When there is no God above the state, the state becomes god (By definition, an idol, a false god)-the highest authority in the lives of those governed. If God is dead, everything is permitted.
"We revere this lesson too much soon to forget it. Who does not see that the same authority which can establish Christianity, in exclusion of all other Religions, may establish with the same ease any particular sect of Christians, in exclusion of all other Sects? That the same authority which can force a citizen to contribute three pence only of his property for the support of any one establishment, may force him to conform to any other establishment in all cases whatsoever?"
"Whilst we assert for ourselves a freedom to embrace, to profess and to observe the Religion which we believe to be of divine origin, we cannot deny an equal freedom to those whose minds have not yet yielded to the evidence which has convinced us. If this freedom be abused, it is an offence against God, not against man: To God, therefore, not to man, must an account of it be rendered."
@@doodleprophet Just so! Our Creator, who is Sovereign, permitted false prophets to live in Israel and false teachers to live among his people even today.
@@chipseal9403 "Because experience witnesseth that ecclesiastical establishments, instead of maintaining the purity and efficacy of Religion, have had a contrary operation. During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity, in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution. Enquire of the Teachers of Christianity for the ages in which it appeared in its greatest lustre; those of every sect, point to the ages prior to its incorporation with Civil policy. Propose a restoration of this primitive State in which its Teachers depended on the voluntary rewards of their flocks, many of them predict its downfall. On which Side ought their testimony to have greatest weight, when for or when against their interest?"
Anyone ever looked up the painting that is in the dome of the US Capitol? It's called "The Apotheosis of Washington" (the elevating of Washington to a god). We may print "In God We Trust" in our money, but it does not say WHICH God...... And the painting makes it pretty clear......
I'm new to the topic of Christian Nationalism. I just picked up your book and have found the first bit very interesting. I'm curious about what connection it may have to Greg Bahnsen's Theonomy in Christian Ethics. Thanks for the video.
The faith has a recipes for chemical abortion and is currently teaching it to all their daughters along with wearing steel anti-rape belts. Receive data from that southerner religion sometimes. The faith can only get away with so many rapist execution's. Some of their allies are considering putting their children as young as 10 on birth control in the case of rape or child molestation and very much are siding with the ideal of anti-rape gear to help protect their sisters, mothers, daughters, wives, friends. Something the faith has been doing for years. Both groups will vote left on this issues when before most of their votes was for time limits. Conservatives forced to vote for Biden. Someone that both religious groups cannot stand. Both have formalized their agreement and will attempt to create a independent conservatives party that will agree with the left on abortion and woman's rights except to do with certain kinds of sexual perversions. A liberal conservatives party and both are in favor of legalizing segregation. Both have agreed to no longer play both parties games at the expense of them or their children. To put it in plain speech, translates into both of you can go fly a kite and will continue to support law and order. Both also agreed to no longer allow themselves being conned by flashy words like racist and will stick to their own racial or ethnic group. Both religions will now work together towards common cause. Currently their only two ways to get them to swing right, abandons the anti-abortion extremism or make rape punishable by the death penalty and the faith also want anybody who aids the rapist to suffer the same fate man or woman that includes selling rape drugs. The two religions are hoping to pick up a third religion later next year. Two are considered Christian the 1st normally lists itself as Christian called the faith. The Christian believes in angels and the faith in moral being made of light called light elves. The faith is smaller then the two Christians groups but better funded with more educated members. The faith is unlikely to have more then 8-10 million members in the USA and are well organized and are not to be confused with pagans or heathens and their populations are more concentrated in the south with colonization points on maps for when moving or relocating. The faith can normally collect this information at their churches, data bases and from the organization. The information is only giving to their members.
"I am for freedom of religion and against all maneuvers to bring about a legal ascendancy of one sect over another." --Thomas Jefferson, letter to Elbridge Gerry, January 26, 1799
No nation wants God's will to be done in earth, but their own will. They will murder, steal, lie, and do ANYTHING in their power to maintain their OWN sovereignty. Always have.... That's why Jesus stated that those following him would not be a part of that world and could be identified by the LOVE they show. People pray for God's Kingdom while sacrificing their children to the gods of war. They praise the Prince of Peace with their mouths while supporting those in direct opposition.
Christian Nationalism seeks a different messiah than Jesus. Jesus was tempted by Satan in the desert with authority to rule the whole world. He chose the way of the servant, the way of the cross, the way of loving your enemy and changing the world through nonviolent love. Christian Nationalism says “let’s take that deal”. Jesus rebuked Peter when he cut off the Roman soldier’s ear with his sword and healed him even though he was on his way to an excruciating death on the cross. A Sunday law will bring the mark of the beast eventually
@@steamgp8774 So, you worship the day not the one who created the Day. We worship, follow, are lead by Jesus the Son of the Most High. We recognize Jesus in all aspects of our lives including "politics". You are telling Him to stay out.
@@Youngonce01 Christian Nationalism seeks a different messiah than Jesus. Jesus was tempted by Satan in the desert with authority to rule the whole world. He chose the way of the servant, the way of the cross, the way of loving your enemy and changing the world through nonviolent love. Christian Nationalism says “let’s take that deal”. Jesus rebuked Peter when he cut off the Roman soldier’s ear with his sword and healed him even though he was on his way to an excruciating death on the cross. A Sunday law will bring the mark of the beast eventually
@@steamgp8774 I am sorry.. All I am seeing you write is DAY worship not Jesus worship. Jesus is the Way, The Truth, The LIGHT, no man cometh to Father but through Jesus. Not DAY worship. You need to repent and believe upon Jesus as Lord and Savior. He is our King not Man which you seem to be pushing also.
The church is the best example of what I was always taught the United States stood for, just as God doesn't discriminate whom He covers with His blood all nationalities are welcome to come with no exceptions. I'm not talking open boarders as the liberals do but while all other religions mostly center on race Christianity shows that God is no respecter of persons. I know we as a nation fall short of this principle and are strict in allowing some while others are welcomed without exception, but the principle should be the goal. Some how I think what I'm hearing described as "Christian Nationalism" is the opposite of what I just described. If you guys are trying to push things in the direction of a theocracy you're doing more harm than good and if there's any truth to the talk of Kinsism wrapped up with this then you're actively promoting a thing that God has not commanded, nothing but evil will come of it.
@ᴠᴇɴᴜs ʙʟᴏᴏᴅғʟᴏᴡ No country on earth has open borders, it's suicide to do so.No way to put a stop to human trafficking is one of the main reasons not to mention drugs and weapons. You can get angry at me all you like for disagreeing with you but the world is not a safe and friendly place, you'd know that if you ever stepped outside your bubble.
Hello, excuse me, I have a question. I'm a Christan who serves the Lord and worships as the Bible commands of the Saturday Sabbath that God ordained at the end of the Creation Week. So if the State makes it a point to restrict work on Sunday and decrees every other day of the week, what am I to do? Shall I disobay and disrespect Jesus Christ by consciously disobeying His law and shunning His Sabbath? What shall become of me if I choose to serve God and disobay this blasphemous law?
@@rollinghillsslo Exactly. Now is the time to give ourselves over the the will of the Holy Spirit, daily pray in ernest, and beg for the power to resist sin, so that Christ may mold us to His character so that we may be made perfect candidates for Heaven, and be able to stand during the Time of Trouble.
@@lloydmckay3241 Correct. By the self-procliamed authority of the Church, the early Christians changed the day of worship. I do not recognize the authority of the church as superseding the authority of God.
It’s a whole other can of worms. We won’t be battling a secular government but we will be battling a heresy/ Phariseetical one. Either way, obey God. And be absolutely certain which day is the true sabbath. Not because of what a teacher says but because of what Gods word says. Read the Bible from front to back and see what it says.
If Christians are allowed to do politics, than it could be reasoned that their politics should be based on Christian ethics and a Christian view of the public good. As it is the mission of the Church to make more Christians and to make those that are more Christian in their daily life, by proxy it is the Churche's mission to make the nation(s) more Christian, which opens the door to so-called Christian Nationalism if you allow a Christian involvement in politics and legislation at all.
But the church is a different institution than the state, correct? All institutions have a mandate to obey God's law, not merely the church. Or do you believe God limits Himself to being glorified only inside a some buildings on one or two days out of the week?
@YOSUP315 God will be glorified by all of creation, yes. But it is never cited in Scripture as the church's mission to force society to worship. Not once. We are to win souls. We do not mandate secular institutions.
@@lauramckinney9896 does Stephen say in this video that the church as an institution is the one that's supposed to do that? I thought he was saying every institution and not merely the church is to glorify and follow God's ways
Stephen, my father, John McConnell, was a Christian who was what many would call an idealist. He started what was known as the Global Earth Day. He was a pacifist and strove for peace, justice and the care of earth. Your words remind me of him in his heart for Christ's kingdom to come on earth. But we are called to be in the world, but not of it. We look for a new country, a new kingdom not made by human hands. There are many forces that do not want Jesus Christ to be Lord, though He is and will ever be Lord. Even at the start of this country, freedom was exalted above service to Christ. It seems to me you desire for all to know the hope, peace, justice, safety found in Christ and that is well and good, but this country is made up of many, many people, some under the label of Christian, that do not wish the Lordship of Jesus Christ. Some are blind or have not truly heard or seen the love of God. Others have tasted and seen, but the various temptations of idolatry to intellectualism, excitement, money, not trusting in Christ for salvation, but rather their own works, have caused their light to dim or even die. People complain about the poor throughout the world, but won't give up their Starbucks, let alone sell all they have and let go of their greed to bring the poor what they need. We give our extra, but not the widow's mite. There is no scriptural basis to force others or demand others in our country to make this country all followers of Christ. Christ came to seek and save that which was lost, not overturn the Roman empire, though it was overthrown. God didn't call Daniel to demand King Nebuchadnezzar to repent every day he served him. But Daniel's faithfulness was evident and his respect, and his respect, and his respect for the ungodly king opened the door for a loving, ahem, loving, did I mention loving witness and rebuke. There are forces in the spirit realm that deceive. Like the fortune teller that walked before Paul saying true things, that they had come to tell people about God's kingdom, this evil spirit latched on to the apostles to glorify itself thru them. But Paul discerned the spirit and cast it out of the woman. Right words, wrong spirit. There are many spirits speaking to the children of God now, even as the devil spurred King David on to number the people. Where is the voice leading - towards the love of Christ and His reconciliation with sinful man thru his blood - or away from it? How do we discern? By the fruit: gentleness, compassion, mercy, self control, faithfulness to God's truth, agape love that pulls the adulterous woman out from her righteous attackers (where was the man caught in adultery? the law said both were to be stoned...), the God who called Pharisees like Nicodemus and tax collectors like Matthew, who did not entrust himself to men, for He knew the heart of man who one day cry, Hosanna! and the next, Crucify! The nation of America has not been Christian for many years. We are no longer under God, but were we really under Him to begin with? If our Christian nationalism has at the root a desire for our material safety and wellbeing and a motive to keep from being persecuted, we're missing the cross. He didn't take over Rome. He didn't kill the centurians or even those who turned Him over to them, their guilt, like our lack of love, was great, but His love was greater. And so a cross and the words, Father, forgive them for they know not what they do. God will never force anyone into heaven. The battle since the garden, is that of love. God's love calling out to be believed. Is there judgement? Of course, you see mercy and judgment at the cross. So which has worse sin, the immoral or the one who knows the cross but refuses to love the immoral? The unbeliever, or the one who claims Christ but does not share that powerful love with the unbeliever? The godless nation, or the people of God who do not act in respect, love and powerful grace to that godless nation, but choose their own wealth and safety over the suffering and persecution of following Christ. If the Queen of Sheba will rise up against the people of Jesus day, and I'm very curious what will happen in the day of judgment when the Christians that are persecuted in China and North Korea, in Afghanistan and other countries stand up in the day of judgment and are met with our christians. The Christians in the West I confess I've been quite scared about it. Personally. My life hasn't been that great. I found need for repentance. I wouldn't strive for Christian nationalism. I would lay that down at the Cross of Christ and strive simply to follow him and love the people in this world and in this country. Because we are members of the kingdom of heaven and this world is not our home. Those are just my thoughts. No more no less. May God grant you Grace, and may you not be ashamed when you see Him.
Well said. the "Christian" Nationalism spoken of is completely one-sided. It would encourage Natzi Germany and Communist China and Cuba and all the OTHER nations the USA so desperately despises (except for the plethora of goods that maintains it's way of life...) to do the same: Love, support, and pledge allegiance to them by the mere reason of place of birth. Peter announced that in EVERY nation the man who fears God and works righteousness is acceptable to him. Should those of one nation kill those of another who are acceptable to God because the nation chosea conflict that is often justified by lies and propaganda? Hardly..... It is good to hear others stand up for truth and let God handle his own matters in his own time!
Yes, the Seventh day is Saturday not Sunday We've been conditioned to think Sunday is the day of worship, But actually God blessed the Seventh day at creation when that day was over, to hallow it and set it apart as a holy day... forever (Genesis 2:2-3). If i will sing the USA hymn at the Australia flag it will be correct just because a flag is a flag and both are made with same material?? NO!! the correct flag is important... the correct day is important...AND THE SABBATH IS THE FLAG OF GOD...let's have logic and stop signing to the SUNday flag as if it's the sabbath one just because it becomes a tradition but it will never replace the original one commandment
Christian Nationalism seeks a different messiah than Jesus. Jesus was tempted by Satan in the desert with authority to rule the whole world. He chose the way of the servant, the way of the cross, the way of loving your enemy and changing the world through nonviolent love. Christian Nationalism says “let’s take that deal”. Jesus rebuked Peter when he cut off the Roman soldier’s ear with his sword and healed him even though he was on his way to an excruciating death on the cross. A Sunday law will bring the mark of the beast eventually
No Christian should say that jailing heretics is out of the question in principle, but I do think there may be certain circumstances in which it would not be prudent.
@@nathanphillipsgo So a Christian nation wouldn’t uphold the first few commandments? Other faiths would be welcome to practice and worship within a Christian nation?
"The love of country..." and the like? What does love of country have to do with anything when we're talking about defining the rules of behavior that we must respect or be judged for? When we're talking about a country that defines a society, laws are what count. And the laws that count are the ones that people make. If a large group of people decides there's a god and a god has made a rule for behavior and we all decide it's a good rule That must have judgment and consequences defined that people mete out, then we write those rules into the laws. We don't write in that the law or even the idea came from a god. We just decide the law is a good idea.
@@jan-matthisweng4437 Except that Christian nationalism claims a god is defining and driving it all, which means that anybody who's able to convince the populace they know the mind and desires of a god nobody can point to gets to be the winner. The advantage of society that's not claimed to be based on God starts with the assumption that people make the morals and the rules, so they at least start from a position of honesty and truth.
@@bobbabai People who believe there is a god (or gods) and that there are divine standards for right and wrong and for good and bad behaviour, and that it is legitimate to base politics and laws on those standards, obviously don't agree with the assumption you stated: That it is (or, more precise, should be) PEOPLE that "make the morals" (in a normative sense, the, obviously, do so in a practical one).
Sunday Worship? Sorry, Christians can be Sabbath-keepers too. Sunday is NOT God's Sabbath. There is no reference of the 10 Commandments in the Bible changing God's Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. That was started by Constantine in 539 AD and then completed by the Papacy, complete with prosecutions. The Mark of the Beast "will seek to change times and laws" Daniel 7:25, and the Papacy has done both...changed the Sabbath to Sunday and then said they had the authority to change that law.
This American republic , practicing democracy , was never intended to be a " Christian nation". Jesus was never mentioned, God was, but not in 99% of the documents , nor in much of the Constitution, which wisely separated the secular and the " religious" . If you know any history, you know why they did that. But your contexts are so very limited to your own programming and limited understanding of the wonders of being human , focusing on the dark sides which you won't heal your own within. THAT is the test you refuse to take responsibility for , but prefer to project them onto others and then pull out the " Devil " as a " get out of jail free card " for your own darkside of human nature. Which God created too. There is nothing nor no one God did not create. We are ALL his kids. Most of us " Christians" find your tactics, level of understanding, ways and means not only despicable, but sadly phobic about a culture that can use the love but not the judgements you hurl daily , along with misinformation about your own religion. You are no more chosen than any others in God's creation . Your experiences in life seem to be ignorant of much true faith, preferring some aberration of it , unlearned about mankind, and Jesus. Pharisaic is more applicable. More focused upon the Old Testament and Paul. You are ignorant of the 1000 other sects , going back 2 millennium , and how many alterations were made by misinterpretations and mis translations. Mostly on purpose by rulers and emperors and kings to manipulate the masses of poor . Yet you want to enforce your particular " nationalistic " version upon all ? Blasphemous. Your paranoia , hatred and little bubble white version of mankind, is glaringly odious to those of us who do not find your variation worthy of Christ nor God. I see why Jesus said " you know not what you do" , and why he preferred sinners who wanted help, instead of ego maniacal control of others, mis using his words to claim some pious self righteousness. This is how the rest of the Christian world sees you . A blip on the screen historically , of the Lost, claiming special status ? No, keep seeking, keep studying, keep loving. Nothing is more Christlike than Loving, and no one sees you folks doing much of that. Sadly, you don't know how apparently, not unconditional love anyway. The only real love there is. The rest is need gussied up as sugar over shit I'm afraid. Literal translations , Armageddon, the Rapture, fundamentalism has come and gone every century since Christ was turned over to the Romans, by folks not unlike you , afraid of living, not grateful for it, Fear is your God it seems, and God, had much to say about that. Read further if you wish to have knowledge , practice if you want any wisdom. Fundamentalism is for those afraid of leaving their own caves. Pretty dark in there.
I could address you point by point, but I will limit myself to three. 1. We do not live in a theocracy, and I as a Christian will oppose any effort by "Christian" nationalists to change that 2. Its simply wrong to attempt to compell by Statute each and and every behavior you might think is "proper", that you cannot accomplish through leading by example or by gentle persuasion 3. Christ said his Kingdom is not of this world and he also said to render to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's. He did not conflate those two things the way "Christian" nationalists seem to want to do. He was also particularly hard on the Pharises which "Christian" nationalists strongly resemble
Despite what you feel, if you believe in the Bible and prophecy, you are inherently a Christian Nationalist. Philippians 2:10-11 New King James Version 10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
@@akadwriter It's not, though. If Christians are allowed to meddle into politics at all (which is up to debate), than of course the question arises which politics and laws to support and which to reject. Should Christians try to base laws and politics on Christian ethics and on Christian views of the social good? If so, than "Christian Nationalism" comes into play. If not so, than we're back to the question agentjs09 asked: Which (other) principle(s) should we follow when deciding on laws and politics?
@jan-matthisweng4437 Of course we should vote and be informed in politics based on our Christian beliefs. But that's not ALL that Wolfe is saying. It's the mission of the church and the body of believers as a whole that is in question. Prove from SCRIPTURE that our focus should be on building policy and political structures as part of The Great Commission. That's where CN goes wayyyy off. It's simply not what the apostles focused on. Or Christ.
@@akadwriter I'm haven't read into CN enough to have an informed opinion about where the focus of it's proponents is. IF, in certain cases, they move the mission of the Church from gaining disciples to gaining voters - from the elect to the electorate, so to speak) -, than, of course, this should and must be countered. IF, on the other hand, it is just about what we as Christians should do within the narrow and secondary confines of being a voter or someone seeking public office, than Christian Nationalism seems at least like a possible answer.
As a Christian, I am not compelled. Granted, I’m not the deepest Biblical scholar, but at the same time, this “Christian Nationalism” thing simply doesn’t align with what I read in the Bible. Perhaps I’m missing something, but it feels like “Christian Nationalism” simply misses the mark, and is pushing a different agenda than what Jesus taught. The principles mentioned in this video are totally void of actual concepts taught by Jesus and the authors of the New Testament. Even at the beginning of this video, Mr. Wolfe builds his cornerstone with a reference to Christian Nationalists as “Those of us who look to the broader Christian tradition…”; rather than saying “Those of us who want to follow Jesus” or “Those of us who want to live like Jesus” or “Those of us that desire to live as Jesus taught us to live.” Mr. Wolfe later states that the two ways people order themselves are through “Civil Law” and “Social Customs”; as opposed be a people known for their "love for one another" or as a people who "love their neighbor as themselves". The teaching of Christian Nationalism, especially in the United States, seems to be pushing an agenda that allows for people to justify American customs and traditions and attitudes, and feel good about themselves that they think they are being a “Good Christian” in doing so. And most of the time, the American Christian nationalist attitudes go against my understanding of New Testament teaching. Jesus didn’t teach much about how believers should associate with the civil government, other than to note that we should obey the law. Jesus also wasn’t a fan of legalistic traditions, and explicitly taught against that attitude. Jesus did teach about sacrificing one’s self, forgiveness, service to others, being willing to suffer and be persecuted, giving to the poor, being a blessing to those who oppose you, complain about nothing, doing all this with joy, and simply expressing love wherever possible. From what I see, Mr. Wolfe and the American Christian nationalist movement do not reinforce any of Jesus teaching, but rather seem to be an attempt to teach other principles, some of which oppose Jesus overarching message. The overall attitude I see in the Christian Nationalist movement is drastically different from and mostly contrary to my understanding of Jesus’ love that we are supposed to be living out. Christian Nationalism seems to elevate certain people groups over others, rank certain individuals better than others, place more value in "self" over "others", and raise the concept of a “Christian Nation” to near idol-like status (especially in the United States). Christian Nationalism seems like a good thing to follow if you want to surround yourself with only those who think the same as you, not live a sacrificial life, don't want to be a servant to others, and don't mind not being a Godly example to anyone. Christian Nationalism also seems like a good thing to embrace if you want to maintain or improve your self-perceived status or situation in earthly life, but this is the exact attitude that Jesus commanded his followers to abandon. So from my assessment so far, Christian Nationalism seems like another repeat from history, not unlike the Pharisees in Jesus' time, and many other times since when people sought out political, social, or economic benefits by bringing “the church” into politics and government. Make some rules, enforce people to follow your rules, tell them it’s all “from God” so that they agree with you, and in the process, take everyone’s eyes off of the true purpose of Christian Living… To show Jesus to the world. I might be wrong here, and everyone needs to make their own decisions in life. I just don’t see how Christian Nationalism reflects the love of Jesus to the world in any way, especially in light of all the attitudes being displayed by Christian Nationalists in America today.
The assertion that (all) just laws are rooted in God's moral law is unfounded and obviously false. That a Christian can see support for this assertion in their Bible is not a sufficient basis to make this assertion so broadly. More importantly, it doesn't take much study and investigation to see that there are many cultures with laws and norms that a Christian can see as "moral" without the Christian notion of God. With this support kicked out from underneath a positive notion of Christian Nationalism then the notion regresses into some Christian's eartly desire to oppress those with different views.
Any civilized country does not reject others religious practices and beliefs if they are for the upliftment of the human spirit. There is a great difference between real followers and the lip service cheaters in any bona fide religion. After all there is one Supreme God for all the people of the world although the presentation maybe different according to time and place and people. There are three modes in material existence. Goodness, Passion and Ignorance . And according to these modes people have their own various attractions to aspects of the Supreme Absolute. The mode of Goodness is liberating. The mode of Passion is binding and the mode of ignorance is degrading. Mostly these modes are mixed and come and go. Regulation of all manner of people is for their eventually elevation to ultimately transcending even the mode of goodness to pure love of God.
Thanks for your thoughts here, Stephen. I’ve actually been looking for a clearer definition so thank you for helping me gain more understanding on it. I do have a few questions for you on this that I might understand more your thoughts in this video: 1) You mention Johann Herder’s quote: • “A person loves (their nations, their family) not because they are the best…but because they are his own.” This is an interesting quote. The Bible certainly tells us of a certain possessiveness we have towards people and others: “Love YOUR wife…Don’t exacerbate YOUR children…Love YOUR neighbor…love your brothers and sisters in the faith.” Loving one’s nation as a whole is more implicitly implied in the ‘love your neighbor’ exhortation but it’s interesting that ‘Love your nation’ isn’t a formal command in the New Testament. Honoring one’s ‘king’, praying for one’s leaders, and loving one’s neighbors and enemies seem more the predominant exhortations on living this out. Through this, civil governmental magistrates may become Christians at some point. But is there a place where you see this as a promise? If a nation doesn’t become a ‘Christian’ nation, in your opinion does that mean the church has failed/is failing? Biblically, it seems I’m told to basically love everyone and stay away from false teachers. Would your version of Christian Nationalism mean loving your birth country over other countries? What about folks who more have a love for other nations, even moreso than their birth country? Say missionaries, for example, who have a deeper love for other peoples and nations? Also, these relationships and entities are also taught to us as being temporal gifts to be stewarded and to not love them above God. What are your thoughts on that? If a person has a more of a heart to spread the gospel somewhere else other than his birth country, and spends more of his time doing so, is he being disobedient to the call here in your definition to love his own country? 2) You define a Christian nation as one that is self-consciously Christian, seeking the good for themselves and their posterity. Thoughts: In the New Testament, it seems that the only ‘Christian nation’ made reference to is the nation of God’s holy people, born again, dwelling as whole globally and in smaller clusters locally. What would you consider the Biblical references for the meaning of ‘Christian nation’ outside of this? Do you see in the NT the definition of ‘Christian nation’ here in this video as something sought by NT believers that involved a complete declaration by a nation’s government that the nation is now a Christian nation? Would you say Constantine and many of the kings who ‘converted’ to Christianity in the past and then declared their nations ‘Christians’ as being what a Christian nation is, according to your definition? 3) To your point on ordering ourselves using the civil law, which you say is rooted in God’s law - you say that civil law cannot compel belief, but can create the best outward conditions for one to conduct undisturbed worship My thoughts: It may, but it’s certainly not the only way. Reading Acts we see a wonderful and unified, worshipful group of believers often living out a strong worshipful community ethic in the midst of being persecuted (maybe even sometimes because of persecution). What does ‘undisturbed worship’ mean to you? 4) On a regulated Sabbath day: Was keeping the Sabbath day (particularly on Sunday) something you see commanded by NT writers, in particular to their Gentile audience? 5) Cultural Christianity a. Operates implicitly, by establishing in us a positive prejudicial regard for the gospel A full-on positive prejudicial regard for the gospel is not something promised to us in the Bible regarding the societies and communities we live in. It may happen, it may not. Are there Biblical promises for this that you see? Would it be nice? Haha - of course. Is it promised? If so, what Biblical references do you see for this? 6) Cultural Christianity cannot bring us to faith, but can make the truths of the faith plausible to us Certainly God can use nations that are culturally Christian to bring his truths to people. But He is not limited to that nor do I see in the Bible where it says this must happen. Often he makes the truths of the faith plausible in dark times of persecution and suffering as well. I’m curious if you see otherwise, or if you see this as a promise given in the Bible? Thanks so much, Stephen! I have no doubt a ton of work went into writing the book. I haven’t read it yet so maybe these questions are answered there. Blessings to you and thanks for your time if you read all of this 😊.
In regards to your third point, that was my understanding as well. To operate under Gods kingdom in the midst of a pagan state. There are multiple scriptures encouraging us to pray for our leaders and governments. I think we should definitely strive for cultural Christianity even though its an uphill battle but the civil perspective doesn't make much sense from a New Testament view. The thing is that both the civil and cultural aspect have to work together and it is very difficult for them to operate independently. In Iran, women are taking off their hijab but it has cultural and civil implications. They are trying to change the culture and use that to change the law, but that wont happen without bloodshed or by the power of God.
@@michaelbowman4607 Hey Michael - thanks for the comment. Could you help me out here with a good solid definition of nationalism (I'm not being sarcastic here). I've just gotten into this foray of nationalism/Christian nationalism etc. If you have a good definition let me know. Thanks and be blessed.
@@HasanUnknown The results of Christendom's political prostitution making Jesus "God" ("Trinity" teaching) SHOULD have been enough to make it crystal clear that it was a false teaching. The bloodshed and hatreds that developed from the teaching bears the fruitage Jesus himself CLEARLY warned about. But, it was also prophesied that it would happen and was (and is) no surprise to true Christians following the teachings of the Christ who reflected his Father's views. Thank you for such a clear explanation from an Islamic perspective?
@@blakelewis857 I looked up the definition in Webster's Dictionary. Without defined words, people can make ANYTHING sound "right". That is why people have no idea what a man or a woman is anymore. It has been "redefined". nationalism noun na·tion·al·ism ˈna-sh(ə-)nə-ˌli-zəm 1 : loyalty and devotion to a nation especially : a sense of national consciousness (see CONSCIOUSNESS sense 1c) exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups.
So...what about Seventh Day adventist,you know,the ones who worship on the right and original day of worship- Saturday,which is the Sabbath from God himself? What happens to them? Maybe people meet to read the word of God and see what God says about all these things
First what we really need to ask them is, "who is Jesus Christ"? We will wait for them to give a doctrinal explanation to find out whether or not they are Christians who are strict sabbatarians trying to bind a consciences of other Christians who don't observe the sabbath on the seventh day, or are they following another Jesus, a false Christ, and are not Christians in the first place.
great video. The state will use someones values why not God's? The sate will use someones standard of morality, why not God's standard of morality. The state will impose and enforce someones laws, why not God's?
Which God's values? Christians read from the same book and can't agree on much of it. Sure, things might go well for the conglomeration at the beginning but history proves it would eventually degenerate into a murderous mess. Much like what happens to a group of piranhas that get trapped in a small pool - they eventually start eating their own.
I agree let’s appropriate the term. Remember our forefathers were called derogatory terms that they themselves appropriated such as Abraham called a Hebrew or the followers of Jesus called Christians.
Our "Forefathers" were, by any international law standards, traitors to the Crown they had sworn allegiance to. When nationalism and politics are out into play, the "winner" writes history. That is why Jesus told his followers to not be a part in their political games. If he had wanted a better way at the time, he could have overthrown Rome or called for his followers to fight precieved "injustices". He didn't. He told the to spread the good news of a different Kingdom.
Yes, the Seventh day is Saturday not Sunday We've been conditioned to think Sunday is the day of worship, But actually God blessed the Seventh day at creation when that day was over, to hallow it and set it apart as a holy day... forever (Genesis 2:2-3). If i will sing the USA hymn at the Australia flag it will be correct just because a flag is a flag and both are made with same material?? NO!! the correct flag is important... the correct day is important...AND THE SABBATH IS THE FLAG OF GOD...let's have logic and stop signing to the SUNday flag as if it's the sabbath one just because it becomes a tradition but it will never replace the original one commandment
Christian Nationalism seeks a different messiah than Jesus. Jesus was tempted by Satan in the desert with authority to rule the whole world. He chose the way of the servant, the way of the cross, the way of loving your enemy and changing the world through nonviolent love. Christian Nationalism says “let’s take that deal”. Jesus rebuked Peter when he cut off the Roman soldier’s ear with his sword and healed him even though he was on his way to an excruciating death on the cross. A Sunday law will bring the mark of the beast eventually
@@Truepxnd Satan offered the world in return for worship. We do not wish to rule the world, but to rule our own homelands according to Christian precepts. We do not wish to worship Satan but to worship Christ. Your argument by analogy does not match, and therefore falls flat.
What exactly does it mean then? Seems like a stepping stone towards facism. Im Jewish so how exact would i benefit from being forced by the government into being a chrsitan? Im sure my 30-06 might want to have a nice word with whoever tries to pull that one on me or my family.
Having watched Canon Press's videos that feature Wolfe and his ideas (and other interviews of him here on RU-vid), I am now convinced that seeking to establish a "Christian Nation" in the US would be (is) a tremendous waste of spiritual energy and a dangerous distraction from what should be the Church's singular aim, that is, preaching the gospel and letting the Holy Spirit transform hearts as the Church waits (consider how frequently the epistles command Christians to patiently wait on the Lord and how infrequently it suggests that they should spend their energy seeking positions of power and influence in worldly systems) for Jesus to return and establish His Kingdom in His timing. Wolfe speaks a lot about Christians "asserting their political will," but I wonder where such an activist posture is encouraged in the New Testament. I can't find anything that suggests as much. What I do find is that the New Testament consistently envisions the Christian life as one of godly quietude, peace with fellow men, love of neighbor, fixing one's eyes on the glory that is one day to be revealed and calibrating one's earthly activity accordingly. I am of no doubt that Wolfe's project encourages the opposite virtues, even as these already betray themselves within certain corners of the Christian Nationalist movement: anxiety about the future, suspicion of one's non-Christian neighbors, wrangling for political power, disdain for the other, crippling anger. It comes as no surprise to me to learn that Wolfe spends so little time exegeting Scripture in his tome, as doing so would expose the fundamental futility of his project, Biblically speaking.
Why must a Christian be publicly secular? There is no rule or Biblical command that demands Jesus Christ be put on hold while a man is at work or at the ballot box. That's absurd. It many ways "Christian Nationalist" is redundant. The very idea of Christianity in the great commission is to "disciple the nations" and make believers of all people. That would inevitably lead to the executors of the civil authority also recognizing God's sovereignty and ruling accordingly. There is no meaningful difference between "spreading the Gospel" and "Asserting political will". Especially since the word "politic" itself refers to public life as a whole. There is no reason at all to outlaw public Christianity.
For those of you in the comments, if you don’t want Christian Nationalism, then what do you want? Pagan Nationalism? Pagan Globalism? Pagan Tribalism? What???
"Christian Nationalism" is not what it claims to be. The Bible does not foretell that we Christians will "take over the world". Instead, it will be the fourth beast of Daniel 7, with the little horn that "speaketh great things", as well as the 2-horned beast of Revelation 13, which had "two horns like a lamb", and "spake as a dragon." I have a question for you. Daniel 7:17 says, "These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth." So what does this mean: (Revelation 13:3-4, KJV) "And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?" Study the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation, and you will see where this "Christian Nationalism" is headed.
@@paulb7974 It is unfortunate that you have missed my point, but I will reply. No. I want the "stone cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay", that stone being God's kingdom which he will set up after the destruction of this world's kingdoms, which are represented by the gold (Babylon), silver (Medo-Persia), brass (Greece), iron (Rome), and the iron mixed with miry clay (Roman Catholicism).
@@synthwav3942 so until then, you promote godlessness and hide your light under a bushel. I’m glad my parents and theirs didn’t have that attitude. I got your point. You want to sit on your hands while saying, “see! God said the world would get more evil!” Rather than obeying God by being salt and light. How lazy. God also revealed that there would be a great falling away. Looks like many who claim Christ in word, don’t care to work in his fields. I believe that the nation whose God is the Lord is blessed.
@@paulb7974 What? You misrepresent my words. I try to do my part to spread his Word, and if I had a family of my own, I would also inspire them to follow God, as did Abraham. I never said we should not spread the gospel, you lie about my intentions. I simply said that it is not prophesied that Christians will ever be on top, but rather Christian pagans.
I wouldnt call forcing an entire population into a singular religion remotely close to " a quiet and peaceful life" Im Jewish so that'll be a big no thank you from me.
@@setokaiba6436 Nowhere in the video does he promote forcing people into a religion. "Christian Nationalism" simply means the laws of the nation are rooted in a Christian ethos, as opposed to a Muslim or a secular one (which is really non-existent if you think about it). Freedom of religion can still exist.
I still like God's way of defining Nation. We don't have to add an adjective to male to define male (we don't have to say Christian male to know what male and female are), or an adjective to marriage to understand what marriage is (we don't have to say Christian marriage), or an adjective to nationalism to understand nationhood is (to say Christian nationalism is only to invite problems). When God extracted a nation from a nation (Deut 4:34) He took 40 years to instruct these people in this way: *On Gender:* Genesis 1:27 God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. *On Marriage:* Genesis 2:24 For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh. *On Nationality:* Genesis 10:5 From these the coastlands of the nations were separated into their lands, every one according to his language, according to their families, into their nations. Someday we will embrace the totality of what God said, repent, and be saved. Then God will have his males and females, husbands and wives, tribes and nations as He designed from the beginning.
Thank you for the courage. Much needed conversation to counter the false teachers like Russell Moore, David French and Andy Stanley. We are surrounded by wolves outside and inside. We need to let the world know the false teachers are not on the inside and the true bride has courage of faith.
I'm looking for videos to share on Christian Nationalsm. Found this. The honorable way for Christian nation to observe various holy days is Paul's way. Any day, observed from the heart, is permissible and respected. No, I don't think forcing business to close is OK.
Enforcing Sabbath keeping by closing shops on Sundays would not be for the "national good" of the people, because many Christians do not agree with the observance of Sunday and need to work on that day to make ends meet. Apart from the ancient nation of Israel, every enforcement of biblical laws and Christian traditions have always resulted in persecution of those who disagree. Let's rather learn from history and not repeat the errors of the past. If one believes his or her course of action is the best one, persuasion is the best method to use, not force, even if its indirectly.
They need to work on the day the Lord commanded them to rest and gather with one another? Do you really believe that. How did our country survive with Sabbath/Lord's Day ordinances in the past then? How do we survive with holidays or a 5 day work week? Is Jesus powerless to provide for a nation who obeys His law?
@@banemaler // They need to work on the day the Lord commanded them to rest and gather with one another? // The Lord never commanded to rest on Sunday though. // How did our country survive with Sabbath/Lord's Day ordinance in the past? // By persecuting those who did not abide by those laws because it went against their conscience. // How do we survive with holidays or a 5 day work week? // Holidays do not take place on a weekly basis, so the financial impact on people is not high. Five day work weeks work for some people, but not all. That's why it's hard to regulate that in a country with such a diversity of people, skills and professions // Is Jesus powerlessto provide for a nation who obeys His law? // No, but He has not called for any nation to enforce His laws by the civil authority. In the New Testament, we are called to respect the civil laws unless they go against pur individuals conscience and Christian principles. When Simon Peter was faced with such a predicament, he said, "we ought to obey God rather than man."
The fact is, a legalist can keep the letter of the law without keeping the spirit of the law which breaks the law. Which is one reason Jesus said, "You have heard it said...but I say unto you..." in Mat. 5. Many of the legalists in his day didn't murder or commit adultery but the hate and lust in their hearts broke the the law. The laws of God have to be kept in our hearts and minds before external conformity accounts for anything with God. In Exodus 16, that sabbath command was given specifically to "the people of Israel." It mentions 10 times in that chapter that "the people of Israel" are the ones who received that specific command. I believe it was either the first or one of the earliest ceremonial commands that the nation of Israel received from God. These aspects distinguish Exodus 16 from the decalogue in Exodus 20: There are no ceremonial commands in Exodus 20, more importantly all of the commands in the decalogue consist of "a positive moral, and perpetual commandment binding all men, in all ages" as the confessions say. The seventh day sabbath was specifically given to the people of Israel in Exodus 16. Therefore only the nation of Israel or "the people of Israel" are bound morally to observe the sabbath on the seventh day. Whereas the moral command to keep the sabbath holy, refrain from labor, and rest is "a positive moral, and perpetual commandment binding all men, in all ages" as our historic Christians confession say. All 10 of the commandments in the decalogue are morally binding on all people including the fourth commandment about the Sabbath, that is why those commands predate Moses and go all the way to Genesis. The Sabbath command in Exodus 20 is not about ceremonial observance, but keeping it on the seventh day is ceremonial for the "people of Israel" as proved by Exodus 16. In the New Covenant, unlike under the Mosaic application of the laws in the decalogue, observing the Sabbath is about "a positive moral, and perpetual commandment..." (LBCF chapter 22 paragraph 7) to keep an observance which God "has particularly appointed one day in seven for a sabbath to be kept holy unto him." We observe and keep holy one day in seven, it doesn't have to be the seventh day. We believe that since the creation week God set the example of blessing a day, making it holy, and resting. Also the New Testament Church set the example of keeping the first day of the week holy unto the Lord as the Lord's Day. We also believe that your conscience is free to observe it on the seventh day but I'm sure if Sabbath laws are passed they will be enforced on the Lord's Day.
@@theologynerd1689 as much as I disagree with nearly everything you wrote, I only want to emphasize the illegitimacy of forcing closures of shops on Sundays just to encourage Sunday observance. Whether you agree the seventh day Sabbath is a command or not, it is never a good idea to ever enforce, by civil authority, laws that pertain to our relationship with God, such as the first four commandments.
@@AdventDefenseLeague I don't want Sabbath laws passed that would close people's businesses on the Sabbath either the first or seventh day. My point was that in a Christian nation or state, any Sabbath laws would be enforced on the Lord's day because of the arguments I gave. Because protestants believe in freedom of conscience, a church could observe the seventh day sabbath. I wouldn't want any laws that would encourage another Christian to violate their conscience.
The Bible says in multiple places that "the seventh day is the sabbath". It predates Moses' meeting with God at mount Sinai, as evidenced by Exodus 16. It postdates Christ's sacrifice, as evidenced by Acts 13, 15, and 17. 1 John 3:4 says that "sin is the transgression of the law". In Genesis 4:7 is the first mention of sin in the Bible, to Cain. If Cain was in danger of sin at all, which law was he subject to? The same law that says "thou shalt not kill"? Did he not transgress that law by killing Abel? The Ten Commandments predates Moses. And the beginning of the sabbath day is of course in Genesis 2: "And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made."
Yes, the Seventh day is Saturday not Sunday We've been conditioned to think Sunday is the day of worship, But actually God blessed the Seventh day at creation when that day was over, to hallow it and set it apart as a holy day... forever (Gensis 2:2-3). The ten commandments (God's moral law) was since creation. This is why God say it was wrong to kill Cain. This is why God says remember the Sabbath day in the 4th commandment.
The fact is, a legalist can keep the letter of the law without keeping the spirit of the law which breaks the law. Which is one reason Jesus said, "You have heard it said...but I say unto you..." in Mat. 5. Many of the legalists in his day didn't murder or commit adultery but the hate and lust in their hearts broke the the law. The laws of God have to be kept in our hearts and minds before external conformity accounts for anything with God. In Exodus 16, that sabbath command was given specifically to "the people of Israel." It mentions 10 times in that chapter that "the people of Israel" are the ones who received that specific command. I believe it was either the first or one of the earliest ceremonial commands that the nation of Israel received from God. These aspects distinguish Exodus 16 from the decalogue in Exodus 20: There are no ceremonial commands in Exodus 20, more importantly all of the commands in the decalogue consist of "a positive moral, and perpetual commandment binding all men, in all ages" as the confessions say. The seventh day sabbath was specifically given to the people of Israel as you proved by pointing out Exodus 16. Therefore only the nation of Israel or "the people of Israel" are bound morally to observe the sabbath on the seventh day. Whereas the moral command to keep the sabbath holy, refrain from labor, and rest is "a positive moral, and perpetual commandment binding all men, in all ages" as our historic Christians confession say. All 10 of the commandments in the decalogue are morally binding on all people including the fourth commandment about the Sabbath, that is why those commands predate Moses and go all the way to Genesis. The Sabbath command in Exodus 20 is not about ceremonial observance, but keeping it on the seventh day is ceremonial for the "people of Israel" as proved by Exodus 16. In the New Covenant, unlike under the Mosaic application of the laws in the decalogue, observing the Sabbath is about "a positive moral, and perpetual commandment..." (LBCF chapter 22 paragraph 7) to keep an observance which God "has particularly appointed one day in seven for a sabbath to be kept holy unto him." We observe and keep holy one day in seven, it doesn't have to be the seventh day. We believe that since the creation week God set the example of blessing a day, making it holy, and resting. Also the New Testament Church set the example of keeping the first day of the week holy unto the Lord as the Lord's Day.
@@theologynerd1689 The seventh-day Sabbath was instituted as early as creation, when "the people of Israel" were not yet in existence. What you're giving me is an excuse created by the church fathers to sanction pagan sun worship. They either did not understand or did not want to understand the message of the sanctuary. Physical Israel was "divorced" and the privilege of spreading the gospel was given to the Gentiles. We are Spiritual Israel and we, as well as all people, are bound to God's original laws which he wrote IN STONE at Mount Sinai. We have no excuse.
The 7th day was sanctified at creation and kept by all people (not just the Jews). Anyone who keeps God’s law is a spiritual Jew since the word went to the Gentiles after the fall of Jerusalem. The commandments weren’t abolished at the cross, the mosaic feasts, sacrifices and ritual sabbaths were. This pagan movement will bring about the mark. We can’t serve two masters. In the forehead=internal acceptance; in the hand=external compliance. Tradition Greek παράδοσις/paradosis = 666 by counting the letter values of the Greek transliteration; P(80), A(1), R(100), A(1), D(4), O(70), S(200), I(10), S(200). "Vicarius Filii Dei" is the beast mocking (Blaspheming) God, but it does not lead one to the knowledge of the mark of the beast as does the 'tradition' of men. Sunday worship is of the traditions and commandments of men. (The phrase "Vicarius Filii Dei" was not even present in our vocabulary until 753 A.D.)
It's gonna be one religion or another. Right now the religion being pushed is woke religion, LGBT and the like. Rainbow flags flying from state capitols. And many of them want to criminalize merely disagreeing with their beliefs about gender. Don't think that's going to be much better for society either.
U will be tared and feathered for your statement, sunday worship is coming which is contrary to the 4th commandment which states the 7TH DAY, NOT THE 1 DAY OF THE WEEK.
Yes, the Seventh day is Saturday not Sunday We've been conditioned to think Sunday is the day of worship, But actually God blessed the Seventh day at creation when that day was over, to hallow it and set it apart as a holy day... forever (Genesis 2:2-3). If i will sing the USA hymn at the Australia flag it will be correct just because a flag is a flag and both are made with same material?? NO!! the correct flag is important... the correct day is important...AND THE SABBATH IS THE FLAG OF GOD...let's have logic and stop signing to the SUNday flag as if it's the sabbath one just because it becomes a tradition but it will never replace the original one commandment
My friend this must happen before the End, it was prophesied by John the Revelator that they would set up a false system of worship and persecute the Saints who refuse to bow to their image and authority.
How scary!!! destroying freedom or liberty of conscience these laws will be used to demand u have to worship GOD ONLY this way. The push will be sunday worship for all. The Bible states this very plainly. Be ware of wolves in sheep clothing.
@@keifer7813 The answer depends on your ethical view on keeping laws (or, more general, rules) with which you don't agree in one way or the other. In a sense, of course you don't have to abide, you always have the possibility of violating a rule. Which, obviously, could lead to you being legally or socially sanctioned as a rulebreaker. Assuming you are in favor of a democratic republic and the rule of law, I would argue that as long the religion-turned-ethics-turned-law stays within the confines of a given constitution, pre-established legal principles, and human rights, it is your duty as being part of the social contract to abide those laws. (If, e.g., you are a revolutionary National Socialist-Strasserist, or an orthodox Rothbardian anarcho-capitalist, things change.)
@@keifer7813 As far as I understand "mainstream" Christian Nationalism, it's not about establishing an official state religion, but to base your voting and legislating on those Christian principles you hold anyway. But, of course, IF and insofar adherents of CN DO want to establish such an official state religion, it would be unconstitutional. (On the other hand, if CN ever gained a real numerical majority, it would open up the way for a constitutional convention and the passing of a new constitution.)
What authority has any of this when it is not being substantiated by Scripture? Deductions from theological and philosophical systems is not the same as an exegetically derived understanding of the themes here talked about. This is the bane of the Great Comission. I cannot bear it.
Enlightenment may stem from rejection of "received texts". Open debate, repeatable experiments, observed results, a modest appraisal of your own knowledge. That is a start.
@@dannyize Those methods have their purposes and their limitations. We can apply rational principles to weigh whether a text should be believed for what it claims, but presupposing the rejection is not helpful.
I believe we all know how this idea of Sunday sabbath being enforced by civil law will start. Sunday sabbath laws will first be voluntary, then of course they will become mandatory. We have already seen the model rolled out the last few years. God created the Sabbath in the beginning (Genesis 2:1-3) for all mankind. It was and is still the Seventh Day. It is of course the 4th commandment written with the finger of God on tables of stone. It is the only commandment that tells us which God we worship, the creator of heaven and earth. It’s the only commandment out of the ten that starts with remember. It’s the only day that God blessed and made holy. It’s the only day that all of prophets kept, it’s the only day Jesus kept, it’s the only day that all his disciples kept, and it’s the day we will keep on the earth made new for all eternity. Isaiah 66:22,23 I grew up a Roman Catholic in an area where it was the only church. My dad learned about the Seventh day sabbath from reading the Bible. He also was a Catholic and decided to question the local priest about the Sabbath. So we went to the Catholic church, went into his office, and my dad proceeded to ask the priest. Why do we worship on Sunday when the Bible says that Saturday or the seventh day is the Sabbath? Here is the answer he gave my father. He said we keep Sunday in honor of the resurrection. We keep Sunday because the Catholic Church changed the day from Saturday to Sunday. We keep Sunday because Jesus gave power to the Catholic Church to change the day. Then my father asked the Catholic priest, where in the Bible could he find these reasons for keeping Sunday as God’s day of worship. And I remember as a young man hearing his response, you cannot find the change in the Bible because it is a commandment of the Roman Catholic Church! The Catholic Church admits the change! “Sunday is our mark of authority …. The church is above the Bible, and this transference of sabbath observance is proof of that fact” (The Catholic Record of London, Ontario, Sept. 1, 1923). The Bible predicted the Antichrist would think to change times and laws of God. Daniel 7:25 History revealed to us during the dark ages what happens when the church uses the mighty arm of civil government to enforce its laws! Death! Historians estimate that over 50 million of the human family were massacred in the name of God. According to Revelation 13 Enforced Sunday worship will become the mark of the beast! The warning against receiving the mark of the beast is found in Revelation 14:6-12 it is the last message warning to the world. If you want to know more click on this link. God bless www.sabbathtruth.com/free-resources/article-library/story/id/916/t/where-s-the-evidence-that-the-sabbath-was-changed-
Not sure about your story because I've heard many sda say this same story about their father. But I digress You said "According to revelation 13, enforced Sunday worship will become the mark of the beast" yet revelations 13 or any of the Bible never mentions "Sunday worship" much less being the mark of the beast. It's not in the bible. Your comment is riddled with problems but this one lie against the bible voids your entire statement and shows your character. Also side note, I'm not catholic but I do know that the catholic believe that Peter was the first catholic which is where they get the idea that the catholic started the lords day(not changed the sabbath). The lord day is not the sabbath although many people call it that, that's just the character that's been added to it through the years. It's mostly been attached since the puritans started. The gathering on the lords day is the day recognized by the apostles and noted by our apostolic fathers. It's well documented that Christians were meeting on the first day since the apostles as it's the day of resurrection. We celebrate God's resurrection because without it, there would be no salvation. Only an evil person will encourage someone to not worship God on any day he sees fit. All days belong to God. Furthermore revelation 13 is talking about people of the world who are not saved that accept the mark. I hope you trust in Jesus for your salvation because when you do he will send the holy spirit to you and you will know. When we believe his message that he died to save us he then seals us with the holy spirit as an assurance of our salvation. Ephesians 1 13¶In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14whofn is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.
I am sorry, but who made you God? My Bible says that the Sabbath is Saturday, and it's not for the Jews because there were no Jews at creation. And can you try to force people to worship God on Sunday, God gave us free will... I will obey my God not man!!!
In truth, our nation once had what Stephen defines here. The Puritans pretty much put Godat the forefront of everything they established. What's obvious is even in the most ideal of spiritual times in our nation, that condition eventually wanes as succeeding generations become lax. Hence we see a cyclical returning to these principles when the nation all but seems to have come undone & disconnected from it's spiritual beginnings & most importantly God Himself.
Very few people I have met (both Christian and non-Christian) really grasp the importance of cultural Christianity. I'm glad to see Wolfe addressing this.
"Cultural Christianity" is also false and non-scriptural. He bases such on a self-defined and misleading definition of "Nationalism". Might as well redefine "natzism" and make it sound good.... Hitler did. Most of his followers were "Christian Nationalists".
If you need the pope to be your king then welcome these ideas... Europe has 1700 year history of this... say goodbye to the idea of a democratic republic.
@@bravod4829 Scripturally, Christians will be saying "good bye" to all forms of human Government... (Dan 2:44,45; Matthew 6:9,10) We better work really hard to keep THAT from happening! LOL. Reminds me of what Pharaoh was told. (Romans 9:16,17)
Yes, the Seventh day is Saturday not Sunday We've been conditioned to think Sunday is the day of worship, But actually God blessed the Seventh day at creation when that day was over, to hallow it and set it apart as a holy day... forever (Genesis 2:2-3). If i will sing the USA hymn at the Australia flag it will be correct just because a flag is a flag and both are made with same material?? NO!! the correct flag is important... the correct day is important...AND THE SABBATH IS THE FLAG OF GOD...let's have logic and stop signing to the SUNday flag as if it's the sabbath one just because it becomes a tradition but it will never replace the original one commandment
Christian Nationalism seeks a different messiah than Jesus. Jesus was tempted by Satan in the desert with authority to rule the whole world. He chose the way of the servant, the way of the cross, the way of loving your enemy and changing the world through nonviolent love. Christian Nationalism says “let’s take that deal”. Jesus rebuked Peter when he cut off the Roman soldier’s ear with his sword and healed him even though he was on his way to an excruciating death on the cross. A Sunday law will bring the mark of the beast eventually
Atheist and others will be persecuted, of course. Stephen Wolfe's idea sounds mild and "Christian". But let it be implemented, it will speak as a dragon. Remember Inquisition. Stephen....the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
@@archiebunker5979 The 'Land Beast' would have 'horns like a Lamb' and 'Speak as a Dragon'. Are we really so blind to not understand that John was speaking of America?
@@archiebunker5979 He suggests a theocracy in function but doesn't embrace theocracy as a label for his anti-democratic oppressive authoritarian political movement.
When are we going to wake up and realise Christian nationalism is not necessarily a good thing? If we look in prophecy, Revelation never foretells that the last days on earth will be an amazing Christian nation. Instead, God's remnant will be persecuted by a system who wants to enforce worship (Rev 13:12). If we try to establish something that was never foretold by God, we may actually find ourselves on the wrong side of history... having instead established the beast's system of using civil laws to enforce worship (trampling on freedom of conscience, the foundation of protestantism). Also the Sabbath is actually Saturday, there was never any Biblical authority or scripture that changed the day from the Seventh day to the Eighth day.
If it was incumbent to observe the Sabbath as the Jews, why isn't Sabbath-breaking isn't on the 2 lists in the NT on who won't inherit the kingdom ? if you beleeve the Lord in his narrative referred to as the Richman and Lazarus, one can see.SDA so thrown-off : not to mention, EGW taught that Jesus is Michael the Archangel ! SMH
@@TedBruckner and yet we will keep the Sabbath in heaven? Isaiah 66:23. Calvin and Spurgeon were Trinitarians who speculated that Jesus is Michael. Because the Bible verses for that is too strong. You see we can believe Jesus is God and He that He is Michael. The two are not mutually exclusive. Sometimes tradition is more valued than the Bible. SMH
Correct. This is the beast system. It’s coming and coming upon us fast. COP27 and Ladauto Si signified it’s silent announcement among this American apostate protestant movement. Get ready for the loud cry and three angels message! It’s here.
Jesus is Michael. Michael means, “He who is like God;” Archangel means “messenger.” Only Jesus (referred to as Michael) had the power of resurrection of Moses during the debacle with satan. The name Michael, like the name Emmanuel, is simply another name for Jesus. An examination of the 5 references to Michael reveals this fact. Jude 1:9 directly calls him the “archangel” and Paul identifies Jesus as the archangel whose voice resurrects the dead (1 Thessalonians 4:16). We know for sure it’s Jesus’ voice, and not that he is using another Being’s voice, because he said that all who are in the grave will hear “his voice…” (John 5:25, 28-29). Additionally, a striking parallel between Jude 1:9 and Zechariah 3:2 reveals that it is “the LORD” who actually rebukes Satan. Moreover, while Daniel 10:13 says that Michael is “one of the chief princes,” yet Daniel 12:1 makes it clear he is the greatest among all princes. Daniel 10:21 and Revelation 12:7 point unequivocally to Jesus because these texts say that Michael is the leader of both the heavenly and earthly hosts, which we know are characteristics that combined belong to Jesus alone (compare with Matthew 13:41, Revelation 19:11-14 and 1 Corinthians 11:3). Putting all this together we see that it is Jesus, not an angel, who resurrects the dead, Jesus, not an angel, who commands and leads the angels, and Jesus, not an angel, who is the ultimate leader of God’s people.
Christian Nationalism seeks a different messiah than Jesus. Jesus was tempted by Satan in the desert with authority to rule the whole world. He chose the way of the servant, the way of the cross, the way of loving your enemy and changing the world through nonviolent love. Christian Nationalism says “let’s take that deal”. Jesus rebuked Peter when he cut off the Roman soldier’s ear with his sword and healed him even though he was on his way to an excruciating death on the cross. Christian Nationalist Jesus praises Peter and leads his disciples into violent battle. The reason (true) Christianity has spread throughout history so fast was because of virtues like charity and loving their neighbors (and enemies) as themselves. These were radically different than any other practice at the time. The parable of the Good Samaritan is God telling us that He doesn’t care so much about our pledging our allegiance to Him, but He cares more about us loving His creation. A theocracy was never what America was intended to be. We are strengthened by our diversity and our pluralism. By becoming more egalitarian and inclusive. Christian Nationalism is about as Christ centered as Christian Scientology.
"REGULATE THE SABBATH DAY?" It's time for Christian's to get back to the Biblical Saturday Sabbath? However, regulating it is another thing. 8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. - Exodus 20:8-11 King James Version
No. Nationalism implies that the country ("the nation") is inherently good or bad. It's not. It's as good as the behaviors and the laws and structures people put in place and enforce. What Christians always do when they combine the word Christian with nationalism is they assert that a country is inherently good (or bad) based on what a god says or thinks or wants. It's not. It's based on how it treats people when people's behavior or circumstances are addressed by policies and laws.
The question is not that you call yourselves Christian nationalists but if you do actually govern by them and respect other human beings as is said in Christianity
@@Charles.Wright "And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. *And the second is like it, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.* " Mark 12:30-31
Well done! Its amawsome seeing more people start to identify as Christian nationalist. Its truly sad that a lot of people take Christian nationalism and spin it to be something its not. Be safe out there everyone!
This world is not our home. 1 John 2:16-17 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. This world, and the countries within it are all doomed for destruction, until Christ returns our mission here is to spread the gospel, not to reform society, but to let men know that the Holy Spirit can reform reform individual hearts. A time will come when the Saints will be given the Judgment, that time is not yet.
Creation yearns for redemption, not destruction. If Jesus tells us to pray for his kingdom to come on earth, why would that earth be destroyed? I used to think the same as you, but got Postmil'd by Doug. Blessings!
Reform people but not society? How does that even make sense. Do you believe transformed people don't influence society, they have no power, Christ within them is of no affect? Please explain how such a believer withholds goodness from the people around them.
@@banemaler Reforming people will have a positive effect on society, but society as a whole will never be reformed, nor is reforming society our focus-as Jesus warned the world will only get more and more wicked as in the days of Noah. Luke 17:27-30 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed. Noah’s world was not converted, neither will ours, it will get worse and worse as Paul said in 2 Tim 3:1-9, God never asked us to convert the entire world, but rather to preach to the entire world, what they do with the message is on them.
@@banemaler the Son of Man is Christ Matt 16:33 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
Are you from Israel? And are you Christian? If so can you Tell me if you ever had Bad experience in Israel with other people disrespecting or Not tollerating your Religion? i Always Had the View Christians are Welcome in Israel but a palestinian "friend" of Mine sad that Israelis almost hate Christians as much as Muslims(Not really trustworthy this Guy). Also can a normal Muslim Not involved in the palestina conflict live a normal Life in Israel? I would Love to hear some Personal experience from someone living there. May God Bless you❤
When I hear nationalism, I rightfully hear statism or as it was in the old vernacular, Caesar-ism. When will you people start to realize that the kingdom of God is actually a literal kingdom?
@@ludwigkirchner08 The Sabbath is defined by Genesis, and reinforced by Exodus 16 and 20. And it has never been changed. God's Law also existed before it was given to Moses. 1 John 3:4 says that "sin is the transgression of the law". God told Cain all the way in Genesis, "sin lieth at the door". If there was no law before Moses, where was sin? "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath: therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the Sabbath." - Mark 2:27-28
@@synthwav3942 You missed a lot of things mate. The NEW COVENANT. Mosaic Law is no in effect so your definitions are non sequitur irrelevant. HERE is it mate: "The Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath." He demonstrates this in numerous ways by violating TRADITIONS of the state religion called Judaea-ism. And the saints came together to break bread as sacrament on the FIRST day like they were commanded.
@@synthwav3942 You didn't address what I wrote at all. Do I need to write it all again?? Here. Start with this: Mark 2 "The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath. Therefore the Son of man is Lord of the sabbath also. Explain what Jesus Himself is saying if all He had to do was to cite Exodus.
@@banemaler "Christendom"= professing Christians who adhere to heathen traditions and beliefs that were whitewashed by Catholics like Sunday keeping, Easter, and Christmas. True Christianity requires God's ppl to observe the festivals listed in Lev. 23.
It should come as no surprise that the anarchists are beside themselves with rage over this idea. But we can't put too much credence in the rantings of people who've made a cottage industry from category mistakes. As we love others despite their imperfection, we love our nation.
Will we be getting a #NoQuarterNovember calling for restitution from those who launched a proxy war on Wolfe by attacking Achord - Or are the articles only for throwing shade on Torba and small-town guys?
Biblical standards: multiple attestation, self incrimination, cross examination of witnesses. Isn’t *Alastair claiming he’s sitting on a multiple page receipt demonstrating Achord lying? And Achord had claimed he’s resigned and the account isn’t his in his blog response, but shut down his accounts so it’s hard to do reconstructions except by indirect associations. We also have indirect testimony that he’s been fired, along with Wolffe having been friends with the other account and not recognizing it wasn’t Achord? Just seems messy to assert one side or the other’s in the right in an impartial way by biblical standards- saying you think one side’s more trustworthy, I get. But biblically, I don’t see the receipts needed to come down on one side, or calling this doxxing, if Achord left of his own will, with conflicting polarized sides that both have an interest aside from truth in being right, and without access to the school’s statement. Feel free to provide links if you think it’s more clear cut. I could be behind on my info, but so could others. Otherwise comments like this are just introducing people to elements of controversy without much context, except as a way of stirring up resentment against guys like Canon on your side in the big picture of making America truly great again. I get your fren was hurt, he has a real family to feed, respectable authorities shot first and are revealing their homework later, and it seems Someone’s guilty of a 9th commandment violation- or multiple parties on both sides are… but it’s still too muddy to coerce consciences, and it doesn’t seem like insinuating the point of this vid is Torba shaming makes much sense.
Christian nationalism is definitely gonna push for a national Sunday law starts in America first then becomes universal enforce Sunday worship is the mark of pope authority vicarious filli dei laudato si pg 237
We need to stop saying the US was founded in 1776, and start affirming that the US was really founded in 1620 when the Pilgrims landed in Plymouth We are foundationally a Christian Nation
Unless one honestly looks at the reality of what happened, British citizens committing high treason against their King and murdering their fellow countrymen to steal what they had been entrusted with. Its all perspective and war and bloodshed is always justified for the "greater" good - which is why human government will never bring about the conditions they strive to achieve.....
@@andrewgd1858 Every US President has been... And the Pilgrims (along with most if not all of the original Colonies and settlers thereafter) were explicitly Christian at the individual, family, church, societal, and (yes) even the legal/political spheres (to reference the 5 spheres in Wolfe's book)
@cbeaudry4646 Are you saying that George Washington who denied church sacrament is can be called Christian ? Thomas Jefferson he is established Democratic party and founded university of Virginia which is not a Christian University, it is a Unitarian and humanism . George W Bush was invaded Iraq and and there was no evidence of weapons of mass destruction , in his autobiography he was belonged at skull and bornes Obama in his term legalized the same sex marriage Donald Trump , he ordered operation warp speed . And US embassy in israel Moved to Jerusalem . Helping the Zionist and promoted the vaccination and results are awful . So not just these , but US president are not obeying God’s law , and who don’t obey God’s law can be called Christian ?
Jamestown was well established before the Pilgrims ever boarded the boat, and not as a "Christian Nation" but as a Empire-expanding commercial venture funded and established by and for no one other than the king of England, James. The Pilgrims came because the King allowed them to come to expand HIS empire. That they were granted religious "freedom" serves the Kings needs as much as their wants. The thirteen BRITISH colonies only became the United States by bloody war and an act of treason, taking what had been entrusted to them, and taking it from the one they had sworn allegiance to, their King, hardly a "Christian" thing to do..... People can call it what they will, but the historical facts do not support a nation founded in "Christian" principles, but founded just as ever other nation, by force and bloodshed... and well financed by France.
I'm glad to see people are grasping the point of what Christian nationalism means and how it's overall a way to bring our country back to a healthy and positive place to build a family and community overall
If a Christian nation is what we seek, would it not be better to move to an already existing Christian nation as so defined here? Aren't there some in Africa?
@@aallen5256 that was the land on which America was founded. It didn't become America until colonization because it wasn't that particular nation. You're being anachronistic.
Christian Nationalism is a political ideology. Christ did not establish a kingdom when He came and we are not charged with doing that either. This is just more foolishness from men - not God. Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith!
This is a fair and reasonable point of view - but only if it applies not only to Christian Nationalism, but to conservatism, centrism, liberalism, progressivism, democratic socialism, fascism, libertarianism, you name it. And that's exactly where a problem comes in: Most critics of so-called Christian Nationalism would never tell liberal or a libertarian or a centrist etc. etc. not to do liberal or libertarian or centrist politics. And that's, of course, incoherent.
Enforced worship on Sunday will be the MARK OF THE BEAST. Today he says, “we want to create the right conditions for Christianity.” Tomorrow they’ll scream “adhere or die, you troublers of the nation!”
_A new command I give you: _*_Love one another._*_ As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another._ -- John 13:34-35
@@whtlyg7377 Yes, yes, and when we're being shown around Heaven we'll have to walk very quietly past the Adventist area because they think they're the only ones there. Sounds like a cult to me.
@@vedinthorn they will only be in heaven thinking they are the only ones there if they are Christians in the first place. I'm done arguing the Lord's Day Sabbath with Adventists. Now I'm going to start asking their doctrinal position on who Christ is and what he's done with our sins and his work as high priest. If they are unorthodox about the person and work of Christ they're not Christians.
@@theologynerd1689 the few I've talked to seem to have that right. Thinking, however, that ritual compliance is tied to eternal destiny makes me question their actual understanding of what it is we are saved from and why.
@@vedinthorn thanks. So it would almost be like a Roman Catholic? They have the doctrine of God and Christ right but not justification by faith. Now I know to ask them about the completed work of Christ.
The bible concedes, that religion is not the basis of a nation on earth, RACE IS. You guys know this, and you are delaying the process of change till it will soon be too late (or else Christ returns.)
Amen! Just like religion is not the basis of whether you are male or female. Gen 1:27 God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. Gen 10:5 From these the coastlands of the nations were separated into their lands, every one according to his language, according to their families, into their nations. Gen 11:8 So the Lord scattered them abroad from there over the face of the whole earth; and they stopped building the city. Why did God give this people this information after extracting them out of another nation and leading them to The Promise Land? It must have had a purpose for them. When revival time came this is a recurring pattern... Neh 13:3 So when they heard the law, they excluded all foreigners from Israel. [following God's design and command] When God pleads with Israel to repent one of the commands is to look at your race for encouragement to do what is right. Isaiah 51:1-2 "Listen to me, you who pursue righteousness, Who seek the Lord: Look to the rock from which you were hewn And to the quarry from which you were dug. 2 "Look to Abraham your father And to Sarah who gave birth to you in pain; When he was but one I called him, Then I blessed him and multiplied him." Acts 17:24-27 "The God who made the world and all things in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands; 25 nor is He served by human hands, as though He needed anything, since He Himself gives to all people life and breath and all things; 26 and He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation, 27 that they would seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; When judgment comes look where people return. Isaiah 13:12-14 I will make mortal man scarcer than pure gold And mankind than the gold of Ophir. 13 Therefore I will make the heavens tremble, And the earth will be shaken from its place At the fury of the Lord of hosts In the day of His burning anger. 14 And it will be that like a hunted gazelle, Or like sheep with none to gather them, They will each turn to his own people, And each one flee to his own land.
*Christian Nationalism seeks a different messiah than Jesus. Jesus was tempted by Satan in the desert with authority to rule the whole world. He chose the way of the servant, the way of the cross, the way of loving your enemy and changing the world through nonviolent love. Christian Nationalism says “let’s take that deal”. Jesus rebuked Peter when he cut off the Roman soldier’s ear with his sword and healed him even though he was on his way to an excruciating death on the cross. A Sunday law will bring the mark of the beast eventually*
A Sunday Law IS the Mark of the Beast and his authority, and he makes it his boast. The Sabbath is God's Mark of Authority signed in the Ten Commandments as the Day to Remember and keep Holy.
Really? Or is that your secular influenced worldview? Is that a historical Christian position or ideas promoted by God hating, Christian hating unbelievers?
@@Michael_Chandler_Keaton My guess is that 98%, maybe 99%, of Protestant church goers reject Sola Fide. What do you think we should do with all these folks in a Christian nation?
The truths of your faith should be "naturally plausible" to you in the absence of civil law. If you need to control the mechanisms of law and government to make this "plausibility" a reality. This attests to an utter failure of your religious and spiritual leadership. As it speaks clearly to your "gospel" as being nothing more than superstition. Your gospel is the source of your ruin. Given it's your gospel, inspired by Romans 13, that compels you into efforts no more viable and plausible than a man who's determined to catch his shadow. That is, Christian Nationalism is utter foolishness.
@@fotzegamingandmedia1840, thanks for your response. I agree without exceptions. Christian Nationalism despoils the kingdom of heaven. It has us believe that realizing the truths and revelations that attest to Jesus requires the political mechanisms of the state. If this were so, why didn't Jesus ally himself with a king, a king's legate, or cobble together an army to settle and defend his church? These wolves reduce Christianity to be no better than Judaism and Islam, both of which demand the chaotic messiness of a state to make these religions and their proclaimed truths viable. Jesus makes us aware that we'll meet Him face to face whether we profess or believe in Him (Matthew 12:36-37). And this is our reality, whether a state or nation exists anywhere in the world.
@@notofthischurch2822 It is a sad state of affairs that Protestantism, that for so long opposed that tormentor and oppressor of God's people, will soon give power back to Baptized Roman Pagan Worship. The rise of Christian Nationalism will usher in the Time of the End.
Doesn't the mere fact of someone trying to base his politics and legislation on a particular ethics make it reasonable to believe this ethic is already plausible to him?
@@jan-matthisweng4437, thanks for your response and your question. The phrase "naturally plausible" infers "in the absence of force." The contention that plausibility is relative, in that it's "plausible to him," infers the need for force to accomplish the ethic. It is one thing for our sense of ethics and morality to inform what the politician effects as law. It is far another thing for the lawmaker to impose his ethics or sense of morality upon the masses through law. To be informed means your Lord guides you. To impose means that you affect yourself as Lord. Christian nationalism argues for the latter. Jesus don't need no flag to be "Jesus."
