What Happened to Every 1st Round Kicker? 

What happened to jay cutler

the 2014 season was crazy, especially since it was the first cfb playoff year. so many surprise teams. you could make a video about that year. ily

makes sense, because putting both in the title would make it way more cluttered

Great video KTO I always watch ur videos and been here since u had 100k

Love you KTO. Man I’ve been watching your vids since like 2018. You have helped me become way more knowledgeable in football than ever. I just wish you could post more often. Thank you dude 🙏. Your vids are awesome….

You’re god damn right it was

put the ball in the best players hands.... or this case legs

For some reason I thought it was Tom Cable, but yeah, it's still hilarious.

man screw lane kiffen. us vols hate him

Lol no wonder he couldn’t make it in the nfl

Yeah that’s true. The Raiders had him do these absurd FG try’s, like 65, 68, 67 yards. He had the leg to do so, but they always kept trying just to break the record. Just shows how much of a threat he was and how much they trusted him

Yeah, you're gonna put the really good guy out for harder kicks which'll put him at more risk of missing. If your kicker is mediocre you're gonna send him out less, and only on easier kicks which he'll make more often.

The Raiders got like 18 years from Janikowski. That alone is worth a 1st rounder

@@Daniel-dr2jb I know that, I loved Sebastian when he was in Oakland. I was pointing out the times when the Raiders made him do those kicks. But he was a BEAST, and hella durable

Alright so maybe like 1-4 of those a season at most. Really isn’t changing much

Are... not probably, they are the greatest.

Shane Lechler is a chill dude too. I met him when I was a senior in high school and still played football. My HS played against his Alma Mater for non-district games every year and he had received a lifetime achievement award or something and they had a ceremony for him. One of our coaches was his cousin and got him to come talk to us during pre-game

Unlike tge Vikings who seem to always have trouble with their kickers, the Raiders seem to always have good punters and kickers. They just had both their kicker AND punter make the pro bowl. From George Blanda to Daniel Carlson, the Raiders seem to always get it righy

@@joe-tatothepotatobiden47 al Davis loved points good kickers get you point

@@joe-tatothepotatobiden47 almost always, but the years before we got Lechler and Seabass were a dark time. Many games lost.

As a Chargers fan, I agree.

To have a player one can root for, who lifts up the spirit, is an icon for the team, the face (=> PR and marketing value via full stadiums, better TV ratings, stronger connection to the fan base and a higher merchandise sale), are values which are not captured by this statistic. Furthermore his number is not reflecting his true skills for he was far more often trying impossible kicks than the other, higher ranked kickers.

Y’all could have had Brady and you’re saying you were happy with a kicker instead 💀

@@wdaniel891 Every team besides the pats could’ve had Brady🤦🏽‍♂️ Not to mention would Brady be the same without NE

As a Vikings fan, I’m jealous. But he’d never have been good had he remained here with our staff.

The Raiders would have him try these long ass FGS (65, 64, 68, etc). He’d often had those rare misses too

@@enriquedeltoro227 and that dropped his average significantly. Look at his beyond 50 field goal percentage, and he was kicking about 55.24%. A lot of that drop off can be attributed to these 60+ yard kicks.

That was the beauty of having Seabass on your team. Literally, once you pass midfield, hes in range. Also, he was usually money on the dirt infield.

It’s funny with hindsight now because they took him in the first with Tom Brady not going til the 6th. Obviously can’t blame them for not getting Brady, just funny looking back

He had to kick off the grass in Oakland every year which probably hurt his percentages.

Also, expected kick percentage from a kicker in the early days was much lower than it is today.

Fun fact ray guy is from my city an he’s 1 on the only 4 people who made it to the nfl

And then they later lost to brady in the tuck rule lol

You gotta admit though, Shane Lechler was insane

@@Rowdy1407 They would've almost certainly won Super Bowls with Brady considering they were a "tuck rule" away from advancing to the AFC Championship Game in the 2001 playoffs and actually made the Super Bowl in the 2002 playoffs where their quarterback, Rich Gannon threw 5 interceptions.

Imagine the absurd amount of cheating Brady would’ve done had he gone to the raiders lol

@@bluelivesmurder5696 - The leap in logic that the Raiders team which couldn't beat the Patriots would have beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh and then the Rams is such a stretch.

Should have never happened missed delay of game the play before

it's so crazy how the lions somehow always find a way to lose. you guys are seriously cursed.

@@joelrichardson8674 I wish, but it was legal, the play clock was just messed up

@@antiestablishmentarianist we are used to it now

No way you guys got screwed

We don’t talk about Roberto.

@@PhilTip no no no

His brother sucks too. RIP the turntle

Surprisingly he has some defenders.

Best worst example

"And I'm the ̶p̶u̶n̶t̶e̶r̶ kicker, ̶t̶a̶x̶ ̶f̶r̶a̶u̶d̶ bribery and illegal possession of a controlled substance."

Al Davis needed him to commit more crimes and break more laws

@@GillAmbrose your opinion.

@@GillAmbrose you mad cus you post content an it only get 27 views within 3 weeks an his doesn’t? It’s okay I understand. BUD.

roasted the man so good he deleted his comments lol

@@spookyminion I’m just good like that. 😂

tbf they should have. The clock was already out of time

@@machoboys8884 I agree but you can't anything away from that kick by Justin Tucker. No other kicker besides Matt Prater would have pulled that off

@@MarloSoBalJr for sure, even prater would need perfect conditions tho. And those were far from perfect

Even as a Lions fan, I couldn't be mad after that incredible kick. Tucker will likely go down as the GOAT kicker after his career is done.

@@OmniMirror since my packers see you twice a year we know from experience that that kick was going in for 2 reasons 1. Your the lions for a reason 2. I knew the football gods would smite you right there when the billboard at the stadium literally read We're doing a drawing now for a truck since the Detroit lions won today That was on the announcement board BEFORE TUCKER attempted the 66 yd gw field goal

He was never the best kicker in the league he isn't a hall of famer. Vinateri and Justin tucker are the only future hall of fame kickers

@@YOSSARIAN313 He was more accurate inside of 40 than Vinatieri. Not to mention so many of his FG attempts were beyond 40 yards that his overall % would never have been as high as the other guys you mention.

@@heathclark318 yeah but Vinny kicked some of the clutchest FGs in history and Justin tucker is the greatest kicker who ever lived. The only two placekickers worthy of HoF consideration. Shane lechler and johnny hekker are the only two punters worthy. For an almost 10 year stretch lechler was the best punter ever. Johnny hekker is currently the second best ever behind him. Hekker playing in a good offense has tanked his numbers though compared to the Jeff fisher days

@@YOSSARIAN313 imo you can’t talk modern day hof-worthy punters without pat mcafee

@@ThePeaterBeater pat McAfee only played 7 years

He was also a very good athlete. I think he was also a defensive back.

In hindsight, I guarantee someone would've gladly used a first on Justin Tucker alone.

@@clevelandbci9562 Kinda crazy he went undrafted. He's arguably the best kicker in the league right now

The reason is you expect your offense to score you think the other team is gonna sit around for a whole week and say okay as long as we can score fgs we'll win nope it's 2 fgs for one td can't waste possessions like that

Kickers aren't drafted early because they aren't drafted early. Sounds stupid, but teams seem to have agreed not to draft these positions early, so it's unwise to spend a first or second round pick on a player that would likely still be available in later rounds. Drafting doesn't happen in a vacuum, and since there are more contested positions teams go for those instead. But in terms of value compared to draft position I agree, kickers are drafted way too late.

Knowing what we know of him now he would be for sure. Hell if you were to trade him you’re getting at least a 1st rounder

In hindsight he is worthy of being a first rounder.

If everyone knew how good he would be, then yes, definitely. If you asked a team like the Bears a few years ago if they would give a first if they knew they would be getting a high caliber kicker, they would pay it in a heartbeat to not lose in the playoffs because of a missed FG.

I’m not even joking he would have went in the first 10 picks

@nєgínα💌 Get kicked.

Which one?... No offense, tho 🤣

Yes.

*2nd

no

So many first round picks are literal busts that accomplish nothing in the leauge so personally if I knew I could have the greatest player ever at a position even of it's kicker I'd argue it's a no brainer

i feel like if he was he wouldnt of panned out as well. took much pressure for someone at that position to be drafted that high

Evan Mcpherson!

@@martinsodemann1781 I was thinking Tucker or Vinatieri, but that kids got a bright future for real.

@@bunker5696 well yeah, sounds more reasonable. I just freaking love McPherson. He makes kickers exiting.

Yeah he is number 10 in terms of attempts. I also recall him being thrown out there for tons of long kicks so his chances of missing were higher. I can see arguments both ways but i think he’s still worth a first

@@2RG_ He also spent most of his career with a Raiders team without a strong offense. They settled for a lot of field goal attempts.

He was more accurate inside of 40 than Vinatieri. His numbers are lower because he attempted more than half his field goals beyond 40 yards which is the NFL record by a country mile.

I don't know if ANY kicker is worth a first rounder but if people think a kicker is worth a first rounder than Janikowski belongs in the discussion, one of the best kickers in history imo him and Vinatieri were the only 2 kickers I paid any attention to growing up watching football, Vinatieri because he won so many playoff/super bowl games with his leg and because he played for my team the colts and Janikowski because no matter where he was kicking from you always felt as tho it had a good chance of going in and more often than not his kicks were coming from at least 40+ yards out, it was always entertaining to watch him try and kick it from distances that would be laughed at if anyone but him were kicking it and a good portion of the time they'd go in and you'd just shake your head knowing that the fact they even had him attempt it was ridiculous but damned if he didn't make just as many as he missed 😂

I'd swap FivePoints for Tom Grossi personally but yeah they are all stellar

Thats good sports is good too if you like something with more comedy to t

@@mozata6838 I’d swap grossi for flemlo

There is no 4 horseman anymore. There are too many good channels

Gotta remember all the games lost the previous season to missed kicks..... that is why we were excited foe him.

Because his accomplishments were dwarfed by contemporary Jan Stenerud.

He’s the reason the NFL is as big as it is today

Exactly, get to midfield, Seabass is in range for 3.

It was just a normal game for Detroit. #Lions Pride 😎✌️

Matt Gay was probably the best kicker in the league last year, 32/34 on field goals, 48/49 extra points.

The only Punter in the HOF. Ya I'd say that was one of Al Davis' most cleaver draft picks. He literally controled games with his foot.

Raider fans don't care, they in it for a good time.

idk what raider fans you talk to, but if you're a raiders fan you know who jano is lmao

Raider fans are everything Jets fans aren’t during the draft. Raiders cheer and go crazy no matter what. Jets fans boo everyone.

ew

As a 100% unbiased Texans fan, I have to disagree. Shane Lechler all the way

@@thetexanshurtme 0 rings

@@giovanniquiroz6931 who cares. Rings are a team stat

@@thetexanshurtme check the stats guy better in every way😂lechler also claims raiders not even the Texans sooo

This certainly aged well

I appreciate the support Adam

yes my son , i always reply

You are the best