of (or even just one) sockets? Obviously, i would have to change the labelling on the front of consumer unit.
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 9 месяцев назад
It is okay to modify an existing circuit, and what you’ve described sounds like it could be considered a modification. Obviously at your own risk though. Thanks for watching!
@GailyFix
@GailyFix 9 месяцев назад
Careful with any spurs, though. An oven circuit will likely have a 30A breaker and 6mm cable that can take that current. If you run any thinner cable onwards from the existing wiring, you could be drawing way too much current than say a 2.5mm cable could take and run a fire risk. You'd need to either run thick cable or, safer, have a lower amperage breaker on the circuit.
@ukamateurs8816
@ukamateurs8816 8 месяцев назад
Anytime a cable size is reduced it needs to be fused down. You’d overcome that problem by installing a FCU between the 6mm and 2.5mm.
@MrMoo272
@MrMoo272 8 месяцев назад
Thanks all for the advice. The plan is to replace the cooker isolation switch for an armoured cable junction box or isolation switch, run 6mm armoured cable out to the shed and stick a small garage consumer unit on it. From there, I'll have 6a breaker and 16a breaker for lights and sockets.
@ukamateurs8816
@ukamateurs8816 8 месяцев назад
Just a few little tips on that! Any junctions need to be accessible unless maintenance free. The armoured will need to have both glands connected to Earth and if you bury the cable it should be deep enough and indication should be placed over it. Also your garage consumer unit is covered by the same regulations as your main CU. It’s effectively a submains and any other circuits added will need to be treated as such.
@CH-vb5kr
@CH-vb5kr 8 месяцев назад
Consumer units now have to be made of metal? Isn't that going backwards: plastic doesn't conduct electricity: so apart from during a fire, I would have thought that a plastic consumer unit would be safer???
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 8 месяцев назад
You would have thought so, but now it is metal as they contain a fire for longer than plastic, in case you get a fire inside the consumer unit. The case is painted metal, so lower chance of conducting, but absolutely agree it is a risk. Thanks for watching!
@ukamateurs8816
@ukamateurs8816 8 месяцев назад
It’s a case of risk vs reward. There will always be some sort of trade off. You can sit all day and imagine all the unsafe scenarios that will occur and try to mitigate for them all. That would leave you with a very costly DB. The chances of your main Earth becoming disconnected plus a live conductor becoming loose and then touching the casing is a lot lower than a poor connection of one of your final circuits resulting in a fire.
@kempshott
@kempshott 9 месяцев назад
Confusingly the DNO Western Power (as in your map) is now called National Grid.
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 9 месяцев назад
That is a strange choice! Thanks for watching
@Raysnature
@Raysnature 9 месяцев назад
@@TheDiligentDIYer1759 It is the NG not another NG, they've branched out. They are my DNO.
@teacheme
@teacheme 9 месяцев назад
Interesting info. Although I am aware of virtually everything you talked about it is always good practice to be reminded of the do's and don'ts. I just wish I could find an electrician who was prepared to change my consumer unit. After 3 "no shows" I lost the will to live! What's wrong with people in this industry?
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching! That is frustrating, I don’t think that issue is unique to electricians though, it seems to have become society wide in the last few years
@teacheme
@teacheme 9 месяцев назад
Totally agree. A gardener promised to carry out some work for a not inconsiderate fee, didn't turn up, phoned a week later making excuses then again promised to visit the next day. 2 months on and I'm still waiting. Maybe they are so flush with cash they can ignore lucrative jobs.
@bluechang08
@bluechang08 9 месяцев назад
@@teacheme It's not just electricians and plumbers. My mother and aunt have been waiting on 4 different bricklayers for well over a year now to rebuild their front garden wall. The first bricklayer came and took the old wall down and then disappeared, and despite many calls, promises and assurances he would come and do the work, he never bothered to come back. Then came a further three others who were contacted, agreed to to do the work then failed to show up. They have had the bricks, sand and cement sat in the gardn this whole time, having paid out for the materials themselves - they just need a competent bricklayer to actually do the work and upto now, they are failing at every turn.
@teacheme
@teacheme 9 месяцев назад
I get the impression that these so called professional tradesmen are not affected by the 'cost of living crisis' if they can ignore business like they all seem to do. Does this mean they make so much money ripping people off that they don't need any extra work?
@bluechang08
@bluechang08 9 месяцев назад
@@teacheme It's either that or there is so much work out there (because of COVID shutting everyone and everything down for a while) that they can pick and choose what work they take on, taking only the highest paying work available, leaving those of us who need small jobs (such as a new wall being built) high and dry. In my mothers case, the fact there is an acute shortage of bricklayers in the UK means those who can throw bricks are in extremely high demand, and can command hhigh prices.
@jonathanbuzzard1376
@jonathanbuzzard1376 9 месяцев назад
The little Englanders strike again. The rules are completely different in Scotland as there is no such thing as Part P. This is not surprising because they are part of England's building regulations which again are different from Scotland's. Edited to add roughly if you are not in a flat or three-storey building you can do your own electrics like you could in England prior to Part P being introduced.
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 9 месяцев назад
Interesting to know, thanks for watching
@user-ng2jk1pr9u
@user-ng2jk1pr9u 9 месяцев назад
Yea I do agree with u on this as part p is only England and Wales. not in Scotland and Northern Ireland as under as under local council area building control.
@jamesdean8864
@jamesdean8864 9 месяцев назад
Part P is just a competent person scheme, there’s other schemes too. this allows you to effectively sign off the works without needing to get some one from building control. DIYers can change the consumer unit, you need to then pay for the council to come out and certify it. Just the cost of that you may as well pay an electrician lol. So in Scotland, I take it you need to pay building control to come out and still certify ?
@jonathanbuzzard1376
@jonathanbuzzard1376 9 месяцев назад
@@jamesdean8864 No, nothing to do with building control *if* you are working on your own property and it's not a flat/tenement and it is less than three stories tall no certification is needed. You can do a full rewire if you want. Basically, it is like England prior to the introduction of Part P, but properties where a fault causing a fire has higher consequences then it needs to be certified. It should be noted that you are orders of magnitude more likely to be killed by a fire started by an electrical fault than be electrocuted. Personally, I think there is a middle ground where you could get a City and Guilds and provided you have a consumer unit to at least the 16th edition (aka RCD protected to at least the socket outlets) you can work on your own domestic electrics and self certify. Not that it applies to me living in Scotland in my own property which is not a flat and is less than three stories tall.
@jamesdean8864
@jamesdean8864 9 месяцев назад
@@jonathanbuzzard1376thank you for the reply, I never knew this. I don’t know how I feel about it either, I do agree we need a middle ground but at the same time IMO having regulation and laws around them ensures that there is a level of standard especially say if you were buying a home. Granted when buying a home the previous occupier could have done anything but I feel that the introduction of better electrical regulations has its value. Crazy that Scotland isn’t too far from me and the two countries are so different. Thanks again for the enlightenment, I’m going to use this down at the pub 😂
@maxtorque2277
@maxtorque2277 5 месяцев назад
ok i'm going to say it. When you pay someone to do a job, mostly, you get a pretty "bad" job. This is because an electrician is primarly an electrician to make money. Making money is based on the time you spend on a job,the shorter the time, the more profit you make. IME, pretty much no electrician has the time to properly and neatly route wiring for example, they tend to just pul the wires straight from A to B. Take a look at your own lecy cupboard at 0:18 into your video and look at the routing of the wires coming out of the consumer unit..... As a DIYer i have no real monitary constraints on my time. As a result, my wiring is far far better installed than any commercial wiring i've ever seen.......
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 5 месяцев назад
Yeah a DIYer who knows what they’re doing, generally does a better job. Thanks for watching!
@ukamateurs8816
@ukamateurs8816 8 месяцев назад
I think the advice you have given whilst technically correct could lead to someone getting in to a lot of trouble. If you are going to give out this kind of advice you should give people a little more information. I do realise it’s just a video to let people know the kind of thing they can do but you should be adding caveats that usually dissuade people from doing DIY works and thinking I’ll give it a go and use a qualified, competent electrician. There is a lot to consider to even an addition of a socket. Also you didn’t once mention BS7671. It may not be mandatory to follow those regulations they will certainly be used to prosecute anyone deemed to be at fault for injury or death from work they have carried out. While a simple socket change is not notifiable there is plenty that should be done according to BS7671 (for instance a minor works cert). If it’s not there is a risk DIY’ers could find themselves in trouble. You shouldn’t be dissuaded from doing the work but you should be made aware of the implications IF it does go wrong.
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing your opinion and watching
@smoggydrones5664
@smoggydrones5664 9 месяцев назад
I hate tradesmen, work poor, price expensive. Time keeping Ha !
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 9 месяцев назад
Unfortunately it is often the way, there are good eggs out there though. Thanks for watching!
@smoggydrones5664
@smoggydrones5664 9 месяцев назад
@@TheDiligentDIYer1759 Even a broken clock is right twice a day
@tonywright8294
@tonywright8294 5 месяцев назад
Electricity and DIY should never be in the same sentence. Don’t risk it ! If you have no choice TURN THE POWER OFF at the mains .
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching!
@atlasz911
@atlasz911 5 месяцев назад
Regardless of being registered or not, you can get away with a lot of things in your own house. It's a completely different story if the house burns or somebody get seriously injured at any time later on. In my opinion, if you are a DIYer and didn't receive at least proper practical training from a professional than please stay away from anything that: a) operates over 50V b) is able to deliver more than about 20A. (Welders know, why :-) ) c) is close to flamable materials d) has lithium batteries inside (YES!) While RC models have very powerful lithium based batteries, they can be operated safely following the guidlines. Operating the same batteries in a DIY circuit 24/7, unsupervised and inside a house can be dangerous. Many things can go wrong. Just replacing the plug of an old lamp could kill. Don't self-educate, make the first steps under supervision of an experienced person.
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing your opinion
@curtisj2165
@curtisj2165 6 месяцев назад
You haven't got a split load board, you have a dual rcd board
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 6 месяцев назад
Having done some research, it seems some people call a dual rcd board a split load board, but some people use the term when there is only one rcd protecting half the breakers, and the other half not protected by any rcd. Thanks for watching!
@jameshansing5396
@jameshansing5396 5 месяцев назад
in UK, we would call it a split load board!
@curtisj2165
@curtisj2165 5 месяцев назад
@@jameshansing5396 no we don't. Split load boards have rcd protected circuits on one half of the board and non rcd protected circuits on the other. 30+ years working as an electrician means i know what i am talking about
@jameshansing5396
@jameshansing5396 5 месяцев назад
@@curtisj2165 well that’s what usually call them when we are working as electricians 👍
@jameshansing5396
@jameshansing5396 5 месяцев назад
@@curtisj2165 certainly never heard it called a dual RCD board.
@thereal1006
@thereal1006 9 месяцев назад
20amps for a kitchen sockets is not enough really
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 9 месяцев назад
I’ve never had an issue with tripping, oven is on a separate circuit and hob is gas. I agree it would be nice to have more headroom, but whoever fitted it only did a radial in 2.5mm2, so no scope to increase without making a mess!
@thereal1006
@thereal1006 9 месяцев назад
when i do a rewire i run two 32a rings to a kitchen 1 for general sockets and 1 for the grid switch for the appliances. plus a cooker circuit @@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@jacktandy7720
@jacktandy7720 9 месяцев назад
Good video However the whole qualified electrician thing is very up in the air Obviously if you have your Gold card you’re good But I know people who have their level 2 and 18th edition who say they’re electricians I know people who have their level 2 and 3 who say they’re electricians
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 9 месяцев назад
Yes very true, thanks for watching!!
@supersparx1
@supersparx1 8 месяцев назад
So without a gold card you are not an electrician?
@ukamateurs8816
@ukamateurs8816 8 месяцев назад
As far as I am aware the only technical qualification you need to be an electrician is your level 3 (this may have changed, I’ll have to check). The only thing a gold card is representative of is the holder has been trained to a certain standard. Like all certifications it doesn’t guarantee what that person’s will be like once they leave the test centre. This is true of ALL certification schemes, from food hygiene to driving. Unfortunately in the real world there is no guarantee you will always get a good spark. A gold card is just a starting point.
@Fifury161
@Fifury161 9 месяцев назад
1:38 - what about Northern Ireland? You know the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland?
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 9 месяцев назад
SONI in Northern Ireland, thanks for watching!
@Fifury161
@Fifury161 9 месяцев назад
@@TheDiligentDIYer1759 You need to do better research - SONI is the licensed independent electricity Transmission System Operator (TSO) for Northern Ireland. There are currently no statutory requirements for domestic electrical installation work in Northern Ireland. Registered electricians in Northern Ireland work to the UK national safety standard (BS 7671) and will give you a safety certificate to confirm that their work has been designed, inspected and tested in line with that standard.
@djpatricksmiley383
@djpatricksmiley383 9 месяцев назад
Your giving out false information there mate. I know its not intentional, its that your just not aware of it.
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 9 месяцев назад
What aspects are false?
@djpatricksmiley383
@djpatricksmiley383 8 месяцев назад
Re watch your video, if you know what your talking about you will pick it up.
@davidjacobs3683
@davidjacobs3683 9 месяцев назад
The first 5 minutes have absolutely nothing to do with the title. Watch them if you like but if if you are watching this video to learn What electrical work is a DIYer allowed to do you are wasting your time.
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 9 месяцев назад
I agree it isn’t exactly what the title is, but still useful relevant information. Retention is strong, so people are watching it
@iceman9678
@iceman9678 9 месяцев назад
I hate UK outlets. Of all the outlets in the world the UK gets first place for the worst outlets.
@hawk_ness
@hawk_ness 9 месяцев назад
Consensus is that most people think they are the best about. I cant see any reason why they would be the worse that has to be given to the US plugs. They are one small step up from just jamming wires into the holes with toothpicks.
@TheDiligentDIYer1759
@TheDiligentDIYer1759 9 месяцев назад
UK plugs and outlets are definitely the best in the world
@iceman9678
@iceman9678 9 месяцев назад
This may be true when you only have one item that needs to be plugged in. It's an annoyance when hotels are equiped with these outlets.
@martinw245
@martinw245 9 месяцев назад
Actually, UK outlets have a great reputation, so do our fused plugs. It's the ring final circuit that doesn't because it requires additional testing.
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@martinw245 9 месяцев назад
​@iceman9678 What do you mean only one item to plug in. Most are twin sockets. And fused 3 gang sockets are available
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