What if Fallout 4 was.. Brutal ? 

(Day 4) I want to add an interesting bit of context here. I posted the Corvega Gang segment on TikTok, without the previous context from the video., and ironically there are many comments stating that it wouldn't make sense for the Protagonist to side with the raiders. These comments unknowingly proved the point that Fallout 4's player backstory is far too restricting. I just found it interesting that even the idea of "being your own character" would stir controversy simply because the player is not supposed to be that type of person. Whereas in no other fallout title would this be a valid take, since the backstory is broad enough for us to be who we want to be. Food for thought.. and speaking of food. [will work for food] ko-fi.com/bickley

>Walk into town >Turn nearest kid into plasma goop in front of it’s parents >Go home >Boot up Fallout 1

FO4 was my first Fallout game so when I finally got around to New Vegas & stumbled upon my first crucified body, I knew I was playing a whole different type of experience

The most disappointing thing about Nuka World is that if you decide to go all out as a raider boss, the game lets you attack Sanctuary but doesn't let you fully wipe out the settlers because of that god-damn plot armor built into Harvey and all his sidekicks, forcing them to glitch into non-stop loop of fighting raiders and being downed. Even finishing the story prior to that doesn't get rid of the immortality. Can't even be the bad guy in this damn world.

Does anyone remember the mission in fallout new Vegas where you need to rescue a guys kidnapped son? You eventually find him in the basement of the Luxe in the freezer. You can choose to untie him which would save him or you can let Mortimer know what’s going on, go down and kill the guy’s son and then the kitchen will cook him into a chili. You then proceed to feed the chili to the guys father where he proceeds to try to kill you after you tell him what he was eating? Now this is dark.

Your video is about to blow up bro, brace yourself.

Does anyone rememeber being able to type dialoug into Fallout 2? I rememeber thinking, man, in 20 years, we'll be able to talk to NPCS like real people. Flash forward 20 years... FOUR DIALOUG CHOICES

Yeah, when I played Fallout 4 for the first time it felt like I entered a candyland rather than grim world of F3/F:NV alike

Fallout 1 intro scene where the guy was shot by the person in power armor while still twitching after the first shot scarred me as a kid but did set the tone for a good fallout experience.

The brutality of the world is my biggest complaint. It’s not nearly as dark and gritty as it should be. There should be a feeling of dread that makes the sprinkling of humor stand out that much more.

I would like to add something :The Factions don’t feel alive Siding with the minutemen: Can’t take back Quincy Siding with the Railroad: Can’t take back the Switchbord or build a new HQ Siding with the brotherhood of steel: Can’t expand your territory, no new brotherhood outposts Siding with the Institute: Can’t take over Goodneighbor or actively replace people

Once entering concord you hear gunshots, a raider meets you and harshly tells you to get lost or else he’ll shoot. Asking what happened he tells what limited information he knows on the raiders assault on the minutemen remnants. Offering help he sends you in fully expecting you to die so he can kill two birds with one stone. Later surprising him with your survival and capture of mama Murphy, he gives you a cut of the loot and tells you to meet up with him and the other raiders at corvega for a report to the boss. When meeting with Jerad you must be careful with how you speak with him and if successful are allowed to officially join the gang. Doing so your first job is to go with some raiders to a nearby settlement to intimidate the settlers into submission, given the chance to see the evils of the raiders you willingly continue to plunder the settlers of their land and belongings and return to a satisfied Jerad. You are always welcome in their territory and can always go on further campaigns of looting settlements. However, this is not your place to settle down, you must find greener pastures, or pastures to burn…

I only played it with mods and it was brutal and fun. Disabling bullet sponges alone makes a big difference

Man this was a rollercoaster Intrigue -> documentary -> movie -> epic mod -> existential crisis -> and now I'm a member Great vid dude

Humour, happy endings and hope are like a candle in a dark room. The light moments make the dark ones more impactful. Fallout 4 and on is a torch. The darkness is there, but only in the corners and hidden places

just realising now that the child at 1:54 is just a resized adult which is really really funny

That new scenario in Vault 111 you described is awesome bro. You didn’t mention how essential characters also forces you down certain paths, when in New Vegas for example, any adult was fair game if you decided their time was up.

Biggest criticism to me with Bethesda is how "Pixar" they've been getting

Personally I would have made the minutemen a group of weirdo's who worship the founding fathers of America as gods which seems kind of funny but then I'd have a scene where you show up to one of their sermons and witness them burning people alive at the stake for "Communism". That is the sort of dark humor that Fallout used to have that is missing from Bethesda entries.

I've played a LOT of fallout 4. to this day I've never actually completed the story because I honestly found it boring. There's no harsh consequences to most things you do, and at the end of the day It's way more enjoyable to explore than to get involved with bethesda's very lackluster npcs.

Honestly, Bethesda CAN make Fallout Dark as Hell, and they'll do a good damn job too, they just don't want to

Totally agree ! I wish Bethesda could take notes on every Alternate Starts mods out there. Just starting the game with the character you want. Like being able to start on a random planet in Starfield would have been great.

That overhaul mod would be 150 gigabytes big. But seriously F04 does seem like a monorail ride with predetermined stations and destinations, even if with the mods out there to make the trip at least entertaining.

It’s way to damn colourful and the NPC’s seem to be oblivious to the struggle of life in the wasteland. I also hate that goddamn cat picture house. It’s so stupid.

Not to seem like anymore of a FNV fanboy, but they also provide the perfect start like you said: you are a courier, who survived a shot to the head. You don’t even have to pursue the perpetrator, nor is it actually the main plot of the game, but rather a small grievance But to top it all off, the 1 intelligence speech checks in HELIOS One confirmed to me that the game is truly one of a kind, they didn’t have to give you so many alternate encounters, they just did. You can actually roleplay as a mentally challenged protagonist. Also another note: in terms of brutality and evil, one of the biggest ways this is delivered is the Omertas questline. There’s a guy you have to speak to who is completely chill and actually more friendly than almost everyone in the casino. But if you check behind a bookcase, you will find a snuff tape in addition to a room with the body behind a very hard lock. If you confront him, he won’t even negotiate but just attack, something like “ah well, what a shame” is his reaction. Other examples include: - Boones wife - Rauls sister (and family) - Bitter Springs - Vault 11 and the wife who was blackmailed, tricked, who then killed her blackmailers - The Fiends - Vault 3 - Legion slaves - Legate Lanius blinding his slaves so they don’t see his face - Legate Lanius sacrificing slaves to Mars - Legion attack on Nelson - Dead Moneys backstory I would LOVE to see you make a video on the brutal nature of FNV! The fact that there’s so much cut content is scary… they already delivered something which set too high a standard for the future, imagine these guys with unlimited resources 😅

That feel when a 11 minute youtube video has a better premise than a multimillion dollar company's game.

i’ve watched and read MANY fan fallout theories that put a spin on the main story of 4. your spin of everyone being canabils and nate being the true “sole survivor” with no memory quite literally made me sad and envious that it wasn’t real. being able to side with corvega too! genius! i never realized how much we really did miss out on in fallout 4. this video is gunna blow up for sure!

I like the idea of fallout being more of a RPG. But at the end of the day, money talks and bullshit walks.

This is how the story should have been

Thing is that the points youre criticizing arent only present in the fallout fallout franchise. They are present in the whole gaming industry. Like a desease everything gets streamlined to appeal to everyone especially younger people and kids. Its not about making a great game and then making money with it. Its first and foremost about making money. The making a game part comes after and greatness isnt even wanted anymore, because they dont have to, because we will buy it anyway.

I know exactly what you mean. That's exactly what I've been trying to explain to people for years. Fallout became mainstream with part 4, before that only people who really liked games like that played Fallout. But since Bethesda knew that if they appealed to the mainstream they would make more money, the direction was "adjusted". Take the Dunwich building from part 3, or my personal first moment when I enter the Super Duper Mart and it looks like SAW inside. The moral decisions like the atomic bomb in Megaton or helping the ghouls or not. New Vegas had other awesome moments. The atmosphere of Fallout back then was just completely different. I didn't even come close to having a similar moment in Fallout 4. It was all sacrificed for the mainstream audience...

People use to complain that fallout 3 was too grey and brown, but it made the world feel more realistic and brutal

Yeah i dont want there to be a new fallout it would never live up to what was in the older games

Excellent video for real. I have always thought fallout 4 felt different and you hit the nail on the head. It feels like a shallow puddle compared to all the other installments. I think you may be right about Bethesda gearing more towards a general audience, a more kid friendly environment. Even the "brutal" aspects of fallout 4 feel tampered with , like it has a PG filter over it. Strange. Great video PS. I'm joining your memberships, I have always enjoyed your content ever since you had 500 subs. Keep it up!

The option to join the Corvega gang instead of the minutemen (integrating the features from Nuka World) would've been perfect

I grew up with Fallout New Vegas and... man, there is absolutely no way that game could ever be made today, and I'm sad about that.

8:17 I REMEMBER WATCHING THAT SHORT

One thing I never understood about the beginning of the game is the logic of the concord situation in the writer's minds, especially if you play as Nora. Think about it, you're a lawyer, fresh from white picket fence urban USA, zero combat experience and weapons training... your kid is missing... boom you're in the wasteland, here's a 10mm... good luck. Now you tell me: why in the hell would you start joining in a fight between dirty leather clad hobos and some 18th century larping twit on a balcony? Hell na. Even as Nate it wouldn't make sense to join In. Nate doesn't know who they are, and as a soldier you know to pick your fights. Not this one! In all my playthroughs I avoid concord like the plague and only come back when my char has more experience and someone tells me they're there. (I absolutely love fo4 btw. The predetermined character and scenario actually works well for me)

8:00 Interestingly, the Minutemen have the potential to be a good fit for a brutalist Fallout waste. A faction that was committed to noble goals, only to collapse because of the greed of a few crucial members. The handful of remaining believers in the cause retreat, being picked off slowly by the Commonwealth's inherent danger, until the last few make a stand in a symbol of old-world "freedom". Their leader doesn't even truly want to win, because he feels he's failed as a protector and shouldn't be allowed to live - he just wants to go out in defiance of the inherent violence of the wastes. But because this is Bethesda writing we're talking about, all of that gets buried under ANOTHER SETTLEMENT NEEDS YOUR HELP.

Yep, Bethesda's drawn out unskippable "tutorials" suck. Especially so after several replays. And all that "moral" stuff in the storytelling is also irritating. It's like dev's are saying "you are supposed to play OUR way, or you are evil". It did not start with F4 though. F3 was the same. The games feel shallow, fake. Theme parks made to entertain. And "tutorial" thing is also old, the one in TES:Oblivion was similarly dull. Crawling through sewers for half an hour for the 20th goddamn time is not exactly exciting. I really miss simpler approach, like in Morrowing or New Vegas (which is vastly better then vanilla F3 imo). "Oh, you woke up, good, let's allocate your stats.... aaand we are done... go, do some crime.... or don't"

And that’s why the Courier is the closest to the Interplay classics we’ve ever been when it comes to Bethesda Fallouts. A blank slate who we don’t minor the mindset of besides delivering packages reliably.

Incredible video. You’ve earned a sub and this vid is rightfully blowing up, shoutout RU-vid for putting it on my recommended I remember when I first played New Vegas I was kinda caught off guard. Essentially, the fiends were just fascinating to me; the only other game I’ve seen explore that kind of evil is Red Dead Redemption 2, with the Murfree Brood and Skinner Brothers. Just a warning, I may accidentally spoil some quests for FNV: There is a quest where there is a refugee camp for the NCR, and one of the guards asks you to look into the disappearance of a family, and points out the little girl with a teddy bear that stood out to him. When you delve deeper, you find the teddy bear, but also find out one of the depraved traffickers keeps it with him and is called “sick” for doing so, insinuating bad intentions, and the family + kids were sold to a pyromaniac rapist who cooks people alive. I even kept a save just so I could experiment killing the traffickers in the most painful ways possible… I didn’t even know a game could make it so satisfying to deliver retribution. Edit: RU-vid was glitching so I refreshed to continue lol It also explores the consequences of the rapist, in which he assaulted a female NCR sniper who is lesbian, and she continuously makes crude remarks and sexual comments towards others, with her commanding officer convinced it’s a consequence of the assault; this is a real phenomenon , in which trauma causes hypersexuality. Something that stuck with me was the high speech check in which your character, while trying to convince her to seek treatment, says “it’s just another wound that requires treatment”. That’s a really incredible piece of writing, and it offers perspective on mental trauma; she wanted to brush it aside as no big deal, but similarly to being shot, you should seek help to work through the trauma In addition to the story of Boone, and the idea of mercy killing, and Vault 11 being an UNMARKED QUEST while being one of the best quests in the game … it just floored me. It makes so much sense that the writers were on the original fallout games (obsidian). The sad thing is that I feel like they don’t even do anything substantial. They just provide the bare minimum; multiple evils that aren’t cartoonishly evil, but instead actually evil. I genuinely don’t think an antagonist exists in Fallout 4; even Kellogg was somewhat humane and reasonable.

I think FO4 doesn't feel like a true Fallout game for a different reason. In 2D Fallouts, you explored the post-war world, with focus on the stories and how people deal with the post-war world. You'd spend like 70% of time in settlements/cities surrounded by friendly NPCs, 20% in vaults or other pre-war bunkers/installations (and quite often they can be friendly too) and maybe 10% on the wastelands (usually during random encounters). In FO4 (and FO3 too), you mostly explore pre-war world, buildings that somehow weren't destroyed by nuclear bombs and are now used by mutants or raiders as camps, animals nests or overridden with ghouls, and 99% of times those building only exist to have a boss or trinket to find for a usually-radiant quest. I'd guess you spend 80% of times either in those pre-war now-enemy-camps or on the road to those places, while maybe 20% in proper NPC settlements. And wouldn't be surprised if those 20% is higher than actual number (especially when you won't count those "maybe-4-NPCs live/are here" locations as proper settlements...). And New Vegas, kinda merges them both - while it have more pre-war places to explore, they are often filled with non-combatant NPCs so you can learn more about post-war world, not just fight some raiders and read some pre-war stories. And I'd say interacting with those people, being nice or non-nice to them, is what Fallout is all about.

5 seconds of Fallout2 intro is more brutal than entire FO4 (I mean that moment when people/family from vault meet Enclave soldiers)

Fallout 2 was an absolute masterpiece. In some ways, I wish it had been the final Fallout game because nothing else has come close to recreating the feeling I got from it. I think that translating it from isometric to first-person played a role. And the fact that Bethesda apparently didn't have the balls to include nut shots...

It’s in a sad state that the fallout IP having been squandered by Bethesda…. They made it into a kids game (and Tv show) for sure only hope is that obsidian gets another chance to create another masterpiece

Your evaluation is spot on. As a former diehard fan of the franchise, I wondered why Fallout 4 just had no bite in comparison, and you’ve revealed the core differentiator. Any faction you side with has some underlying narrative of “we’re the real good guys” but none of them are just blatantly evil. Seeing the effects of real evil in the old games actually forced me to think about it and I would argue made me a better person than being shoved into a foregone conclusion.

Simple formula for a perfect Fallout: Just add, - No locked story beginnings, instead have your character start from a ‘day in the life of’ {your created character} eg: farmer, courier, enclave. - main story is a power struggle caused by a sudden unexpected event, as you rise from a nobody you defeat all the people trying to rise to power. - animate all interactions, this will add a deeper level of immersion and add to how constructive a overall play session feels, you feel every moment and aren’t consumed by loading screens. - double down on base building, community building, character interactions and their reasons for personality traits.

This video made me not like fallout 4 so I am sad

I think this is a perfect summary of why New Vegas appealed to so many of us. It was a good blend of the 3rd person with the "choose your own adventure" glaze we all know and love. And you could do some absolutely twisted shit in that game, and still see the ending. Was the canon "ending" a bit of a 2 way split? Yes. But it's only to give a historical pretext of the outcome of a major conflict in that region at the time. Would I have liked to have seen things like you being able to negotiate with Caesar as the leader of the Powder Gangers, for example? Yes. That would have been awesome. But at the same time, it's nothing the mod community couldn't do. I'm happy with the product that I got right out of the box, and like all Bethesda games...the mod community only made it better.

I always wanted to turn Nate into supermutant and bring Master's glory to the Commonwealth or be turned into a ghoul.

to me with including the institute they more dropped the ball on what could have been an interesting truly evil endgame story option, what they really needed to do (this whole rambling rant is more how to make it more brutal while keeping as much of the release stuff as possible) was give you more options to RP as a Pre-War person with stakes in getting back home after unfreezing, cutting the opening right after the Vault Tec Rep to give you that glimpse into the Pre-War world while not overstaying it's welcome (leave the name of your son hidden until later in the main story) having Nate/Nora waking up with amnesia knowing only their own name, have Sanctuary be way further out from Vault 111 so that by the time you get back home and more of your past is revealed the Sole Survivor has become a completely different person, molded by the wastes and collapse of society, generally the best way to go about it is to give the player more chances to be truly evil, sadistic and viscous and generally just give the player a way to RP as someone whose rose tinted glasses become shattered and they slowly start to become jaded, cautious and if done right outright insane. It's honestly that on why I like Nuka World as a DLC, it's a very weak attempt at giving people that but it's still an attempt

Bethesda definitely doomed. They became a synonim for drawn out grindfests with bad plotlines and poor dialogue. There's no way out.

Fallout 4 should have had Karma and allow your decisions to rule you.

the biggest part I found missing in fallout 4 was how people failed to establish building even a small town after all that happened in the fallout cities. if you compare Commonwealth to other cities in the fallout games it looks like commonwealth just recently got nuked rather than 200 years ago

For those asking for such a mod, there's something very similar in Sim Settlements One (not 2, 1): Conqueror. It has a questline in which, right as you enter Concord, a raider called Jammer offers a deal in which you can kill Preston's group and the Corvega Raiders, then grow and develop your own gang to conquer territory and settlements.

Ok that was an epic backstory. I love the personal back stories, but it feels uncomfortable roleplaying as an insane bad guy because I don’t feel the main character would do that. I rather have the character to be a blank slate like the Courier.

thanks for the ride! i've recently given up on fallout 76 after playing for 2812 hours and level 1232 simply because you said it best, fortnite. they're introducing a NEW CURRENCY in the upcoming new season and i'm just over it. great vid, truly.

The biggest crime is That Gun not being in the game literally inspired by Blade Runner- and no one has made a decent mod adding it in. I don’t mind Synths- but Fo4 certainly didn’t execute them well.

FO3 was my first Fallout, it blew my mind that you could explore this uncanny valley American wasteland open world in first person. Stepping out of the vault for the first time and being blinded by the sun before my molevision faded and Washington DC revealed itself to me was... it was awe inspiring. Exploring the burnt out town just below the vault where nothing remains of it's pre-war inhabitants set me on edge, then happening upon Megaton's turbine engine powered gate only to be met by a Wild West Sheriff, a nuke worshipping cult, my first ghoul, and somehow an Irish bartender. I couldn't have asked for a better introduction to the wildness of Fallout. It was such an experience and honestly I don't think Bethesda has the balls or the brains to make anything like FO3 ever again. Man, entering the ruins of the Metro DC for the first time after fighting the Raiders at the Super Duper Mart, running from the ghouls of the underground, and meeting my first Super Mutant as he tried to forcefully acquaint my head with his nail board. And then right after you're suddenly thrust into a COD WW2 feeling set piece pushing the Mutie trenches with the Brotherhood of Steel which climaxed with that big fucker throwing fuckin nukes at you!! Compare this to wading through the aforementioned 3 hour long exposition intro of Fallout 4. Thanks Codsworth. I love the FO universe so much, but I have so many conflicting feelings about it too. It really does feel like trying to hold together a marriage with an alcoholic bipolar chick refusing to take her meds. There's good memories and I know there is a future in there somewhere, but I don't have the energy to try to help her fix this fucking mess anymore.

Fallout 4 lacked the darkness of 3 and NV, and even though the realism, highly modifiable guns/protagonist, build mode is cool, a darker ambiance/side missions/main missions/encounters would've made this game a gem.

The scenario you just proposed, is actually the start of a masterpiece, i was instantly drawn into the story.

The Ultra 1950s retrofuturism makes it too Disney like as well

I feel like both New Vegas and 3 were a great middle ground between dreadful and dark, and goofy survival adventures. Your decisions make a wide impact, but lets you be who you want to be. Sure, you always have the same backstory - Born in vault 108, or being shot in the head, but you can choose your morals and ideals after, and shape the wasteland in your heroic, or twisted image. You can be nobody whose somebody, and, in the words of Todd Howard, but this time in a more logical sense - "it just works" but this time, it works well to satisfy players, and extend fallout.

Right on. It needs to embrace the anti-hero as the character you play. Make it a dark tale.

umm can someone make this a mod? nobody said it yet but this guy is a genius the minutemen vs raider thing and every other thing was on point

In my own opinion, I actually think that they should've leaned more into your character having to deal with the trauma of losing everything and everyone they've known and loved with the only definite goal being to find their son. Trauma is something that can cause a person to become someone they don't recognize. If they leaned into that, it could have justified playing a role that contradicts their backstory. You'd be able to play a good character who wants to rebuild the commonwealth into something like the world they lost, or perhaps an evil character who snapped and made finding their son their only motivation to continue living because that's the only thing they have left. Both of these would be justifiable if they actually leaned into the traumas Nate / Nora went through.

Another thing that really irks me about Bethesda's Fallout games is that they always start off the EXACT SAME WAY: You start off in a Vault and have to look for someone. Fallout 3: You leave Vault 101 to find your father Fallout 4: You leave Vault 111 to find your son Fallout 76: You leave Vault 76 to find the Overseer Fallout TV Series: Lucy leaves Vault 33 to find her father It feels like they saw the first Fallout game and thought that's how every game should start. I don't want Fallout 5 to start with us being in a Vault; I want us to be someone who grew up in the wasteland, totally blind to the bigger picture, but knows enough about the world to explore and make our own decisions.

Someone need to mod that cannibal vault opening, sound dope.😊

You're a genius, this is such a great idea. I wish the video wasn't so short...

I think the reason why Bethesda played it safe with the Fallout in contrasts to 3/NV is because of the gaming industry as whole. Because of the gaming industry it placed restrictions and censorships that appeal to the general audiences. Sure, people do love Fallout when it was dark and gritty but at this day and age, something like that will bring in lots of controversy. Like lots of it.

FO1 was my introduction to Fallout, back in my teen years. It was brutal - the setting, the characters, the stories and the difficulty. Where all my water chip homies at?

I've had an argument on Reddits Fallout a couple of days ago before I see this video about this exactly same topic! It was incredible when I've played starfield with no blood... The lack of choices.. Im, like you, remember of making these choices in fallout games, hell, even on fallout 3! And now, Bethesda it's just flowers and rainbows with guns that shoot love...

What an amazing video! First off I gotta thank mutant mods for making a community post about this vid it's the only reason I'm here. The concepts you explore are very cool it truly felt like you whent a step further than just talking about what's wrong with fallout 4. Looking at you other videos I see you have experience modding and with graphical work which really has my hopes up that you plan to attempt to implement your ideas to fallout 4. Even though other mods cover the boot up of the game pretty well your more seamless approach would be an amazing contribution! Unlike start me up redux for example.

The side quest that hit me the most is the one in new vegas where in North Freeside you are supposed to find out what a local family's daughter is up to, and you eventually find out and expose a scheme to rob them with her boyfriend and run away, only to betray her. It ends with her being too angry to stop and tried to kill her mom, and since i didn't have the sufficient stats she went through with it and was distraughtwithwhat she's done, and runs away from her father. The available alternative would have been to kill her, and I tried both.

I'd like to expand more on the ideas of the choices you can make. Let's take a look at the Gunners, high end mercenaires in the base game we're always hostile towards you no matter what. But let's say after meeting them on the way to Diamond City you find them fighting Minutemen at one of their so called settlements. Here we had clues about the Quincy Massacre, and helping either the Minuteman or Gunners you can get either side of the story, seeing as the Quincy Massacre was heavily involved with one of their own betraying the Minutemen with the Gunners. And this can come to a moral alignment in judging if the betrayal was justified or not. We know that the Minuteman were pretty much the center of power in the Commonwealth in helping settlers and fending off the various raider gangs. And since they were in power for so long, something within the minutmen had been rotting, corruption and abuse of power, and perhaps one of the many leaders in the Minutemen found that it has been hurting Commonwealth more than helping it. And to prevent this broken order in the Commonwealth in assuming full control with the way it has been working, a civil war began between the Minuteman, and hired the help of Gunners to rid this parasite on the Commonwealth, becoming independent but later in Anarchy without order. Either coming to terms with the betrayal and having a peace treaty between the Minutemen and Gunners and have the Minutemen start over, and build back up with their true goal in mind. Or wipe out the remaining Minutemen for a large sum of caps and maybe even a unique weapon or armor from the Gunner General by dealing a killing blow to all remaining Minuteman Settlements all the way up to the Castle where Preston, Sturges and Ronnie making a final stand against the Gunners.

Starfield felt pg af also

Bethesda "Gremlins 2'd" the Fallout franchise. (see Key & Peele skit)

someone needs to make a mod that changes the beginning to be brutal like this

You must have been the only person to actually BUY Fusion Frenzy; I swear that demo was in every game I played

I dont think walking up to the raider and being asked is a "great" choice, when you pick a path its later on in the game, having it be too divergent at the start means that there's too much to work on and paths to take and they cant properly focus on one. A player looks at the world, sees the factions, and chooses. Being asked by a dude with a gun in your face deciding half the game plot with a single dialogue box meanwhile the player barely knows the controls is just bad game design. The first enemies you encounter are obviously the bad guys so the player can walk in guns blazing and aware, it would suck for a new player to walk in, say no, and get shot because everyone suddenly turns hostile at once without that slow burn of getting deeper and deeper into the town.

9:20 It sounds like another Monday😀

Have we come full circle? I was saying since fo4 came out that it was designed for broad appeal instead of fans to expand the player base, which made it miss the mark and fall out of the series themes a bit.

Tbh what makes me dislike fallout 4 is the lack of choice, life if you refuse preston and tell him that you won't help he'll be pissed and says "well if you change your mind", like no I don't want to change my mind i wanna be who i wanna be, ugh.

Your editing skills are dope dude

Speaking from my hart! Great video and informative for thoose who do not know earlyer games yet. FO4 is child play and less rpg like even FO3. Vibes nearly same but too much changes. Even Tactics was better and harder by managing all squad members skills. It was a step forward after fo2, but fo3 broke the line and fo4 changed too much.

If that would be the Fallout 4 lore, I would play this game much more... maybe even more than New Vegas

I dislike the lack of options. Like the most evil thing is the institute. But you have a MASSIVE organization of raiders in Nuka World. Hell there’s massive amounts of raider gangs in regular fallout.

Awesome! Love this

You are kinda misrepresenting the older fallout games. Old Fallout, especially 2 wasnt really this ultra serious dark game. 2 and new vegas especially have a ton of jokes and stuff like pop culture references, the real difference to the betesda games are 1 that they knew when to be serious and when not to be and 2 that the older games give you real choices instead of railroading you through the story the devs wanted to tell

I love fallout 4, was my first fallout, but I also have noticed this, they even avoid excessive swearing, it’s absolutely over the top, it’s an 18+ game, it should have 18+ themes. Much as fallout 4 has always been my favorite fallout, It would have been so much better if it was darker, more brutal, more adult, you’re not a character, you’re a blank slate, you have no ties holding you down in this new world, the way it should be, you’re just a person, and you decide what to do

So fallout 4 was my introduction to fallout. I loved it like no other before or since. That said your idea would have been infinitely better.

This is exactly the biggest issue with Fallout 4

Someone must make a mod about it

Fallout 4 is the first fallout I stopped playing and never finished. It has no soul, it might as well be on rails. The minute they tried to FORCE a dog on me, that i could not kill, I was like NOPE.

In F4 oversimplification is everywhere, just to be sure that player can gone through this journey with minimal brain effort.

Brutal like the original Fallout?

This should be viral and needs Tod to see

Dude, I would actually pay full price for a mod that changes the main story to fit your idea. The idea of the sole survivor sounds a thousandfold better than what we got. It honestly shouldnt take that much re work as making a new game. Get rid of the whole “finding my son” quests and dialogue, give more options with the factions. It would reduce the story game time, but it would also make the game much more playable, id actually have a reason to build settlements and explore instead of just “find my son”

I blasted the escaped synth that was pleading for her life just because she was a Synth. Although there's no karmic recoil to moments like that in Fo4, they really are the only moments that harken back to old school FO games. They really do need to branch the story better than choosing between 3 or 4 good guy factions. It would definitely had been cool to join the gunners, the vegas or anyone of the other raider gangs.