What If...? Season 2 Episode Ranking & Review! 

i randomly went into this video to check a notification about my comment exactly 51 seconds after you posted this

I guess he missed that part

It’s less like What If and more like an alternate history scenario with some Marvel stuff to make it possible. What it’s missing (for What If or alternate history) is to show us how the divergence changes the world going forward. It could have used a sequel episode, but not with Dr. Strange trying to capture her. In her world, the Mohawk defeated the Spanish and presumably prevented the colonization of the New World. How does that affect things in the future? “What if Europe never colonized the Americas” goes way outside of the scope of this show, but how about what happens when Thanos sends Loki to come get the Tesseract? Are there still Mohawk superheroes hundreds of years later to stop him? How about other characters who might have been active in that time like Wen Wu, the Asgardians, or the Eternals? Could Kahorri have a run-in with some of them? And are they establishing a character they plan on using somewhere else, or does she just exist in What If, maybe as a player in the inevitable Captain Carter: Civil War?

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Always so serious

@@reallywish212 indeed. Based. Statement.

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@@mugen9147 haha, I've got to admit, you got me there

A boring Hela episode? That was the best one

@@tmac731 I have to disagree with you. Obviously, you're entitled to your own opinion, but I felt like we just got a repeat of 1x01, where everyone felt like that episode was just Cap 1 all over again, and the new protagonist had the same morals as the old one so it felt like nothing changed. This time, we replace Thor with Hela, who are not as similar, but go through the EXACT. SAME. ARC. This time we also had a different setting (all the Shang-chi stuff), but none of that added anything new to the story. Hela would have redeemed herself with or without Ta-Lo because we all know how the Thor story works, Wenwu didn't add any interesting character moments, and the ten rings (the weapon) weren't used as effectively as in Shang-Chi.

@@niv731 Hela did go through the exact same arc as Thor but since Hela is way more evil than Thor is a bigger character arc for her v her brother who just needed to be humble. Hela needed to learn that killing is not always the answer but that’s all Odin taught her. This episode just proved how shitty of a father Odin is. Hela is a victim and this episode showed us that. Which is why she would go on to liberate the 9 realms from the Asguard empire, Thor didn’t do that. Also, Hela would not have redeemed herself without a Talo because she wouldn’t have known the real reason behind wanting to be free from Odin control without the proper training to the light. “You can’t defeat darkness with more darkness, only light” Hela was not going to learn that in her own. Thor 3 hits different now after this episode

@@tmac731 that doesn't really solve my issue with Hela simply replacing Thor, and by extension the episode as a whole. What you said about Hela is entirely true, but its not improving upon the episode. For example, you said that Hela starts from a lower morality point, which makes her redemption much more powerful compared to Thor's. This is 100% true, but it doesn't change how the story is told in any way, only the pre-established context (I hope that makes sense, I'm not the best at putting my thoughts into words, I can re-explain if needed). Also, the fact that Odin is a horrible parent, and that Hela is a victim of said horrible parenting, was already common knowledge from Thor 1 and Thor: Ragnarok. What this episode DOES do is make Hela the POV character (which does make the victim angle a tad more obvious), but this only makes the storytelling more similar to that of Thor 1. Again, to me, they're too similar, this only proves that. Another point, you say that after this episode, Thor: 3 hits different. But it doesn't expand upon any of the ideas that movie presents. The one in question is that Hela is a good foil for Thor. But the reason they were good foils for each other is that Hela was a representation of the negative aspects of Thor's character pre-arc in Thor 1, because she had the same negative traits. Having Thor beat Hela in that movie works because it proves he recognizes the negativity that once presided in himself. This episode didn't expand on that in any way, all the writers seem to have done was say: "Hey, y'know this great foil for Thor we had, her name was Hela. Anyway, she was a great foil for that new Thor because she was similar to the previous old Thor. Lets have this Hela, who's essentially old Thor, go from old Thor, to new Thor, just like Thor did!" (I'm not saying I know how to write better than actualy writers, this was just a consice way to explain my point) Finally, Thor did protect the 9 realms. He didn't liberate them from Asgard because, in his time, Asgard no longer had direct political control over any of them. But he protects Earth (Midgard) in Avengers 1, we know he protected something between Avengers 1 and Thor 2 because everyone recognizes him in the beginning of the movie, Earth again in AoU, Asgard in Ragnarok, Everything in Avengers 3/4, and went around protecting people in space with the guardians until the opening of Thor 4. And those were only the most obvious examples, he's almost always protecting something. In short, its not a good use of the character of Hela, we've done this before.

​@@niv731 wtf? Get off chat gpt this isn't English class. You are the master yapster

Much as we want it we ain’t ever getting it my boy 😭😭😭😭

Finally, someone not dunking on the finale.

@@wickdaline8668 It was mediocre writing, but there was some fun to be had.

people just wanted to see hela on screen... and who can blame them

+tytebben Really???

@@thealjohnsonshow2188 yep

Honestly I think Echo was better written than Kahhori

Just asking, why do you find Kahhori and Echo compelling to you considering they are not from your exact background? I am from a certain country that also does not get much representation but I won't take every bit of a neighbour country and own that...thats just my pov though, thats why I ask you

That's a difficult question to answer succinctly. An analogy I can think of would be Norse culture reflected in Thor. Norse identity precedes nation-states and ideas of nationality. A person from Denmark shares a pantheon of cultural characteristics with someone from say Sweden or Norway. That identity transcends modern boundaries. The same concept can apply to American Indian/Native American shared identities. This is just my opinion, but I look at us as a nation of nations APART from our identity of "indigenous" people in relation to our colonizers. There are over 500 American Indian tribes with all their own unique cultures and identities, however I see heroes like Echo and Kahhori really transcending all that. Also, no one is saying anything about "owning" any culture. Wakanda is supposedly Uganda. Does that mean an African person in Cameroon can't identify with Black Panther?

@@Kahuilla interesting points. I have always found that a bit racist to say that characters like Kahhori and Echo are native American representation because it takes away from the differences of cultures and checks one box for a big amount of them. I would not be satisfied for instance if the whole of Europe was "represented" by one character and people would call that enough. I find that like if a Belarusian character will be introduced everyone will call it Russian, a bit racist imo but maybe you gave an explanation, not sure if I agree with it but at least you gave one valid example.

@@pokezod7832 Yeah I get your point and maybe it's just not possible to articulate my ideas in a comment thread. There's a lot of deconstructing of ideas that would have to be delved into. Maya and Kahhori are American indigenous people. I'm an American indigenous person. I like seeing the representation of American indigenous heroes in the MCU. It doesn't mean I expect them to reflect my particular tribe or that I co-opt Choctaw or Mohawk identities. It doesn't really have to do with race. Race and racism was never a concept to Amerindians before Europeans arrived.

They released some footage of an episode in season 3 that is about Red guardian and Winter soldier