What is Divergent Thinking? 

Thank you for this excellent birthday present, Daryl!

Hey Happy Birthday! I totally timed it like this on purpose 😅

@@DarylTalksGames Hey, thanks! :D Since I'm here I might leave this out, a video suggestion: I love rhythm games. I find them very fun to play. I have not found any video on what makes them so appealing to certain players like myself. Is there any psychology behind it? I'd love to know! Thanks for your hard work! Your videos are great!

I have a question, would this mean smarter people are less creative? And vice versa? *Bam is a simp for rachel*

@@verysnaky7921 To put it simply, yesno. We can consider "smart" whatever we want it to be in modern society. Currently, the general census is that people who are good at math, science, and/or English are "smart". At the same time, our standards of intelligence testing are far too controversial and favoring to have truly mean anything in the grand scheme of things. Just because you are good at school subjects does not mean you are GOOD at being creative, but that also doesn't mean you are BAD at being creative. In the end, you can be whatever you want to be, because even if you're a failure at school, maybe your skills just don't fit their metrics.

All they need is fridge letter magnets and minecraft, it's that simple.

In a certain way, you are not *that* wrong; yes, we need basic education to function in society, but we also need home education to not be limited by our flawed education system.

Antivaxxer parents are ahead of the curve. They make sure their kids don't live past preschool.

To be fair, there is quite a few geniuses that was self taught or homeschooled.

@@stonii8385 It could be because the way school is structured it results in creativity being limited, so when someone doesn't fit into the mold that school crafts for them then it could be that their creative mind need to be free to think, and create, so while its generally considered a bad idea to be self taught or homeschooled its understandable to think that the geniuses who dropped out or were homeschooled could create such imaginative and wondrous things that made them famous

Arie Elberian I definitely thought you were going to rickroll me... I got lucky.

i can't relate, i neve experienced paralysis, only thrill or simple relief i don't have to get frustrated when im yet again confined to performing to a script someone wrote of what was throught to be "the right way". you just think of multiple strategies and then go with whichever has the best fun-convenience ratio or simply matches ur mood/personality. i see problem solving as nothing different from art, it's also a tool for self expression and endless creativity. kinda why i got extra disappointed when i went into STEM and despite talent i changed career path bc i saw the reality of working in it is puzzle solving not problem solving. switched to graphic design and saw the same attitude is there outside the rare instances of more artistic and bold projects. very saddening so now i will be trying my best to just do illustration/comics, whatever with hopes of one day being able to just be creative full time.

I think the issue is that BotW designs for the most part puzzles instead of problems, but the system is more suited for problem solving. Which means that puzzles can be easily, not only solved, but even bypassed. To the point you wonder what was the point for the elements you didn't interact with to be there. I don't feel like an adventurer who solved a difficult problem, I feel like a QA tester who's picking up the pace of a lazy designer.

@Arie Elberian Adam Millard has another one too, i consider it as a parallel Game Maker's Toolkit, the way they focus a theme is so similar. Different narration of course: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BPD9yaEr7Z8.html&pp=sAQA

Except climbing for some reason.

The great plateau is an exeption but to be fair that is a tutorial (it teleports you back when you try to leave even though you could easly fall damage cancel or climb down the wall)

And one of the few glitches they patched out we're the Trial of the Sword glitch and one method of getting out of the Dark Beast Ganon fight. They could've patched out every glitch(Menu Overloading being one of them), but they didn't. Those only enhanced the game, and the ones that got patched out were so broken they HAD to be patched

There ARE a few exceptions. Shrines disallow climbing on most of the walls, and in the release version making campfires or lighting peppers for artificial updrafts worked in shrines but they disabled that in a patch because it made it too easy to skip most shrines with barely any creativity. I THINK they left octoballoon functionality alone, but that could be wrong and it's a lot more niche anyway.

It's a single player game so there's a lot of room for that. In multiplayer games things like Genji's "triple jump"(resetting double jump with wall climbs) can be problematic

Did you mean correct interpretation? Grammar aside, I can see where you're coming from. I also took a Humanities strand for senior high school and decided to lean most heavily on my literature classes. A lot of the time, our teachers would always give the cut-and-dry meanings or intent behind a work. They didn't ask us to give our thoughts or interpretations of the works. They didn't give us time to think about what the writers meant. They just simply gave us what *they* think it meant. It's a general issue that I think really highlights the issues with the educational system nowadays. Everyone's been limited to such a small worldview that when it comes to being creative and doing something that doesn't have a solution set in stone, it becomes more difficult.

Welp...this comment just made the ending of one of my favorite animes all the more...deeper than I gave it credit for... (TTGL if anyone is curious)

I joined a project that sends young people to ireland for 3 months in order to study english language. Despite everyone in the group and even the organizer, one of them being a certified translator, said that my english was incredibly great; in the actual college course i constantly got relatively bad grades, especially compared to my group colleagues, because most of the tests and assignments were more about "theoretical grammar", stuff like past and future tense. I learned english by playing F2P MMOs and trying to decipher quest and item descriptions whose words i didnt learn yet. As well of course trying to communicate with other players. Later on i joined english-language forums and chatrooms. I dont know how to apply grammatic rules and can't distinguish exact temporal versions of a phrase. I just use the words in a way it feels... natural? Do british kids ever think about whether their sentences is in simple past or past continuous?

Neko Imouto American here, but no. Does anyone think that way about grammar-in any language? We don’t start from a theoretical perspective to construct ideas; we tinker from the time we’re babies and through understanding messages and testing ways to express ourselves come to understand subtle differences. Formal education can help refine that sense or get a deeper grasp on the underlying logic, but even people who become linguists don’t refer to the specific grammar structures they’re using at every level of abstraction each time they wanna order a piece of cake or rant about the inconsistencies of clothing sizes. It would be crazy inefficient and they’d be unable to keep up with even the most basic conversations However, whenever there’s a noticeable disconnect with the literal meaning of what’s being said and what they think the speaker means they may ask a question or if they want to say something but they don’t know just how to phrase it they may ponder possible articulations. The more creative and/or technical something gets, the more important it becomes in order to accurately parse what’s being said, but it’s never the _default_ mode of thinking. It’s a tool. In certain environments, like classrooms, tho people can get a sort of bubble mentality. But no, “He went” and “He was going” and “He will have been going” are all just intuitively understood In a similar vein to what you said, I watched a language teacher on RU-vid recently who described her friend’s experience going to take the JLPT N1 (the highest level of the Japanese Language Proficiency Test for foreigners to document their ability in Japanese). According to her friend, the exam proctors were making basic comments to the test-takers in Japanese such as “Let me know if you have any questions.” or “We have pencils if you need them.” and they _all_ (that she saw) got visibly uncomfortable and ended up responding in English. Despite many of those people being minutes away from taking and passing the highest level of a test designed to indicate foreign language ability they still weren’t comfortable enough to have a basic conversation. That’s because they aren’t tested on conversation and that’s not what they studied. They study abstract grammar concepts (“grammar points”, they call it) and learn effective study and test-taking methods. The test would have questions about which word or structure fits the best in a given situation, but it has no way of measuring someone’s more fundamental level of fluency (fluidity) in the language I ask you, which is more practical, to have only the abstract understanding of grammar and a sizable vocabulary or only the fluency that even young children with limited vocabulary and education have? I imagine it depends on whether you want to talk to people and use the language in your daily life or whether you want to take tests and analyze grammar structures. Not that one can’t lead to the other, but they don’t _necessarily_ follow each other and one certainly isn’t an indicator of the other. However, if there’s one that should be learned first, what would be more effective? Logically, if we can already get around in the language (even if we don’t always 100% understand every aspect of everything being said), then anything we learn will enhance our understanding. On the other hand, if we only know the theory but have no practice, we probably aren’t actually understanding it correctly and therefore building this big framework that only later we’ll find out we have to dismantle piece by piece as we “playtest” it and find out where it fails, as well as building in all the added complexities of casual speech as “patches” instead of part of the whole. Not to mention not having any practice means we also have no level of actual skill/ability in _using_ the language (hence the answering in English)

I noticed that about school; it often felt more like you were being taught how to pass premade tests than anything else. They didn't want creativity, nor did they really want you to think; just regurgitate the answers they spoon fed you over the year onto the test, collect your pretty little As, then get to the real world and discover many jobs are the same way. Try to think or improve on the process and you're told to shut up and color.

I think the mentality comes from exploits being "cheating" of cheating in a lot of games. Whether it be multiplayer or just something that trivializes singleplayet and makes people not think of something as a real achievement. That's where people go wrong when they try to learn about speedrunning and watching it. Exploits are not "cheating". They are encouraged. They are actively searched for to improve on time. I think if someone says your any% run is cheating tell them to just go watch glitchless% runs. Good analysis dude.

Also, side note, the BOTW devs actually wanted people to find different solutions and exploit everything the game allows (implying glitches too) from the start. I don't have a link, but I remember hearing them talk about the "freedom" the game allows a lot during marketing. And they were right too! It's one of the thigs that makes BOTW so great.

@@RobinNashVideos You should get BOTW, it comes with a free link... and a zelda too... ok i will see myself out.

Completely agree with you, the definition of cheating is completely circumstantial and is defined by most casual players as “breaking from the intended path”, and that’s completely fine - but in a single player experience where your actions do not affect anyone outside of the game, it is entirely up to you what you define as cheating. I run Celeste myself and it’s been fascinating to learn how the devs not only included rewards for figuring out obscure game mechanics like the chapter 2 heart, but also how they’ve adapted to and encouraged divergent thinking in the community when new exploits or unintended behaviour is discovered. For example, somebody discovered a technique which we call demo dashing, which essentially gives you a crouching hitbox while dashing and allows you to fit through gaps between spikes that should be impenetrable. Instead of patching out this behaviour, the devs widened some spike gaps by a pixel or two to be more lenient for demo dashing, and even included a secret area in the DLC only accessible by demo dashing. To outsiders, demo dashing seems like cheating, because you’re going straight through death walls, and I’ve seen numerous people new to the community complain about their allowance in submitted runs. But if you take the time to learn that the devs actively encouraged this behaviour, you realise that it wouldn’t fall under the general definition of cheating, and you come to appreciate the game and the intentions in its development on a much deeper level, because you understand how they rewarded somebody’s divergent thinking.

imo if this isn't a competitive game and ur not messing with its code then this isn't cheating, period.

I think this isn’t natural, too. This creativity is sucked form us through school and work.

The education system shall know PAIN!

What schools claim to bolster: - Knowledge and creativity What schools actually bolster: - Obedience and consensus.

Your just prejudice against blocks. Block lives matter you bigot.

I agree with all of these. School sucks it out, even when you KNOW what it's doing.

"Why are you booing me? I'm right."

In a world where we all live in 1.16 this man lives in pre 1.13/ bedrock

@@jotarokujo5849 like everyone should be, 1.9 ruined mc dont @me

If only this command could still work. I don't mind them adding new ways to do commands, but removing older, quicker ways is just dumb, like why even do that? Doesn't that take effort? (Maybe it's the opposite, which would explain, but still, it can't be that hard right?) Other than that though, auto correct features have really improved, so aside from that one thing, I'd say commands are a lot better now then they used to be.

ah, the good old days of taking like 2 seconds to type which gamemode you want to change to and them mistyping it and dying due to giving yourself survival instead spectator mode

Your comment just made me realize why I hated playing the VRPGs (verbal RPG lol) this one friend of mine would make. He designed his games to only have one solution- completely antithetical to the medium. I wanted to explore and try and solve things in my way, but I would always fail if I didn’t guess the specific solution that he came up with.

EXACTLY, this is so rewarding to hear the DM says, ``i never tought you would do that``, you know you have found a solution he never anticipated. As a DM I once tried to put a challenge with no clear solution. It was not necessary to overcome it, so they wouldn't get stuck, but they had small reward if solved. The challenge was simply to cross a large gap. No magic bridge or clever switch, just cross it however you can. I tought they would use magic, try jumping, climbing, or whatever. Instead they got into the previous room where I mentioned tall bookshelf, flip it, and make an improvised bridge how of it. It was amazing to watch and the player were so satisfied with their own solution.

@@Player-si5rx Bro, I'm practicing for DM, and i'm totally following that.

@@_-lariant-_5206 hahaha, I do hope that means you're already DM'ing. There's only one way to truly learn how to DM, and that's to start DM'ing (though it is useful to learn what others are doing).

its also the perfect way to make your DM laugh and cry at the same time

Not even intended but the most engaging. There were a couple of shrines I did "wrong" because that was just the most interesting/fun option. (Motion control shrines)

@squidbro6635 I've broken through a gate in god of war II while trying to figure out what I was supposed to do. Game didn't know what to do after that.

I do not know if you can use however only at the start of a sentence anymore, but I remember using it at the end the the teacher told me the exercise was about using it at the start of the sentence. I will use it wherever I want it, however. Mark it wrong I don't care.

Same here. Just look at my name and profile picture

@@nonamea9177 You could've been "No name, eh?".

@@nullpoint3346 that just proves the point that he has never been correct or creative

My name shows just how un creative I am and my grammar shows just how poorly educated I am.

@@killerbug05 I just misspelled nameless

Sadly, while negative results can be (and often are) a great progress, they are notoriously hard to publish. That more often than not forces multiple groups go through the same dead ends.

@@Alche_mist I didn't know that, and that does sound bad.

literally my senior thesis at uni proved that no, you can't do x thing the way i thought of cuz it's not as effective as doing it normally and my advisor said this is by no means a failure. a failure would be not doing the experiment properly, not processing the data right etc. but the result coming out as negative is as good as any. i got max grade on this btw. (the thesis alone cuz my defense was not perfect lol).

Ngl, I’ve come very close to changing the name of the channel to something less specific and talking anime on occasion

@@DarylTalksGames Daryl Talks works too I suppose

@@DarylTalksGames Personally, I think you should feel more free to explore analyses you'd like to make, it sounds annoying to be restricted if an anime has something you find interesting to talk on. Maybe if you're concerned with the community you could ask too. Either way I think you're doing a great job.

@@DarylTalksGames It think Daryl's Thoughts is good

@@DarylTalksGames Can always do a second channel if you want to keep your original branding

*comprete

And from his speaking and choice of clips to use i have been able to deduce that he is without a reasonable doubt A Man Of Culture.

@@takemetoyonk yes, i saw it before you but I am too lazy

@@takemetoyonk no no, you got it wrong, it's _c o m p u r é t t o_

What’s the movie at 5:38

I used to do this before we were allowed to use calculators. I moved around a lot, so I switched schools a lot, so obviously I missed some things because I wasn't there to learn them. (I don't know my times tables) Teachers would get mad that I got the answer, but would not do multiplication. Instead of multiplying, I would add the number over and over and over to itself, because I could not do multiplication, Which is bullcrap because I understand how it's done and how to do it, I just don't have a way of doing it the proper way, so I do it the best I can and get the answer correct. Yet teachers count that as wrong because you aren't doing it their way. (Sorry if this is worded weirdly, im not good at organizing my thoughts.)

I'm sorry that happened. You are correct, worms and decomposers are necessary. Your teacher is a buffoon and does not know what they are talking about. Good luck with life and your art

The reason it is so hard for me to play animal crossing :')

This is why I got bored playing Animal Crossing.

Ahem Mario Odyssey

There are definitely multiple intended ways to solve some of the shrines in BotW.

any% runs are usually breaking the game as heavily as possible. In the case of OoT and MM, the game becomes something entirely different where you are literally shuffling lines of code and doing in-game programming by performing extremely precise movements and actions. I don't think this is cheating by any means, but there certainly is a division between abusing physics with things like getting off of the Plateau before the tutorial shrines and skipping to the credits sequence.

I personally speedrun shrines in botw and I totally agree with what you say : nowadays most of the wrs are just people using a windbomb to go from start to finish or using moonjump to fly over obstacles. But there is a very small community (including me) that decided that it's just not as fun and rewarding, we preferred finding creative solutions to speedrun these shrines. So we started teaming up to find routes that can surpass the boring techniques and to try to beat them. And that turned out to be really fun because it created an even bigger challenge ! Some people say that what we do is "lame" because we're not even trying to find the fastest solution but I really enjoy doing that because I prefer being creative, it makes me even more satisfied when I get "the run" ! Also the game engine makes nearly everything possible :)

any%, TAS-es, "exploiting hitboxes": cHeAtiNg iNvAliD sPeEdruN

That's bad teaching. True math is about creative thinking to solve a problem and if the problem can be solved and the way is correct, then it also should be viewed this way. Especially in math there may exist many ways for solving a problem correctly. Of course there exist some conventions one has to learn, because without them communication in academic fields would be difficult. So even if you solve a problem the correct way if you don't write it down formally correct it will be regarded as wrong, the same way spelling or grammatical errors will be considered wrong.

Whenever I do maths, I always use the most creative experience you could possibly think of. The problem is, the answer is always wrong. I did terribly at maths. Mathematics is all about doing very similar methods for one newer or using different methods and most likely getting it wrong.

Same, I always though that there was nothing wrong with thinking of 7 as 3 less than 10, to make things quicker or easier when adding things up, if I have a big number, instead of doing the whole big complicated method, I'll add up the 10's column and the 1's column separately, and then combine them. Like, if I were to add 32 + 25, I would split it into 30 + 20 and 2 + 5. 2 + 5 = 7, and then 3 + 2 = 5, so that would be 50 + 7, or 57. I mean, I learned the 'right way' to do that sort of problem, but I found that this seemed to work better for me, and it gets the job done, so just because I thought about it a little differently, I figured I shouldn't get downgraded. Heck, I should be commended for thinking outside the box and finding another method of finding the solution. That's more impressive to me than just doing what your told, you actually get to be smart, but no, apparently that's the 'wrong way' to do things, even though it works just fine. I mean, like I said, I learned the 'right way' to do it, but I honestly didn't put to much stock into using it unless I absolutely had to. I'm sure the 'right' method works for some people, but honestly this one is a bit easier, and segmented, and just looks less messy. I could be wrong, but I honestly think my method might actually be a little better for most problems/people, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who came up with it, but I'm sure that's enough out of me, so I'll end my paragraph essay here. (Gosh, I hate those things, and I think I know why, I'm supposed to write something, ok, simple enough, but instead of simply writing something, I need to write a specific kind of thing, which is a whole other can of worms, but I'll stop there because I've done enough of one already, ok bye.)

@@lukelcs8934 wait is that not how you learned it? I'm grew up in an asian country and your "wrong way" is how I learned it.

@@Chloe-lf2bv Sounds like Asian country's teach mathematics better then. XD I'm in the US myself. Try looking up the method of carrying 1's and 10's columns ect. It was called something along those lines, but I can't recall and exact name for it.

Eh, I definitely get what you're saying, but I just want to say that the rules can sorta be "broken" with something called bugs. I'm not sure on the exact definition, but according to what I've seen and heard, it's an unintended effect created as a result of the game's code. This ranges from glitches which use unintended byproducts of a code to create unintended effects or exploits which use intended game mechanics in unintended ways.

ThreeBee HD189733b Sort of, I’d say in this context glitches and exploits are more holes in the rule framework than rules being broken. The code is still there, and you’re still operating within its parameters, the devs just missed a spot. It’s the difference between the game’s programming, and its design. The game itself and its intended play. Short of hacking (and hardware issues/data corruption,) the former is inviolable, while the latter holds water only to the extent of the developers foresight.

I agree. I really enjoyed Breath of the Wild but I really enjoy more traditional Zelda puzzles. It's that "aha" moment. The same reason i love Professor Layton.

It goes at the end of all my videos, just a small way to keep his legacy alive

Ah, I had no idea. Though I am fairly new to the channel. Right on man.

Whose legacy?

@@littlefishbigmountain Googled it: Etika

My personal use of language aligns very closely with the rules of the game, so to speak. Given the choice to appear correct without even necessarily saying anything of consequence, I'll gladly take the free perks of apparent language mastery. (But of course I too yearn for the day of true missive equality, wherein our message are judged for the content they carry, not simply their window dressing. Prescriptivism sux.)

E4439qv5 I think a big part of that (if the the most important part) is not merely playing by the rules of the game of writing convention but social convention as well. I’ve seen plenty of people whose comments are technically proficient and well articulated utterly fail to make their point because they fail to understand how people think, sometimes exacerbated by making themselves appear judgmental or as if they think they’re superior in some way or even just downright pedantic even if they’re really not but people won’t listen to the point they’re really trying to make because of their writing style On the flip side, I’ve seen people with almost unintelligible spelling and syntax garner massive support through sheer charisma entirely regardless of their point (and sometimes in spite of it). And I myself have given many such comments a thumbs up :p Sometimes they’re just gold Even in formal debate, there is an etiquette, and the etiquette is just as important as the content of the debate itself. It’s similar to that

Exactly! And to me it’s the freedom to come up with goofy solutions that, despite their absurdity, get the job done. Having your own experience is fun as it turns out. Thanks man!

I'll play devils advocate here. Wouldn't freeloading off of someone else's work be considered a solution? Perhaps the student does not find the topics particularly interesting or palatable, and they would rather spend their time learning something else that they either feel is relevant to their future or is more engaging than whatever the collaborative assignment is. Just to throw a question out there: Would it be a disservice or hindrance to someone's intelligence and creativity to force them to participate in something they don't want to participate in?

A) There are some assignments that are busy work or where the task is just to find something out. Working together on those is fine, an in fact the schools I went to often recommended working together, especially if it was in-class. However, many assignments and tasks are intended to gauge your knowledge of the subject. I suppose fraud is technically a useful life skill, but we'd really rather that the student learn the subject being taught instead of how to lie better. B) It would be a disservice to just have them learn what they were interested in. Plenty of kids hate math, but it teaches systematic problem solving and also you need at least a basic level of it to get anywhere in life. I personally hated almost every English class with a passion, but an understanding of grammar and literary techniques have certainly improved my life. Especially when you're young, what you like or think is important doesn't really have any relation to the things that actually end up being useful in life. It can be said that education has been historically too strict or that we should allow course selection before college, but even then you still have to learn stuff you don't care about

@@Anthony-nc8cq Is it a solution? Kind of, but they're not learning anything substantial from that, except maybe how to abuse loopholes. They might find the subject uninteresting, but I don't believe the majority of the time that the majority of students that do this are going to utilize their own time to learn something better (it is *possible* though). I think there are times in which it is better for someone to go through a subjects they aren't interested in because it's (most likely, depends on the curriculum of course) for their own good to learn it anyway, assuming they still learn the subject and don't completely repress or forget it. Ideally something would be done in the first place so they aren't uninterested, but I imagine this would require a complete overhaul in how the education system works, which isn't easy at all.

@@racercowan To add to this, students still should go through a diverse set of subjects because people are bad at choosing what they like as well as the fact that they don't know what they don't know. Many wouldn't know they enjoy a certain topic, possibly a career changing endeavor, because they never actually tried it out in any substantial way. Education should support both guiding students through supremely important subjects they're always going to need to use, like English and Math (although to what degree is enough is on the table), and also guiding them through different auxiliary subjects to help them build their own character (Arts, etc). The way this is actually implemented is questionable, but I'll save that facet of discussion for later. A big issue I saw at my school was that assignments that were intended for practice of a subject (eg. math worksheets) were also used to gauge how well students were doing, meaning the learning and testing phase were essentially tied together; I imagine this is the norm in other schools. I see why this was done, it's hard to motivate students so giving them a grade on *any* of their work generally gets them to do it, but this seems like a fundamental flaw because it ties students to learn at a defined pace, and also makes the "learning" phase much more difficult because it has the risk of failure with punishment (ie. a bad grade), which can make some people just give up, among other issues. As for collaboration, it is definitely a good skill, it just needs to be taught in a way that actually makes sense and isn't shoehorned in. From my experience at least, having students work together on an in-class assignments usually just leads to them doing their own thing until the end of class, and just finishing it the next day or something, which isn't very effective at teaching people how to actually work together, it just facilitates them getting along (which isn't a bad thing on it's own, but the former is the important part). I think a lot of this has to do with the fact that education *is* getting marginally better with time, it's just that it keeps making bandage solutions to the much bigger issue of not teaching for the current age.

Thank you so much! I'm glad to hear you say that, it was NOT easy to write

+1 this is one of the best with no doubt.

@Daryl Talks Games I bet! I've only been theorizing about this kinda stuff but you really nailed it, to me at least! Really appreciate your hard work, it is really inspiring and educational.

Yeah season 1 BATTLE TENDENCY (not part 2 sorry) is the prime example of divergent thinking

@@xrenynthemusicmage6422 parts 7 and 8*

@@xrenynthemusicmage6422 You mean asspulls?

@@canti7951 Yeah I do mean dem asspulls 😁 I was just too dumb to look up the actual name of that story arc, which appears to be "Battle Tendency" (hence the edit above). That one inspires creativity more than any other anime I've seen so far

Yup. Because the system doesn't like playing who don't play by their rules!

Since when? he constantly looks up walkthroughs.

One natural skill that every single student picks up is to "read the room", guess the teacher's mood, the possible questions for tomorrow's test, what you can do to derail the class for the next 30 minutes...... Because of that, we've become way too sensitive at anything that can be perceived as a "hidden instruction". And just the mention of "be creative" would narrow down one's approach considerably

right??? and when i see there are even more fun ways to solve it then i might even go back on purpose just to solve it again another way. this is most fun

Adventure games weren't killed by that, the issue was more a combination of tastes shifting (the expectation was now to beat a game in a week, rather than half a year - when Roberta Williams started making her games, the opposite was true. It's a HUGE shift) and puzzles being garbled nonsense for time crunch reasons - cat hair mustaches and so on stem from that, rather than intended design that the designers wanted to be that way. Plus, the one advantage adventure games had (graphics and narrative) were becoming possible more and more in other genres due to increased disk space. You ended up with a genre designed for a customer taste that was still there, but dwarfed in numbers by new players mostly wanting shooters, with its advantages gone, and which suffered heavily from the extra dev time needed due to new hardware - dev time they didn't get.

@Fluffynator I second your opinion.

HOT DAMN. Dude I can’t watch like more than 2 at once, props to you, all excellent choices 👌🏼

aye, what a coincidence, I'm watching the same! Except Naruto. I only saw Shippuden and never got around to watching part one Dx

@@lenaalt2387 hahah I had the same I finished shippuuden a while ago, but I wanted more naruto so I was like welp P1 it is