Without Zuko's scar, he would've never been able to look inside himself to save himself from his other self. Only with the scar, will his true self reveal itself.
When I first watched avatar, I honestly thought that the show would go the timeline 2 route. Zuko's scar wouldn't be healed, but the effort would inspire him to join team avatar early. But I'm glad they went with the final product. His betrayal was difficult to watch, but necessary to signify his character development.
Exactly. If he hadn't gone back to the fire nation for what he viewed as his honour being restored he would constantly be wondering if he could go back and not feel worthy to be on the Avatars side
In Timeline 1, they totally forgot about the Eclipse. They probably would've stood a better chance with Zuko knowing the exact layout of the Capital, and probably also known where Ozai's bunker was.
@@BlueBlazeKing but actually they would stand a better chance remember in the new 1 timeline he said they would go free iroh and if iroh and zuko were with team avatar on day of black sun then they would know where to find ozai even easier and defeat him and even if they bumped into azula they could split up zuko and toph verse azula while iroh sokka and iroh go find ozai
there was a huge mistake in timeline 3 even if ravaa was killed there would be no 10 thousand years of darkness vatuu would still be trapped in the spirit world since only the avatar could open the portals so regardless the dark spirit would still be trapped in the tree but the airbender would not return they would be forever extinct
I think the weirdest part of atla for me was when zuko was having his fever dream after freeing Appa, and he looked in the mirror and he looked like an older Aang....
While Iroh didn't become Fire Lord, he was still the best Father Lord second best would be Zuko. Out of all of former Team Avatar that had children, Zuko was the only one who didn't have a rocky relationship with their children. He had a rocky relationship with Ozai, and he didn't want Izumi to have the same thing. He was very protective of his daughter Izumi. After Zaheer took the Queen's breath away (ba-dum-tss), he made sure to return to the Fire Nation to protect her in case Zaheer targeted Izumi next.
@@user-ri1qt7iu8p thanks，Even if the scar makes him look imperfect, it bears witness to his story and growth. Such imperfection is another kind of perfection.
Not only that. Zuko keeping his scar teaches him that he does not need to get rid of his scar to grow and live a better life. This is an important lesson many people need in life. Some things can not be changed so you gotta live your best life with it.
"I used to think this scar marked me. The mark of the banished prince, cursed to chase the Avatar forever. But lately... I've realized that I'm free to determine my own destiny, even if I'll never be free of my mark." Zuko is NOT his scar. That's what Ozai wanted him to believe.
I don't think Zuko would have chosen to side with the avatar immediately if Katara had removed his scar. It's pretty clear that by that time, at the crossroads, he still wasn't ready. Just my thoughts though! It's absolutely true that he was making progress up to that point, and that it WAS a genuinely difficult decision. I just don't think he fully understood what he wanted for Himself yet. Katara healing him would have been like a favor, not necessarily negating what Zuko still thought he wanted at that time (being accepted in the fire nation).
I think he would’ve since aang would’ve got hit and that might’ve made feel guilty. He was already thinking abt it so I think it kind of made sense. Maybe it might’ve been more of a one time thing and he would live the quiet life. We may never know...
You’re right about Zuko being at a crossroads but that’s why he would join once his scar was healed. That moment would have him thankful for the gaang while also realizing the fire nation was the reason he had the scar int the first place. Even the tiniest thing would tip the balance
It probably wouldn't do anything visually. It's been years since he got the scar, so it's mostly healed. The only thing the spirit water would do, is fix his eye sight, assuming the injury damaged his eye. But the scar would remain like it did with aang.
The water doesn’t just heal injuries. It literally brings people, even the Avatar, back to life. And since Aang got shot while in the Avatat state, it killed the Avatar spirit (Raava) as well, which means it brings spirits back to life as well. Katara implied that she wasn’t entirely sure what the water could do, just that it had “special healing properties”. With resurrection being one of them, I wouldn’t count healing physical impurities likes scars completely out since that’s pretty minimal compared to bringing people back from the dead. And scars do fade away gradually over time. Obviously Zuko’s didn’t, but to be fair he didn’t really care to treat it and it was bigger than an average scar.
I think the point they're making here is that if this Spirit Water is powerful enough to bring someone back from the dead, it might be powerful enough to return a scar to normal skin.
@@lucasrobin2788 thing is, the scar left of the strike never healed. Aang still has that scar on his back, despite being healed minutes after the fact.
@@Sonic09Hedgehog but katara used the spirit water to heal aang, not get rid of the scar. she was just trying to heal him, so even though the spirit water probably is powerful enough to heal a scar like aangs, it didnt get healed because thats not what katara was trying to do. however, if she used the water on someone with the specific purpose of healing the scar and not the injury, (like healing zukos scar) the scar probably would get healed.
I'm glad we got to learn about Wan and the origins of Avatar thanks to Korra His arc was so beautiful. And I love his "Really? Because I just did" attitude. *It was his bending, Mr Krabs. HE WAS NUMBER WAN!*
I just have to add that in the alternate version where Zuko already joined the group in Ba Sing Se and they defeated Azula there, Firelord Ozai wouldn't have known about the invasion plan and he wouldn't have hidden in the bunker. Then Team Avatar would not only have the entire Earth King Army behind them, but they would also have a surprised and unprepared Fire Nation in front of them. It would have gone even easier.
yeah, but then the last battle between aang and ozai (at his most powerful moment because of the comet) AND the last agni kai would never happened. i dont know if a weak and short final battle would be the best way to end the series...
@@Noobmaster-is7kv i know!! and i'm sorry i didn't say it with bad intentions tho.. i was just saying what things wouldn't happened, but i understood your point perfectly and i also agree on how the series really ended. everything was perfect just the way it happened 😊😊
2:03 my main issue here is that the only reason Ozai even decided to end the earth kingdom is because of Zukos input on the matter of the people and rebellions that were occurring no Zuko no ending the earth kingdom
I realized something. In the Legend of Korra, Zuko still has his scar, even though Katara was still alive at the same time. That means that he had accepted that scar as a part of himself, and didn't want to erase it.
Can't even finish watching. Basically my childhood dream of his scar being healed would change everything and possibly the happy ending I adored in this show. I would love Zuko with the scar I would love Zuko's character with no scar. Still think the show would be fantastic but this dove into an area I've always wondered about.
I have something to add to Timeline 2 The Avatar raged up in a sphere of air ,rock ,and water but then from the storm a single voice called out to the Dai Li "I created you to protect the Earth King and his people, you have betrayed my trust and your nation!" the Avatar swiftly sent out pillars of earth at the Dai Li too fast for them to react and many were killed. The voice came again yelling "I disband the Dai Li, the only worthy protectors i have formed are the Kyoshi Warriors, I regret letting this happen...." The avatars shape seemed to flash and flicker inside the glowing orb and it all stopped when the shape of Avatar Kyoshi became clear...
maybe. but for Aang, it brought him back from the dead, which is way more important than healing a scar. since Zuko obviously isnt dead, maybe it would heal it? idk just a thought
I love watching these alternate timeline episodes. It just shows how meticulous and intentional every scene, every character decision, every dialogue was and how it served a purpose in where it would lead to next and what it would mean for the greater story as a whole and its conclusion. It just further solidifies this show as some of the best examples of storytelling
I disagree with the second timeline because the whole reason the day of black sun failed was azula knew from when she disguised herself as a kyoshi warrior and the earth king spoke of the plan unless Zuko somehow knows of where Ozai is hiding during the day of black Sun this wouldn’t have happened and the day of black sun would end in the same way
Timeline 1: Bad, but Aang and Zuko would probably defeat Ozai anyway. Timeline 2: Best possible outcome. Timeline 3: We're doomed. Timeline 4: No Avatar, but there's still a bit of hope.
@@alexslusher16 Thats an interesting thought but thatd mean every Avatar before Aang would have to be born in a different nation, all the way to Avatar Wan. History couldve gone completely different just by the Avatar cycle starting in a different nation
@@alexslusher16 well Roku was firenation and didn’t stand for it. The avatar is light and peace sooner or later he/she would realize it. The fire nation would teach him meditation and the avatar would learn from his past lives by meditating into the spirit world. He must learn the spiritual side of being the avatar or else the fire nation would have an avatar who can’t go into the avatar state😂 aang was spiritual from being born an air bender and was a master which is why he would have uncontrollable avatar state hiccups.
For Timeline 1: Ozai's scorched earth plan was partially inspired when he asked Zuko for insight about Earth Kingdom commoners and Zuko said "...as long as they have hope." This prompted whole plan. So if Zuko wasn't there, it's possible the Scorched Earth plan wouldn't have come to be either.
It’s possible that with the longer time to work on firebending, Aang would have felt prepared to take on the Fire Lord before the comet. Also, Iroh and Zuko would have had knowledge of the underground tunnels to aid with finding Ozai. Also, Mai and Tai Lee might not have had their redemption points. Plus, Zuko might not have cemented his new character if he hadn’t given up his place in the Fire Nation while he had everything to lose. He might have had a catastrophic backslide at some point.
I had expected some of these things would happen...but this is really great to get confirmation from creator's team itself...❣ Tbh Zuko's scar doesn't define what inside he is, but yea we wouldn't recognize him without that scar...
Time line 3 Zuko taking the dead Avatar's destiny unto himself, and facing his father in combat for the throne and the fate of the world? Pretty intense.
But in the meeting to decide what to do during Sozin's comet it was Zuko's input that gave Azula the chance to recommend destroying the earth kingdom. Without Zuko there Azula might not have said that especially with her confidence so low after the defeat just after a huge victory
Now we need to see "What if Zuko successfully learned to generate Lightning from Iroh?" and maybe even "What if Zuko fought back in the Agni Kai against his Father?"
@10:43 The idea of a failed invasion is actually covered pretty well in the fanfic Avatar: Distorted Reality. It imagines if Aang did not defeat Fire Lord Ozai. He asks for help from Avatar Yangchen, who sends him into an alternate reality where Azula and a scarless Zuko find him in a volcano, the Water Tribe has invaded the world, Sokka is a banished prince with a scar, and Katara is his calculating sister. Its super well done, I recommend looking it up if you're interested in alternate timelines / possibilities for the Avatar universe.
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Zuko might know it was coming and could have had Katara launch him up right in front of Aang with her waterbending so that he could catch Azula's lightening just in time and redirect it.
I kind of liked how the physical scar on Zuko represents the emotional trauma that he went through with his dad so I wouldn’t love that if it actually happened
Azula surprised Aang and everyone else with her lightning strike when he went into the Avatar state. Zuko wouldn’t have been able to redirect it as he had no inclination that it was coming. He was as surprised as everyone else.
but he would be fighting her instead this time. he would probably be the one focussing on her as this is personal to him, so he would also likely be in a position to try and stop her.
I cannot see Zuko behaving too differently if Katara healed him. He still would've betrayed Team Avatar, though with a heavier conscience than originally. And with Aang being dead by lightening and lack of spirit water. While in book 2, Zuko learns that he has his own destiny. However, at that point, he still believed that honor was something he needed to be given back by his father. He still longed for that. The first half of book 3 shows him struggling and being unhappy, even though he finally got what he wanted, or rather, what he thought he wanted. However, in this hypothetical situation, Aang would have been dead, Katara, Sokka, and Toph would have hated Zuko's guts forever. Iroh would probably want little to do with him (maybe. He never stopped loving Zuko,) And then Zuko would've been left with regret for the rest of his days in a fire nation-run world.
aww, this was great, I loved all the alternative timelines you delved into. Can we get similar what if videos for other Avatar what-ifs? Like what if the Invasion of the North was successful/moon couldn't be revived etc.
@@rollinthunder1000 We are talking about ATLA. Of course 1 million is a lot. But I know that the number of people who watched this show is much bigger. I meant that it's underrated if you consider the people who watched the show/who are subscribed
the scar is a reminder of his father's cruelty. he would bask in his father's approval and fail to see him for the monster that he is. at the end of the series, the scar is his badge of honor. of the time he stood up against his father
I always watch this and think "THAT COULD'VE TOTALLY WORKED AAAH!!" But then at the same time I'm like "No Zuko wouldn't be the same without his scar."
7:05 If Aang had never learned energybending from the Lion Turtle, even if they had defeated Ozai, what would they do with him? Aang would probably object to Ozai being executed, but you couldn't just keep the dethroned Fire Lord in prison, especially with Sozin's Comet approaching.
I really like this since this question is popular alternative timeline and it's nice to see the official avatar RU-vid channel take their thoughts on this. I would also like to see them take on other alternate timelines like what if aang ran away, what if azula was banished, what if someone else was the avatar like katara or Zuko or sokka
i’m glad he didn’t get his scar healed and join team avatar during the crossroads of destiny. zuko going back home, realising it *wasn’t* what he wanted and confronting his father was such a crucial part of his development, he wouldn’t be zuko without it.
In the third timeline, Aang could be alive because Katara healed Zuko without the spirit water before so Aang could still be alive and Zuko would definitely think that Aang is dead and everything would probably go the same way until The day of the black sun when Team avatar find the bunker, but it would probably be Zuko and Azula instead of just Azula and they both wouldn't be expecting Aang I say that Aang and the group would escape but Zuko wouldn't join team avatar then for book 3 Sokka would never find suki and his dad because only Zuko would know and the timeline for #1 would happen
If Katara had healed Zuko's scar he more than likely would've helped team avatar in ba sing se. But then book 3 wouldn't have had a leg to stand on, in development or in basic story telling. The team wouldn't have taken over a Fire Nation ship, Aang wouldn't have gone to a school, everyone that came to fight during the eclipse would've had to hide/camp together; meaning they'd be much easier to find. And lastly if she had healed Zuko's scar, let's just face it. Aang wouldn't have stood a chance with Katara.
Actually, in the third timeline where Aang dies and the cycle is broken there would be no Korra to open the portals at the north and south poles to begin with. So, when Raava came back she would be sealed in the that tree as well. All things considered this outcome with 10,000 years of darkness wouldn't actually be possible, but the Fire Nation would still win.
Isn’t Zuko the one that unintentionally inspired Azula’s suggestion to destroy the earth kingdom during Sozin’s comet? Meaning that if he wasn’t at the meeting then Ozai wouldn’t have attempted to destroy the earth kingdom during Sozin’s comet?
Truly Avatar needs a What if anthology spin off series. Like certain events and choices changes from what’s canon in the OTL and make a few or several episodes of such events.
