Yeah, Bishop technically survived the Xenomorph’s attack in Aliens, because Ripley booted “him” back up in Alien 3, in which “he” asked Ripley to permanently take him offline after their conversation had ended. But, I still consider Mr. Henriksen to be a part of that Terminator/Alien/Predator group, otherwise Bill Paxton would have to be excluded as well. We never actually see Bill Paxton’s character get killed by the Terminator, only thrown against a gate. As far as I’m concerned, they both deserve to be on the T/A/P list.
This one is pretty fun. I love the flashback scene of the temple being overrun by Xenos. I always really appreciated how unique the setting actually was for this one.
Aside from the rating, I thought this was a decent Alien versus Predator movie. You actually get to see the creatures fight each other, and the location looks pretty good.
Actually I don't have a hate for this movie that many people do. And I like the scene when the Predator's spinning the Xenomorph around smacking its head up against the wall.
That's why i wish we got more of Celtic. Something about a Predator absolutely bashing someone threw a wall or piece of structure is just something I never thought I wanted so badly. Not to mention that he was advertised like the same amount as Scar in the trailers yet he was killed way earlier to BS (That inner jaw shouldn't have been able to pierce through high grade metal). Its the treatment of the main Predators and the time setting that set this movie back for me but I love watching the BTS of this movie.
Thats because most predator fans love the movie they ate up all that fan service eye candy and now want it canon just because it makes predator awesome. AVP games follows this guidance as well the predator is the most powerful in those games as well. Only problem was you predator die hards weren't counting on a bigger xenomorph fan base to rip AVP concepts a new arsehole especially after its second film (Requiem). I am one of those fans that said how dare you attempt retconning xenomorph just to be your deity's punching bags and fodder for their silly hunts. Majority agree with me the alien and predator are best in their own universe. You predo fans want to pit your monster against something sci-fi have your predator target those pasty white body builders aka "Engineers" from Prometheus. Seriously knock your socks off I don't mind a bit those chumps getting their asses handed back to them they deserve an ass kicking not just any ass kicking I'm talking they deserve to be humiliated and put to extinction make it canon so Ridley Scott can't fuck over the franchise anymore using those fuqqing squidward cos play uniforms.
I laughed so hard when Deadmeat covered this and when the female lead and the Predator both turned to run back to fight the Aliens, he said "initiate slightly romantic interspecies buddy-cop sequence"
I thought the idea of a Predator teaming up with a human was cool, it shows that they know when they're in over their heads and when they need help, they ask in their way.
AVP uncut is an awesome film, Though I loved the theatrical cut, it's the Director's cut where it really shines as the fantastic monster melt that it is. As for "Critics" no real film fans cares 1 single bit what a "Critic" says.
I agree that it was a cheap cop out to make the movie PG-13 since all the other Alien and Predator films had a solid R rating. But nonetheless, I felt that AVP was and still is a decent and fun popcorn action/horror movie. Sure it’s no masterpiece like Alien, Aliens or the first Predator film, but it was still entertaining to see the two titan monsters fight on the big screen.
I remember watching the special features on the DVD, and they said they were surprised when it got a PG13 rating, and that they didn't make any changes in order to get that rating. Could be BS, though.
I remember being in the first grade and telling my teacher “my favorite movie is coming out tomorrow” and it was about this movie. Hadn’t even seen it and I knew I loved it
I find it interesting the fact that by switching constantly shots from the original alien and this one, shows how well The first one has aged, since over 40 years later still has that timeless look thanks to the excellent cinematography and stunning visuals from Ridley Scott, and by comparison the later feels so dated due to the CGI and it's blonde cinematography!
I'd go as far as to say the original Alien movie has not dated at all. The biggest problem is that when you recommend a film made in 1979, most of the younger generation switch off and call you ''grandad''. I roll my eyes and hope a facehugger gets them 🙂
The team up at the end where they manage to communicate without having a common language is just so cool. 👍 Also I didn't realize "The Predator" had Lex's spear - that is literally the only cool thing about that movie.😂
I liked both Aliens vs Predator movies. Yes, there could be a little more gore in there, but they were still good. I also miss a new game. The last time was 12 years ago. There are so few games on the market where you can be allowed to kill people as a monster.
This movie is so so much better then the critics say. I have always thought it was such a fun movie. It's got a bunch of aliens and a couple predators throwing hands. It delivers on the premise, and I'm glad other people appreciate. Have always been a lone defender of this movie. Don't really like any of paul w.s. anderson's other movies, but this one he definitely nailed in my opinion.
I agree Rando. They took the comic and ripped it apart then glued it together with a gq magazine. The books, comics and games before the movies all had better story and more heart put into them. The movie was just a cheap imitation. Even the cancelled 90s movie had a better plot and characters. Still made an ok but mediocre movie due to the strengths of the original franchises.
I haven’t seen Requiem because it’s so dark and I have trouble with those kinda movies, but I have SO much love for the original AvP, it’s a nice contained plot and it’s honestly one of my comfort movies.
There’s a lot of negativity towards Paul W.S. Anderson as a director, but you can’t deny that the man can work hard and effective. He shot a lot of his works in a pretty tight schedule (and sometimes on a pretty average budget as well), and those pictures (mostly) look gorgeous. Guess that’s one of the reasons James Cameron admires the man.
I love the original films and was absolutely addicted to the OG "AVP" game on PC; but even though this movie was decent, I didn't expect the aliens to be so sturdy and strong. Like, I always thought they were super fragile and sort of weak, but overcame enemies through massive numbers, speed, and exploitation of their environment.
AvP 1999 had the aliens chasing you even after losing an arm and a leg and maybe their tails and tongue if you were a good shot. They were faster than they were tough for sure though
This movie was okay, but I would've liked the movie to be set in the future with the Colonial Marines patrolling out in space and they receive a distress call from a planet and go down to investigate and encounter the Aliens and then a Predator ship arrives as well and there is an all out battle between all three forces. That way, you have the really cool weapons like the pulse rifles and flamethrowers and such.
I actually a spec script for AVP prior to the film film--way back in 2000. In my script the Alien Queen that Ripley ejects from her ship at the end of the second film (Aliens) drifts, frozen through space until she is picked up by a Harvester ship, and--thinking to autopsy her, find her revived and gone from their lab. The Queen is hunted by those onboard, but manages to remain concealed--recovering--until the ship lands on the home world of the Harvesters. Once on the planet, and almost recovered from the damage inflicted upon her by Ripley, the Queen begins to lay eggs. The eggs are quickly discovered by the Harvesters--whose exo-skeleton protect them from infection begin a breeding program, and prepare to use the Aliens as warriors for their invasion of the closest planet to their own--Earth.
@@JoBloHorrorOriginals thanks for an answer. I genuinely thought that the debate between stranger things vs. monster squad became so passionately heated that the comments just HAD to be deleted for everyone’s safety.
@@JoBloHorrorOriginals i have question, when you mentioned that james Cameron rankied AvP in third place, which of the first two films he had as his favourite?
I'd love to see a review on the 1979 environmental horror film "PROPHECY"; directed by John Frankenheimer (Rein-deer Games), written by David Seltzer (THE OMEN '76) who also wrote the film novelization and starring Talia Shire (ROCKY I-V), Robert Foxworth (OMEN II: Damian), Richard Dysart (THE THING '82), Armand Assante (Judge Dredd '95), and Kevin Peter Hall (PREDATOR 1 -2) & Tom McLoughlin (writer & director of Jason Lives) as Katahdin.
I don't really give a damn what anyone else says, I have enjoyed all of these movies. They are all very entertaining. You need much plot plausibility when you have top notch effects and action.
While not the masterpiece that is Alien, Aliens, Predator, or Predator 2, this movie holds up. It just came out 10 years too late because action films at the time were ramping down the gore and violence.
Not gonna lie Arnold in AVP would have been so revolutionary, the only human known to survive an encounter with a pred and kill it called back to battle to fight another one plus a swarm of Xenos, talk about the money they would have made.
I wonder why it was decided for this to be a pg 13 film as Paul W.S. would have made a really kick ass hard R action movie. The audience for these franchises are horror and monster viewers
I remember a lot of laughter in the movie theater. Especially when she joins up with the predator 🤦♂️ can't blame Anderson he is what he is. The studio fluffed this up.
AVP has been my favorite franchise of all time since i was 5 years old playing AVP 1999 on PC and every time i think of AVP now and how theyve been treated in film and the thoughts of what could have and should have been and even the shelved complete AVP animated tv show that has been in limbo since disney acquired 20th century fox brings me depressed feelings. :(
Dude I love that movie, own it as well. I have never really got why it seems to not get the love. It isn’t much off imo from any other movie aside from Predator 2, but of course the Alien movies were awesome…. This was a FUN movie. It is what it is
Watched again the other day. One plot hole that bugs me is the skeletons in the pyramid. These are the bodies of the aztec looking people( who went willingly. But its established that 100 years before the crew got there the walers disappeared i.e were used for that hunts xeno. So where were their bodies ?
I really like this movie. I liked Lex as a lead, I liked the unconventional team-up, and the Alien/Yautja fights were GREAT! I also like the story between Lex and Weyland. It was brief, but it gave some sympathy to Weyland and understanding of Lex. And the special effects hold up today way better than they have any business holding up, considering. The only thing I don't like is the rating and the limitations thereof. I'm not surprised Cameron rates it.
AVP was NOT from a comic. The comic came from the novel "Aliens Vs. Predator," which was a GREAT read. Why does everyone think that Dark Horse created this shared universe? Too bad they didn't stick with the book's world because if they did, then AVP: Requiem would not exist and maybe, the story would have followed the story of "Aliens: Labyrinth" and "AVP: War."
This one is a true guilty pleasure. As a fan of both franchises who had read a fair share of the comic books (Aliens, Predator, and Aliens Vs Predator) it was a disappointment: no gore, no scary scenes, the Predators looking like football players, and, above all, WHY ON EARTH WAS IT SET ON EARTH? The AVP comics were essentially set in the Alien universe but had the Predators in it - and it's not like the Earth setting saved them some money on locations, since they had to build everything in an abandoned sugar factory in Prague. If they had the money to build the pyramid, they definitely had the money for a terraforming outpost like in "Aliens" (which was partially shot in an abandoned power plant outside of London). That said, you can tell that it was a labor of love for Paul WS Anderson: I am not a fan of his, but every shot in AVP does show that he cared - it is possibly his best-looking effort when you really take the time to analyze it.
I actually wish they'd make a 3rd AVP movie where it either takes place on the Predator home world or on a military planet where aliens and engineers are.
I actually had an idea for Alien VS Predator film in 2001 and Victoria Rowell, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Lance Henriksen & Bill Paxton were all going to be in it. All the fans...including Lance Henriksen, Michael Biehn, Bill Duke, Alicia Marie, Matt Winston and Janet Goldstein liked the idea very much and liked many elements and parts about it as well too. The movie we ended up getting by Paul WS Anderson (being a co-writer as well) got many things wrong about the Alien & Predator characters which is what many were upset about. In the sequel Greg & Colin Strause did a much better job sticking to the characters in the sequel...even though many people still found things to bitch/ complain about.
Yeah the inconsistencies killed this one for me, mostly the Yautja acting like oblivious morons as well as their facial effects looking ABYSMAL. I too preferred the sequel, for all of its flaws at least the predator wasn't a complete Doofus.
One of the best movies ever made. My third favorite predator film after the first and second films. When this movie came out. I saw it and it stuck with me like tar. Then as the years wore on I saw it again and thought wtf was I thinking?! This movie is fuckingfantastic. Now watch it over and over. This team should definitely be in charge of doing further predator movies. Prey was an outstanding dud bomb. Lazy facade. People complained about The predator, the one with the assassin predator, which I thought was fantastic.🎄👍🎄❄️
It is inaccurate to say that no video game was based on the "AvP" film, as the aesthetics invented in the film were often reused. Elements like the armors, the weapons and even the pyramid settings, have always appeared in the two creatures' video games since after 2004.
I really like both AVP movies and the game but i grew up watching these films in the late 90s and 2000s so I like a lot of films fan bases hate things like the Star Wars prequels, the NYC godzilla movie, Jurassic Park 3, Predators, Die Hard 4, the Josh Brolin James Bond films, the Friday the 13th reboot, Rob zombie's Halloween movies, etc. etc. only going back and watching the originals because of these films and thus becoming a fan of these franchises so they all hold special place in my heart even requiem
I really feel like they could still do alot with this series if they focus more on the story & history & interactions between the 3 species rather than just a showdown Add some new 4th alien species that the humans and preditors have to team up against or something
They fucked up by setting AVP on earth even the 2018 predator It would've been really cool if they set up these movies on some human or predator colony in future They can still do reboot it and make the new movie on some strange planet
5:21 so to be fair they aren’t an unknown race (I forget if it’s mother or father in the first Alien film) put Ash on the team with the idea of getting hold of one of the Xenomorph’s so someone knew something back at WY HQ it’s also the reason a colony is set up there, the higher ups know something about the Xenomorph (not enough to be scared or smart) they are just making sure that anyone else that knows is dealt with quietly off the books, maybe it’s easy and they can be payed off or made to look like a loon that’s jumping at shadows but if they get too much attention we’ll then they have an accident.
Can you guys do the theatrical Anaconda films. With the second movie....I don't know why but I always see it as a film companion to this movie for some reason.
I actually created a story for a new AVP movie that's set in the far future, but there's no humans at all. I call it; AVP: Survival. It follows a group of Yautja that have captured some Bad Blood and are ready to take them back to Prime through the space rift, till they escape and take over the ship. Heading for an unknown planet, nearly everyone dies in the crash apart from the Yautja leader, that discovers the planet is infested with Xenomorph. Why would the Bad Bloods lead the ship to this dead planet? My story is around the internet if you search for it.
I want to see a 2 1/2 hour crossover movie with Predator fighting against or working with other characters like Batman, Robotcop or Rambo like they did it on Spider Man: No way Home.
The Capcom game from the 90s was kick ass....the jaguar game wasn't half bad either. Movie wise...they're decent...but why would you make the first outing PG13?!
I had an idea years ago before the movies started.... Have a movie that has no dialogue, it would be pure music, like fantasia. This way you can create tension with music, then if needed you could have a Human as a marine for any dialogue.
