What if the Jedi Order Survived Order 66 

Darth Vader will not exist

Anakin: I want to be a Jedi master

@@brotherhoodofsteelpaladin5890 take a seat

Mckenzie Africa exactly

A better version... Anakin: Don't kill him! That is not the way of the Jedi. Mace: I don't recall asking you a damn thing Skywalker! *runs the emperor through*

Jaren I mean money right

Jokes actually on you, Alex Guinness is dead and can't tell jokes

No, you are the joke.

@@chrissnyder8415 😪

I feel bad for you. No-one let you know this is last years joke and not funny anymore.

Finally a bit of sanity -_-

Like in legends?

Just like the catholic church

John Salvi ...no, this one needs to end. I mean, if only because contrary to the jedi the central object of their dogma is absent if not nonexistent.

I actually agree with that Instead of strictly adhering with The Light Side or The Dark Side, they should've been more like Jolee Bindo and walked the path of The Grey Jedi who were more like the Jedai and embraced both sides of The Force

Which Ra's Al'ghul, David Warner, Liam Neeson, Alexander Siddig, or Matthew Nable? lol

Bane Braddock Liam Neeson

Aka Quiggon Jinn lol

So proving a sociopathic point by taking a quote from a psychopathic terrorist/mass murderer? .......good.

Thanks Qui Gon

May the force be with his beard always

Generation Tech DA MANLIEST MAN

@@GenerationTech may his beard be with us, always

Ahem.

Also, that Title, Lord Hoth. See, he wasn't just a Jedi General, he was one of the Jedi Lords, a group of Jedi who broke off from the main order and took control of great swaths of the galaxy, which they ruled as a hereditary nobility, with whole dynasties ruling from full on castles for generations

What adds to your ending point was the eventual escape of Abeloth, Darth Krayt’s One Sith order on Korriban, the Lost Tribe of the Sith on Kesh, and the Dark Jedi Joruus C’Baoth on Wayland and his access to Luke’s severed hand and cloning technology makes for an extremely concerning situation if Luke hadn’t sought to bring the Jedi back. If he hadn’t, the overall fate of the Galaxy would be a harrowing nightmare if these various factors had been left unattended.

Whats its name?

@@tevcon317 The Comic's name?

liker 3000 yes

@@tevcon317 Just google ,,Padme Chancellor".

A comic named the lost squadron?Plot: Vader find and kill a Tarkin's son(obiusvly Palpatine said Yes kill Tarkin's son)?

Nimie Redwrench derp face

It’s kind of like food, you don’t eat a balance of healthy food (light side) and junk food (dark side) to stay at your best, you just eat the healthy food

@@infernogolem7533 why are you assuming that the healthy food is the light side

What i learned from kurzgesagt, healthy foods has its own dark side

Jedi : we must bring balance. By stopping the motherf*ckers that are aggressive noisy angsty teenagers that cause war and destruction because they can't keep their force lightning in their pants for two damn seconds, hence causing massive disturbances in the force.

Have to watch out for all my peoples first

@@GenerationTech oh hell yeah! The Emperor protects.

@@TheW0rdMan its shocking how much that walking ball bag protects. Long live the Hutts

The Jedi also believe in absolutes. Just look at their code; it's full of absolutes.

Yoda would prolly outlive both their *sses lmao

If the jedi had not been so blind to darkness in those closest to them, treason among their ranks: - fallen jedi would have been far less successful in back stabbing jedi. - Ashoka Tano would not have been driven out of the jedi. - Ashoka may have been able to divert Anakin from his murderous path. - Palpatine may have been recognized as a sith, or at least not to be trusted, much earlier.

Kyle's wrong the Jedi was right to ban dark side teachings under the republic era with it's regulations there was over 2000 years without a sith incursion splitting the galaxy. Only 20 masters left the order and of them only 2 turned dark side. And every Jedi who does turn at minimum fucks up an entire planetbin the case of Thanatos or assaj but usually the whole galaxy such as dooku revan, exar, ruin, Anakin, krayt, Luke for like 10 minutes, even malak. It literally takes one bozo picking up the wrong glowing pyramid and the whole galaxy gets a lobotomy

@@Akbar_and_Shaa There is indeed a fair logic to the Jedi banning the knowledge of the dark side. But it's also arguable that hiding a section of knowledge as 'forbidden' will incite the curiousness of Jedi and they will secretly get their hands on it one way or another. Instead of experienced Jedi Masters overseeing the education of their members over the evils and lies of the Sith, we have unaware potential Dark Jedi in the making. In order to protect yourself from evil and danger, you need to know what that evil and danger is. Know thy enemy.

@@super_jak ah yes but you must remember had they outright destroyed the dark side materials dooku wouldnt have been tempted to the dark side or at least he wouldn't be as dangerous and competent with it. See every time a force user had tried to go dark sider without training they end up being sloppy and haphazard in there attempts. They end up over extending leaving trails etc. This makes finding out about forbidden study kind of easy since dark side powers act as a beacon without experience in hiding it they can usually intervene and save or eliminate them. For instance Anakin when he uses the dark side becomes incredibly eratic even before embracing the dark side fully and is dealt with by obi wan because he wasn't able to think or focus clearly. Barris due to no access to training in dark powers essentially was just a more unpredictable Jedi acting on irrational emotion ergo bombing for peace. Assaj just killed everything on the planet she thought killed her master. Basically without training everyone nearly universally devolves into dangerous tunnel vision but act more like a cooking fire thats usually noticable after a bit of build up and can be contained where a single trained dark sider is literally a stars nova since they literally can crack the galaxy on their knee. Again even Padawan level Thanatos conquers a planet borderline as a hobby for all the effort it took him with Padawan light side training.

@@Akbar_and_Shaa That still doesn't mean the Jedi cannot teach about the dangers of the dark side. Of course any dangerous Sith artifact that is not of critical use to the Jedi should be destroyed or contained as best they can. But not teaching their members about the nature of Sith teachings and the dark side beyond "It's tempting and dangerous. Stay away from it" is leaving their members unprepared when they do face the dark side head on. On an unrelated note Anakin had already pretty much fully embraced the dark side by the time he choked his pregnant wife. It was his arrogance that led Obi-Wan to victory, not a lack of focus. On the contrary, Anakin had the upper hand for most of the fight and would most likely have won had Obi-Wan not arrive in the exact situation as with him and Maul. He most likely imagined every way that he could have died and was the most prepared to utilize his high ground. I'm guessing Anakin's overconfidence is what you meant by lack of focus. Feelings of betrayal and loss mixed with Obi-Wan's seeming underestimation of his power definitely clouded his judgement. But I would attribute that more to Anakin's deteriorating psychological state than influence of the dark side. Then again aren't all dark siders mentally unstable in some degree?

@@super_jak no I meant what I said with Anakin he goes from save family to kill his old organization to save wife to create empire to kill wife to kill obi wan for padmes situation. He did embrace it but I was saying he had nothing in training with it so he was just a drink hamster in a ball in terms of capacity to reason stop and think. Every non extensivley trained Darksiders have that tunnel vision especially when we look only at cannon they fixate and they can't bend they break. Legends has a couple counter examples but the VAST majority don't do well when mixing the sides. One sith went mad trying and with Luke's less dogmatic teachings within a couple generations the sith re emerge. Whereas Jedi of the galactic republics methods prevented such an event for over 2000 years by teaching about the dark sides nature they just forbade use of it. They still knew of the abilities for instance Yoda Kenobi in movies both can stop sith lightning. The allowing of abilities reliant on using it is the trap since almost no sensitives can use the dark side. For every katarn you have 100s of potential dark Jedi. And might I remind you once people fully embrace the dark side they're doomed. In legends like maybe 12 people could turn back because the dark side warps personalities.

Is revan good or bad

@@stephenperez4476 how much time you got

@@stephenperez4476 Yes

Not a bad idea Palpatine turns it into his imperial palace and does a complete renovation

It became Palpatines Palace on Corucant

bsaint17 Lol

He literally just turned everything that was white and blue black and red 😂

Turned it into papa palpatinines pizza palace

Durante626 where did you catch that?

Bruh when she took that kick I was like nahhh c*** punts work lmao

"Bwaaaah!!!"

And Boomhauer is their Yoda.

"You were my son Bobby, you ain't right" - Hank Hill, Jedi master

The Vneck is the future The Vneck is generation tech

but the logo looked like the republic logo

No i was wrong

The Jedi are Hypocrites... A quote from Obi-Wan: "Only a Sith deals in absolutes"

He was a powerful Jedi. Lived for many years. 😂😂😂

20 plus years under the Sith/Empire, the people in the galaxy would see the Sith as severely bad.

@@arronfrazier7873 most people wouldn't even know the sith and those that did probably just thought they were jedi I'm surprised luke wasn't more hated common people are pretty dumb and they'd see someone welding a glow stick and moving things with their mind and hey that's a Jedi to them doesn't matter if it is or not

It is the same when it becomes clear that the Jedi not wanted to taken Palps prisoner and send him to trial - they were just there to execute him. They decided he had to die and were there to execute him with even the slightes hestitation. Hardly a moral superior position. While they say hatred is from the dark side - how could their reaction to any Sith be seen than pure hatred?

@@marcbartuschka6372 When a sith, that can influence people's minds, and has numerous allies that would do all they can to maintain him in office despite his crimes, tells you in the eye that he won't surrender to be judged... Yeah, you don't have much of a choice. In fact, it was rather dumb of Mace Windu to not just kill Palpatine on the spot, and rather offer him a chance at surrendering.

@@marcbartuschka6372 "In the name of the Galactic Senate of the Republic you are under arrest Chancellor... The Senate will decide your fate" -Mace Windu. The Jedi were only there to arrest Palpatine and he resisted.

@@charliechuckles2195 Oh? Was is not the SAME Mace Windu who just a minute later said to Annakin, Palps is to dangerous to allowed to live? Sound not like anyonw would say who is just there to arrest him...

@@marcbartuschka6372 yea, after Palatine clearly used deadly force to cut down 3 Jedi masters in like 5 seconds demonstrating that he obviously was too dangerous to be left alive. Palatine forced execution when originally he was going to stand trial.

Exactly. Which is why Kreia was correct. The force should die. It's the only way to end the cycle.

@@waraidako Yeah but... No. The cycle would just continue without the force, because the cycle is maintained through sentient lifeforms' flaws, not through the Force's influence. Change every kind of sentient life such that war becomes unthinkable for them, and that diplomacy is always a possibility, and the cycle would end. Do that in the opposite direction and... Well, the cycle would also end, but the galaxy would forever be in a state of war or oppression, or both.

@@nathanjora7627 The constant great galactic wars between the Jedi and Sith only exist because the Force seeks constant balance. On a grand scale these billions of lives don't matter, they're decimal points in the greater whole, but to the worlds and people involved it matters. Without the force, one side could finally win definitively. Jedi like Revan and Skywalker and even Vader don't win because they're such amazing warriors, they win because the force wills it to be so. Without the force, Mandalorians would rule the galaxy.

Gaius Baltar eh... respectively no, yes, but only temporarily, and no. The constant civil war has nothing to do with the force wanting something and everything to do with people wanting something. This something (respectively dominance and peace for the siths and jedi) won’t disappear if you remove the force, it’s just that some weapons and people will be more important than they were, and some will become less important than they were. For the mandalalorians, yes, they would control the galaxy... for as long as they are able to keep power. Which, considering their individualistic and warmongering nature, wouldn’t be more than a few thousand years at best (and probably a couple centuries realistically). That is, if their conquests don’t rebel against them using their massive numerical advantage and the weapons and teachings they would’ve inherited from their new masters. I mean... the people of this world aren’t much different from ours. Did we need the force to have wars ? No, so why assume this galaxy needs them ? All that is needed for a war is a big amount of people wanting something, and a big amount of people determined to not let them have it, which can happen with and without the force. The players would change, not the game. As for the balance and the will of the force... Remember what Obi Wan said ? You can control the force. Meaning that it’s not « just » what the force wills, the will of individuals is there too, and what you said about the Force’s agents successes having nothing to do with their qualities is completely wrong. We know that it has something to do with these, the force gives you greater leverage on the events, it doesn’t disrupt the flow of causality. The force can’t turn a gold warrior bad, or a bad warrior good. If Anakin and the lot managed to do things, it’s because they had the capacities, and the opportunity to use them, not because the force is god, it’s not how it works. In fact, one could say it’s the opposite. The force will give leverage to chosen individuals, as well as non chosen individuals (those that will merely inherit the force by virtue of their parents, or for whatever other reason) until these individuals acquire by themselves the necessary skills to use that power, and sought to do what the force wants. But this doesn’t mean that they have to listen to the will of the force. Furthermore, the balance sought by the force is that of peace and harmony, not « having x amount of dark side and y amount of lightside ».

thunderstudent, true.

Carson B wait you right

I know I saw this and was like if there is a perfectly good old obiwan out there that avtually exists why wouldn't you use it

@@chapstix2549 yeah, don't waste your Obi-Wan's if they they're still servicable!

Because Ewan McGregor is the best Obi-Wan Kenobi

Chara The Chocolate Lover that’s your opinion and I’m okay with that, but Alec Guinness is straight up older obiwan, what’s the point in aging Ewan up when you could just use Alec

Luke’s reformed Jedi, who recognize both sides of the force, rediscovered force healing, and don’t eschew attachment, but rather draw strength from it.

@@jonmkl and was his jedi order purge and both canon and legends. Second the Jedi of an entire wing of force healer. Force healing was never a lost to the jedi.

And actually this should read: Star Wars (1977): the Jedi are heros! -yay- Star Wars (1983): the Jedi did some shady sh** but it’s all good I guess, because Luke proves them wrong and makes better choices. Star Wars (1999): the Jedi are weird hypocritical religious fanatics. Star Wars (2017): the Jedi are heroes again! -yay-

justin amey The Jedi only had a wing of force healers in legends, in the Canon the ancient texts that Luke finds on Ahch-to after the fall of Ben Solo contain the healing technique that Rey learns. Rey, who is Luke and Leia’s student, has all the texts, has now fashioned her own lightsaber, and will continue his order in his name.

Pasha Staravoitau But Luke and Leia lived to train another student, and after the destruction of his first temple was when he searched out the first Jedi temple and the ancient texts. Luke and Leia’s student will continue the order in Luke’s name. You know “I will not be the last Jedi” and all that.

Johannes Siglreithmaier it’s the second amendment

I guess we should just ban the force then?

actually the force is sentient so according to kreia the force does kill people, like a lot

@@revanruler6404 hence anakin balancing the force by wiping out the jedi and sith.

Johannes Siglreithmaier the force doesn’t kill people Purple glow sticks kill people

Mace Windu does say “if what you’ve told me is true, you will have earned my trust” to Anakin when he reports Palpatine. I thought this was pretty explicit in him being made a master if the arrest had gone off without a hitch. Not sure why it has to be theorized about.

Kinda. Because there's an apparrent wish to expell the philosophy of the original six movies in favour of the moronic ideas presented in the sequels.

@@darklord884 orginal six movies....ah yes,the 6 movies - The Old hope,the new hope,The empire dosen't strike back yet,The empire strikes back,The Return of the jedi,the Jedi Fuck off.

@@liker-qd4fz What exactly is your point? Because right now, all I'm seeing is the lack of it. Then again, one can entertain without a point, it just makes thing...nonsensical sometimes.

@@darklord884 I just like to see people make mistakes and exploit them for my own entertainment.

@@liker-qd4fz You also enjoy talking without much sense it seems. Very well then. Keep at it. One day it might actually make an audience laugh.

I cought that to. That little pause. It hurt me too.

If you only knew the apathy of The Grumpy side of the Force ✊

Well the jedi needed to end but atleast end them in a better way.

@@udhavveersinghbhatia9524 the Jedi do not need to end, they needed to be cleansed, restart from the ground up. Go back to the old ways and find true balance In the force like Qui Gon and other Grey Jedi had done, not what the order became. It's why Luke tried something entirely different and I believe it would have worked out far better

blame rian/ruin johnson for the crap script, Mark Hamil completely disagreed with what rian was writing for luke skywalker

the jedi are going to come for said offspring? says who? the jedi, despite the claims of internet people who hate them, do not abduct children. They take them in willingly. There are in fact even jedi who had children. Anakin might be reprimanded, or at worst expelled from the order, although even that I have trouble believing as they would be grateful for all that he had done. But there is no chance, not even a little bit, that they would "come for said offspring" in the sense of attacking anakin and abducting his children. This is a ridiculous scenario which has no basis in anything the jedi do.

No way anakin is the chosen one dude. He’s the best there is. Only at least half the council could kill him at that moment. He killed several masters during knightfall. There’s no way he can die

Len Kagamine Don’t forget Mace’s willingness to break the Jedi Code to kill the Sith Lord. It’s not hard to imagine he would’ve done the same to the most rageful, erratic, reckless and disobedient Jedi Knight at the time.

Nah, white side is best

Inperial knights

The true enemy of all is the force. The force is the thing that has repeatedly thrown the galaxy into chaos. Light side, dark side, grey. All of these are just playthings for the cosmic force to interfere with our lives

Yeaaa little alien parasites inside ya blood lol

I once played through KOTOR 2 staying within the grey the whole game. That was the most fun playthrough I've had of that game :)

I will do what I must

@@Akbar_and_Shaa You you must'n.

Well it’s like in real life , if your arguing like screaming it’ will only creat more tension and further more you will get a fight like to the death 😂

Brodo 21 she and anakin woukd still be alive! With Luke and leía!

Every kick to the nuts is a step closer to the dark side

GAWT DAW MIT, BAWBI

Bobby is gonna force choke Conny only to fight Joseph isn't he

And meth.

@@Michael-hb4wc same thing jsut look at palpys face

palpatine was actually an australian meth addict

If you see 'Bearing' tell him he's a cunt. 😀

Ahh this comment made me lmao 😂 they also cruise around the universe in a VN Commodore

It is technique discovered by Qui Gon just before the movies. Until that point only ones who did have ghosts were the Sith. And fact that Qui Gon was gray Jedi, should make it more clear.

I get the feeling that Revan would have dissipated long before this point in galactic history. From what I've heard, they can only be a ghost for so long before they get fully reintegrated into the force.

If it were legends

I don't think time is fixed as a force ghost

@@Charolette21 incorrect anakin's ghost appeared to cade Skywalker at least a thousand years later

Right

Then Anakin could have seen what could turn him and we see what he would have actually done.

I think he was a bit far gone there’s a balance that can be found and he chose to go live in dathomir they don’t even have the color green there

Generation Tech a BIT Far Gone? He was completely loopy at best

Generation Tech fair point, the only green bois there were the acid spitting bugs and that’s like the green that you have after a night of heavy death stick usage

@@GenerationTech we all can agree that dathomir is the last place anyone would go for a family vacation.

Malicos was well intentioned extremist that became a full on extremists simply because he lived on basically a bottomless pit of the dark side for years. It would be like if Qui-Gon lived inside the cave at Degobah.

BlackEpyon that would still hurt though

@@robertbartley2409 Agree bu Bobby was not very strong so Peggy could tank the damage and pretend that the kick didn't do anything.

Hektols he should have worn a boot

Actualy they are along with the sith part of the problem is like 2 side of a patsan polotics clusterfuck, both sides made a efort to became the oposide of each other in every aspect. The sith are evil? Well no shit shelock the darl side eats away your compassion bostering you sociphatic tendencies so of course they are. But the jedi are terrible teachers, like their aswer to every conflict was sit on your ass repress your emotions, ignore the problem, ask a piscologist or a psycatrist if this work, att best you got a mace windu kind of caracther, an inssentive hypocrite ho leaks his iner conflict unknowingly and be a all around preacy asshole, at work you contribute to the fall of the chosen one and rise of darth vader, kenobi was the alomaly due his masters teachings

@@MrRobot-0 I don't have an idea of what the fuck you're saying,but listen to me. The sith basicly use the jedi's tactics to destroy the jedi.When you hoot at someone with a colt 1911,expect them to come back with a shotgun.

@@liker-qd4fz you know the concept tread necromancy? 4 months dude.

@@MrRobot-0 the jedi don't make world destroying planets. They are awful and complicit in a corrupt system, I dont deny it, but everything wrong with the republic was exponentially worse under the empire

@@MauroEnfermoDeLepra well time to call te paladins another necromancer

You would've never been strong enough to join them😂

@@showtubes3532 being a jedi isnt about strength tho

Taken by the Empire, the Temple itself was converted into the Imperial Palace

How do you stop a war that has already began? Not by sitting down and proclaiming "F@ck you, go away." that's for sure.

More like dodgy death sticks.

It does have a good point to make. That people who don’t understand Star Wars lore shouldn’t be making Star Wars movies.

the thing is, that is exactly one of the things that creates the conflict and controversy of the clone wars. its what drives the story for ahsoka and her reasons for leaving the order and develops her character that much more. I agree that force users are not good for military command because they lack the military mindset and efficiency that leaders like thrawn and yularen had. all these personalities of groups being added to the story of starwars is exactly what makes starwars so rich and creates such an expansive mind. to conclude, starwars in make you do big brain stuff

Why didn't you just use Sebastian Shaw for Anakin and instead of Hayden Christensen

Imperial knights

Not crazy. Disney. That's even worse.

@@darklord884 i like the new cannon the sequels ehh idk i was expecting to see the new jedi order but maybe next time🤷‍♂️