WHAT IF RADITZ TURNED GOOD? | A Dragonball Discussion 

i think Nappa is the only Saiyan that should've been killed off in the Saiyan saga

Devin Campbell true Nappa was just a henchman kinda character. I don't get why Toriyama did this. Every other anime shows the big bro as a strong cool character. I guess Db isn't every other anime

+Asim Uddin Yeah i think Goku, Vegeta, and Raditz + Piccolo all could've had an interesting rivalry instead of just Goku and Vegeta and to an extent Piccolo being rivals and it would've been nice to see Raditz as SSJ, SSJ2, or even possibly SSJ3 (I always wanted to know what that would look like)

But then again would Bulma become Raditz's wife or still become Vegeta's wife and what other available female is/was there?

Devin Campbell Launch was available but Toriyama forgot about her. The rivalry would've been cool. It's not too late Toriyama can still bring him back and make him train with Gohan or something but then again ending of z is cannon and he's obviously not in it. Such a wasted potential

Omnigod SSR agreed

Even R&R

Oh and Ranch

true my dog

Uhhh what?

LiquefiedCrabCheese erh... he only asked for a hundred after all. He is trying

LiquefiedCrabCheeseTV He gave Goku a chance to rejoin the family business instead of offing him like a typical saiyan.

I thought it was a 100 heads

Biscuit Gum no it was corpses

Biscuit Gum actually he said 100 human bodies so Goku, if he was clever, could’ve just brought a 100 already dead humans from their graves. Sure it would’ve been major work but it would’ve definitely worked

who...nappa, goten, kid trunks, Tien, raditz.... so many wasted characters hard to know which one your on about. no one gets a look in if ur not one of main characters.

ShyGirlLucy Coosie Also King cold

So many possibilities with him... all of it, was just washed up to the drain

JJ Williamson, Emily Selleck what if in super instead of frieza being revived to join gokus team and he's unlocked super sayin blue and they have to stop him and he'll be kind of like a dark brother and goku will be like why are you doing this brother we were supposed to be family or something anything would be better than the waste of potential that was raditz

JJ Williamson, Emily Selleck exactly he had so much development in little time. If he survived he might've surpassed goku and vegeta in the future

+Super Vegito Thats probably the case.

Super Vegito he obviously didn't forget though did he lol? how would bringing back raditz help bring to series forward

Big - He wasnt mentioned again like Frieza Cell Buu Dabura hell even King Piccolo was mentioned but not Raditz

Super Vegito Or its cause he's dead why would they mention him he's so weak in comparison to then and goku doesn't see him as a brother Also gohan mentioned him against cell

the godly flame soulaymana when

Actually effective burn due to him being like 50 ish at the time sooo...

Krillian: SHOTS FIRED

Vegeta: *Laughing*

@@dualbladesgaming7569 don't you mean owned count

@@ronjayrose9706 Either way works.

YES

IK

Maybe as a flashback, yes.

I agree with that

@@hazzabrooksy4089 With my idea being a flashback?

It's super effective! Vegeta: Oh, Bullsh*t!

Lot more effective than Headbutt that's for sure

Miel Sibel they be good punching bag

Miel Sibel ....They should come back and try to kidnap Bra while Bulma and Vegeta are having quality time ether together or alone and then Goten and Trunks hunt them down and beat them up....This would make for a fun filler episode xD

Dragon Ball Super is flipping everything around against GT. The Pilaf Gang was pretty much enemies and irrelevant in GT, but was brought back 'good' in DBS. No. 17 was a villain in GT, but is a hero in DBS. Goku being the hero 100% of the time in GT, but DBS was able to somehow make Goku the villain. lol Luud was a villain in GT, kind of still is, but one of the gods of destruction (good?) resembles Luud. I guess the Dragon Balls are still good as Super Dragon Balls (good) vs Black-Star Dragon Balls (bad) I'm surprised they didn't make Frieza good. lol Maybe the two saiyans will make a comeback as I'm waiting for tuffles to be good somehow as all tuffles in Dragon Ball series were villains. Idk, just general ideas. CYA!

Jesse Robinson I don't think they are stupid enough to kidnap vegeta's daughter

But the the thing is Vegeta would not know about it because Goten and Trunks would save her befor Bulma and Vegeta even knew about it because this idea would not only give Goten and Trunks more screen time but it would make Trunnks look like a better brother..And Goten is there because Trunks would force him to help.

@@vegetablackpotato4700 not really. More of the entire of Z.

Well it’s still not over so this is gonna be a long one

Me too

Or a manga adaptation.

Well currently we've got some fan manga's that are incomplete, one is Dragon Ball Zoku and this other one by JS Candy Hell who unfortunately stopped using Patreon for some reason, I am hoping by the time they are complete there can be an Audio Comic Dub for them.

Rafael Carrillo YES. IT'S AMAZING. Don't mind the OC later on though. Keep reading and you'll understand who it is and why they exist in this universe.

I am so glad that someone brought this fic up, because it is amazing.

Rafael Carrillo I just posted a comment about this! I love it!!

Lukas Sørensen du er dansk.

Yeah, this video had me remembering that one. It was so sad, especially at the end of it when he imagines his father before dying.

I love that side story! Is as good as Spike defeating Frieza!

Ja :D

Lukas Sørensen har du overwatch.

Bignick82411 JackSepticEye’s another one :)

And Chuggaaconroy

D

This playlist was not made by masako

troublemonkey1 _ this playlist literally sits on masakox channel You’re just on the wrong playlists

Alpha X Would’ve been nice to see that

Alpha X he's your favorite character? lol ok

@ProjectZRE YT Ironically, Raditz got way more screentime and lines than the immensely popular Boba so theres more to work with lol, he had potential

I still Don't Get it why he is your Favourite Character. Simply in my opinion is that i like his Suit

@@Vaksharules1999 ikr Boba fett don't really had that much line or Screentime But still more popular than this Underrated Character

Gamer X no he is a producer in Hollywood now

Ryan Burnstein no nappa is a poke master now

Zed Miller nope he produces Pokémon

Ryan Burnstein he produces pokemon sun and moon

aRandom Donor he produces all Pokémon and has a 50% stake in Nintendo

I'm thinking not a very big one.

Not that much he would only have a power boost of 103

Dovakiin seventeen he probably based it on previous boost.

ENGLAND IS MY GOD CHURCH With Raditz initially starting off at, what, LV 1,000? You are correct, though. It wouldn’t be THAT significant of a boost to really notice that much

Devil May Rise his power lvl was stated to be 1,500 so he’d probably go up to around 2000

It makes sense because Vegeta's crimes were a lot worse than Raditz's

Drago 303 Look up "Break Through the Limit."

That fanfic is kinda bullshit. Haven't read it in a while, but I hate how Vegeta didn't join them and Zarbon did. Also, I think Piccolo remained a bad guy.

Drago 303 u know who would be better than raditz? bardock he would be even stronger than goku at his first appearance he time travelled and all that crap but he returns to earth as a ssj at the saiyan saga .

G Truesdale BOI XD GOHAN X TRUNKS

G Truesdale kale?

Mo49 Alshaif GOHUN X TRUNKS 4EVER

My new ship: Trully :3

oh i would pay a s*** ton of cash just to see Vegeta's face

Luke M. Smith Bardock is canon tho

Luke M. Smith Bardock is cannon now, Another guy drew goku with scars and Akira toriyama liked the idea he made alterations and added him in both the anime and manga

Broly is canon :/

Richelle brooks yeah :/

Sure, but not just a great theory, A GAME THEORY

You ain't alone. :) That was a beautifully-depicted scene.

Jigoku Lamb yep. I was honestly touched.

When did this happen?

@@psalazar1971 The end of the vid?

😭😭😭 that’s sooo sweet and sad

Caitlin Brewer Dunno about Nappa. He's just a stereotipical bully. Your average expandable character.

Although Raditz would've had imense potential to stay.

I know, I've just been watching a lot of DBZ Abridged and its impossible not to love their Nappa. But even in canon I can't help but feel a little sorry that after serving Vegeta his whole life he is killed because he lost one battle.

I'd prefer if only Raditz was still around, he has a lot more potential for character growth.

Hey they get Super Saiyan 3 in Dragon Ball Heroes. That's better than nothing, right? Although, almost everyone gets SS3 in DBH...

'Oh my dear the evening was so peaceful' ... -'freaks!'

And funny!

+Arceus Lord of Creation Same

A bit ? I'm really pissed off that Toriyama killed him off quickly and moved on

Me: *Imagines Raditz being drunk off his ass*

Arceus Lord of Creation #BringRaditzBack

#BringRaditzBack

ns yes

Farmer with a Shotgun would have broken the story, sadly. Every arc would just be him shooting the villain in the face,

He too powerful

Farmer with a shotgun never died, he actually appears in several arcs

Future TV damn, he's the next yajirobe,but better.

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Mamaron

how is vegeta a disgrace

Vegeta: Four and hal-shut up!

@@sakinbashir4300 he’s never said vegeta was a disgrace

@@sakinbashir4300 boii

goku still has not resurrected king kai it is probably the end =V

King Kai also resides in the afterlife, basically. His brother doesn't.

he does now that he is dead LUUUUUUUL

yeah! what if goku wanted to resurrect his brother and hope he turns completely good.

Yeah, I can see a part 2 happening. At least I hope so.

Thedemonhater I actually would have loved to see raditz go ssj 1, not just 3 like in dragonball heroes cus that form doesnt spike up his hair to much

Maybe Vegeta still decides to go to Namek. And Goku figures that to pay back Raditz they'd go too. To revive him.

+Naruku2121 Simply replace Piccolo with Raditz, to a degree.

i think that Raditz would cut his hair eventually, so when he goes ssj it doesnt just look like ssj 3

L3GEND his hair would eventually grow back to its original one since thats how saiyan hair works, we dont know how fast it will grow but ii assume its way faster than human hair

*WHO IS THE FIRST? WE MUST KNOW!*

Mine is bardock

Righto

Jonny5Fails it wasn't him falling. A dective saibem blew up on him then he fell on his head

I thought it was tenkaichi 3 and piccolo just kiced his ass that harf

Tenkaichi 2 had an alternate scenario named Fateful Brothers, in which Raditz loses the fight against Piccolo, then tries to kill Piccolo with a Saibaman. However the Saibaman was defective and attacked Raditz, giving him a temporary amnesia. For about 6 months Raditz works woth the Z fighters, then his memories come back, he kidnaps his, nephew Gohan, is killed, and his final words are warning Goku. In his final moments he has a fight with his father, inside his head, and dies peacefully knocked out.

Pechi Someone else said that Raditz during that moment (Butokai Tenkaichi 2) had that same scenario but instead of dying in his head knocked out, but rather took his pod and crashes it into Vegeta and Nappa's, killing them with him. But I haven't played that sadly...

Yeah I remember playing that

AmericanSaiyajin Break Through the Limit DBZ. Look it up.

Xavier Paris Thank You! I've been looking for a fanfiction to use my free time on :D

AmericanSaiyajin Check out Masako's recent vids-it's going to be a thing!

AmericanSaiyajin time to go the way of marvel and DC.

@@xavierparis2789 or the Saiyan Alliance

I'm 2 years late but... Actually, I think Piccolo would take Gohan in to make him his apprentice for conquering the world

Take one of the early episodes of dragon ball z abridged. They made the joke that piccolo took gohan despite not knowing about the saiyans.

Nope, the entire reason he took Gohan was that he thought that Gohan's potential would be very useful to his plan to conquer the world. The Saiyans coming just gave him more of a reason to kidnap him.

Freedom Fighter a man of speculation nice

You mean timeline? Pretty sure this is still Universe 7 we’re talking about.

Noooooooooooooooooooooo

Ghost Kaiser Beerus would have likely killed them and destroyed Earth in BoG since it would be impossible to create a Super Saiyan God, that is of course if he didn't kill vegito and destroy the earth on the spot as is.

nah shenron is afraid of beerus so after learning how the god transformation works he would have asked to unfuse considering at the time we didnt know there was a time limit for the fusion then things would have played out according to the reg story. just the zamazu battle would be have to remove the time limit on the patora or make an excuse about it being one with a time limit or something

Tarble

Every other fight in the show would be a breeze. Minus Beerus.

Rainbow Kicker I'm pretty everyone had to be super Saiyan, except for Videl being the exception as pan wasn't born. Everyone was super Saiyan for the transformation. Beerus would've killed them since he wouldn't be capable of a God transformation.

TNE001 Did you watch the rest of the series? Are you going to watch Dragonball R&R?

'' I was expecting the content to be kinda cheesy'' you're not wrong

Toriyama was stupid really first he forget launch and then wasting so much character

Raditz's purpose was to introduce us to the Saiyans, and show how ruthless and evil the people Goku comes from really are. He perfectly completed that purpose, so really, not all that wasted.

A shinier head.

his goatee would turn gold.

So....Dragon ball heroes.

what if nappa turned super saiyan 3?

Beard? You mean.... MOOSTACHE

#BringRaditzBack

DAbeast Raditz so is this for toei? or akira?

ArcadeTH Yes.

ArcadeTH both

*_#BringBackRaditz_*

Fabio Laochunshack Raditz is a tsundude

Damn, I kinda like imagining Raditz being embarrassed in a skirt.

@@ryanford1267 he's technically wearing one

@@ZyroShadowPony Yeah...pandas!

Probably Not Jeice me too

OOOOOFFFFFFFFFFF

2 years too late but Dragonball R&R does exactly that

Check out ( zoku manga) its very good

DBZ Zoku

2020...

Salsar quarantine

Me too

Welcome to 2020 mate

2021...

Ss3 raditz. That hair would be rediculas

SSJ4 RADITZ!!!!!!!!!!

SSB in part 8 :)

Mr. Cub Fan 415 f

Mr. Cub Fan 415 r

It is... necesary.

You're talking about Fateful Brothers, right?

The Legendary NEO Well in that one, Raditz gets his ass kicked by a Saibaman, giving him the same brain damage Goku got. It's actually more similar to Break Through the Limit. Raditz fails to beat Piccolo when he arrives because Piccolo is now stronger than him, Goku and Tien go to help him since Piccolo is the threat they know of. Afterwards, Vegeta says Raditz is a weakling and that they are going down there to kill everyone, including him. Oh yeah and Tien dies. So he goes to King Kai and learns the Kaioken and Spirit Bomb instead of Goku.

It'd certainly make for an interesting topic to discuss. My guess is, Kami and King Kai might have some amount of communication, and he sends the Z-Warriors to Namek in order to face this threat, having more confidence in them to take on Frieza, while at the same time, saving his kin.

Shaywin Haxlash Revision: Nappa kills Piccolo via surprise attack. Fixed ;)

Yes, this REALLY should have been addressed. There may have also been some changes to the fight with Vegeta, but that pales in comparison to the namek question. Does Frieza still go to namek, or maybe to earth where dragon balls have been confirmed to be?

Shaywin Haxlash so... part 2?

Chaoitzu (I don't know how to spell his name) is still dead, he was already revived in Dragon Ball, so that would be a reason for them to go to namek.

Rotfl

Launch, obviously.

I thought about Launch but then remembered that she liked Tien. Toriyama really needs to bring her back.

M&K you mean snow yeah that would be nice to see that village again

hmm... caullifla or kale... maybe... or bulma's sister [and the raditz 'goes wild in the ring']

Tights, Bulma's sister

Actually a Saibaman blows on his face, that's how he got amnesia

Stonestreamdubs /

Then he trains with Goku and grows to care for his nephew Gohan but he starts getting his memory back and gets a transmission from Vegeta and Nappa telling him they're coming to Earth to get Earth's Dragon Balls. Piccolo stays evil in that universe and at first Raditz is scared of him but after spending time training with Goku and Gohan Raditz becomes stronger and more powerful than Piccolo and beats him easily but has to get talked out of killing him by Goku which was stupid because Raditz would have been justified in killing him then given Piccolo's constant attempts on his life. Then he eventually regains his memory and kidnaps Gohan to try and force Goku to continue his original mission of destroying Earth and killing its people like in canon but after being beaten by the Z Fighters Raditz has a dream about fighting his and Kakarot/ Goku's dad Bardock and then after realising how much he's come to care for his brother and nephew he commits suicide by colliding his ship with Vegeta and Nappa's taking them with him and redeeming himself in death.

Xehanort10 I'd like to say that raditz may get revived after he crashed into them.

Stonestream Dubs, I remember I actually beat him and didn’t get to do the Saiyan Saga until I replied the game 3 months later

nexusshark gohan wasn’t hurt that much and raditz probably did more fighting

W

nexusshark - Korin gave goku that bean after goku was revived which was after Raditz was already did

FINALLY!!! Krillen, now's your chance to say it. Krillen: "SENZU BEAN!!!"

Palladia Apparently they only kept Vegeta around because of Fan outcry, you can see that with how much they try to kill off Vegeta and he just comes back. Also they killed off Raditz because his Hair took up too much ink...

Bighat The Star Nomad Then just draw it shorter

Sava Roksic How? he wanted his brother kakarot to join them and defeat frieza.

So

Yeah! I wanna see Super Sayan Raditz :D

That would involve Raditz surviving this, which doesn't seem likely.

KairiHawk one can dream

+KairiHawk They could if they used the dragon balls to wish back everyone Vegeta and Nappa killed. Or if they do end up on Namek, he could be part of the later wish they revives everyone Frieza's men killed since Vegeta worked for Frieza at the time.

The Dragon Balls could easily bring Raditz back, along with all the people Vegeta and Nappa have killed, while leaving Nappa himself dead (seeing as he's included on Vegeta's kill card). That may even be a major reason to go to Namek in and of itself, regardless of Frieza. Even if not wished back then, there's plenty of time between the destruction of Namek and Goku's return to Earth to search out Earth's Dragon Balls , and thus revive him. You could really shoehorn in Raditz' revival at any point, as long as the Dragon Balls don't absolutely need to be used then and there for something far more important. The three-year wait between the Namek and Android sagas seems like a good choice.

Raditz does feel like a character with a lot of potential that Toriyama wasted, but not the only one. Does Toriyama have some sort of problem that we need to know?

Sapphire Reacts Basically the whole DBZ

And beyond to Super..Would've been cool to see how Raditz would play out in all of the super saga's

Varun Dutt Mohla it would be cool to see how strong ratiz would be

The Indian G-Man yass so he can go super saiyan blue because he is a full blooded saiyan and he is as strong as Vegeta so he is close to Goku think about in the Beerus Arc they wouldn't have about having a sixth saiyan because they have Raditz and Ranch! And the Frieza arc you could have three Super saiyan blues to take out Frieza! And U6 arc We could have Goku,Vegeta,Raditz,Piccolo,Monoka(Sorry if I spelled his name wrong)and we wouldn't have to worry about Buu sleeping! The Goku black arc possible he might not go that far but if he does Raditz could be there to help and could make a difference against merged Zamasu! And that will probably be it he is not going to the Tournament of power but besides that Raditz could replace Buu instead of Frieza he is more trustworthy and possibly stronger and that's it took me a while but it wasn't hard to think

Tournament of power members Strongest-weakest Goku,Vegeta,Raditz,Gohan,#17,Piccolo,#18,Krillin,Tien or Roshi I don't care who

*inhale* NNNAAAAAAAIIIIIIILLLLL!!!

Dylan Eifert Guru: NAILLLLLL Nail: yes lord Guru? Guru: ...gather the dragon balls

Dylan Eifert technically they already did wish him back when they wished for everyone who was killed by freeza to be brought back to life

Guru: I saw a bird, it was pretty.... Kick its ass.

HighStrikePlays _ But Raditz was not killed by a member of the Frieza Corps. 😑

And by somehow hear about Frieza, I mean Raddits would likely tell him

Not to mention, Radditz could have his own Half Saiyan/Human Kids like Vegeta and Goku.

Raddits would mention him... there's still the namek saga that'd likely happen anyway.

Eternal Chaos Why wouldnt he? Goku would want to know more about his past, and from there the talk would go to Frieza. Hearing about him, Goku would want to go challenge him. Theyd show up on Namek in time to save Vegeta from a confrontation with the Ginyus, and the arc would play out quite similarly, with Raditz taking the place of Gohan, Piccolo, and Krillin.

+Eternal Chaos They would have to go to namek because they can't revive chotsu because he was already wish backed with the dragon balls once on earth.

Anupam Jaiswal DAAAAAAAAMN

Anupam Jaiswal XD

Totally see that happening in the anime

Anupam Jaiswal really? I knew I shouldn't have decided to rewatch dbz before watching super!

The sad part is, I wouldn't be surprised if that happens in Super.

Raditz becomes Rapunzel

He'd trip over the 20 yards of hair.

lol the male version of rapunzel

Dragon Ball Heroes got you covered! vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/d/dd/Super_Saiyan_3_Raditz.png/revision/latest?cb=20161116135000

he better has a damn spindash attack

Android Big Smoke two fucking widows peaks

pivotdude324hi Just imagine how big the fused character's forehead would be. HOLY SHIT.

Maybe the combined hairstyle would be something like SS4 Vegeta's?

Fucking, the hair doesn't even start until it's like behind the ears, the rest coming up his forhead is just a fucking widow's peak that stops between his eyes.

*WIDOW'S PEAK INTENSIFIES*

I don't think Senzu save people from fatal wounds.

As long as you can swallow it, it'll work. It doesn't work against viruses though.

it definitely can save you from fatal injuries, just look at Yajirobe or Yamcha

Yeab but Goku died

Agreed

+dušan stevanović Woah...That's deep

Fake Name, i was just thinking the same. raditz would gain a zenkai boost and help goku fight nappa and vegeta, thus it would be a two on one fight cause nappa would get destroyed as usual.

There were none until a week after their fight when Goku finally got one from Yajirobe or they would used it to save Tien or Piccolo who were likewise mortally injured (abeit Tien gave up all of his life energy to Tri-Beam his ass).

Your wrong, Goku had one, he gave it to Krillin when he turned up to the fight. In this version of events, Krillin would not have needed it and so Goku would have given it to Raditz as he did for Vegeta on Namek. The ending of this story is all wrong, I suspect Raditz would have survived the Sayian arc and possibly gone to Namek with Goku...or maybe with Gohan and Krillin.

bluecrimson9001 along with Picollo of course.

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