What Happened To Terminator Genisys? 

They honestly should have went forward with Salvation timeline

Emilia Clarke was probably the worst choice they could have made. She was shoe-horned in because she's popular. Not because she fit the role. But since the movie tanked I guess it doesn't matter.

"But that's a different guy!" - is all i can think of every time i see anything Terminator related now.

The worst part of the film for me, which kills it to the core and all that is left here of the atmosphere of first parts - Jai Courtney, his casting for the role of Kyle Reese and what is left of the character in the film. Instead of a worn out by years of survival in nuclear ruins but experienced soldier which was devoted to his goal and able to adapt to the surrounding reality, in Genisys it’s a pumped-up hysteric who cannot keep himself in his hands in any stressful situation. In concept, switching him and Sara and making her a window to the world of the different future for him could work, but not with this performance, not with the tone of silly comedy and.. Not with this actor. However, I sincerely respect his casting agent, this person pulled out pretty juicy roles for him in 10’s

They really shot themselves in the foot by revealing John Connor to be a terminator in the movie's trailer. 💢

Make one with Miles Dyson's kid who paradoxically recreates Skynet out of his fear from Sara's home invasion from 2. Have him be a socially awkward but scientific genius who's a mirror of the Terminator who protects him. Disconnect it from The Connors and give Dyson a Stark smart but Sheldon awkward portrayal.

I really enjoyed this film. I'll take Genisys over Dark Fate any time. It's a shame that the idiots who created the trailer ruined John's turn.

I just cant get over that John Connor is a Terminator. I remember before the movie came out, I actually remember thinking, what would be the dumbest possible thing that could happen in a Terminator movie? And the answer I came up with, that John Connor would be a Terminator

Thankfully, Terminator Zero on Netflix gives a great explanation to all the different timelines and storylines of this franchise.

The level of name mispronunciations in this video makes me wish Skynet would come online now

What an amazing decade was the 80’s for movies. Hollywood should pay attention to why it ruled (originality) and stop recycling those ideas.

Happy 40th Anniversary Terminator And Terminator 2: Judgment Day Are Two All-Time Favorites.

I enjoyed the beginning of the movie where it served as a remake/mash up of the first two movies. Where Kyle Reese got to meet the badass Sarah Connor, the good T-800, and the T-1000. But then when they traveled to the 2010s the movie lost me.

i really wish they just end the stinking story, with Kyle Reese step into the time machine thingy and tie in with the first movie...

At least Genisys was slightly watchable than an absurd Dark Fate

Terminator Resistance is the true third story/prequel.

Honestly after Dark Fate I might have been too harsh on this Movie, it still is Bad but it has some good stuff like the T-800, T-1000, Kyle, and J.K Simmons, 3 out of 10.

They had Jai and Matt Smith and neither played John Connor. I question that decision.

It sucks. That’s what happened

Esteemed Director 'Rian Johnson', made me LOL fr fr.

I love "Terminator Genisys".

Salvation timeline was the only one worth exploring, this genisys was atrocious even though it looked great.

This film was really great in that it started the same as the original but then went in a completely different direction and covered a lot of realistic concepts. Skynet being IOT and how much society is hooked on tech for example.

The only thing I didn't like about this movie is that EVERY plot twist was spoiled for me by a trailer before I saw it. I absolutely believe I'd have had a lot more fun if I hadn't gone in knowing everyything. That experience is the reason why I nowadays refuse to watch trailers and go out of my way not to see them before I see the movie.

Everything after _'Judgement Day'_ was just the worst kind of dreck! I wanted to grab the writers & directors and demand to know, *"WTF were you thinking?!"*

I enjoyed Genisys. It was goofy fun and it took the franchise in some zany directions. I wouldn't have mind seeing where it all went. Or just where any of them could have went. The Terminator is in a perpetual state of death and rebirth and that's kinda meta.

Honestly, this is my 3rd favorite terminator movie.

"Esteemed director Rian Johnson........" LOL.

What happened to “what the f*c€ happened to”?! Now it’s just “what happened to”?

So…are we all just gonna ignore the denis villeneuve pronunciation?

Thank god for the anime. Too bad it´s Netflix ratings seem low at the moment.

I first saw 'The Terminator' on VHS back in '84. I've been a fan of the two movies ever since.

I owned a copy of Genisys a while back, solely because I do love Terminator (1 & 2 mostly). Not too long ago I was going through my disc collection to see if there were any titles I wanted to purge, and Genisys did not make the cut. I donated it to Goodwill. It’s just not worth the space or repeat viewings.

I personally had no issues with Genisys. Honestly, it was rather refreshing after several movies all basically doing the same thing, to have this one flip everything on its head.

Avarage movie but still way better then Dark Fate ...i do love the T-3000 idea It feels like a next big step after a Liquid T-1000

Alan Taylor knows how to shoot a film, the movie is gorgeous to look at! So was his Thor. He would be A-list if his movie scripts were as strong as his tv projects, because there he is killing it!

Amelia Clark and Jai Courtney. Then there was the shit writing.

This was a good installment of the franchise. I'll die on that hill

My official Terminator 3 is now the video game Terminator Resistance. The gameplay may have felt dated, but every other facet of that game, from story to setting to lore was made with the utmost love from the developers and it's the only thing since that's truly felt like a successor that fits the mold of T1 and T2. It even does the ONE thing everyone has wanted from something Terminator related that tries to end the franchise...it rounds it self out BACK to T1 in a very believable way that says our heroes could never beat time itself, but here was the journey they went on to get BACK to point A. The game just worked and it's the T3 we deserve and never got.

I'm a weirdo who doesn't mind any of the terminator sequels past 2, but that's also because I'm a Robocop fanboy and he's got it even worse than Terminator

Terminator, the film series to have 3 films labelled as the third in the series.

JC playing Reese hurt me so bad, he’s terrible but if BL played Sarah, I wouldn’t have even watched it once.

If they kept the twist a secret (in any Terminator movie since judgement day) and kept the real life gore/language from 1, this would have been a great movie in the series IMO.

Genisys actually had solid ideas that could have been the future of the franchise, it was just poorly executed.

Even though it was short, this installment had the best footage of the future war, next to the original anyway.

What i don't understand is why they didn't use remastered footage featuring Bill Paxton from the original Terminator movie for the scene with the 3 punks.

The best way to watch a trilogy in the muddled Terminator series is: 1) Salvation 2) Terminator 3) Judgement Day You (1) set the stakes and then (2) go for the bleak middle chapter and (3) finish with the high point in the series

The beginning scene for this movie still goes HARD and I pop in the blu ray from time to time just to watch it.

really tried to mix old school nostalgia with a fresh start.. but it ended up as a bit of a confusing mess. It’s like they were juggling too many timelines and ideas at once, and instead of crafting something new and exciting, they just ended up with a movie that feels all over the place. It’s a tough break for fans hoping for a worthy follow up to Terminator 2

I watched this some years back and thought it was reeeeally good so I was shocked to hear how much folks didn’t like it but I needa rewatch

The true sequels to T2 is a trilogy of novels called "T2: Infiltrator" and it's SO GOOD. Read those for a direct continuation of T2

I'm so glad you said T2 ... T1 was great too! 😊

Oracle as Cyberdyne Systems? Sounds right to me.

I have a soft spot for genisys. 😂

The creators of these movies need to forget about Arnold, period! There are so many great characters who's lives they could have explored I will say tho, Emilia Clarke is a perfect LOOKING young Sarah Connor

They dropped the ball hard on Genesis and Feminator:Faked fate. T1,T2& T Salvation is all there is for me

I liked Genisys, when you involve multiverses and time travel, you can just make up anything, and as long as you are creative enough to accept some bizarre alternate timeline, it's just fun.

Not gonna lie, I think Salvation was really fun and a great way to move forward and with the added bonus of not having to fuck around with timelines. Just give us a bleak post apocalyptic future and go with it, since the first two movies perfectly built up this exact expectation.

Right out of the gate, Genisys shot itself in the foot by revealing that John Connor had become a Terminator in the marketing. I don’t know if it would have saved the box office, but finding out that John Connor was now a villain would’ve been a massive reveal in the theater. My biggest issue with Genisys is the story though. It is so damn messy and confusing, and I get that it’s like that because they were planning on explaining everything in the sequels, but that was a bad idea imo, especially since it didn’t and won’t GET any sequels lol. They should’ve cut back on some of the unexplained/confusing bits, maybe saved them for a sequel or something, and focused on making a good standalone movie first and foremost, then if it got a sequel it could show that the T-5000 (Matt Smith) survived, instead of sequel-baiting everything so hard. I don’t think they even had an overall plan for the sequels, instead half-assing the story like Disney did with the Star Wars sequel trilogy. I still want to know who sent Pops back to protect Sarah. My guess is an alternate Sarah sent it back, but it’s all just so confusing with the original T-800, Pops, a new T-1000, a T-3000, a T-5000, and the future changing as Kyle is traveling to the past. Way too much shit to throw into a single movie and explain almost none of it besides “multiple timelines”. Even with Genisys having such a messy story, I greatly prefer it over Dark Fate. I lost respect for James Cameron over that movie…

I remember when they cast Nick Stahl as JC in T3 and thinking 'oh boy, what a mis-cast, they couldn't have got this more wrong' Well, here we are. Absolutely idiotic choice for Connor in this movie, the bloke just seems to smirk throughout his screen time! Good to see Hollywood is over the other side of their boner for Jai Courtney too, he sure knows how to sleepwalk into the destruction of franchises...

Salvation had its issues, but it was by far the best movie, second only to Dark Fate.

Ignoring that this movie literally skips over John being born because they quickly left the 1984 timeline and thus he was never conceived, I really wish that the story from Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles had been carried on. Before its cancelation (good old writers strike helped with a lot of shows dying that year) the show ended on a huge cliffhanger BUT it did answer the question on how John survives Judgement Day and brings up some interesting twists in the war against Skynet. Not every machine wants humans exterminated and there is a faction that broke away from Skynet and allied with the Resistance, working together to bring down Skynet. That alone would have been amazing to explore in more detail, but it will sadly never come to be.

Should have started out with the John Conner story then, leave off all the time travel and after they send Kyle into the past, and having Skynet 11 "assimilate" him, have the movie have him overcome skynets programing, and finally kill sky net one on one.

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This movie was very subpar and, yet, somehow its sequel managed to be much worse.

Justin Lin is a legendary director.

I actually enjoyed both Salvation and Genisys. I remember hearing lots of criticism about it when it came out, and also being annoyed by the trailers. But it turned out to be a a fun convoluted action movie for me. I still have to find the time to watch dark fate.

The Sarah Connor chronicles, is still the best thing that has ever been made since T2, including Zero. John got PTSD, killed a human, just like his mum, but it was well played. All the characters were amazingly played and cast. Darkest storyline. Main character getting head shot dead. Multiple Terminator vs human massacre's. To kill terminators they had to lay traps. It was just explained better and clearer. Zero, is so overrated, those kids were just detestable. The terminator should have murdered them both to force the third, Kenta to, *sigh* cliché activate the EMP bomb.

Awful casting choices. Over confidence in the story. Brand exhaustion. Salvation came the closest to a reasonable follow-up, for me. Just a very dry movie.

What a coincidence i'm literally watching ( re-watching this right now on Netflix ) and it pops up in my recommendations 😮😮

"John! We're winning!" "Flank them!" "Yeah! We got them by the balls!" "Oh no! A terminator has gone into the time displacement machine!!" "...Kyle, I need you to save the world. Not today, but back when I hadn't been born yet." "Wow." "Let's get Kyle in there! Go! Go! Go!" "Yeah! We did it. Now, the future is not set. It's up to Kyle." The End.

Every time they made a new terminator movie. I keep wishing that they stuck to that reboot. I've been a terminator fan for years, and aspects to each new movie that interests me. They always needed a second movie to flesh out the world. I'm hoping that Zero gets a season two.

I actually didn’t hate Genysis.. it was better than Dark Fate lol.

genisys could have worked, the idea of kyle reese going back to save sarah but everything turns out to be wrong is a cool idea. but the moment they went to 2015. the movei fell off a cliff. i enjoyed everything in the 80's

The Bluray cover spoils the movie, showing John Connor as a robot.

T2 could have been such a disaster but it wasn't. It was a masterpiece.

I'm cool with people hating Terminator Genesys. It meant that I found the 3D Blu-ray at Five Below! Cheap! Also, I'm with Amelia Clarke in relief that they weren't going to go further with the franchise (I didn't need Dark Fate) because I was happy with Genesys closing out the franchise. The only thing moving these franchises forward is greed. The studios have figured out that they can just keep making stuff off of old properties because golly, creative people demand money and have negotiating leverage. It's so much easier if they just slap another movie onto a franchise and expect more money.

My 10 Commandments for Sequels: 1. Thou shall not kill off a beloved character (see T3, Genisys, Dark Fate, Alien 3) 2. Thou shall not negate, erase or retcon previous beloved movies (Terminator Genisys erased the events of T1/T2 & pretend the other movies didn't happen. Also see, Alien 3 which kills off everyone who survived Aliens) 3. Thou shall not make a beloved good character into a bad guy (Genisys) 4. Thou shall not just try to replicate the formula of previous movies without innovation (Every Terminator movie after T2 just copied T2) 5. Thou shall not just keep bringing back an aging star when it starts making almost no sense (Ripley in Alien Ressurection, every Terminator movie after T2) 6. Thou shall not kill off or replace a savior for humanity because your writer isn't good enough to figure how to write them correctly. (Terminator Salvation early script, Genisys and Dark Fate). 7. Thou shall not cast guys who have the personality of a doorknob (Terminator Salvation:Sam Worthington, Genisys:Jai Courtney) 8. Thou shall not cheap out on a director, getting one less experienced and good (every Terminator movie not directed by James Cameron) 9. Thou shall not rely on fan service and nostalgia (Genisys, Independence Day: Resurgence. 10. Thou shall not make a sequel unless it's better than the previous movies!

My problem with this movie is that it tried to do too much. As you said, 7 timelines! I liked the idea of the polluted timeline in 1984. But then we just zip through that and onto a retread of T3 and T:SCC, and a less satisfying version of either of them.

I never realized there were 7 different timelines. It was such a mess of a movie

I actually liked the film but it should have been rated R like the first film but its not the best movie of course but genysis is waaaaay better than t3, salvation, and dark fate. seeing arnold turn into an upgraded terminator to the t 1000 was something i actually wanted to see as a kid but then the movie flopped and the story couldn't continue to see him use the t 1000 powers its a shame. I do however agree that the video game terminator resistance is the official 3rd installment of the series and also now terminator zero being now canon.

I enjoyed this movie in the theatre, but never felt like I needed to ever watch it again. Let's be honest, the only true sequel to T2 was the fantastic Sarah Connor Chronicles, which deserved a lot more than two seasons.

There are only two movies in the Terminator franchise.

I was so fucked up by this movie that I almost left the cinema after 30 minutes.

was my first terminator, dug it a good deal ngl

There’s some interesting aspects to the film- the ‘84 scenes shows Cameron’s original concept of a shapeshifting Terminator in the mix and I think how they catered for an older Arnie worked well. But it’s hard to get past the casting of Emilia Clarke and Jai Courtney, and some terrible fan service…how many times do we need to see a terminator walk out of fire?! Dark Fate though has elevated Genisys a touch because despite the rehashed bits, I still give it credit for attempting a different angle instead of a by the numbers rip off.

I quite enjoyed Genisys for what it was. Skynet being a global OS launch and everyone being excited for it was a neat idea, and it was fun seeing memorable scenes from the first 2 films (rated 18 and 15 respectively here in the UK) recreated surprisingly authentically in a film that was rated 12, thanks to some cunning editing and framing. imho, the whole franchise is a bit "timey wimey" anyway, so why not run with that?

You answered it right in your opening "what might be the greatest action film of all time".. Terminator and T2 are horror movies at heart and trying to compete with them as action movies is wrong.. unless you're gonna give us the future war James Cameron showed us.. Salvation got a lot right from that approach, Anton Yelchin as Kyle was top.. I'm not sure if he passed before genisys or not but if not that's a major fuck up in their part not keeping him.. and thats before getting into the John Connor twist.. meanwhile matt smith as the embodiment of skynet could of been awesome

I kinda have a soft spot for this film. I know people hate it, but it Arnold and I'm a sucker for his comedy. Don't judge me

When will we get a Full Movie set in the Future War? Endless night, ruined cities, chrome machines, purple lasers, lets fukn go!!

Genisys was actually a nice movie, and it brought something interesting to continue the story

I loved this video 😄 it took me back to those early mobile phone game days haha It was like a chapter erased from memory 🧠

Audiences didn't like turning John Conner into a villain. I guess the next best thing we can do is kill him off in the first minutes of the next sequel.

Image living in a world where they stopped after T2.

I don't think I've ever actually disliked any of the Terminator films, my least favourite is Dark Fate (like many others, I hate the way they killed JC) but even that is watchable.

Still waiting for a Terminator movie in a wild west setting

Terminator Zero is amazing! It’s my favorite since Terminator 2!!!

The series is 40 years old, and it feels like it. The last live-action film Dark Fate failed because it did everything wrong by attempting to go super Woke. You don't kill off legacy characters. Their decision to do that was a smack in the face to everyone who watched up until that point. Other than seeing the OG Sarah Connor, none of the supporting cast was likeable. I actually wanted the Rev-9 to win. Also, if you're reading my rant, feel free to correct me when I say that I could have sworn either in the SC Chronicles or someplace I saw that if the Terminator fulfills its mission, then it goes dormant, but in Dark Fate it opens a business and plays daddy while sending Sarah Connor coordinates to eliminate other terminators. My other issue I had with this movie is why wouldn't it go after Sarah Connor since the previous ones were all programmed to eliminate anyone with her or John's name. Just a cruddy way to get him over to the other side. More on this in a minute. Now they did a cartoon series in Japanese and in it, Kokoro, the Japanese version of Skynet is more powerful because it has "free-will" to make decisions to not only repel Skynet's attacks but it's version of Terminators took apart the Skynet one pretty easily. I would have liked it better if the Terminator that iced John in Dark Fate was helping them inadvertently because the Rev-9 was from Legion, a different system like Kokoro, and the Terminator was trying to ensure Skynet would continue which meant eliminating the threat of Legion. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, so it aligned with Connor and the girls for that reason. The rest of it could play out the same way but killing Connor's son and feeling bad even though it is not a sentient being was a terrible plotline.

I saw this in theaters while waiting on my car in the shop, I was the only one watching lol

😮‍💨 people don't really remember that copying the exact same story and tiny details just means rewatching the movie.. please stop hating.