What Happens if you wore Darth Nihilus Mask… 

Ok Fire. I roll too find the mask and recover it before it’s destroyed. And with, perhaps a Sith Apprentice BWILA that is linked to the mask. *Rolls a 17* Did I find these things?

Dude sick

@@erikurizita6702 Might needa roll a lil higher if you plan on phase shifting through lava homie

@@carsonnesbit1178 this is Merlin we're talking about. you should really travel time more

Lord of the Rings moment. Those two PCs would not be forgotten.

No wonder I had no idea what he said. Can you translate, please?

No, it's the Anciet Sith language or the language of the Force. From the Era of Marka Ragnos. The REAL Sith language.

I also thought is was the actual language of the force....

@@hosshydraa1181 wasnt his voice supposed to be made up of all the people he devoured too?

@@fullmeddljacket8486 , which would explain why he sounds like Ermac choking on pop corn after one of Cage's terrible movies.

That’s why it is called “Nihilism” when there is no hope for the future

We are nihilist lebowski we believe in nothing. / throws a marmot into your bathtub while you are in it

Oh! So they used to speak Latin in the space?

@@wvw_one no. But english is based off latin and the creators of darth nihilus are american and speak english.

NIHIL.

Bullet club 4 life!

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Just when you think star wars can't get anymore nerdy

i thought that design looked familiar. TOO SWEET!

Nice only saw him in WWE so it's cool to here he was in New Japan

Good description

More like some thing moved into the shadow and puppets it.

He used the force to extend his life but his body was still decaying so he separated his body from his spirit....so he's essentially the force itself wearing robes and a mask

No

Nihlius wasn't a sith, the sith lord died died on Malachor. Nihlius literally ate himself. All that remains is the void in the force, embodied by the armor that he tried to bind some semblance of his presence to. He is literally a semi conscious force black hole draped in armor.

@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket unfortunately theres no one called raven but im assuming you mean revan, true enough though the emperor of that time is def stronger than nihilus

He meant terrifying as in intimidating not powerful

@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket By terms of power, yes. In terms of intimidation though, not so much.

Basically. How crazy is that, that it imbues people with the force.

@@DarkLOREDash Love all your videos, dude. I can tell you are a hard-core fan of Legends lore not this Disney crap.

Ahh. Imagine a bounty Hunter or a Mandalorian wields that… The power that they wield is unfathomable.

@@GamingLovesJohn It's mostly for Force-sensitives though.

@@louisiananlord17 well disney said that kotor is no longer legends but indeed canonical so...

Its a shame they rushed it and didn't consider afew things during its development.

@@varenshan7731 Yeah, and the sad part is its mostly not even Obsidian's fault. The higher ups at Lucas Arts supposedly changed the already tight deadline mid-development and rushed them even harder just for the sake of a Christmas release. Still, maybe the Obsidian team did get a little over-ambitious, which isn't a bad thing given what they were trying to make, but they just tried to do too much with too little time, thus why so much ended up on the chopping block.

Yeah it'd be cool if they could actually finish the game for an upcoming KOTOR 3 Legendary Collection. A collection actually WORTHY of being called Legendary, unlike the Mass Effect one that didn't even include all the DLC. Basically, remake the first two games in UE5, finish the 2nd game properly, and make a 3rd game, and release them all for like $120. Hell, I'd pay $150 if EA didn't get a cut.

How would that work in an RPG? The mini-games didn’t have a whole lot of depth so it wouldn’t be too exciting.

@@dreadrath Honestly I think it's more likely the latter, obsidian have a history of having absolutely awful scope management, basically all of their games outside pillars of eternity have stupid amounts of cut content, or are super unpolished. I can't imagine it's legal to just change a contract midway, and from what I've heard it was mostly on obsidian that the deadline was what it was. Still talented devs of course, sawyer is one of the best at what he does imo and avellone with a good editor is a solid writer, but they just are really bad at that actually finishing games side of things.

Cool theory but no, it's explained that the more force energy he consumed the more it began to deteriorate his physical form and turn him into an energy spirit, he bound what remained of his essence to the mask and robes he wears to give him a physical form. Think ringwraiths from LoTR, underneath the mask and robes there's a spirit man you can stab with the right weapons. So in a way, after he bound his essence to his mask and robes, you would be correct. But dark side spirit possession isn't out of any powerful Sith spirits forte. Exar kun, is the only notable example I can think of rn.

It made sense that kreia was the final boss. She was the betrayer. Often people dont find out who betrayed them untill the very end. I do agree on him being underdeveloped. Perhaps some sort of imprisonment story would have been better for his character since he's a void and actually not even a real person anymore. Cutting off his source of force would kill him eventually, but the way it went in the game made little sense as to break his will. It must take incredible amounts of willpower to want to exist without a body. In my mind his spirit form was evidence enough that a battle of wills cant kill him. Hence why perhaps it feels bad to alot of diehard fans of kotor. The game is a legend tho and imagine if we got a finished product. Its already one of my favorite nostalgia games in terms of story. Havent seen any game beat its interactive plot discovery's from the character influence stuff. It felt like there was always something new to discover.

Except you're also a Wound in the Force, and that's why you could beat him. If anyone could wear it and NOT be consumed, it would probably be you in KOTOR 2. Also, tbh, maybe Revan who didn't really "fall." but by that logic, Dooku, too. And I'm not convinced Dooku could resist. And maybe Emperor Vitiate or whatever? Since he also consumed planets. I don't even think like Exar Kun or Naga Sadow or anyone could. I think it's basically Revan's apprentice and maybe the Emperor, and MAYBE if we REEEALLY stretch it, Revan. Theoretically, Dooku could resist longer than most, again just because of the Revan logic. They both CHOSE the Dark Side to accomplish their goals but never seemed to even remotely succumb to it. Of course, we don't actually know that Revan never had Sith eyes.. but c'mon. If Dooku can resist, Revan can.

It should had been after he is defeated, someone close to you pulls on the Mask to help fight against Kreia but that person then becomes Nihilus and with this stronger body, he is now stronger than ever. Which then leads to you either allying with Kreia or tossing her aside as she becomes Nihilus's first victim in his new form (minus the person he just took control over). It should be that there are three allies that you will have that will become force sensitive and one of those three will betray you no matter what. Normally, it will be Brianna or Mical, but if you have a strong relationship with this character, you could see it be Atton Rand or Mira. So really, it is one of four, but in game, it is one of three because you cannot have Brianna and Mical in your party. It is jealousy that leads to the other becoming the betrayer and this is something Kreia should point out early in the game and continuously hint at as you pick up more party members. If you are a female character, you will pick up Mical instead of Brianna. If you pursue nothing, Mical will betray you and become the new Nihilus, albeit the intention was to save you from Kreia. So they (this case, he) see it as justified as they are sacrifising themselves for you. If you befriend or romance Mical more than or at all over Atton Rand, then Atton Rand will replace Mical as the betrayer. If you befriend or romance Atton Rand, then Mical will again be the betrayer. If you are male, then it is between Brianna and Mira. Choose wisely as the form Nihilus takes will be different depending on how you develop your ally. If not at all, then his attributes will be randomly designated based on that same character but still an improvement (being more difficult) compared to fighting him earlier. It should also be possible to ally with Sion as well besides getting him to end himself. But then it will be harder to get Kreia unless you choose to be a grey jedi. Be pure dark sided and the two will end each other. Be pure light sided, and you must choose who lives. Become neither and it is possible to have both, albeit Sion will die after the fight as part of a cinematic (since he sacrifices himself to give you that final blow) and Kreia will be left for you to decide regardless of which path you take so long as she is in your party when you fight Nihilus. You can take her out (Dark Side), forgive her and convince her to return to the light (Light Side), or let her be in which you have another set of options. You can work together to teach people the dark side, destroy the temple and return to the Jedi path together, or leave it as it is and learn more about the galaxy together. The last option should be the canon of the series. You did convince Sion and Kreia to work with you as a new triumvirate against a common foe (Nihilus). You defeat him at the cost of Sion. You forgave Kreia and left the temple as it is to travel the galaxy together in which you both succumb to the Emperor at some point as part of the backstory to SWTOR online.

He literally uses life & force steal on a planetary level. Is in fact a void, a black hole in the force. No corporeal form.

Palatine could summon force storms millennia away. Nihilus could that and then some more and then some more and then some more

The simplicity is part of what makes him intimidating. It's almost as if doesn't care about clothes except for something to hide his hideous features and that's about the most human aspect of him.

Imagine complaining about him being overpowered when most force users are able to do planetary level feats. Anakin literally guided a ship out of hyperspace twice

True! Except vitiate was more whole. Nihilus sucked up planets but lost himself in the process

@@DarkLOREDash if only he was like Sion who could only die when he wanted to. Maybe then he wouldn’t have needed planets.

@@DarkLOREDash In essence, Vitiate was a Void in the Force, Nihilus was a wound in the Force.

@@revanreborn1219 but then that begs the question , why did the void on Nathema try to consume him when the outlander landed there ? Would have thought that since he was the one that birthed it , it wouldn't have affected him at all.

@@varenshan7731 probably found a way to counteract it. New body made it to where it was immune to the effects until reaching the sanatorium. He had a thousand years to think about that.

Byss? You mean Ziost?

@@juankovacs6033 Yep, whoops, been a good bit.

What Tenebre did to Ziost wasnt exactly the pinnacle of what he had done to Nathema, but he was able to his hunger at bay. Nihilus's version of Tenebre's ability comes close but wasnt able to figure out how to keep it at bay in time.

Nihlius couldn't control it and he died. The video explains that he actually ate himself, consumed by the tear in the force caused by the deaths of the armadas. He tried to store some of his consciousness in his armor just to continue to exist, much like Exar Kun, but he was still unable to do much more than keep the void from devouring all the sith around him...eventually he couldn't even do that. Tenebrae created a death field using the force on purpose, and used it as a weapon. It wasn't a tear in the force, but his own power, enhanced by the Sith infighting. He CAUSED the tear in the force and fed from it, rather than it consuming him. Tenebrae is far more sinister, because his power is HIS POWER, and not him trying to open and shut a gate to a black hole. In a way he was still consumed by his own ambition, but that was his doing. He also might be an actual psychopath but that's another topic entirely.

Revan: "Yeah, so I'm gonna go ahead and veto that idea..."

Fantastic questions. I honestly do not think its explicitly stated. Like Sion & even Kreia, his past is mired by obscurity

I think the mask _IS_ Nihilus. Anyone who wears it, Jedi, Sith, or regular person has their life force drained and they become a husk for Nihilus to have a physical form. As long as the creature wearing the mask is destroyed, Nihilus isn’t a threat, but whoever defeats him better make damn sure they can A) resist the dark side urge to put it on themselves and B) put it somewhere no other living being can find it.

I too thought about that & wished they did it. Same for Revan

Thanks Christian! Love the last name

Thanks! It has Scottish origins

@@christiankilgore7201 that's rad. I was wondering... my depraved brain just saw Kill + Gore 😅

Lol 😂 it’s totally fine

Its surprising but not for OGs

Me aswell , as a Jedi.

to be fair a lot of people buy games and barley play them, let alone get that far.

@@thekingofcookies4877 Oh right. People probably mistook it for something like The Old Republic, and then were hit with disappointment at the completely different gameplay. Shame they missed out on a great story despite the amount of cut content.

@@Cellmate or they just bought it and haven’t bothered to install it because lets be honest the gameplay and graphics don’t look great by today’s standards.

Thanks mate!

No lol wtf are you even going on about. There's no such thing as a "death mask" you just made that shit up or seriously misunderstood what was being said

@@BKK871 Theyre asking if the Death mask idea would apply to a mask worn by Darth Vader, meaning that his grandson was influence by Dark Side echoes while around it. You know, in the made up world of starwars, would it be cool if one made up thing was like anywhere made up thing?

Heya Ox! I hope I have KOTOR 1 pretty much fully covered by the time it comes out. But if not, I will. Especially if it falls short... people will want/need that nostalgia. But here's hoping it meets fans expectations #Maythefourthbewithyou

@@DarkLOREDash Thank you SO much for the reply! Keep up the fantastic work sir!

@@Oxfeen my pleasure 🙌

Yeah, KOTOR II was so much easier than KOTOR I. Malak was actually scary in-game.

I must have played the game very wrong then because both Nihilus and Scion were challenging boss fights to me.

@@BKK871 It's been over 17 years since I played the game so I couldn't tell you exactly what I used, but I remember using stun locking with stasis? and force choke along with the life drain. Scion was more challenging as you had to kill him more than once and convince him to give up I almost ran out of power if I remember right. After that fight I made sure I stacked my attacks in a rolling way that Nihilus never made one attack. Scion at least got close to me.

Then you missed the point of everything. You, the Exile, turned away from the Force. You didn't need it. Sion and Nihilus were literally dependent on the Force. Nihilus had nothing over you, perhaps had even less than you, because you too were a wound in the force. There was nothing there to feed off of. And Sion? He was using the force to keep himself put together. He used it to stay alive. He would have been immortal. However, you, the Exile, were a living lesson he had to face. Sometimes letting go is the better path.

@@Aqueox damn that's actually pretty insightful

Thank you, sir!

I wouldn't say Scion was weaker than Nihlus no one could kill Scion not even Nihlus.

sion.

A unstoppable force meets a immovable object

Truth. They could have done something similar with Revans mask/mantle too

You just gave EA a whole DLC story inspiration lol. But seriously, they couldn't do that bc those are premium cosmetic items you can only acquire with real money (and let's be honest, no normal player have millions of credits to buy them in the GTM).

@@juankovacs6033 true, but i can dream right, LOL, who knows maybe it will happen.

@@DarkLOREDash I would like to see something that, if I was to write a story like that for both sides.

@@juankovacs6033 nah, you can get the mask nowadays without irl money, quite cheap as well

exactly

I kinda was like.... hmmm HMMMMM whatever he's the writer.

Ever think there is a reason that there's an original version with a nose and a newer one without one?

Right. Except he may poop it out whole in accordance to Sith Magic

It'd take someone with a connection to the Light Side of the Force so deep, or a level of peace with what they lack so pure, that any hunger or desire for power would be lost on them. In short, it'd take demigod-like willpower.

Sounds just like covid masks.😆

Definitely Sauron vibes when Kreia said even mentioning his name may draw him

@@DarkLOREDash i thought nihilus was based off sauron

@@thephoenix4093 It does seem that way.

Like a new Nihilus that discovered the mask?

Id give anything to see The audio books Red Harvest & Death troopers made into R rated Star Wars horror

@@DarkLOREDash oh HELL yes! Dude the EU has made so much good creepy stories

Thanks & no. Is a fan film Nihilus: Fall of Katarr

Enclave extended mod!

Death Machine... Almost literally.

I agree, in my mind Nihilus is the apex of the dark side of the force, its very embodiment, sure Palpatine could create force storms on distant planets, but Nihilus could consume all life from orbit, imho that's several orders of magnitude more impressive

Yes it's one of the cinematic trailers for SWTOR

My money's on Vitiate.

Thanks mate!

Thank you!

Many thanks!

Might as well. Or just put something into my blood system to make me so mad I'm sion.

Thank you so much!

Damn, I was slow on that one. 🤢

Nihilus is what happens if you give the warp the Tyrranid's endless hunger.

@@Amadeo790 HE WHO HUNGERS!

@@JeanLucCaptain lol Darth Nihilus wold be like a chaos prince of lord that ascended as perhaps chaos undivided and as he grew stronger, his power would be so great that he couldn’t keep a physical form. As I understand it, he is like a lich or a Nazgûl and as his power grows wile his humanity lessens, so those his hunger until he can no longer see individuals but clusters of life. We humans are like ants to step on wile his gaze is fixed in the morsel that would be a planet, specially one filled with force sensitives (or in this case, psykers).

You cannot have a pariah with psychic powers! You simply cannot! Its heresy! The codex force power does not support this action!

Funnily enough, I have a tragedy of series coming up where I'll open with that