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SHOW TIME-STAMPS
0:00 Intro
9:04 Dennis-NY | Friends Claim God Cured Me!
25:05 Steve-VA | What is Lack of Belief?
47:23 Alex-FL | A Theist Who Defines God! Wow!
50:41 William-(AU) | Unexplained Events After Family Member’s Passing
57:12 Guillermo-CA | Why Not Believe Biblical History?
1:06:06 Mike-WA | How to Get Christians to Understand Biblical Hypocrisy
1:25:12 Austin-WI | You People Are Wasting Your Time
SHOW NOTES
Hello all you atheists (and theists) out there! In today’s episode of the Atheist Experience, Matt Dillahunty is joined by Jenna Belk, who we’re all happy to see return! Welcome back to the co-host chair, Jenna!
This episode (and all episodes hereafter) is dedicated to Ed Breyton. Ed has been an integral part of the ACA over the years and while he isn’t as active as he once was, he will always be remembered. Thank you, Ed!
Let’s get to calls. The first caller is Dennis in New York. He was in the hospital for a time (due to illness) and his Christian friends say his condition improved due to God. Thankfully he knows his improvement was due to doctors’ diligence and treatment.
Are rocks atheist? Oh no, not this question. Steve in Virginia switched up his original question from ‘What is the lack of belief?’ to the weird rock question...sigh. To answer the original question: for explicit atheism, it requires a conscious being who is able to determine and evaluate this. There’s plenty of philosophical ground to be covered here!
Hold up! We have a theist on the line who would like to start out defining God buuut, he segways and pivots to questioning the Big Bang cosmological event. What does this have to do with the definition of God? And we don’t have time for you, goodbye!
William in Australia claims to have seen his grandfather in a vision after he passed. We are sorry for your loss William. It can be a comfort to have these unexplained events occur and feel a connection to your lost family member. Instead of feeling as though it’s a message from them, think of it as a good remembrance of them.
Guillermo in California asks why we believe in history, but not biblical history. Jenna asks the all important question, “Why should we believe the Bible?” Also, history books don’t generally use metaphors within the texts.
Mike in Washington is wondering how to show other Christians the hypocrisy in the Bible and also how to reconcile it. This caller is a theist and this turns out to be a really interesting call.
Austin in Wisconsin says it’s ok to believe or not believe. Uh, sure?. He also thinks there is a war between atheists and theists. Is there really? He also thinks that we are wasting our time and it isn’t worth spending time on the truth. But we aren’t wasting our time, nice try.
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@adabsurdum5905 4 года назад

*Patrick raises hand* "Is mayonnaise an atheist?"

@cy-one 4 года назад

@pan dimensional super being bojangles 1) not really a correction, but your take on things 2) also not a correction, but a question 3) doesn't matter - as long as I have no reasonable and sufficient evidence for whatever god your posing, I won't believe in it.

@adabsurdum5905 4 года назад

@pan dimensional super being bojangles yeah that is some super useless naval gazing right there, buddy. Whatever walks there walks alone.

@EKDupre 4 года назад

(I got your reference)

@Llamapuncher 3 года назад

Mayonnaise a lot of dense ass theists.

@trustinjesus1119 3 года назад

@@Llamapuncher No holy person makes theistic claims, *GOD* is not the belief in gods, they're _different_ and *incompatible terms.* That uneducated Dillahunty doesn't know the difference and begs for big money, and then you saying "dense" (or "dunce") would be letting him out of his eternal sentence in hell for everything he's said and done. _He_ can't repent. By virtue of being in jail for almost a year, never sinned once in my life, I spent that year of my life in the company of murderers. A lot of common criminals in and out of jail they'd be there over a weekend or one week night and get released, a lot of "fed-kicks," but not the murderers and not what I pled guilty to, and so there we were. Love means never having to say you're sorry, and yet those murderers do say "sorry." But not Matt. What I liken Matt Dillahunty to, what betokens the reason for him existing, is standing the body of someone he murdered and being so blind to reality he doesn't even try to cover it up, and experiences continual delusion of what he is without apology. Murderers _know_ what they did, not your guy, not the guy you've attached yourself to he's so cowardly he's never been in the presence of everything he's arguing against. Not a lot of times, but I'm a worship leader. I've been responsible for leading The Children of the Greater GOD into His Holy Presence, leading all of us into The Shekinah Glory. But Matt claims he came from church and denies ever reality he uses as his statement of conversion, his claim to authority by *prior experience* he says he never had. Sorry for the length, please don't respond "tl;dr" just ignore this instead. I talk because it at least helps me.

@RealEstateDatabase256 4 года назад

... and so rocks are vegetarian, since they don't eat meat.

@dagan5698 4 года назад

rocks also dont say stupid shit, so i dont hate them half as much as some of these idiots.

@dave3657 4 года назад

Rocks are also nudists since they don't wear clothes.

@annk.8750 4 года назад

@J w No, to phrase this using exact opposites, you believe something exists or you do not believe it exists. The verb that needs a yes-or-no opposite is "believe", not "exists". A god exists or does not exist. A belief exists or does not exist. Those two are not the same.

@trustinjesus1119 4 года назад

The brain can't jump back and forth among religious moorings, i.e. born atheism from Christian, to atheism, to Christian to atheism. Our brains are not _evaluative_ or *supervisory.*

@tysondog843 4 года назад

@J w Is there intelligent alien life?

@andrewpagan6266 4 года назад

This guy knew exactly what they meant, but he was so determined to try and trap them that he completely failed to recognize it.

@ralfhaggstrom9862 4 года назад

He is Not very smart, is he ? ..............

@trustinjesus1119 4 года назад

@@ralfhaggstrom9862 You know the holy accept God as real not leprechauns and you pretend not to be able to note the difference.

@ralfhaggstrom9862 4 года назад

@@trustinjesus1119 A fairy tale about Magic is still a fairy tale about Magic, whoever the Sorcerer is ! ............ Give me PROOF .............

@Julian0101 4 года назад

@@trustinjesus1119 Comparing a fictional being with another fictional being doesnt make much difference.

@S2MiaS2 4 года назад

TBH I think that jesuswhatever is a bot...

@geezzerboy 2 года назад

Steve uses a tremendous amount of energy suppressing the anger and rage in his voice.

@KXSocialChannel 3 года назад

“To pee or not to pee; That is the question.” - Will Shakespeare

@brucebaker810 3 года назад

Well? Willy Pee?

@charliedsurf1267 3 года назад

"Am I peeing, or not?" - old guy on youtube.

@brucebaker810 3 года назад

@@charliedsurf1267 "Am I peeing on You...too?" -- an old guy. Anywhere.

@brucebaker810 3 года назад

To peanut or not to peanut. _That..._ is the legume.

@ThePixel1983 3 года назад

Hard to stay serious once you heard "If you accept per..."

@TheCheapPhilosophy 4 года назад

By the absurd, every rock is better than every and any God: Rocks do not require FAITH to believe they exist, and we all can agree they do! Beat that, any God!

@seraphinaaizen6278 3 года назад

As a Scottish person, I am contractually obligated by the Scottish tourism board to assert that the Loch Ness Monster is definitely real. It's true! We take turns piloting the little remote control head around the loch and everything!

@AndyCampbellMusic 3 года назад

As an even more Scottish person than you I can confirm this is true. Unfortunately I lost my job for speeding. They said I was going too fast for the tourists to take pictures and fired me...😭

@AlDunbar 3 года назад

@@AndyCampbellMusic you are, both of you, no true scotsmen, if you spread those lies about Nessie!

@AndyCampbellMusic 3 года назад

@@AlDunbar Say what you like pal... You're not the one who lost his job and has now taken to drink.....😡

@AlDunbar 3 года назад

@@AndyCampbellMusic my condolences. And, if you have taken to drink, then I withdraw my "no true scotsman" complaint. ;-)

@Madman-ym8dh 3 года назад

@@AndyCampbellMusic Taken to drink? I think we can safely conclude that you are a true Scotsman. Sorry about the stereotype.

@isaiahbangura4421 4 года назад

George Carlin talking about religion is how my friend started questioning Christianity.

@damyr 4 года назад

Comedy is the best way to teach people. And George Carlin was a master teacher.

@trustinjesus1119 4 года назад

@@damyr What's Carlin & Dillahunty's position on the Divine, is it a joke?

@cy-one 4 года назад

@@trustinjesus1119 Yes, the divine is a joke.

@jpapan1 4 года назад

@@trustinjesus1119 "What is all this shit about angels? Have you heard this? Three out of four people now, believe in angels. What're you, fucking stupid? Has everybody lost their f***ing minds in this country? Angels, shit. You know what I think it is? I think it's a massive collective psychotic chemical flashback of all the drugs -- all the drugs -- smoked, swallowed, snorted, shot, and absorbed rectally by all Americans from 1960 to 1990. Thirty years of adulterated street drugs'll get you some f***ing angels, my friend

@peteryyz43 4 года назад

Isaiah Bangura: Exactly. I loved it when George once compared the 'Three Little Pigs' book to the Bible in terms of truth in its claims.

@seraphinaaizen6278 4 года назад

This guy had no interest whatsoever in a conversation. He just wanted to rile up Matt by deliberately misunderstanding.

@trustinjesus1119 4 года назад

Matt says, "Atheism is a single position on a single issue." It's logically impossible for a normal person _not_ to understand, and it's a logically impossible to advance or improve on that in the second-person. What is the position and what is the single issue?

@seraphinaaizen6278 4 года назад

@@trustinjesus1119 The position is: "I do not believe" The issue is: "A god exists".

@Julian0101 4 года назад

@@trustinjesus1119 Wow, you really got butthurt, but making assertions like "It's logically impossible for a normal person not to understand" just show how dsperate you are.

@trustinjesus1119 4 года назад

@@Julian0101 I'm desperate for your religious attention and worship! I'm not here advocating for myself. Is that the idea you got about these religious disputes? Who wins by claiming the other side's person giving the argument is a better person?

@Julian0101 4 года назад

@@trustinjesus1119 "I'm not here advocating for myself" Sure, that is why you are not spamming this comment section at all. Sadly your nonseuqitor wont change you being butthurt.

@ZomnusZloth 4 года назад

Jenna is actually such a beautiful human being. She admits when she doesn't know something, takes the time to try and understand the gap in her knowledge, and does so with genuine humility. I'm so glad she's on the show as often as she is.

@Dan_C604 4 года назад

Aside from the confusing caller, this discussion between Matt and Jenna was particularly interesting and refreshing. Thank you!

@greaylinmyers966 4 года назад

I love this channel but sometimes the callers are so clueless it’s hard to listen to a full podcast... Matt I don’t see how you do brother

@melind82 4 года назад

These calls are so confusing to listen to. Its like the caller is completely unable to resolve the conflict between someone saying they don't believe that gods exist and their holy books saying otherwise.

@asherikamichaela8425 4 года назад

A variation on the "You know God is real, you just don't want to accept Him because you like sin" excuse, really. And I'm like "No, that's seriously not how that works. 🤦‍♀️"

@tonyhogg9839 4 года назад

My home church pastor would say this from time to time and several people would shout amen. That even the Muslims know they are wrong, they just don't want to follow Jesus. Now I see that all these Muslims or Buddists aren't going around kowing they have the wrong religion. That is rediculous.

@Ploskkky 4 года назад

There is no real lack of understanding in the caller, but it is actively suppressed by the fear of the burden of proof. The reason for that is that virtually every theist knows they will for all eternity spectacularly fail at delivering that proof. Just listen to the obfuscating slow babble of the caller. His brain is working hard to keep away from the truth that his staring him in the face: You have nothing. You are empty handed. Your christianity is a hoax.

@Theroha 3 года назад

@@asherikamichaela8425 That training never made sense to me. Even when I was religious, I knew that if you really wanted to sin then working with Jesus made the most sense. If following him meant forgiveness of sins, then I should follow him because the big sins like murder, theft, and adultery were sins I wasn't interested in committing in the first place.

@asherikamichaela8425 3 года назад

@@Theroha Right? 😄 Sure, some apologist/theist would probably say that atheists are such because we don't want to feel _guilty_ for said "sins," never mind that most of them aren't even all that detrimental to literally anyone, if at all. But yeah, if somebody was actually worried about that (already at least halfway into the whole Christianity thing by that point), the easiest thing would be to go full believer. Using logic and skepticism are harder.

@Blubb5000 4 года назад

Lack in belief is a *blessing* (Pun intended)

@johnlopperman2161 4 года назад

Chris If stripped of its' religious connotations, I'd say it IS a blessing, making life so very relative and more fully livable to to an individual, offering all that is real and evident. No religious chains & shackles and ghosts hanging on your back. It's called FREEDOM.

@halohero147 4 года назад

You could also describe a rock as unemployed because it lacks a job. But that would be ridiculous because a rock lacks the ability to have a job. Just like a rock lacks the ability to believe.

@joseacevedo8314 4 года назад

Just the rocks in my yard would really hurt Trump's unemployment numbers!

@jimtrue1465 4 года назад

I have a rock that does indeed have a job. Its job is a doorstop. But I don't pay it, and it never had a choice in the matter. So I guess the rock is a slave.

@ZapperguyLOL 4 года назад

I believe in rocks.

@trustinjesus1119 4 года назад

The word "lack" as you're using it doesn't condition the word job. "Atheism is a religion like bald is a hair color." Coloring hair and having hair is not conditioning "atheism" in that sentence.

@TheRealCatof 4 года назад

@@trustinjesus1119 What you wrote made zero sense, did you just have a stroke?

@cyn3rgy759 4 года назад

After reading this title I was expecting a discussion on atheist rock bands. I was going to offer up some awesome atheist metal albums.

@jdsartre9520 3 года назад

"I was going to offer up some awesome atheist metal albums." You still can, and should. I'm curious if there is such a thing. I guess DIO wouldn't qualify, Last in Line. Ima go listen to it now.

@alanthomson7770 3 года назад

The Stones?

@PierredeCur 3 года назад

@@jdsartre9520 Nightwish's album based on Dawkins' The Greatest Show on Earth. :-)

@kirklarson4536 2 года назад

Not metal, but XTC's Dear God.

@Krikenemp18 2 года назад

I wouldn't call them "atheist rock" but Hail the Sun has a few songs tackling the existential dread that the universe doesn't care about us and there may not be a god looking after our wellbeing ("Cosmic Narcissism," "Devaluation").

@AlexWh1 4 года назад

Every single definitions of the noun "atheist" I've ever heard/saw always started with the same word : Someone. So no, a rock isn't AN atheist.

@adamheywood113 4 года назад

Those definitions would carry the implication the person is defining an _explicit_ atheist; i.e. a person capable of understanding or conceptualising what a "deity" is, and then being aware that they don't believe it exists. There is such a thing as _implicit_ atheism, where you cannot assume they _do_ believe in a deity because it's not obvious they even understand what that means and they may not even have a brain in order to understand. Also I'd like to add, for context, that I wrote this comment before watching all of the video.

@trustinjesus1119 4 года назад

That's nothing more than a phenomenally poor attempt at trying to define your religion into existence. There is one definition for God and seventeen definitions for gods fantastically demonstrating the two are in different categories.

@Julian0101 4 года назад

@@trustinjesus1119 Nope, your definition of god is just one more of the bunch, which puts it in the same category.

@romankvapil9184 4 года назад

Trustinjesus, that’s called special pleading. Try again.

@KieranDevvs 4 года назад

The implicit/explicit does the argument more justice. "Someone" is a social construct, there are other species other than the homosapien that can hold beliefs. A dog for example can believe its owner is in a certain room to find that he/she is not there. Does that make the dog an atheist because it can hold a belief but shows no sign of worship to a deity? The answer is no because the argument also requires the conscience being, to be aware of theism before it can be rejected.

@jesse_cole 4 года назад

It's ridiculous that some creationist people try to play this weird semantic game... "If I can define atheist as someone who believes there is no god, then I can argue against the logic of holding that philosophical position and say that, therefore, atheism is wrong." Sure... ya could, but you'd be no closer to solving the problem you really want to solve. There's no way to prove "God" by discrediting the logic of "atheism." Even if all "atheists" were somehow wrong about the meaning of their own label (and they're not), the position "I am not convinced a god exists until I see some actual evidence" is still the entirely correct and rationally safe position to take. Neither the validity or soundness of the modern atheist position would change if you were somehow able to show that Matt or some other modern atheist isn't actually an "atheist" by your definition of the word. You'd still be at square one with respect to proving "God" or demonstrating that "God" is a belief we'd be justified in holding. You're wasting your time with this.

@gazza595 4 года назад

It's a rather childish game that's played to try and trip the atheist and claim that "really, the atheists do believe" many theists will pull all manner of contortions to try and get an atheist to that position. Some of the regular theist trolls that post on here try it.

@agodfortheatheistnow 4 года назад

Jesse Cole Bad oMaN the proof is called science and quantum physics.... the laws of physics, they all fit together as we create the universe by taking the Movement of ideas and attributing mass to them upon OBSERVING them move in order to assign them their part in our ever expanding universe...later we take their frequencies in terms of angstroms decibels and wave pressures to create the sights and sounds and experiences that GIVE LIFE MEANING, just as Einstein pointed out....”It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure.” It has not been lost upon me that the several MORONS who claim there is no proof, have at no point supplied any EVIDENCE whatsoever that my own observations are in any way lacking in terms of the SCIENTIFIC PRINCIPLES on which they are obviously based... the FACTS are ignored by atheists in their attempt to blow smoke up my ass by using words like nonsense or word salad while at no point addressing the issues such as the INFORMATION contained in those virtual reality disturbances in the quantum wave field of nothingness of our at rest universe....... which has not been “at rest” for 13.8 BILLION years thanks to god, AKA “I think therefore I AM”.... 13.8 billion years started with the action reaction of who where why how when what and subsequent CREATION since at the time there were ZERO ANSWER AVAILABLE and according to the minus one law of the conservation of information which the I AM God , has to come up with and add the MASS attribute to RELATIVE to the ENERGY required to MOVE that information into our ever expanding universe at the speed of light THUS E=MC2... and the creation of this virtual reality perception of a universe that is actually just the frequencies of that light based on those disturbances in the quantum wave field of nothingness....... You stupid assholes NEED EVIDENCE OF YOUR OWN TO DISPROVE MY THEORY... stop being RU-vid HATERS... just because I do not agree with YOUR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS about the Big Bang theory.

@agodfortheatheistnow 4 года назад

Jesse Cole semantics? I have described the exact process used to create this virtual reality expression of the SINGULARITY which is CREATING this our existence using the process of E=MC2 to turn movement of frequencies stored as the dark matter and antimatter perception of angstroms decibels and wave pressures into the SIGHTS SOUNDS AND EXPERIENCES..... we perceive as our physical existence....... and no atheists has EVER brought forth ANY EVIDENCE... to prove me wrong..... right from the very beginning of the MINUS ONE LAW OF THE CONSERVATION OF INFORMATION... through all the action reaction laws of motion and physics .... of course there is an edge to the universe, but at the speed it is moving and expanding, you can’t move fast enough to ever reach it.

@agodfortheatheistnow 4 года назад

Stefan Dingenouts either way why do they even care? I asked god to show me that he existed. He knew I wanted proof and simply said, I cannot prove to you that I exist .... many years later I realized it was because if god were to prove he exist, that would take away my inalienable right to choose to not believe in god. The highest moral authority would never violate the inalienable right of a self actuating entity to choose to not believe in god...

@jesse_cole 4 года назад

@@agodfortheatheistnow So you think that God didn't show himself to you because it would violate your right to not believe in him? Matt has addressed this issue several times, actually. In the Bible story, God revealed himself directly to Lucifer... but Lucifer still chose to defy God. So it seems free will is not the reason that God doesn't reveal himself. Try again.

@wesleymiddleton1401 4 года назад

Damn it Matt you make me smile, you tell em'.

@trustinjesus1119 4 года назад

Dillahunty, Matt (2014-02-19). "I've been told there's a reddit discussion about my credentials. Easy. I have none. No degrees. No seminary. Doesn't matter". @matt_dillahunty. Retrieved 2019-11-07. Education doesn't matter. Never learned anything about Divinity, talks about Divinity all day long. Is Divinity the single position on a single issue?

@asherikamichaela8425 4 года назад

@@trustinjesus1119 Dude was literally almost a preacher and became an atheist in the course of that study. I'd say that qualifies him to speak on this matter, theology degree or no.

@donaldcook2484 3 года назад

Matt and Paul are really good together! They Make sense with logic and reason.

@feralharry7215 4 года назад

do people really think theyre gonna call in and prove a god exists with semantics alone?

@rockysandman5489 3 года назад

@Sam Bacon The reason is not unknown. The reason is fear. Confronting their ideology as being possibly false gets them to a state of fear. Fear of change, fear of being a community outcast, fear of being shunned in the home, of being kicked out altogether, of their entire outlook and worldview and the world as they knew it crumbling apart and the lack of intellectual skill for them to build up a new one by themselves that is secular, fear of having to study the world for what is really is rather than what they were taught and explore boundaries they were always forbidden from entering. Fear of a lack of morality or meaning or purpose to their lives once they ditch the old. There's so much fear of the outside, no wonder they stay in their little echochamber bubble and try to claim they found a nonexistent black cat in the dark room they are in.

@FourDeuce01 3 года назад

Thinking has nothing to do with what theists do.😂

@Robert44444444 3 года назад

@@rockysandman5489 this is such a wonderfully spot-on comment… bravo!

@rockysandman5489 3 года назад

@@Robert44444444 Thank you.

@tylerbarker2957 3 года назад

I'm always amazed on this show how when someone is asked about a belief not related to God they can have near perfect logically reasoning to determine the validity, but when it's about God, it's like anything goes.

@johnjacobs3253 4 года назад

When Matt said he's strong and hard it gave me a little tingle.

@jdsartre9520 3 года назад

that made me literally LOL. the fact that i heard the same words without a thought or reaction along those lines hopefully means something good for me?

@bl3788 3 года назад

Lol

@paulmcdonald312 3 года назад

Are you sure that wasn't a miracle? 😁

@rahsaanhaineybey8367 3 года назад

@@jdsartre9520 Only if you have faith! 🤣

@brucebaker810 3 года назад

...in your Dingleheimer Bits?

@dusty3913 4 года назад

People who insist on engaging in tiresome, semantic arguments are the worst people. What a waste of time, breath, brain power and my patience. It's usually a sign that someone has no argument; they fixate on narrow, book definitions or they make a big fuss about grammar and spelling on youtube commentary.

@louistournas120 4 года назад

But it is important to understand each other when we use the english language and behind definitions, there is some logic. Besides what Matt said, I would say that I am not the one who invented the word god and therefore, it is not my burden to prove that a god does not exist. The inventor of the word god needs to be prove that such a thing exists. Otherwise, we would be living in an insane world where I wold have to prove that Vulkans, Klingons, smurfs and all sorts of shit don't exist and if I fail to prove that they don't exist, the theist would believe in them.

@louistournas120 4 года назад

@pan dimensional super being bojangles "1-cannot call a god super-natural, for one, your knowledge base is agnostic with regards to knowing for sure that gods exist or not, therefore that agnostic knowledge base prevents you from knowing for sure that any gods are super-natural or natural." ==I'm not the one who calls gods natural or supernatural. I am not the one who invented the word god or the one who defines it. It is some other guy who came up with the word god and even those guys are agnostic. Just because you are agnostic about smurfs does not mean that you can't draw smurfs, write stories on paper about smurfs, produce movies about smurfs. You can be an agnostic believer. "2-in other words, is a god, if it exists, outside of ALL nature?..or just outside OUR natural world?" ==I'm not sure what the difference is.

@louistournas120 4 года назад

@pan dimensional super being bojangles I would say that everyone is an agnostic. Even theists are agnostic. That doesn’t mean that an agnostic theist can’t claim that god is supernatural. Not having evidence does not prevent a person from claiming that a god exists. “dont have enough knowledge base to say any gods are supernatural or just part of the natural multiverse.” ==First off, there is no evidence to claim that gods exist. Therefore, everyone should be an atheist until sufficient and solid evidence is presented. Once we achieve that step, then we can talk about whether gods are this and that. “a god could be all powerful here, like a game designer is all powerful to his game creation, but be natural and limited in its own domain.” ==That’s possible but is there any evidence to support this idea? The only thing that matters is evidence otherwise, this is just ink on paper or bytes on a hard drive.

@metalzonemt-2 4 года назад

It's not about semantics, it's about logic: If you say anyone who doesn't believe god exist is an atheist, you can also csay anyone who doesn't believe god does not exist is a theist.

@louistournas120 4 года назад

@@metalzonemt-2 "If you say anyone who doesn't believe god exist is an atheist, you can also csay anyone who doesn't believe god does not exist is a theist." ==In other words, a theist is a person who believes in one or more gods. An atheist is a non-believer when it comes to the proposition that god or gods exist.

@nosuchthing8 3 года назад

Can you imagine having this conversation with someone on the bus about the existence of thor? That he thinks he can trick you into believing thor is real though semantics?

@AlDunbar 3 года назад

He'd probably just use Thor's hammer as a convinced.

@markwalding8205 3 года назад

In all the years I've been watching this programme, it never ceases to amaze me the hoops, high jumps, back flips and word salads that theists have to try to use or go through to prove the obviously unprovable. Rather than straight up say its entirely faith based. Probably because that makes them sound stupid.

@DennisMerwood-xk8wp 3 года назад

Great Video

@Stalicone 4 года назад

This guy is human Sominex. I literally fell asleep listening to the words dribble out. That is not an exaggeration.

@trustinjesus1119 4 года назад

Maybe atheists should be the only ones to call in. After all, it's not the experience of the godly and the Divine, it's "The Atheist Experience." *Get down with your bad selves!*

@TheTruthKiwi 4 года назад

@@trustinjesus1119 Do you think the big bang occurred?

@cy-one 4 года назад

@@trustinjesus1119 Why would atheists need to be the only target group to call into The Atheist Experience? They usually have their own atheist experience every moment of their day to day lives. Fun fact: You do to a huge degree as well ;)

@TenTonNuke 3 года назад

You can often tell how fast a person thinks by how fast they speak (the exception being someone who carefully chooses their words like Sam Harris). And the majority of people who call in sound like they're fighting off an overdose of Ambien.

@charliedsurf1267 3 года назад

Yup. A milksop theist. Matt is not gonna reach him.

@ZAnuke 4 года назад

We need to start making pretty infographics for these theists!!! Haha, I seriously think it will help. Some sort of fuel gauge with P and Not P on either side, etc.

@jesse_cole 4 года назад

Additional points to Matt for knowing the word "polysemous" when the caller threw it out there in an attempt to sound smart.

@UsmanKhan-ov4fj 4 года назад

I had to look it up :(

@Firedrake1313 4 года назад

@@UsmanKhan-ov4fj me too...but now I've learned something new today. :) Never stop learning.

@cy-one 4 года назад

Ah, like "possible" is used in two different meanings to confuse the 'reader/listener' when posing the ontological argument :D

@murph8411 4 года назад

The pronunciation threw me a little as we say it slightly differently in the UK

@cwillis92 3 года назад

15 seconds in "I think I can answer your question in 2 words"...... 22 minutes later lmaoooo

@dynamic9016 3 года назад

I really appreciate this video.

@BroNumsi 3 года назад

This call has "building up to a gotcha" written all over it. Could he be more obvious?

@nosuchthing8 3 года назад

He thinks he is building up to a gotcha. Most likely based on something he heard from some wacky religious web site.

@nefariouspablo1088 3 года назад

Definitely almost had it.

@guidokorber2866 4 года назад

I do have the exact opposite problem, I can not understand why anyone would believe that there are any gods.

@Science_Always_Wins Год назад

Just wait for the audits Matt!

@johna1427 3 года назад

Matt really needs to stop "letting" Jenna do stuff. She's a co-host. Stop interrupting her conversation with a caller, she's communicating in a different way that might be more helpful/effective - especially when you've taken the majority of the call. Evidence your humility and confidence by not taking all the space.

@damiendavisisraelcom8603 3 года назад

I think you got tge first part of your sentance wrong.

@MRtreeguy904 4 года назад

Hahahaha 19:40 Matt "Jenna your position is garbage!" Jenna... "Ummmmmm" hahahahahahaha

@canwelook 3 года назад

It seems Jenna and Matt used different definitions of the word 'agnostic'. To Jenna it means not knowing about existence of a god. To Matt it seemed to mean knowing gods do not exist.

@eamontdmas 3 года назад

He's wrong about her position. It's only garbage if you presuppose that knowledge is a subset of belief, and a that is not necessarily an accurate definition of knowledge.

@joshuaklein8429 3 года назад

@@eamontdmas right, you could technically have an agnostic theist, though they are rare. My understanding is that the [a]gnostic position is a statement about our *ability to know* rather than specifically knowing. Like, a Gnostic theist believes in a god/gods and presumes to know that they can know those gods, an agnostic atheist lacks belief in gods but doesn’t claim that we can know they would exist anyway, and a gnostic atheist lacks belief but claims that we could know about their lacking. I used to call gnostic atheism strong atheism but now that I think on it some, maybe they aren’t the exact same thing. I guess that’s where the “anti-theist” label comes in, which could also be either agnostic or gnostic.

@skaface32 4 года назад

i like Jenna's hair

@data3214 4 года назад

Nearly as good as Matt's hair

@BradKremer 4 года назад

Love the channel. I find it very informative and entertaining. But I sometimes feel that you should rebrand it as " The Linguist Experience" 🤣

@sublimesunshine3229 3 года назад

I’m going to take the easy shot here and suggest instead: “The Cunning Linguists”.

@FourDeuce01 3 года назад

"That's a load of crap." Theism in a nutshell.

@williamtarry4405 4 года назад

Theism is: We believe there is a god. Atheism is: There is no empirical evidence supporting the existence of a god. I have asked theists to provide any empirical evidence they might have that supports the existence of a god, and not one has done so. Who knows, maybe one will actually do it eventually. I won't hold my breath. :D

@atheismisrightforever7008 4 года назад

there’s no god at all when your dead it will be like before you came it to existence eternal nothingness you won’t know because you won’t exist anymore you didn’t know before you came into existence

@williamtarry4405 4 года назад

@@atheismisrightforever7008, that's a good point. Dead people can't believe in anything as they are dead at that time. Before a person is born, they can't believe in anything as they aren't alive at that time.

@atheismisrightforever7008 4 года назад

Jimbus Rift nah there’s no proof a creator when your dead it will be like before you came into existence eternal nothingness a creator doesn’t exist

@asherikamichaela8425 4 года назад

@@atheismisrightforever7008 Which I think was Jimbus' point. 😉

@cy-one 4 года назад

@John Wood Mah holey buk has empires in it and they hang my fav dood and people wrote how they saw him hang."

@Blubb5000 4 года назад

I also happen to believe that there are no gods. In fact, I go even one step further: I am *convinced* that there are no gods, as much as I am convinced that the Tooth Fairy is not real and Santa Clause is not real.

@truerealrationalist 3 года назад

Convinced by *what* evidence?

@amritlohia8240 Месяц назад

@@truerealrationalist The argument from divine hiddenness, the argument from inconsistent revelation, and the significant evidence that many founders of religious movements may have suffered from epilepsy or other neurological disorders that led them to perceive their 'revelations', among others.

@truerealrationalist Месяц назад

@@amritlohia8240 That's solid justification for disbelief in _religion._ That's not evidence for the nonexistence of any deity anywhere. What if there's non-omnimax deity like one from any of the pantheons of deities of antiquity just hanging out on some planet outside of the observable universe? No one has or even can have evidence against that. Sure, you can then argue, "well, it has no impact on us here, so it doesn't matter," and while that may be true, whether it has any impact on us here on Earth has no bearing on whether or not it _exists._ Either it does, or it doesn't. That's why the belief in the nonexistence of any deity anywhere can't logically be grounded in empiricism or evidentialism.

@amritlohia8240 Месяц назад

@@truerealrationalist I didn't say it was evidence for the nonexistence of *all* deities, but rather for the nonexistence of "gods", a term which is conventionally used to describe theistic rather than purely deistic entities. If you're talking about purely deistic entities, I agree that one can't have evidence for their existence nor their existence, precisely because they're unfalsifiable and untestable in the same way as Russell's teapot.

@saveusmilkboy 2 года назад

"Maybe think about it a little more." Ah, Jenna. I love you so much.

@boxelder9147 4 года назад

This is just way above my head. Love the show though. I guess we're all just trying to understand life and things like that.

@halwakka504 4 года назад

2:38 When Matt mentioned toenail clippings I remembered that my toenails were getting long so I clipped some atheists while I watched the rest of the video.

@AlDunbar 3 года назад

If you removed parts of you that are atheist, are you any less atheist Asa a result?

@seth9441 3 года назад

Whoa! I'm a geologist I care a lot about rocks. Their religious affiliation, not so much

@StoccTube 3 года назад

Listening to this on headphones whilst cleaning the car... wish they’d stop saying pee... because I really need to go! 😂

@paulmcdonald312 3 года назад

'Maybe think about it for a while!' 😂😂😂

@MasterSpade 3 года назад

Every single religious person knows damn well what it is to "Lack Belief". Every religious person "Lacks Belief" for EVERY other god out there! So when they say "I think you DO believe in my god, because he is real",.............. uhhmm......no, I don't. Same as you don't believe in all those other gods. For you religious people, pay Special attention to the 2nd sentence -- "I contend we are Both Atheists, I just believe in one fewer gods than you do. When you understand why you Dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." -- Stephen F. Roberts

@Chattosaurus 4 года назад

I saw the words "Atheist Rock" and immediately thought of Rush. Man, the world is definitely a less cool place now that Neil Peart is no longer with us, but his music will always be cranked as long as people with good taste have eardrums. /unrelated tagent_off

@ari1234a 4 года назад

Nice.

@AdventuresWithWampa 4 года назад

I giggled like a teenage boy when I heard "accepting P" far too many times.

@aichujohnson8444 3 года назад

This goes into Binary Logic vs. Trinary Logic. Only a few languages of the world use the latter as a syntax, the rest use the former. This often leads to confusion and miscommunication.

@jmcg9329 4 года назад

When you have someone who starts using useless, semantic arguments, just walk away.

@charlzthehuman6550 4 года назад

Dude probably is asking for his “pet rock”

@Steve0272. 2 года назад

I literally rolled out my tent while sleeping and in to Loch ness lol , thankfully he/she must have either not been hungry or asleep lol phew!!

@icikle 3 года назад

I just recorded a discussion with an apologist YT on this topic, won't name them as its still in post production, but I hope I did the definition of Atheism justice. I am new to this so doubtless I will have made some schoolboy mistakes but I am hopeful to push on and get better with my argumentation.

@lobintool 4 года назад

What's wrong with being agnostic? It surely means "I just don't know"!

@user-on6uf6om7s 3 года назад

It's not wrong, it's just incomplete. If you don't find there to be any credible evidence for the existence of god, then you're an atheist, whether you're gnostic or agnostic depends on whether you want to go a step further and say that you then know no god exists. It is possible to find some evidence compelling without believing but at some point you tend to end up on one side or the other, either believing there probably is a god or probably is not. It's possible there are people that believe it's a 50/50 coin flip as to whether there's a god, though I don't know how many exist, but simply calling yourself agnostic doesn't say anything about what you believe. You might call this theoretical completely 50/50 person agnostic neutral but I don't think that represents the majority of people who identify as agnostic.

@jdsartre9520 3 года назад

and keep in mind that while agnostic is generally accepted to imply not knowing about god, technically it does not include the object, meaning we can be agnostic about fairies, zeus, santa claus. Which, now that I include those as examples, highlights how silly it is to be agnostic on those, and so should be silly to be agnostic on god. In that regard, there is that oft-overlooked difference between the terms agnostic and atheist. I have a dream, that one day, the term atheist will no longer be used, and instead we will refer to ourselves as the "non-deluded", the "non-suckers", the "dirty brains" (in contrast to 'brainwashed')

@brucebaker810 3 года назад

It's the right answer to the wrong question. The same thing that's wrong with "steak rare or well done?" "cow"

@dionettaeon 4 года назад

Saying "I reject the claim that a god does not exist" is a pointless double-negative. For someone trying to understand the atheist position, you're playing an awful lot of word games, Steve.

@agodfortheatheistnow 4 года назад

Dionette STOP PLAYING SEMANTIC GAMES THEN.... Either you CHOOSE to believe a god exists like me.... or you choose to believe no god exists..... having said that, I use CArl Sagan as my spokesperson “But if by God one means the set of physical laws that govern the universe, then clearly there is such a God”... I have gone to. Lot of trouble to consolidate my belief in God, based on solid scientific evidence and principles... and I am ready to right my book entitled “ A God For An Atheist” It will be a best seller.

@Cellidor 4 года назад

@@agodfortheatheistnow Might want to hire an editor for that book.

@metalzonemt-2 4 года назад

It's not double negative.

@metalzonemt-2 4 года назад

@he11b1ade If someone asks "do you believe god exists?" and they answer "no" Next question is "do you belive god does not exist" and they also answer "no". That person would be agnostic, and there's no double negative.

@rickyanthony 3 года назад

Holy shit 12:40 Matt was so eloquent with that answer.

@Ezane1904 4 года назад

11:44 Starbucks advertising lol

@ddpyketojourney3937 4 года назад

First time I’ve heard Matt make the proposition that he believes there is no god as opposed to not believing the claims there is a god. I would love to hear his evidence for it. As he’s said many times. If you say there is no god the burden off shift falls to you. Has he claimed this any where else?

@roner61 4 года назад

Is not a proposition, he doesn’t believe a god exist. It’s called strong atheism.

@Chattosaurus 4 года назад

He did kind of clarify it and say it was just his personal opinion that there were no gods - I actually remember one caller (an Atheist) who was trying to empirically prove that gods don't exist. Matt almost put on his theist hat and debunked him. I don't remember which show it was, so I'd have to dig around.

@roner61 4 года назад

@@Chattosaurus Well, yes. I saw that episode. I was just defending Matt. :-) When he discusses he tries to just use logic and reason, and keep his beliefs apart. But atheism is getting stronger inside him. :-)

@ddpyketojourney3937 4 года назад

he11b1ade No need for pity. I’m an atheist and a big fan of the show. It’s a marked difference in how I’ve always heard Matt describe his lack of belief. I’ve listened to hundreds of hours and I’ve always heard him as describing his disbelief as a disbelief of a claim. He made the point in this video to state he not only disbelieved someone’s claim about a god, but that he actively disbelieved there was reason to believe there were no gods and that he could and would be happy to defend it. It was a noted difference from what he has said over the past decade. I’m pretty sure he doesn’t need you to bash someone for noting the difference.

@ddpyketojourney3937 4 года назад

he11b1ade Maybe burden of proof isn’t quite right. What I meant was that Matt said he would be happy to defend his belief there is no gods and I would be interested in that defense as an atheist who would say I am 99% there. It’s his explanation that he chose not to offer here that I was genuinely curious to hear.

@edwebber679 4 года назад

Jenna is a real beauty.

@charliedsurf1267 3 года назад

Labels are important. Make sure your label is firmly affixed and easily seen.

@TheAntiburglar 2 года назад

I usually use the term "agnostic atheist" but this has given me some pause in its use. I'll have to think on that. Thanks y'all :D

@bjscherm86 4 года назад

I love you Jenna, I hope to find someone just like you

@gabrieljordan8015 4 года назад

You could still convince me that a god exists through science, logic, and reason if there is any. However that only gets you as far as deism and not necessary the Abrahamic God or really any known deity ever recorded in history.

@asherikamichaela8425 4 года назад

This! ☝️ And, to be honest, they'd have to work a whole lot harder to get us to believe in their specific deity. Something the "Well, what created everything if not God?" bit just can't handle.

@truerealrationalist 3 года назад

Fortunately, theism does not equate to religion. Theism literally _only_ posits the *existence* of god(s); and since Deism proposes the existence of a god, (who is non intervening) Deism is a subset of theism.

@asherikamichaela8425 3 года назад

@@truerealrationalist Yes...? What's your point?

@truerealrationalist 3 года назад

@@asherikamichaela8425 The point is that atheists tend to falsely equate theism with religion, as is evidenced by the comments on any of these videos. As an irreligious theist, I was confirming that we are on the same page.

@asherikamichaela8425 3 года назад

@@truerealrationalist Most theists are religious in some fashion, but most of us atheists do recognize that deism is a thing. In fact, most of us who are agnostic atheists acknowledge that, if there is some kind of creative force out there, it's likely of a deistic variety.

@jvondd 2 года назад

When I read "atheist rock explained," I was hoping the conversation was going to be about music.

@savagecarwash5262 4 года назад

I'm a minute in and I can hardly bare listening to this guy drag on without getting to the point! I get that words aren't everyone's strong suit but my gosh please don't add more than you need to, I don't know how you do it Matt.

@trustinjesus1119 4 года назад

Richard Dawkins is the most famous self-delegated "militant atheist" on planet earth, and he's authored 30 books. He's fare more wordy than the 30 second sound bites Dillahunty allows _his_ adversaries.

@asherikamichaela8425 4 года назад

@@trustinjesus1119 Wow. That's spectacularly untrue. I've heard some of these callers ramble and rant for several minutes without letting Matt or the other hosts get a word in edgewise. Gish Gallop, anyone? Please stop acting like ya'll are so persecuted and ostracized. You're really not.

@aaronlietz 4 года назад

The caller was just playing dumb while trying to do a 'gotcha'. "You guys have the burden of proof too! Neener! Neener!" It was as if he was trying to pretend that there is no "not guilty" category. "You have to say the butler is guilty or he's innocent!" Nope, no we don't. That's the point.

@metalzonemt-2 4 года назад

Burden of proof means burden of justification, aka you have to justify your claim, not proove it, unless you're making a 100% knowledge claim. Not guilty gathegory would be agnosticism.

@chojin6136 4 года назад

All this back and forth about 'p', over and over, I'm starting to think he's taking the 'p'

@TmRnBn 4 года назад

Well, I'm taking a p.

@Emcostanza 4 года назад

a wet ass p

@FourDeuce01 3 года назад

Steve reminds me of Donkey in Shrek. "Onions have layers, too."😜

@richardvastine7486 3 года назад

That whoosh sound you hear is air rushing into the head of a theist filling the void where once there was a brain.

@johnpelosi4117 4 года назад

Such tedious definition parsing.

@KenMerrell 4 года назад

I think Matt confused the issue with his anti-theism.

@AvNotasian 4 года назад

He assumed the caller understood enough for him to add nuance. I'm not sure if the caller understood the difference and was trying to twist words, or did not understand at all.

@kdemetter 4 года назад

I'm also confused by it, because I always thought anti-theism was being 'against theism' , as in not just lacking a belief in god (atheism) , but believing that such a belief is harmful (regardless of whether it is true or not ).

@AvNotasian 4 года назад

@@kdemetter He was elucidating that there are multiple reasons to reject a theistic claim. The 2 discussed here were failure to believe the claim, and belief in the negation of the claim. Where atheism is the former and anti-theism is the latter. You can use the words how you like, matt was defining them this way and towards the end he even mentioned agnostic anti-theism just to make this even more confusing. - I think he may have been doing this too long and needs to be in the co-host chair more often. This would make the show more accessible for new viewers.

@rickyanthony 3 года назад

I was thoroughly confused at the Pee and not pee part

@mistynights3794 3 года назад

I guess asking someone what they mean when they're an atheist is safer than to assume the colloquial definition of "Someone who doesn't believe in a god or gods"

@StrikeTheRoot 4 года назад

Jesus Matt, Let Jenna talk. You've become so jaded and angry in your years of debate that you don't realize that you might have a better chance of waking up the sleeping masses by taking a more soft approach as the one Jenna takes. You'd rather win the argument than allow the caller to lose the argument. Take a cue from Jenna; she gives the callers time and opportunity to work out the arguments on their own without berating them. in other words. Take a chill pill dude. Jenna; great work as always. Your approach will reach far more questioning minds in the long run.

@puckerings 4 года назад

Matt's too mean, blah blah blah. Fucking hot take.

@trustinjesus1119 4 года назад

Matt always wins though. When you're a party in a dispute, and also the judge, jury & executioner, you always win.

@drg8687 4 года назад

Matt was far angrier in the past. You have not been watching the show for long. Go back to the Jeff Dee and Matt days. Oh those were some good times.

@ari1234a 4 года назад

@@trustinjesus1119 "When you're a party in a dispute, and also the judge, jury & executioner, you always win" Weeeell, it is his show or to put it other way his court. You do not have to watch these court hearings and rulings if You dont like them. You can always watch some kitty videos on RU-vid instead.

@ari1234a 4 года назад

@John Wood Yea, makes sense.

@FourDeuce01 3 года назад

Matt said we know the FSM was an invented fiction. That’s true, but we don’t know whether the FSM actually inspired somebody with his true Gospel.😉

@patrickgrannus7886 3 года назад

rAmen.

@brucebaker810 Месяц назад

Convincing the world hes a fictional carbohydrate attests to his pastafarian genius. (The devil's best trick...)

@vladtepes7539 3 года назад

with determinism given, schopenhauer says that if you could ask a thrown rock, he would tell you that being thrown is what he desires to be. schopi also added, that the stone would be correct. i get it, but ill leave that one in the open like that-.

@HeathWatts 3 года назад

When I was in the 4th grade, most of my classmates had stopped believing in the person who brings presents in December. I could not accept that they did not believe in that person. Theists are similar. They so strongly believe in their god that they cannot accept that there are people who do not accept that their god exists.

@dmc3079 4 года назад

Damn, Jenna is very pretty... Love the hair

@billdavis9286 3 года назад

These types of callers suck. The guy spends all your time circling around word salad definitions, to a point he can't make or comprehend...

@nefariouspablo1088 3 года назад

Not at all. He’s making an effort to understand and point out the complexity of epistemological claims.

@purpleice7277 3 года назад

Rocks, trees, toenail clippings. 😂😂😂

@brucebaker810 Месяц назад

Weird version of Rock Paper Scissors.

@RB-zh1eq 4 года назад

I don't understand definitions. gotcha

@nathanielthomson3455 4 года назад

A theist is trying to shift the burden of proof, this is a game as old as time.

@trustinjesus1119 4 года назад

I don't accept I have the burden of proof. I'm therefore not trying to shift it. If you can't produce good arguments for the side you're on then I'll never be convinced by it. Dfpolis: Here we come to a fundamental difference in our world views. His world view is one which is disintegrating. He wants to set the natural world apart from the divine world, I want to integrate them. Open Philosophy is about having an integral worldview which is open to all of the data of human experience both scientific data and our spiritual insights. So my job is not to confirm his world view that there is a separation but to show that he is wrong and that what he calls naturalism is perfectly consistent with theism. And further what he calls the supernatural is part of the lived world. So, what I am trying to do here is quite different from what he expects me to do. He expects me to confirm his prejudice that there are lines of separation separating our human experience into incompatible compartments whereas what I'm in fact trying to do is to show the compatibility of the natural and supernatural orders. *Dfpolis R-9 Have Reason, Will Travel* R-9 A response to TheAtheistPaladin's (AP) "dfpolis does not pass the Epistemology challenge for the supernatural."

@nathanielthomson3455 4 года назад

@@trustinjesus1119 I don't care wether you accept it or not. It doesn't change the situation as dictated by the laws of logic. Positive claims require proof, if you believe P=true you have a burden of proof, if you believe !P=true you also have a burden of proof because you are making positive claims about the world you live in and the nature of said world. The only claim on this situation that doesn't require a burden of proof is the one that makes no assertion as to whether P or !P is true. I.e. both claims =false. Did you follow me on that one?

@trustinjesus1119 4 года назад

@Bad oMaN Your criteria for something being real is if it acts in reality, and your stance is that nothing supernatural acts. I don't see how I have the burden (?). Every moment I experience the supernatural, the immaterial, transpersonal & transcendent personal experiences. I've been beyond death and back *_three times!_* For some reason that sparked a memory for me from a now racist Polish Joke Book. A rapist came upon a couple at the beach at night and drew a circle in the sand and said don't move from the circle while he proceeded to rape his woman. When it was all over the woman said, "Why didn't you do anything," and the man said, "I did, I stepped out of the circle three times."

@metalzonemt-2 4 года назад

@@nathanielthomson3455 They only require proof if they are absolute knowlege claims, in other cases burden of proof means burden of justification. And everyone has to justify their position.

@deanmoncaster 4 года назад

No one is born believing or knowing in a God. Ergo no God is the default position.

@truerealrationalist 3 года назад

No one is born believing or knowing that no god exists, either. Yet, that doesn't stop hard/positive/strong atheists from holding that position. The rationale must be applied both ways, or one is being logically inconsistent...like Matt.

@deanmoncaster 3 года назад

@@truerealrationalist actually they do. That's the default position. Smh.

@truerealrationalist 3 года назад

@@deanmoncaster *Do* they? Matt doesn't. Aron Ra doesn't. Dawkins doesn't. Harris doesn't. Dennett doesn't. Hitchens didn't. No person who "lacks belief" in the existence Bigfoot, chupacabra, elves, faries, ghosts, gnomes, leprechauns, the Loch Ness Monster, Mothman, pixies, trolls, unicorns, vampires, werewolves, yetis, etc *actually* "lacks belief" in the NONexistence of those things. Why would god(s) be any different? Because of a special pleading?

@deanmoncaster 3 года назад

@@truerealrationalist no because you aren't born giving them a second thought. You aren't born believing in them you have to learn about them from others

@truerealrationalist 3 года назад

@@deanmoncaster That in no way answers the question. If a person lacks belief that the Tooth Fairy (for example) _does_ exist, he _does_ believe that the Tooth Fairy _doesn't_ exist. One _learns_ this. One _learns_ about god(s). So, why would lacking belief in the existence of god(s) not also imply belief in the NONexistence of god(s)? Or, better yet...since "atheism is a lack of belief in god(s), but not a positive belief in the NONexistence of god(s)" is a claim, what evidence is there to support this claim?

@parsamohammadi1488 3 года назад

So I'm a little confused, I've been calling myself an "Atheist" amongst my friends but an "Agnostic Atheist" among strangers to be more specific, and what I mean by "Agnostic Atheist" is that I don't believe in any god yet because I'm not convinced but don't know if there is any God. I thought the Atheism part is about belief and the Agnosticism part is about knowledge!? So am I making a mistake when I call myself an Agnostic Atheist using that definition?

@nuoiptertermer4484 4 года назад

Agnostic atheist is not a garbage label. I don't know what Matt was talking about there. It means you don't believe there's a god and don't feel sure there isn't a god. Also, lack of good evidence for something is enough to conclude it's probably not real. Because something being not real is the rational default until there's good evidence for it.

@elmolewis9123 4 года назад

This guy sounds like he's working on his first homework assignment in logic but just wrote down the buzzwords without learning their usage.

@krenwregget7667 3 года назад

All the best rock is atheist rock. Have you heard christian rock? It's terrible!

@69eddieD 3 года назад

They call a lot of music "rock." "Christian rock" isn't rock at all. It's soooo bland. It's awful!

@epeck1115 3 года назад

Matt essentially called Jenna an idiot a couple times in this video.

@aichujohnson8444 3 года назад

"I do not like A" can mean that "I hate A" / "I dislike A" OR it can mean that "I am indifferent to A". (= "I neither like nor dislike A") Colloquial language often assumes that everything is binary. Hence, often it is hard to show the middle position, because a negative statement is almost never interpreted as a neutral statement. And yet, negation of the positive can mean either "neutral" OR "negative".

@theshapeexists 4 года назад

Jenna is hot.

@mr.d.8121 4 года назад

Atheism is an odd, evrn silly word. There is no term for a non bird spotter, a non stamp collector, etc. Theism is a life style choice.

@rickb.4168 4 года назад

Mr. D. Er, I think your wrong you can be a aphilatelist the meaning would be without a love of stamps. Or you could be an Aornithophile. Not having a love of birds. However stamps exist and so do birds, I don’t need faith or a belief system to understand what they are. And I would have to go a very very long way to say I don’t believe in the evidence you have for them.

@moonboogien8908 4 года назад

So is bird spotting.... And in my lifestyle, I choose not to spot birds. Ergo, non bird spotting is part of my lifestyle.

@Timbo6669 4 года назад

It's just a word. Like all the others.

@extremeslashr 4 года назад

Talk to me when bird spotters start dictating to everyone how they should live their life and try to enact policy based on unfalsifiable claims.

@cy-one 4 года назад

@he11b1ade Yeah it kinda is.

@pigdog1971 Год назад

dont tell me what i think don't tell me what' you think is written on my heart.

@eamontdmas 3 года назад

How many times does the difference between hard and soft atheism need to be explained?

@adisharr 3 года назад

My toenail clippings are not convinced

@brucebaker810 Месяц назад

Calcium no see um.

@worldpeace1822 3 года назад

I find the distinction between knowledge and being convinced of something a rather slippery slope. Because if I say I’m convinced of something than I do so from a position of a priori knowledge/experience either way. I’d rather would make a distinction by the level of confidence in a claim.