What is the Best Cam for M8 114 or 107

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Our friend Mike Roen is getting prepared to take us, step by step, through the process of a S&S performance cam upgrade on this M8 Softail. Whether your bike has a 107, 114, or 117 cui motor, this procedure pertains to all M8 Harley Davidson motors-Touring and Softail.
Why try and find the best cam for M8 114, 107, 117? The main purpose for a cam upgrade is to gain more horsepower and torque but there are a number of other advantages. The hard facing on S&S 475 cam gear lobes and lifter roller surfaces is far superior to Harley Davidson’s. The S&S lifter guide is a cast aluminum piece, as opposed to Harley Davidson’s stock, plastic guide. Also, the S&S inner cam bearing is a full roller bearing which is far more durable than the factory caged bearing.
The stock, solid pushrods will be cut out with bolt cutters in order to avoid the need removing the fuel tank and dismantling the rocker box assemblies. The stock pushrods will be replaced with the S&S Quickee adjustable pushrods. A high volume S&S oil pump is also available, but in this video we will be using the latest oil pump from Harley Davidson.
Service manual instructions give a number of measurements needed to set the correct depth of the cam bearing. We will be using a cam bearing installation tool from Jim’s Tools that sets the correct bearing depth without the need for measurements. Mike will also be using a specialty tool for locking the crank and cam gears together for loosening and tightening retaining hardware.
Follow along with Mike as he takes us through the procedures for a cam upgrade on the Milwaukee Eight. You decide if it’s the best cam for M8 114, 107 or 117. Watch Full Install here: www.fixmyhog.com/videos/m8-ca...
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@preachermanbe 8 месяцев назад

I have a 2018 road glide with a 107 and I put the 472 call Cam and I love it

@morrisdennis 2 года назад

S&S 475 is what i have its unbelievable it makes riding fun!

@MrDoyle07 23 дня назад

I have a Woods 222 in my 107 and it made a beast emerge from that power plant. It’s awesome (read AWESOME) and I love it!

@ALPHAFTUCK 7 дней назад

Woods 22xe FTW

@jeremiahallen2393 Год назад

Great info

@windtherapy99 2 года назад

Mike put my Woods 22XE cam in last year! Loving the power band of it!

@brockvermillion8960 2 года назад

You still enjoying the 22xe? Ya keep a duel exhaust? How much gane in tourqe and hp?

@windtherapy99 2 года назад

@@brockvermillion8960 yes, still liking it! I kept dual exhaust… My M8 107ci made 115TQ and 109HP if I remember correctly. Running the jackpot 2-1-2 and khromewerks mufflers with ripper baffles.

@darrenforgette5559 2 года назад

My 114 with woods 22x,intake upgrade,injectors upgrade,oil pump upgrade, tts tune,v&h slip on made 111 hp and 127ft# torture

@Mcorre 2 года назад

Mr RG20, who m doing the 22xe, wondering reliability on the long runs (interstates rides) and durability. W your experience?? Thanks much Mike Florida

@jeffplante2254 Год назад

I'm curious, I have a 2020 Road Glide M8 107 I have the Vance & Hines power dual headers (2-1-2)with the Vance &Hines torque 450 exhaust (slipons) and the Arlen Ness monster sucker air filter and Dyno tuned. What would be the better cam kit for my bike? S&s 475 or woods performance 22xe?

@FixMyHogfreechannel Год назад

Great question! We have a lot of technical answers on our website. www.fixmyhog.com/harley-tips-a-z-index and ‘Ask an Expert’ section for members of our online community. I would be happy to send your question off to the experts. To get started, please send the email associated with your paid membership. Thanks!

@CarlosGarcia-ls4hn 2 года назад

I have a high compression (113 c.i.) , 2000 Springer with a carb. I want to change the Harley 266 cams to the stock cams. Are there any after market cams that are very similar to stock cams?

@FixMyHogfreechannel 2 года назад

If you prefer to run stock cams, we would suggest purchasing stock Harley Davidson cams from the dealership. Best to run them with a hydraulic cam plate. Otherwise, we would go with S&S 510 cams for mild, bolt in, cams. www.fixmyhog.com/videos/cam-chain-tensioner-shoe/

@Heavy69Metal 3 года назад

What about comp 246a vs comp 248c?

@wolfemanbog4176 3 года назад

Will this cam create more heat in my m8 or will it run cooler after right tune and breaking in period

@brockvermillion8960 2 года назад

Depends if your still running stock head pipe.

@drainmonkeys385 Год назад

475 all day

@TheRicokilla 3 года назад

Question. Opting to replace a camshaft (primarily to improve the sound, torque etc) Will that be a problem for the engine 10 years down the road? Is the engine designed for these types of after market parts(s&s cams etc) and that it won’t lead to other problems? Pls do advise. Tq

@FixMyHogfreechannel 3 года назад

Great question! The ‘Ask an Expert’ section is currently for members of our online community. I would be happy to send your question off to the experts. To get started, please send the email associated with your paid membership account. Thanks!

@ownTer 2 года назад

@@FixMyHogfreechannel What a bunk reply.

@russmode Год назад

Good question, but I don't really care about 10 years...down the road, that's alot of years of good riding, q stock motor could blow before then, and if we aren't ready to put the latest great motor (ie: 131, or whatever it might be) in our bikes, 10 years from now...we are scared little whimps..and I ain't it.

@joer5057 Год назад

Most of the wear items are replaced if you do this job in its entirety. OEM things like the plastic lifter cuffs, the cam bearing (as pointed out in this video), and the pre 2020 oil pumps are all regarded as parts prone to failure. Any one of those goes bad, there's a good chance that your entire engine could be smoked. If you're concerned with things like bottom end issues, the only thing that may sacrifice longevity is if you're now inclined to constantly beat the snot out of your bike, lol. Frankly, you're better off doing these mods to improve the long-term survivability of your bike vs leaving the stock junk in there. The above-mentioned parts are basically ticking time bombs.

@freebehindbars8654 8 месяцев назад

My bike runs better, cooler and produces power easier… I’d say it actually improves longevity. That’s definitely depends on the lift, since most use stock springs. I’ll never own a stock HD again.

@johnwhitmore7212 22 дня назад

I will use a tts 150 or a cycle rama 480 Mt in my 2023 streetbob114

@morrisdennis 2 года назад

S&S 475 is king 4 a reason.

@jerrym2321 3 года назад

Thanks Mike, good information......I noticed that the specs on the 475 have different timing for the front and rear cylinders (for example, the front cylinder intake valve opens and closes at 6.2 degrees and 27.2 degrees respectively, but the rear cylinder intake opens at 2.2 and closes at 31.2). I'm pretty sure contributes to its very aggressive lope, but this is the only cam that I have found that does this......can you comment on why S&S chose to do this? I have a suspicion that the hotter temps of the rear cylinder may be part of the reason, but that would beg the question, why doesn't everyone else do this too? I can't seem to find any good explanation for it or why such a design is better than cams that keep valve timing the same for both cylinders. I'm still tossed up between the S&S 475 and the new Woods Performance 22XE.

@FixMyHogfreechannel 3 года назад

S&S has a great resource page: www.sscycle.com/tech-info/cam-specs-overview

@jerrym2321 3 года назад

@@FixMyHogfreechannel Yes, I've read every word. Unfortunately, that page appears to be quite out of date....Nothing on the 475C (the page presumes that the 475G is only available), and not a word about the 465C or 550C cams. Also nothing explaining why the timing is different for the front and rear cylinders. Nothing on the page leads me to believe that it has been updated since the M8 came out.

@FixMyHogfreechannel 3 года назад

@@jerrym2321 Give them a ring, great peeps and great customer care.

@jerrym2321 3 года назад

@@FixMyHogfreechannel No complaints with S&S....they have gotten a lot of my money over the last 50 years! But this time I went with the Woods Performance 22XE. Still using the S&S cam plate, oil pump, and tensioner though. But I'm still curious about the timing of the S&S cams and the reason for front and rear cylinder difference. Maybe someone out there can shine a little light on the subject.

@williammason8566 3 года назад

@@jerrym2321 I’m undecided between the S&S 475c and the woods 22xe. How do you like the woods and what pipes do you have with the woods?

@RyanTaylor1223 3 года назад

Is this a good cam to pair with my TBR short turnout exhaust or should I get rid of that pipe and get a V&H pro pipe?

@FixMyHogfreechannel 3 года назад

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@isaiahfry6005 2 года назад

@@BeardedBavarianBiker. what about a Vance and Hines 2-1

@derfskittlers6125 Год назад

You're probably not getting the needed back pressure using those short pipes. Bet it sound good and loud though.

@88cavecreek Год назад

what cam can i use on my new 117 street glide and stay within my 6 year warrenty

@FixMyHogfreechannel Год назад

Stop by our site: www.fixmyhog.com/videos/m8-cam-upgrade/

@W9HJBill Год назад

What's the best cam for an M8? Pretty much ANYTHING other than what comes with the bike from the factory. 😂😂 I went with a Jim's USA Max-Cell 818 on my 114 Tri-Glide. Only 102.92 HP @ 5030 RPM but she has 130.28 LB0FT @ 3570 RPM. She pulls like a beast now.

@FixMyHogfreechannel Год назад

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@derfskittlers6125 Год назад

Lol doesn't sound like he read your comment

@rocketrandy3744 Год назад

WILL SCREAMING EAGLE PROSTREET TUNER WORK WITH ZIPPERS 472 CAM ON 114 BREAKOUTS ?

@cameronfoleyfoley444 3 года назад

I have a 2018 RGS with the 107 and I recently had the 465G installed. Could I use this cam if I look to put 114 jugs on my bike at some point and if so, would this be a good cam for that build?

@FixMyHogfreechannel 3 года назад

@FatbobRell 3 года назад

Depends on what type of riding you do. The 465 is a great low end torque cam but it drops off where as fhe 475 comes on alittle later in the rev range but has a flatter torque curve.

@motorcyclesandearthworks3196 Год назад

What is the stock lift?

@FixMyHogfreechannel Год назад

more info: www.fixmyhog.com/video/understanding-cam-specs-part-1-019182/

@NickCager Год назад

S&S should start making motorcycles.

@gnd111 2 года назад

222XE is the answer to everything from 107 to 117

@dry509 7 месяцев назад

What year and model bike is that behind you?

@glenngorman5957 Месяц назад

Not sure of the year, but he mentioned that it was a 114.

@gearedupproduction8290 2 года назад

If somebody wanted to make more than 111 hp what kit would they go to. 114 for reference

@FixMyHogfreechannel 2 года назад

Mike gets into upgrades in this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5rX5F2tKn3k.html

@preachermanbe 8 месяцев назад

I did the 472 cop cam and I got 112 hp in 120 foot pounds of torque out of my 1 07

@morrisdennis Год назад

Get the s&s 475 cam kit, with upgraded oil pump. Pricey but worth it.

@paul-ex1oe 2 месяца назад

yep doing it too a 107 2023 softail standard right now Cam Chest Kit

@javiertorres7460 3 года назад

What about the Cam Chain Tensioner

@FixMyHogfreechannel 3 года назад

Issue on the older Twin Cams check out projects on our site www.fixmyhog.com/videos/cam-chain-tensioner-shoe/

@allan9584able 6 месяцев назад

get the S&S tensioner and buy the better qaulity sprocket , the standard is lose on the shaft

@RGHD912 3 года назад

S&S 475

@lou1348 3 года назад

Yes! Have it on my FXDRS and love it.

@adamlaney2910 2 года назад

Star Racing 30-30 Cam, Best drop in Cam for m8

@johndoe9134 2 года назад

Is it a good freeway cam? I don’t plan to really race my bike.

@TheImtoomuch 2 года назад

LOL don’t believe anyone that says “best”.

@allan9584able 6 месяцев назад

clear that you run one , i have one never put it in still laying in the dust , still running 475 after research

@realWorsin 2 месяца назад

S&S 465C all the way.

@brucevernon5827 Год назад

With the defects on the M8 why do they have a stage 2 when the S&S parts should be the stock parts ,if the owner wants to add stage 1 well that is the owners choice,when you're spending 55k in Australia for a CVO why don't Harley do it correctly in the first place

@allan9584able 6 месяцев назад

its called emissions

@brucevernon5827 6 месяцев назад

They don't break emotions laws. Using a better product