Well it goes both ways right? We have teams that will deal you when they see fit. Its fine to be loyal to your team if the team is loyal to you and do what they can to help the team win.
This is the best statement. Owners just trade away their stars and fans are okay with it. But when players do it, it's not. That's how stupid a lot of fans think.
TBF, Steph is on a winning team with great culture and people living there are worshipping him. There is no way he would leave that team for a worse version of it
The steph arguement doesn’t work because he had no reason to leave. He literally won the championship multiple times and had 1 bad year where he wasn’t injured then was back to contending the next year
Contracts are shorter and the salary cap is higher. It's as simple as that. In Jordan's day there was a 25 million dollar team salary cap and players signed 8 year contracts. Today the cap is over five times that amount and most players sign four year deals with a player option for a fifth. Mark my words if the top players in the 90's were out of contract on almost a yearly basis and a handful of teams were able to offer them max money then player movement would be like it is today. But that wasn't the case. Back then it was one max contract per team. So stars who already had a max wouldn't leave because there just weren't any other teams offering the max because they had already spent their money. If it was like today where teams can offer up three max contracts then of course guys would leave team up.
Kawhi was also already on a contract, he was the other half of the Demar trade. Not only did Kawhi not take a paycut, he declined his player option and left the year he won a championship to go play with his friend instead of trying to repeat.
Bron made the blueprint for stars in their prime to band together for a better chance at a title because at the end of the day, it's the rings that count. How often people say that Charle Barkley, Patrick Ewing, Stockton and Malone, AI, Steve Nash and more superstars that didn't win a single chip be in the conversation of top all time players? None. If KD didn't join the warriors and never got a ring, will he be considered a top player all time?
You fail to note the opposite side of the spectrum where loyalty gets you burned. The most recent case of this is Isaiah Thomas during his tenure on the Celtics. I personally detest the idea of giving your best years to terrible teams and then claiming you stayed because of "loyalty" as a misguided badge of honor.
The problem I have with this video is ignoring players like Ben Simmons and when a team is built around you, you as a player deciding not to play gets you no sympathy when your dealing with fans who saw Allen Iverson play 37min a night as an all star
You can't necessarily say that because of all these external situations players chose to not be loyal, followed by saying something like it's not their fault. If the players chose - regardless of the circumstances that have been put in your way - to stay loyal, y'all treat them like Lillard, making them an afterthought
if you think about it, the older players like harden, westbrook, etc. are ring chasing. The younger players at least for now are loyal to their team. Think about giannis, jokic, tatum, booker. So i dont think loyalty is gone. We just have a couple of old dogs who are frustrated and want a good team around them
The 2015-2017 cavs were not a super team. Since when is 1 superstar, 1 all star, and 1 fringe all star a super team. By that logic MJ played on a super team.
@@StFigarlandGarling It doesn’t matter. He only has 4 rings in 20 years bruh. And in 2014-15, neither LeBron or non-casuals perceived Kevin Love to be a “fringe star.” He averaged 26 ppg, 12 rpg, & 4apg prior to that season. Kyrie was a far better player than D Wade at that stage of their careers. And remember Chris Bosh retired early (LeBron may have had foreknowledge about his situation). And when he left Cleveland, I believe he had foreknowledge that AD wanted to play for L.A. Young Kyrie had long since left Cleveland. So LeBron always lobbied for the best situation.
It’s more about what LeBron perceived to be a super team than what actually manifested. Because it exposes his weak mentality to win the easy way & not face them 2011 demons.
What happened is that the players realized their power. These office guys get billions just cuz they had the money to either start or buy a team. Like I ALWAYS say when people ask, are players getting paid too much. No they are the ones sweating, bleeding, getting injured, and gaining popularity. So now players know their worth. So I think Giannis is gonna be the last hope for loyalty.
How did Kawhi take less money to go to Toronto when he got traded? How did demar take less money to Chicago from Toronto when he was on the Spurs before going to the Bulls? Lol
Player loyalty is a blueprint to getting played. It's obvious that you have no knowledge of the days when the owners had total control. Research how the Boston Celtics won for so many years. Players had no say of who could play for and couldn't negotiate their pay. I'm glad they aren't loyal.
I don't even need to watch this. Players moving from team to team, even if it's just the one move, has been going on since I want to say the 60s or 70s. This isn't new. Even MJ played for 2 teams and now has owned a team and is currently the owner of the Hornets. Dirk, Kobe, Duncan are very rare breeds, Larry and Magic although damn shame why Magic had to retire. Again, this isn't new.
