What If the Loyal Clone of Fulgrim Returned to the Imperium? | Warhammer 40k Lore 

Yes this is a reupload, Erebus (or probably Timmy) messed with the previous uploads audio and ruined it from the 7 min mark onwards, just when it was getting interesting. As I was visiting family for the weekend, I couldn't do a rapid reupload so here we are, if you have already watched it then plz watch again to please the algorithm gods. As for the Calendars, the legendary edition is officially sold out, with there being 48 hours left to secure yourself either an A4, A3 or digital : majorkill.com/

I think it's just as possible that Trazyn shows up and goes 'OI, Gulliman I got a surprise for ya.

Huzzah, the noise marines have been banished

Clonegrim: *exists* Daemon Primarch Fulgrim: "Is that me? Is that me stronger and more handsome than me?... I'LL F***ING KILL ME!!!"

Can’t help wandering what would have happened if a full strength iron hands were around in the HH. Such an underrated legion! Damn you traitor Fulgrim!

"God damn it Timmy, stop fu**ing with the audio" Majorkill, probably

Clonegrim coming back to the Imperium really is such a potentially compelling storyline that GW will sit on and do nothing with.

I see you purged the noise marines

There’s a great comic short of Clonegrim and Papa Smurf meeting, and Roboute mentions his scar and the fight between him and the original Fulgrim. Clonegrim says he does, and he always remembers being pretty sure Guilliman knew how to duck. There’s a pause, and then Guilliman starts laughing.

In my mind it should go like this: after a long battle between Guilliman and Clongrim against Fulgrim, Guilliman decides that it is better to just execute Clongrim, because he might get corrupted again and because of Clongrims nobility he allows it, and as Guillimans sword is about to strike, a headless Legionary of the damned appears out of nowhere, and blocks the strike, thus redeeming Clongrim.

Majorkill was stabbed by the Anathema, and in his coma the chaos gods convinced, whispered dark secrets into his ear. This caused him to break up with his real life girlfriend

Rylanor returning as a spirit of vengeance fighting alongside Clonegrim is the only thing I would ask for in a story like this, and you delivered

Oh crap, sorry to hear about the breakup. But glad to see you're going strong dude.

An ending i love to think about is when Clonegrim and Fulgrim duel, Fulgrim is faced with everything he knows he could be and he comitts all his power and new ability to killing his clone. But then Ferrus manus appears as leader of the legion of the damned and assists clonegrim and saying how happy he is that his brother finally returned. This completely breaks Fulgrim, to see his greatest regret and the future he lost. He is fully lucid and his death is more like a mercy killing. Then fulgrim returnd to the imperium and leads not only his gene sons but the gene sons of Ferrus.

What if Robute Guilliman found Angron before he was implanted with the butcher's nails?

7:20 Perturabo: Hello, Lion Lion: Hello, Perty Perturabo: Can I have dees super weapons? Lion: r u Tr8or? Perturabo:....... ..... No..... :) Lion: Okay. Here u go. Perturabo: |:)) Lmao.

Imho it doesn't matter if Guilliman is depressed or not, he'd still show up even if he thought it was a trap because he'd have to find out who has that knowledge, how they got it, and what they were planning. Not saying he wouldn't show up with a full brotherhood of Grey Knights along with half a chapter of smurfs, some Sisters of Silence and a couple Custodes waiting in the warp with teleport homers ( I think his forced nappy time taught him a lesson) but he'd show up.

Imagine a loyalist Fulgrim, uncorrupted by Chaos, seizing control of his chaotic legion from Slanesh, and leading a chaos legion for the glory of the Imperium.

I'd like to imagine that if Clonegrim was given the green light to go, he'd have to constantly have to keep under the inquisitor's radar, maybe even some of the other chapters. He'd literally be doing a penitence crusade on the extremely hard difficulty.

The moment Rylanor was mentioned I was completely down for this.

Words can't explain how much I love your what ifs. Also imagining revived Rylanor cookign Slutgrim again is way too good

Could also add in the Ynarrie taking the fuck storm that would result from Clonegrim and Snakegrim fighting for them to try to get that Last Khrone sword that is in Slanesh house.

Clothed Majorkill = best Majorkill

I gotta say this is your strongest "what if" yet. Very well grounded in lore and not far from a black library plot. Well done mate.

"And he conjures up a dreadnought, Rylanor-" Dead ass when I heard that I started screaming wahhahahah

Absolutely agree that Rylanor is an absolute must if Clonegrim makes a comeback, and if he's present at the Clonegrim versus Snakegrim climax, we all know that this ends only one way: With Wilson the Virus Bomb suddenly and rather violently manifested right into Snakegrim's cloaka.

maan this redemption adventure aside from being a sick story or novel is actually kind of a sick plotpoint for a wargammer game where we play as the cloned primarch and redeem ourselves

You know how each loyalist primarch that returned got a piece of big E's gear (sword and shield). I believe if Clonegrim returned to fight for the Imperium he would've gotten big E's codpiece

oh hey its back

The Reupload has better audio, good one mate 👍

I think that Clonegrim, If he ever escapes? May try to save his legion or get a chapter of his sons to help him, but what do you guys think

It would be quite the twist if loyal fulgrim is the next primarch to return. I suspect he wouldn’t be accepted and he’d be like the space marine chapters who are loyal but rejected. I could see him gathering them up into a pseudolegion.

I imagine the battle between Clonegrim and Snakegrim going similar to how Gulliman’s and Mortarion’s went. Snakegrim will have Clonegrim on the back foot and defeat seemingly inevitable. Snakegrim then tries to corrupt Clonegrim, offering him his same power to side with chaos. Clonegrim won’t give in however and will echo the same words Rylanor said so many centuries ago: “I reject you now and for always.” At this the reborn Rylanor will burst into white flames and become an aspect of The Emperor, healing Clonegrim of whatever wounds he received while fighting Snakegrim, then turning his attention to Snakegrim and blasting him with his full psychic might, obliterating him a la Horus while also severely damaging Slannesh’s realm and hitting Slannesh right in the dickgina. Fulgrim ( calling him that now since he’s the only one left) then goes and to find Fabius Bile to force him to make another Ferris clone, not to try to corrupt this time but in an attempt to bring him back to life.

I know this is talking about canon, but I help but picture this in the TTS verse. Though it would still be super emotional.

My head cannon is that the clone has his actual soul, and the daemon primarch, is still the daemon from the layer blade possessing his body.

Alright, I was onboard, happily listening along until Rylanor came out of nowhere with a freaking steel chair. Kicked the badassery up to 11 with that one mate.

It would be also interesting, if there was a B plot about hunt for Fabius Bile, so he could create another Primarch and he'd say, that Clonegrim was an anomaly and he has no idea how to make another before escaping.

I actually love that idea. It is totally bonkers! A clone Fulgrim, forming a band even shadier then the 200,000 Alpharius's in The Alpha Legion. Btw that artwork is fcking superb man!

I think that Clonegrim, If he ever escapes? May try to save his legion or get a chapter of his sons to help him, but what do you guys think?

I want clonegrim in the main lore. He'd be so fun in apocalypse.

I'd love to see a loyal clone Fulgrim coming to the Imperium and come to both aid the Imperium, wanting to bring back culture and art, and to come confront his corrupted self. Here's other good what if scenarios: Rogal Dorn and Leman Russ coming back or what if the 2 lost Primarchs did return and what can they do for the Imperium.

I've had my own head cannon for this for awhile but this video blows it out of the water!

I HAVE BEEN WAITING MAJORKILL.

He could return, reborn like a phoenix... and should without a doubt wield the fireblade reforged in the warp carrying the flaming wrath of Ferrus Manus

Would love to see Clonegrim Vs rape snake in the current setting.

Not fair the ultramarines have unlimited geneseed with the return of rouboute.

I hold on to the headcannon that it was fulgrim was the one trapped in painting and the daemon tricked the legion into thinking he was the real fulgrim and the sorrow that comes from fulgrim from being trapped in the painting and he own legion thinking he would truely embrace this depravity was causing untold pain and anguish not just cause his legion would believe he would fall so far but also can’t really blame them for believing he would fall so far after he killed ferrus

Sorry to hear about the breakup. Onward to new adventures and discoveries!

Sorry about the break up, mate. Kinda love the what-if vids, though my faves are established lore.

This would be a really compelling story for 40k and a unique situation that they could use for the table top.

No censorship by the Inquisition now. Finally we get to hear this delicious video.

love this idea, wish they would do it, mainly because, Clonegrim v Lucious, where the Clone disarms or puts Lucious on his knees and instead of killing him gives him to Rylanor, a Deamon of the Emperor, not able to be corrupted, and the man who created him being Big E, so it could be Lucious last death

The Iron Hands would mobilise the whole legion and successors to kill him, OR capture Fabius to clone Ferrus for them, OR, maybe Trazin got the clone Fulgrim so that he can figure out how to clone Ferrus out of Necrodermis. I feel like if even a clone of Fulgrim were to come back and Guilleman were to welcome it, the IH would not be down and would go renegade. But if you read about Deathwatch Master of the Forge Xerill, there is a very interesting thread of info about a certain necron artifact he found. I feel like if Ferrus is to return, the necrons will indeed play a part.

I think the part of Big G-Man and Clonegrim meeting, with the little trial of the later to make sure he isn't some Chaos stuff is fantastic, as well as the meeting with the Emperor, and of course, Rylanor coming back as part of the Legion of The Damned. Persobally, I think Clonegrim is gonna be a tool, more or less, for a future introduction to Fulgrim, these two fighting in a book kinda like Morty and G-Man or Johnson and Angron sounds fantastic, if there's a chance that the Emperor's Children are wiped out of the galaxy, with Clonegrim being the leader of this reborn Legion, that plot have my vote, but is just too good to be true.

I think him making the audio cooked in the first upload was intentional then he purged it in the next, like noise marines metaphorically being vanquished by the righteous

I believe the Sons of the Phoenix was officially (by a writer) confirmed that it was indeed Imperial Fist successor

We need our uncorrupted purple🟣 bois back! Hope you kid MK, the lass of your seems(ed) like a keeper and kinda badass🤘

A video of the top ten community made wholesome moments would be great

I see Rylanor, I like video. Good job!

I am currently watching this on saint patriks day in the local pub in Tipperary on saint patricks day, partaking in the worlds longest wake. Godblees you all happy Saint Patrick's Day

Thanks for fixing the audio I really wanted to be able to listen what you had to say about this one❤

He would definitely go after OG Fulgrim himself, I can already imagine a "The Phoenix and the Wyrm" title to go along with it.

As the battle rages the clone and the daemon fight, the is disarmed by the speed of the daemon, and now he is lifted by one of the daemon's hands, clasping at it's neck. "You and that fool of an ancient dared to stand against me! I am Fulgrim, not you! I am the rightful leader of the third, not you! I am..." The daemon was thrown dropping the clone upon the ground as a miughty blow from the side hit it. From behind where the daemon had stood was a warrior, not unlike the Ancient of Rights. The clone could not look at him he immediately knew who it was by those hands of his. "Get up, brother." though the words were said with sincerity, the clone felt nothing but shame at them. Yet he did as he was bid by the warrior. He took up his battle stance and the warrior took up a complementary stance. They had done this many times. The daemon recovered, and saw the worst thing his most glorious of eyes had ever seen. The daemon sneered, "You accept him over me! I am the original!" It said as it lunged at the two of them seeking to right past wrongs. The battle would be hard fought, if not for the wound Rylanor had given the daemon the Phoenix would not have been able to destroy the daemon. As the battle ends, the foul among the third legion are cleansed and the the Gorgon begins to vanish. Fulgrim, Reborn thanks his brother, pledging to bring him back and correct this last mistake. His men stand there, ready for orders. Fulgrim stands before them, and looks upon them all with determination in his eyes, "We are the Emperor's Children, let us go and do great works in my Father's name. Let us the phoenixes rise and cleanse this corrupt galaxy of the taint we so foolishly allowed in." With those words the men would cheer, with those words Slaanesh would gain another great enemy, with those words, a truth would be revealed, it is possible to be cleansed from the taint of Chaos, it is possible to win.

That would be wild

Super solid video! Gonna subscribe for this. I want more of these! What if Sanguinius comes back how Guilliman will act ect?

Best video I’ve heard from you in a while. This will be an amazing story. I literally got goosebumps thinking about the meeting between Gman and fulcrums.😂

Great video! As I commented on the first upload, here Iam watching it again. I love these what if scenarios. The flipped heresy videos are my most rewatched.

I love the idea of Rylanor being in this. CloneGrim and Rylanor could eventually reconcile. This would be an epic story. CloneGrim should win. It gives him a chance to help Roboute fix the Imperium. Guilliman really needs the help.

I think we need More what ifs of traitor primachs coming into the fold

I think the emperor’s claw would be a better fit as the Phoenix claw because ofc he’d rename it for himself

This is my favorite kind of your videos, you’re a damn good storyteller.

The noise marines have been eliminated and the video was saved 😂

When you mentioned Rylanor it gave me mad chills

It's about time you made this video

It would difficult to sell on paper but I think it would so cool from a storytelling perspective if clone Fulgrim renounced his legion and joined the iron hands in an attempt at redemption for killing his brother and with their help hunting down the emperor’s children. And slowly fulgrim in honor of ferrus tries bringing back the teachings of Ferrus about accepting organic flesh

Thanks for the re-upload

Please make this a series !

A the noise marines have left us this time

I think that Clonegrim should win, as one such great redemption story would be great but also wouldn't magically make the setting suddenly all sunshine and rainbows, just a bit more grimbright in some ways.

Right off the bat, a picture of Primarch Fulgrim

This is great work !

The noise marines have been defeated for this video

My personal headcanon would be similar, I do like the idea of his emperor's weapon being the bolter, an uneligant ranged weapon to teach imperfection and distance My personal change was that instead of finding loyalist ECs we put him not in leadership but custody of his would be biggest neighsayers. The Iron Hands A legion without a primarch, one who would undoubtedly kill clonegrim the second he steps out of line. But clonegrim could also teach them that maybe there is still strength in flesh as his has decided to prove its loyalty. Instead of reviving Rylenor how about clonegrim, now with the master forgers. Repairs and old Battlerobot that nobody could fix and name it after Rylenor or Saul Tarvitz

10.31 man, i haven't even thought of that! that's awesome!

Gulliman would be the last person id want to see if i was Fulgrim after giving him a 10k year nap

The clone Fulgrim coming to the Imperium to help would boost morale and greatly cause a change for a few space marine chapters. And somewhere in the middle of this event, you hear the real Fulgrim damning the clone and Guiliman as they rally others to their cause.

This was surprisingly brilliant! What a great story this would be no matter how it ended.

Clonegrim slaying Lucius the Eternal would be the only way to truly kill the traitorous Astartes, at least in my mind aside from specially made demon-slaying weapons. Clonegrim, with all the memories of Fulgrim, would only feel utter sadness at the death of his children. There would be no pride in the killing, only shame in the depravity he (Fulgrim) had allowed his legion to fall to.

I wish we’d see something like this so bad. I loved loyal Fulgrim.

Man’s dedication and passion to the calendar is inspirational

Excellent video!

Imagine him joining the Imperium and ending up fighting against the actual Fulgrim.

I don't know much about other channels but your commissioned art Pieces are dopo! Cheers

Rylanor as a body guard would be the shit. He has the biggest balls in all of 40k, his default is no fucks to give.

Theres actually a fanfic of this on reddit, it was a bit much at times but enjoyable and tries to stick to canon

Thx the audio is ok

Omg ya finally did it!!!

The Phoenix and The Phonecian is such an obvious must-do its not even funny anymore.

Great story outline. I would read that.

If this actually happened he would be tasked with commanding the Iron Hands I’m telling you right now. He would have to replace the brother he had slain, and it’s also the only chapter Guiliman could 100% trust wouldn’t turn on the imperium due to trickery. It would have to be treated like an Aang gang and Zuko thing where they immediately resist and it takes a whole series for them to finally accept him in some way and through Fulgrim he could take what he knows of his own legion destroying and reshaping their bodies for perfection and apply that to the Iron Hands and show them that flesh is not always weak and to trust the organs and genetics their forefather passed down onto them. In this way Fulgrim would also atone for betraying his best friend. Just my headcannon tho.