Sunday evening, time to get the tea out😊 I really like these background videos with info about the commissions, how the entire Soviet apparatus worked (or rather, didn't work) etc. You so very rarely hear these stories being told. Having read a lot, I'm still completely gobsmacked by some things. Like Mayorets saying that while standing there, with bits of Reactor No. 4 scattered about the station, they will have Unit 4 back up and running shortly to then reconnect it to the main grid. I'm like; "Dude, you're standing ankle-deep in RBMK parts. Which part of 'this reactor will never be able to run again' is in any way unclear to you?!?" Talking about refusing to believe what your eyes are seeing...🤦 Thanks for another nicely done part of the Chernobyl story. Now go and get yourself better first. We cannot have you nose dripping all over the Interwebs^^
Thanks! I don't know if Mayorets even get closer to the Unit 4 than being in Pripyat (didn't find it anywhere). Nonetheless this shows how some people were rather concerned about the Party plans, not really interested in what actually happened. That's one of the things Moscow did every single day - they could schedule e.g. 1000 tonnes of iron being mined at a particular mine even though it was closing. Decidents in Moscow didn't know what was happening outside their region and probably Mayorets didn't even read the first (biased) report from Bruykhanov carefully. Haha, yeah, gotta get some babushka's shots made from spicy vodka, chicken broth and garlic 😂
@@Chernobylite That was more in a manner of speaking^^, and Pripyat would be close enough at that point. Radioactive particles do not discern between ordinary people and Soviet Politburo members. It will cling to all. I do remember reading about one of the Politbureau members arriving at the station, fuming and demanding that the reactor be repaired and back up and running before the end of the year. An accompanying scientist called out in utter despair that this was simply impossible because they were standing next to graphite that used to be inside the core of Unit 4. Will have to go and check which one that was again. You tell babushka that she whips up a good strong draft to combat the nasty germs. They will not stand a chance against that😁
I usually think of Chernobyl in April, but it was always been a kind of spooky story. In North America, we celebrate Halloween in October. Chernobyl is a pretty scary monster, and it's still there. It sleeps, but it won't breath fire again. If the radioactive material were to get out, it would be very bad.
People can visit the Elephant's Foot for an extended time nowadays, and each year it gets safer. I don't think there is enough high level radioactivity left to threaten anyone beyond the local area. Worse case is if the containment collapses and the dust goes into the air, but it certainly wouldn't be on the scale of Fukushima
Wait, the Elephant's Foot? You mean almost the centre of the Unit 4 which today is under first AND second sarcophagus? I'm sorry, but this cannot be - no one is allowed to enter the sarcophagus, except for a few people maybe who can be there for a very limited time.
@@Chernobylite well it's much better after almost 40 years. No tourists of course, but scientists have been removing pieces of it for study because it's starting to disintegrate into dust
Well done, knowing political background is very important for understanding their response, causes of the accident, design of the plant, psychology related to such events and many other things. I think we got enough information and directions to do our own research. Thank you.
Thanks! That's exactly my point - I'll try to explain everything best I can, but I want to leave you with a knowlegde to also research yourselves (if you want to) :D
@@Chernobylite I love learning things in your show. There’ll be something new I never knew before. I know all kinds of things about how the all the different types of reactor work. I started learning about nuclear accidents around the time of Fukushima. I was still a tiny tot when Chernobyl actually happened. But your really helping I take what you say and then I look up some to fill in the little bits. Or ask you if I think of it while watching.
My undergrad degree is in nuclear medicine and we spent a year having a class on Chernobyl, our professors were married and one worked in the ussr before it collapsed as a nuclear engineer. I could never comprehend how massive this was despite seeing photos in textbooks, i thought the HBO series did an incredible artful job of showing emotion of all the people who cleaned up and i watched it first just to enjoy it, again to see more closely the physics and then again because i absolutely love the art of film and i found this was done very well and the mini series did a great job showing how each person was seeing the event unfold
Oh yes, that's right! But HBO's Chernobyl is more of a TV drama than a documentary, so there's a lot of small misconceptions or changes. Not that it makes the show less excellent, but it had to focus on the narrative more than accurate Soviet experience :-) Check out these videos if you want to know more about it: ru-vid.com/group/PLvLmuX4fgBCftvzcMYIbpBGzYiTyPZ4Gn
I feel very close to all those effected by Chernobyl because at the time my father was dying of industrial cancer. Having studied a lot of material on the subject in the past few years there are a couple of gaps in the story that I feel need addressing. The fire: The destruction of the reactor itself dominates the story of the disaster, but the timeline of the fire fighting efforts remain fragmented. I feel it would be useful to remove the reactor from the story, because the first responders did not know or understand the nature of the reactor explosion, or the dangers they faced. What is not clear is the progress of the fire after the explosion, in relation to the two shifts of fire fighters sent onto the roof. Also who remained inside the complex, and what efforts were made to put out the fire from within. There are a few mentions here and there about reactor crew fighting the fire. The whole thing gets a bit confusing because there is no 3d map of the reactor 4 building showing where the fire developed and where the fire fighters went. In my opinion they should never have been sent to the fire. I do respect the courage of the first responders, and the soviet reverence for their sacrifice. These highly trained and resourceful emergency workers would have been better employed in helping with the evacuation. In retrospect, there was nothing that could be done about the reactor from the ground. According to one offical report, a female security guard stationed at reactor 4 died from exposure to radiation from a very specific fragment of carbon. Love to know why she stayed at her post despite the fire, unlike all the other people working in reactor 4. A female health professional working at Pripyat hospital mentioned that a lot of pregnant women miscarried before the evacuation of the city. Who were they, and how many women? Those babies should be included among the direct fatalities of the disaster. how many airforce pilots were involved in smothering the reactor fire? The number I have heard is around 200.
Thanks! As for the pilots, I'd need to look into it, don’t remember seeing any confirmed data. As for the other things - this is a part of longer miniseries. Previous one was about the RBMK design and this miniseries is going to be longer too :-)
I got some strange flu allso,so i was in bed last night :( , now i will see doctor,just as precoution. Very good videi and info,stay safe and become health as fast as it is possible,as some would say,,,,you got fly..."not great,not terrible"-greeting prijatelju-friend
Thank you! Try pepper + vodka shot once a day, my grandpa used it always when he run out of his herbs liquor (which was around 15 different herbs and 95% alcohol) :D
Kind of both - we made a game after some years in the Zone. First there was Chernobyl VR tour, then the game, but our designers have thought about something like it for a longer time :-) As the development proceed, we just learnt more things. Speaking for myself, I read a lot about it before and just read more after joining The Farm :D
@@Chernobylitejust found your videos... They are amazing to watch and very informative. I have been sucked in by the stalker games long ago. I've heard of chernobilyte some time ago but now I am going to give it a try. 😊
Happy to hear that ^^ It's definitely different than STALKER - basically the setting is somewhat similar (Ex Zone), but nonetheless we hope the feeling of the place is right :-)
If I may say so, pride, ignorance, stupidity, and self-preservation go a long way. "Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? There is more hope of a fool than of him." Now, what do you think really caused the Chernobyl power station to blow up and irradiate the entire northern hemisphere?
I think the reason was what you wrote - among other things like nuclear race against the USA which demanded faster achievements rather than "stable" ones
What you have told is not true totaly. May be design flaw But even that it was total operation fault. And rule in operation is those who operate is totally at its fault. That operator operate shift incharge followed and plant head killed. But if you observe, operator exactly know what is the ramp rate and responce time to come power in MW generator generate. Based on that he shoul have operated. He withdrew most of the rod is totally killing. It is not like some one who told to fire gun is totally responsible. But actual guilty is the person who have tried gun. Ok designer may have removed facts. But operator based on frequent operation know how system response based on his actions. If he will pull all rod heshould know what will about to come?
Sorry, but I honestly can't understand what you're writing about - is this an auto-translation? If yes, you can use DeepL to translate it better (works fine for me) :-)
