What Exactly is a SUPER Modified? 

says your prediction on 2021 nascar schedule

If you do a slap on location I’ll probably make the trip out there. I’m about 3 hours away but have always wanted to go 😎

I appreciate the use of music from Trigun lol

Also the 3 to 1 car was Tim Richmond. Back when he still lived in Ohio

Hey fast fact current mod tour driver Rob Summers used to dominate in these

Insert Familly guys Noah's Arch meme

It also looks like it has a bit of top fuel dragster in it's DNA

And a dragster

Patrick Kennedy that’s where the 1200hp big block comes from. Lmaoo

Queue the 'Le 56% Face' memes here...

I think that rule is only for the weekly Oswego supers. ISMA mods still have independent front suspension. Hopefully someone can chime in on the reasons, cost savings maybe?

Independent front is now allowed at Oswego. Think that changed 2-3 years ago.

Why on earth did they have a problem with independent front suspension? Did they thought a straight axles wheel isn’t ripped of as easily and propelled into the crowd?

@@rolux4853 Cost probably. hard to beat a bar with bearings on each end.

@@MatsNorway The way you beat a bar with bearings on each end is by adding additional bars with independently adjustable length. a.k.a. multi-link independent suspension. But that's only performance-wise, the result is more expensive.

There's gonna be so many deaths lol

Actually that would be interesting. They have so much aero on them they may not run faster than a cup car there, but they run 900HP unrestricted so that could be wild

they actually tested them once at new hampshire motor speedway and they were so fast they shut down the test in a couple laps

They wouldnt be faster there because the wheels have no fender. But they do 160 at Bristol.

@@cainenschulz2115 yes they did... hoosier bout shit their pants at how quickly they were tearing up the hardest compounds they had.

Just hoping I could do y’all justice. Had no idea the Syracuse Mile was gone until I started doing research for this a month or so back. Wish I could have seen that track in person. Used to watch super dirt week every year on speed channel.

@@S1apShoes there is nothing like what the syracuse mile was.. but thats not all bad. I crew on a dirt modified team and while its not the mile, oswego is a lot of fun... it is a much more level playing field for everybody. Nobody has a weekly running there advantage. Even if your a low budget team you can be competitive if ya nail the setup. At Syracuse you had to have the big smoke under the hood.. $$ was king there

@@S1apShoes but while i have your ear. Just wanted to say i love your videos. And your no bs style of telling the story. Keepem coming

@@romanhendrickson8385 You ever make your way to Can-Am Speedway in La Fargeville? Used to spend every Saturday there.

@@TheFROSTER420 the team i crew on is good friends with the whole Bartlett family that runs the track. Its a 2 1/2 hour haul for us. But worth every mile becuase they treat the teams great, which creates a good car count, which creates a packed house. We love it there

You must have loved group B, if you were alive at the time

Group B: The scariest shit to happen in the woods since axe murders became a thing.

It was beautiful Chaos.

I want an entire video about *that* car.

Oh trust me having watched them regularly... they prolly have a offset weight box somewhere on the car for those too, to get a little more left side percentage....

I heard a story about a guy who had never driven a super modified, got into one even though his wife warned him not to, he ended up crashing and going to the hospital and when he woke up his wife was there and there was a hub from one of the wheels on the table with flowers in it and when he asked her “what’s that?” She told him “thats the only part off that car they could salvage.” Super modified drivers are just insane when you realize just how fast they accelerate, let alone how fast they get on the larger tracks.

Your an idiot These things were running before a pavement Mod even existed

@@dougsmith4999 uh, no they weren't. The original Strictly Stock (Cup Series) were technically modifieds and were called as such until the late '50's, and I never said a damn thing about Super-Modifieds coming after regular asphalt modifieds (even though they did). I just called it an upgrade. You're wrong (twice); you're the idiot.

@@lorddrac_dontaskmetodance actually to correct you, the modifieds were their own division and ran pre wwii souped up coupes because the strictly stocks were all cars from the current production year, and Bill France’s logic was “well i dont think Ford Motor Company would care too much if one of their 20 year old models won, however I think it’s raise an eyebrow if a current model won” which is because he was looking for a few good big sponsors and that was one of the ways he figured it might have worked out. Watch the S1apSh0es video on NASCAR Modifieds to pretty much hear what i just said

@Federal Bureau of Investigation Maximum Over Modified

@AARON FEVRIN ULTRA ULTAMATE MODIFIED

@Federal Bureau of Investigation Uber Modifieds

@@1320crusier Omega Modified. Nuff said.

This comment thread is fantastic 😂

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I thought it was from the earlier scorn trailers

It sure as hell ain't in the ContentID library

Yeah, seems kind of sus.

My goodness, its as if, a world is ending. Bruh.... Along with, my beautiful language....

Nashville TN Fairgrounds is like that too! VERY LOUD and the best hotdogs we know how to make! I wanna go to Oswego so badly! Real tight local racing!

Sharon Speedway in Hartville Ohio has this problem with their covered grandstands as well. Gets super loud at Outlaw events and things like that. I've been at dirt tracks since I was 3 weeks old, and even I think it's a bit too loud while sitting under the covered grand stand. Very nice facility tho, and they do offer ear protection at the track for cheap

hi carnation

Lame right

Oh man, there's a TON of foreign racing series that he could cover.

@@SonicBoone56 Obviously, but I don't think he has much exposure let alone knowledge of them. That said, I can see BTCC and DTM appeal to a guy like Slap simply because they've both got a rather interesting approach.

@@TripleAlfafa DTM is dead

@@christopherflynn4094 dtm is gt3 in 2021 and ev in 2023 far from dead imho

@@phillipkerfoot2389 yes but gt3 isn't touring cars. DTM stands for deutschland touring motors. DTM is dead.

I go to Oswego as well and I love hearing the cars from outside the residence halls!

lol is there any asphalt left to tht track the old owners ran all there tracks to sht looks like hudson is on the rebound wish owners wld realize you got to keep the track up and comfortable for both the racers and fans

@@wizard3z868 star speedway is doing great the owner died and his son took over and has made improvements and there’s about 20 cars a class

@@joshconnolly8854 last year they averaged 27 350 supers. Best weekly racing around by far. But I do miss seeing the big blocks weekly in the late 80s early 90s

@@wizard3z868 Star Speedway is doing great. Mr. Webber Jr. has put a lot into the track. New lights & a lot more. Car counts are up. There is a reason they say. The Place to Race !!

@@richardpalleschi4807 been like 10 yes maybe I'll make it a new years resolution to go thx

Saw an ISMA race one time where they dragged fogged from above and raced in hard to see conditions at Waterford Speedbowl

@@superjeb8777 they have done that multiple times. They will also create contrails in the right humidity. They are just awesome in so many ways.

Used to wrench on a Sprint at Sandusky Speedway. Hi-Miler weekend was a huge party. Miss them days

Ah yes...vortex theory. Not accurate, but I want to believe.

@@mitchell-wallisforce7859 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--kYaKb9845k.html Race started in clear conditions, the downforce pulled the fog down. 10 minutes later the hobby stocks raced in relatively clear conditions. It could be sheer coincidence, or it could be evidence, that's up the the person viewing it. I was there, I know what I believe. The flags thing is one hundred percent legitimate, it can be observed at the short track anytime these beasts run in big numbers. Small track, big wings, high speeds. A little different than NASCAR on a 1.5 mile track with little downforce, just an observation from a short track fan and a guy that absolutely loves these cars. If you haven't seen them, they are a must see for short track racing fans. Phenomenal doesn't even begin to describe a great super modified race.

I saw them years ago when they made a trip to Berlin Raceway in Marne, MI. I'm not a huge short track fan but I would highly recommend the super modifieds to any race fan. The speeds mean they're just nuts to watch. A car going that fast around such a relatively small track is mind-blowing.

i think it was the among us menu music

@@brycemetcalf4007 check the description, we're both right.

i honestly just came into the comments just to see if anyone was thinking the same thing lol

Where?

Where

That was Eddie Flemke Jr. He and Shampine were friends. Jim let him race the rear engined car. However Jim suffered an issue and fell out early. Flemke dominated all day, but had an oil line begin to leak. He fell a lap down ,but unlapped himself to finish 4th. Given about 10 more laps he was on his way to destroying everyone all over again lol.

Theres tons of photos out there and they race 10 times at least yearly.

@@mitchdrew9005 More than 10 times a year, They race all the time. I see them 3-4 times a year normally

These are common at new England tracks. Was lucky enough to see Jim Shampine race many times, Doug Heveron too, great drivers.

retro rockets will get you started. Read my post at the top

Its a blast. I spent many a weekend there as kid starting in the late 70s to well into the 90s and it was a blast. A lot of us Canadians headed across the border for the Classic, two attend and race. My uncle raced it all through the 60s and early 70s and those cars were crazy.

Tony Stewart was not even born during the Golden days of The Supers Get a life and stay on the porch

@@dougsmith4999 troll much. 😂

Never been to Oswego, but I have heard that it's one of the best short tracks in the country.

@@JohnSmith-mk5jt thompson conn used to be a great track as well but when i went back 15 yrs ago it wasnt worth the trip from NH

Sending Oswego love from Ohio,, near Sandusky..✌🏼

Gosek is one of my favorite drivers. As soon as they put the signs up in town I had to go find his!

Joe Slowsek!

I like Thompson more

@@loganduval3331 got to meet him not too long ago he’s quite the character to be around very funny and enjoyable person.

@@erguy6072 I got to hang out with him a few times as well and even got his signature

Same here. My dad and Jim Shampine were good friends. what was your dad's name? My dad was Bill Marsh, car #37

I was a 12 year old in Billerica Massachusetts hanging out in my neighbors garage watching them weld up frames and build bodies for these cars. On the weekend the two Cann Brothers would grab me and pile into their black 69 Chevy pickup with “Cann Brothers Roofing” painted on the side in red letters. We would drive to Oswego and Star speedway and others. I would get home we’ll past midnight trying to stay awake. I am in my 60’s now and remember these days well. Now I manage the airport fleet shop in Denver but that garage and those races were my early start and love of cars. Great video!

I'm not a huge short track fan and the super modifieds only make occasional excursions to where I live (Michigan) but to me it's always worth it to go watch them if you have to chance. The speeds they attain on such relatively short tracks are astonishing.

​@@BiggieTrismegistus I don't think they do it anymore, but the supermod/sprint car double header at Toledo was always a blast. Nothing but winged monsters from start to finish.

@@Pyro60000 That sounds awesome.

Small world. I live in Greenville and I'm trying to go to Oswego 😂

@@S1apShoes did you make it up here in 2021?

Oh and one addition to your otherwise perfect video… the Oswego Speedway started as a 3/8 mile horse track, then a 3/8 dirt track before going 5/8 mile paved.

thank you! I was immediately really concentrated :P

THE auto value super sprints ran there a few years ago . it got to the point it was too fast . they were carrying super speedway speeds into the corners .

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Eq7czGrinGc.html here you are. I believe Lichty and Timmy J have time trialed there. Otto Sitterly ran some hot laps at Homestead recently too.

Check out bristol time trials 2011. They 2 ISMA cars, a couple sprint cars and a motorcycle. The ISMA and Sprint car turned about 142 MPH.

Ah-men northeast has some of the best racing in the country

Two words. Watkins. Glen.

If you have a chance to see super modifieds, take it. I grew up an IndyCar fan and seeing super modifieds is the closest thing to IndyCar racing I've seen on a short track. They are _blazing_ fast.

They're unreal at Thompson, man. Going 180 into the turns on a short track is just insane. My best World Series memory was back in 1999 when Ted Christopher raced a super for the first time. He started scratch in a Paul Dunnigan car and won. He didn't jump into a super again until 2010 at Berlin. He started scratch and won the feature again, but driving for Clyde Booth. TC was just a legend like that.

@@brendenpavao2071 absolutely man Ted was one of the best drivers I have ever seen hop into a race car in my life

@@leclercracer3377 I've been meaning to come back and reply again for a few days. I'm grateful that I grew up in a New England racing family. I think I've seen Teddy win in just about everything. Supers, modifieds, SKs, pro stocks, Busch North, TQs in the Providence Civic Center, NEMA at Waterford. Those of us who got to see him race were seriously lucky. I still can't believe we lost him and Stefanik in such similar ways over a short span of time.

That's it. The freedom factory. Literally saw it and came to the comments lol.

@@coreypierson1519 same bro

It certainly is. The video was obviously taken before he took ownership of it.

lol finding a lot of 603 in these comments

@@wizard3z868 Lots of Great shows. Bentley Warren always showed up the the Star Classic

how about jim shampine!

Don't forget about "skid plate" racing where front wheel drive cars are usefd with flat plates welded to the the rims on the rear. Crazy.

Rototiller drag races. Sometimes literally on the drag part. Saw one of those events on the "On the Edge" show on Speed TV. One guy ran an unlimited class tiller while his wife competed in the stock class. She decided to try his tiller for a run. She was able to windmill her short legs fast enough to stay up about half the length of the track then lost her footing. She didn't let go! The tiller dragged her across the finish line. Fortunately the track was soft dirt so no injuries. Another couple of oddball racing events involve snowmobiles, but no snow. One bunch runs them on grass, the other on water. Snowmobiles on water started out years ago up in the Northeast somewhere. They'd cut a good sized rectangle through the ice on a frozen lake and I'd assume carved a ramp on both ends down below water level. Mechanical prep was removing lights and other non-essential parts. Hitting the right speed and maintaining balance to keep the skis on plane and the stock track's paddles pushing enough water to skim across a few feet of open water didn't happen too often so many waterlogged snowmobiles had to be recovered. Over the years people have come up with special skis and tracks and the engine power and speed (of machines intended for use on snow) has gone up a lot since someone first though about seeing if he could skim across a bit of water. Dunno about the water racers but the grass guys have gone the way so many fun racing has. Rules. A crapton of RULES. www.isrracing.org/tempPDF/Grass%20Drag%20Racing.pdf

That is exactly what those cars are but with a little bit of Indy Car stuff thrown in for safety/fun.

Exactly, sprint cars for asphalt.

@@souocara38able Actually there is a type of sprint car they run only on paved tracks, often racing on the same ones the few different regions of Modified series race. I forget but these are bigger then the cars that race on dirt and have a brake peddle. on some tracks they have not just a top spoiler but a hood one as well due to needing them to stay on some tracks.

@@caseysmith544 Silver crown cars?

@@souocara38able Probably something like that, the other was some kind of super Sprint cars that I saw racing on TV on paved surfaces a few years ago.

Hey, I live in Nevada

That's exactly right. I've done it in a simulator called Assetto Corsa. They have a winged supermodified and their version of one does around 190mph but you never have to lift. Not quite as fast as a modern IndyCar, but a hell of a lot quicker than a cup car around that place...

The exact 2 reasons why I'm trying to go there

Possibly the loudest motorsport venue which isn't a top fuel drag strip.

He choked. Plain and simple. He wasn't there when it mattered, and that cost him the Championship. That doesn't have anything to do with Nascar, that has to do with him

@beast I was replying to Sparity yeah

Jeff Gordon would have at least 2 more championships if it wasn't for the stupid playoffs. But the dumbass drug addict/drunk france jr. jr. in charge got mad because Matt Kenseth won a championship and only won one race. And prior to that other driver's had won the Championship weeks before the season was over.

Nah. Finished 2nd at Kansas then fucked up at Texas and Martinsville. Not to mention he didn't gain a ton of stage points throughout the playoffs.

Technically, the rulebook does now. Car has to have four wheels "in the usual locations." I believe Tim Richmond was the one with the balls to test that car.

They look weird as hell when not on the track. Once they get on the track they're so damn fast you no longer care.

LMAO 😂