What if France won WW2? | Alt History 

Listen stefan if or doesn't if algeria will get his independence in 1963

1962

@@NO-zf3ib fuck algeria, vive la france

U don’t realise that france had a larger navy than uk and usa before ww2…if france had won the battle of france…the war would have been completelyyyy different lol…

@@drin2949non mais on avais une meilleure flotte que l’Italie Parcontre donc les anglais aurait pu être tranquille et le Japon aurait perdu plus tôt

thank you

Thank you, I'll slow them down a bit more from now on

At some point, one of these two has to accept that annexing regions from the other was only going to fuel the cycle of hostility and distrust that started way back in 1871. Increased reparations, maybe, but it's perhaps best for the European continent that France doesn't get any German land out of this.

Also, how would Colonialism be made illegal by the UN, when France, and Britain both, have the ability to veto any proposal? France would be more than strong enough economically to be able to take any form of sanctions that come their way.

Perhaps, but it wasn't in the plan of the Allies, they wanted a strong Germany to help the West against the Soviet Union

No problem, glad you enjoyed!

Thank you, and yeah looking back I agree the text is too fast, I'll get it sorted next time

I think you've got it pretty much right.

I know my great-grandfather would have still been in the Italian landings, especially since us and France would have been committed to that before the US joined.

Possibly, I mainly chose Petain due to his status among the French people.

Pretty much

@@patrioticbritishmapper8352 Well, hey, at least Germanh didn't get cut in half this time.

yeah, there is that.

Et si le Traité de Versailles n'était pas aussi impitoyable, il n'y aurait jamais eu de guerre.

c'est débile comme résonnement, tu devrais être fier que les soldat on défendu la retraite pour permettre une victoire ultérieur. car si les anglais auraient décidé de lancer la contre offensive il y a de grande chance que cette attaque aurait échoué et Ducoup l'Angleterre perdant sa principales armée aurait demandé un armistice (voulu par l'allemagne) et donc la guerre aurait finit sur une victoire allemande. et même si la contre offensive aurait fonctionné rien ne nous dit que l'allemagne n'au pas réussit une seconde offensive.

@@alexispeyrache5880 va jeter un oeil a ce que les allemands avaient l intention de nous mettre sur le dos avant de dire que Versailles est brutal

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The French Resistance Song.

@@patrioticbritishmapper8352 thank you so much

@@TheWhigs465 No worries.

Remember the allied navy.

With the french navy still in the allied camp, Axis troops in Africa doesn't stand a chance

I wouldn't say he was a fascist, the man was a war hero from WW1, he simply thought that France had lost so much in WW1 that following the German invasion in WW2, continuing the war and fighting to the last man was pointless (considering how things looked in 1940, that wasn't an unreasonable assessment) He was president of France before Vichy, he was deputy before the invasion but once they were invaded Reynaud refused to hold peace talks and resigned, thus Petain took over the presidency. In this timeline all the changes is that he believes they can keep fighting, in this case taking up Reynaud's proposal of fleeing to Algeria in order to keep fighting. At the time de Gaulle was just a general, he didn't have the political clout to become France's leader without France surrendering, which allowed him to become the brave Frenchman who stood up to the Germans.

Didn’t he work with the Axis out of convenience?

It's a French resistance song, I'm not too sure what its called.

@@patrioticbritishmapper8352 it's called" Chant des Partisans" . In English translation, it's "Song of the Partisans "

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The French Resistance Anthem

@@patrioticbritishmapper8352 thank you so much it’s a really good sounding song

@@ungusbungus2486 I agree

I typed in blank map of the world simple, and this one came up, granted it didn't have the ocean coloured in on the original version

Whoops, I'll get that fixed for next time

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The idea is... What if Spain wins the american-spanish war plisssss

Ok, I'll get it done

@@patrioticbritishmapper8352 thank you so much 🇪🇸🇬🇧

Silesia and Pomerania, along with parts of Danzing and the entirety of east prussia(modern day Kaliningrad) used to be ethnically german before the soviets deported them all after WW2.

@@spamlord7570 yeah and also sexy borders and not the bland boring one we have now

Ethnically German or not, the USSR would not tolerate a postwar Germany having such a close coastline to them. I can understand keeping Silesia, but keeping Pomerania and anything east of that is unrealistic.

​​​@@gengarzilla1685 The USSR has almost no cards to play in this timeline, they didn't even reach Germany before the Allies. With a Strong French Army, and with WW2 ending sooner, Britain would also have a much stronger Military. Combine that with American Industrial capacity, and the Soviets would stand no chance if a war broke out. Even less so, if the Allies decided to remilitarize Germany as a weapon against the Soviets, which could happen potentially. Another thing to consider, the allies wouldn't bomb Germany anywhere near as heavily, as they only did so in our timeline, to scare the Soviets. As if they were willing to decimate the Germans, what would they be willing to do to Communists?

​​@@gengarzilla1685 Britain would also commit to it's Empire in this Timeline, if only to spite the French, which would grant them more power both Militarily, and Economically. What ever the Soviets are willing to 'tolerate' is no ones concern. This treaty would go through, whether or not it would eventually boil over into a hot war, is another topic entirely.

The second song?

@@patrioticbritishmapper8352 yes sir

Not sure, I'll have a look

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-T5K0JjzPCN4.html there you go

@@patrioticbritishmapper8352 Thank you you're so nice! Subbed

I have not forgotten that, I am perfectly aware of it. That changes nothing in the timeline.

@@patrioticbritishmapper8352 ....you do not seem aware that France won the WW2 war....why if?

They surrendered, I don't know about you but I don't consider that to be something you do when you win. Said surrender also marked the end of the third French Republic, so in that sense France did lose.

@@patrioticbritishmapper8352 .....they surrendered .... yes, so what? they saved the British army from complete annihilation by sacrificing their troops! Moreover, you may think that without the "chanel" the English would have resisted? ... it took twenty million Russian deaths and all the might of American industry to win the war. if the "chanel" did not exist I don't think you would have fought for long in your meadows and in your fields as Churchill wanted .... let's be serious.

@@patrioticbritishmapper8352 ....moreover only a part surrendered .... part of the army continued to fight in Africa, in england with the Kieffer commando, another in russia! and yes do you know the Normandie-Niemen? it is today the most decorated air squadron in France. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wBJgS5mKy4g.html not to mention the French internal resistance which has never stopped fighting and dying! but you cannot understand what resistance is, you have to have known it to know the heroism it takes to fight by risking the life of your family and friends ... it's much more easy to criticize behind a computer screen .... frankly, people like you are ridiculous.

Here the French government doesn't surrender and become the Vichy regime.