What is the Best Pour Over For Beginners? V60 vs Origami vs Kalita Wave 

Which dripper would you choose if you had to start over? What would you recommend to a friend?

That is why I like the Kalita. The taste qualities you describe there are more for me. Plus it doesn't break when you are clumsy!

I tend to recommend the v60 for a first brewer, but that’s largely to overcome cost concerns. As much as I love to experiment with all kinds of tools and techniques, it’s hard to deny that someone getting started could do worse than paying $8 or less for their first piece of hardware, especially since it can still be very useful as they grow into the hobby.

I went through this dilemma years ago as I was being introduced to specialty coffee, I was just starting uni and buying multiple brewing methods to power what would become an emphatic addiction was (and still is) a far fetched dream but I would like to add to this great video that a great approach to making this decision is to try them all at a local specialty coffee shop over a given (preferably prolonged) period of time not only will you become more familiar with the different profiles each can bring but also over different beans so only you understand what is that you like and crave, for me I chose the Chemex as my first brewer, I loved (and still do) how clean, crisp and vibrant it made some exotic [mostly] natural beans taste while also looking absolutely stunning.

That’s one of the coolest coffee montages I’ve seen 👍

I just got my origami yesterday and I couldn't be more happy - the fact that I was able to brew a gold cup on the first try, with a new gesha from Black and White, with the Wave/Stagg filter in the Origami, has me over the moon. I've been struggling for months with my v60. I have brought my temps down to 200F from 205F, and I let my water drain almost fully on each pour, no more bitter coffees. I can't wait to use my Origami tomorrow. And I own 3 cup Chemex, Aeropress, Ceramic V60, stagg as well.

dude that coffee montage was sicckkkkk

That "coffee montage" was insane ! The style made me think of Peter McKinnon 👌

Following since day one man, so happy I found you. You’re going to make such a difference. Keep being you, you’re going to be huge!

I use the ceramic, purple, V60. It really made life easier. It's taken me about 75-100 pourovers to get close to a coffee shop quality pourover.

This is our second K-Classic. We had our first one for many years, so when we had to replace it, we wanted nothing else but this exact ru-vid.comUgkxBrV-RbF5Nk0Rlt9i15aao-YMzqzTG8Vf model. We use it for about three people everyday in the morning. The taste and quick brew is one of the reasons we like it so much. There are so many choices of brands of coffee that we would grab what was on sale and test the different brands from there. I would definitely recommend trying different brands of coffee to find the ones you like the most because there are brands that quite frankly taste horrible.

Based on your information, I'm going to try the Kalita first, because I'm looking for a sweeter low acidity chocolate profile to my brew, and I'm considering buying Brazilian high quality, single sourced, medium roasted beans for that flavor characteristic.

I just managed to find an origami in stock at a local roaster this week super excited! Talk about perfect timing!

Thank you - this is perfect timing for me. Just bought my first grinder (Sage Dose control). At the minute I’m using a metal cone dripper as I wanted to save on waste but now I’m thinking i should buy one of these drippers and some papers. 😊

I have all these drippers and I use the origami the most. You can create different recipes with different paper filters and brewing methods and it is very flexible. Honestly, I have 8 origami in different colors.

I have both a V60 and origami. Use the V60 for travelling as its plastic, but my origami is porcelain and more fragile. I'm no expert but I personally find using the kalita wave filter with the origami works great 😀

I don't own any dripper (unless a Chemex is) so your video will help me a lot choosing the right one. Thanks Kyle, always a nice video !

Excellent vid, thank you. Going to buy my first pour over soon, and this was so helpful. Also, kudos for not having any stupid background music, while presenting. Lot of work went into this, I think. Good luck.

I main v60, but now you got me wanting to try the origami

Great video. I've been eyeing the Origami. Surprisingly sold out all over. Been focusing on roasting equipment rather than brew equipment but looking forward to getting one.

So good Kyle :). I really like the Origami w the Kalita filters. Lately my goto though is the Hario Switch, if you haven't tried it I definitely recommend it. I was surprised to hear you say how much you like the Stagg (which I also have). There is so little on YT about how to optimize that dripper, it would be great if you can do a video specifically on it :). Thx for the great content, and dude that montage was so great it made me get up to make another cup.

I would use the Hario switch as you can use it both as an immersion and a V60 style brewer.

Have the V60 and loving the clarity and sweetness but will be buying a second dripped for the office when we are allowed back. Will definitely check out the origami. Also have the Bianca like yourself so keep the video’s coming!!

Thanks. i just ordered the origami so I will be back again for the report 😁😁

Based on your description of the results, it'd be the Kalita Wave for me, but I do like the versatility of them Origami. That's the great thing about coffee as a hobby though: you can get them all for pretty cheap and nerd out.

Recently i discovered some interesting drippers, the Lili Dripper, and Cafec drippers, there are 2 cafec drippers very interesting to use

I'm using the V60 since 3 years now, bought it because it was the cheapest back then (22 €). I'm ready for something new. Orea brewer seems promising. Have pre-ordered it end of February.

Fantastic as always!

You left out my favorite dripper. It's not trendy, it's old, and it makes great coffee. I'm talking about the grandmother of all pour over drippers, the humble Melitta cone. Especially for someone just getting started in pour over coffee, the Melitta is perfect. You can buy it, and the filters, almost everywhere. It's cheap (the cone alone is under $5.00 USD). Don't ignore the economy ... the less you spend on a dripper, the more you can spend on your grinder and beans - a $5 dripper and a Baratza Encore will make far better coffee than an Origami and a blade grinder. Does the Melitta make The World's Best Coffee? Probably not, but that's not what the newbie is looking for. They want something much better than the swill they're currently drinking, but aren't ready to go down the rabbit hole of superb coffee, not just yet. The jump between K-cups and a Melitta is huge. Sometimes we forget that most people aren't as into coffee as we are. They want *good*, but don't want the effort of "the best". If I was recommending a setup to a friend, I'd tell them to get the Melitta, a refurbished Encore, and the best beans they can afford. BTW, I'm a user experience developer. My job is figuring out what the typical person wants, and how to provide that: no less, no more. My suggestion is based on the average K-cup and Starbucks drinker making their first move up - not the person who already loves excellent coffee. For someone like Kyle, or most of his subscribers, I'd recommend something entirely different.

Just subscribed l love your video. So for about 2 years, I was using Keurig. Then I switch to the Hario switch I absolutely love it it's so simple, but I do have a french press which I rarely don't use at all.

I got both the V60 and the Origami. Love using both and...don't really have a preference (though the Origami looks awesome to use!) I would say if it depends on budget, the plastic V60 is probably the cheapest and best option. If there's budget play, then Origami. I can't vouch for or against Kalita as I've never used it!

Do you feel as much a difference between brewers? Can it not be accounted for by just grinding coarser or finer? Filter paper thickness will surely matter, but flow rate restriction..idk

Thoughts on using the Chemex filters in the Origami dripper, particularly to replicate Chemex-native cups? I'm thinking of getting a pourover dripper in the near future but I don't want to spend more money a separate Chemex if I already come to own an Origami.

like the positive energy in the video, I am drinking aeropress while watching this:) I got V60 and Kalita and prefer V60. need to try Origami

Hario Woodneck is my daily driver. can't recommend it enough; it's severely overlooked and underrated

Hey Kyle great video as always thanks! What carafes are you using? Specifically the 2nd and third carafes? I love the size of the one you're using with the v60!

Question regarding grinders: I’m currently using my Breville Barista Express and while it’s been good as my first espresso machine, I’m looking to upgrade (well actually having a house built and using that as an excuse to buy everything new....lol). I’m going to go with the Lelit Mara X PL62X Heat Exchange Espresso Machine and will need a grinder. Now I don’t typically do matchy-matchy but for some reason I want to keep the brand consistent in this case so I’m thinking about getting the Lelit PLO44MM Fred Stepless Doserless Grinder. I think it’s beautiful to look at and would match perfectly with the simplicity and design of the Mara X. Now with ALLLLLLLLL that being said....lol....do you think that’s a good entry level grinder that would enable the Mara X to pull great shots of espresso? Love your channel and content Bro....keep up the great work! 👍🏼 -Chris

I like the Timemore Crystal Eye dripper.

I love my Melita pour over. Great beginner pour over

Thanks for the great review. I wonder if you have ever compared Melitta pour-over dripper (which is much more widely available in North America) with some of the popular Japanese designed drippers? I currently use a Melitta Signature Series dripper. Thanks.

Just a health point: recent studies have come out saying that coffee made with a paper filter is better for your cholesterol profile. The paper filters remove some elements that are harmful to your cholesterol numbers, adding to the LDL portion. We want the HDL numbers to be higher, the LDL to be lower. Happy coffee drinking!

Great video Kyle! My favourite dripper is probably the April brewer. Definitely would also recommend V60 filters on the Origami. I find Kalita filters don't really work on the origami as they block the airflow on it leading to all sorts of problems.

That pop at 5:18 is 🔥

I’d buy kalitha because I like more sweetie taste and heavy body coffee thanks for your incredible video I already hit the bottom

you have to do this test over with the Lilly Drip !!

I'm looking to get my first brewing device for pour over and this video is perfect for that. Am I wrong in assuming that the Hario switch would be the best purchase since it's basically a V60 ( so it would be redundant to get both the V60 and the switch ) with the extra possibility to use as an immersion brewer ??

I have not used the Origami. I learned to do pourovers on the V60 before the Wave came out and use a 15:1 ratio to make a 12 oz cup. The V60 is very grind dependent and you need to adjust the grind for different types of beans.and am wondering if the Origami is the same due to the large hole. I noticed that it appears that both the Origami and the V60 are ceramic and you chose the SS 185 Wave. SS vs Ceramic will definitely result in a taste difference one not better than the other just different. Another thing is that the best Wave to use for a single cup is the 155 although it takes more technique. I recently purchased a Phin Filter which I'm sure you know is how the Vietnamese brew coffee. I do not use anything other than coffee and water in it and prefer my coffee black. For my palate this is the best although it's definitely more of a hassle. There's no paper to taint (for lack of a better word) the taste. I don't know if they make ceramic Phin filters but I'm sure someone probably does. Might have to get an Origami for my pourover dripper collection. I think I have at least 7 different ones.

Kyle you've got to try out the aeropress 'no press' pour over method for your pour over comparison! Would love to see what you think 😛 The real Sprometheus made a quick video on it and I've tried it once, but don't have much to compare it to

Nice! Great coffee montage. Can i ask what brew ratio did you have? Thank you for your response! 😊

I have been almost all V60 since I started 3 years ago. Wanted to focus on one brewer and always loved V60 results from cafes that used it. Last year I purchased the 155 Kalita in Ceramic. I prefer the V60 but do still use the Kalita on occasion. I just ordered a Chemex, as it was always my absolute favorite at cafes during brew method classes. Look forward to learning and dialing in on the Chemex. Lastly, I just purchased a Comandante C40 MK4 hand grinder. I was previously using a Breville Smart Grinder Pro conical burr grinder. In just 1 week I realize that I am getting a far superior extraction with the Comandante. So, to those out there getting started, I would stress that grinder selection may be the most important variable to lock down. Happy brewing!

I think I'm going with the porcelain kalita wave after much deliberation. I just really like the look and these are all cheap enough I can always try more later.

Plastic V60 plus a Drip Assist. No need for a gooseneck kettle so similar results can be had on the cheap. The Bonmac ceramic dripper and the brand's #2 bamboo filters is a good choice too, especially for beginners. Either device with an inexpensive kettle for

Great video!! I would also buy the Origami!

Clever Dripper! You can't fk it up, man. Immersion + Filter combo in one dripper is just simple and easy, with replicable results and very forgiving. You can also place it on a decanter or easily detach the bottom part to use it as a standard dripper.

As a novice to good quality coffee drinking and used to drinking coffee like Sumatra, Colombian or Brazilian from basic store brands Peets, Seattle's Best, etc via basic drip machine; which would you recommend as a first pour over to use and gain better appreciation for coffee?

If you have money, I would suggest getting a hario switch. You got the best of two worlds at the same time. Else, if you just started with specialty coffee, get yourself a french press. It's very hard to fucked up with a french press. You'll get consistent good tasting coffee with it.

Awesome video bro! What do you recommend for a budget coffee carafe?

i had a bialetti chemex style carafe that came with a metal filter for a couple years. the next thing i bought for pour over was a hario switch

The wave with a gabi master b is my current preferred set up.

My daily driver is a coin flip between interverted Aeropress brews or my glass Kalita Wave 185, I keep thinking about trying the V60 but also feel like "is that too much coffee equipment" haha. Maybe in a year or two when I want to try something new I'll go for the V60.

You should know Aeropress also can be used as a dripper with the advantage of no bypass. And the only dripper I will choose is Hario V60 Immersion Dripper SWITCH.

I actually bought the AeroPress first, because I brewed filter coffee mostly when I was travelling having an espresso machine at home. After getting into filter coffee and liking it, I then decided to buy the V60 simply because it’s the most common with the most brew recipes on RU-vid. After brewing with it for a while now and liking the different styles, I now also bought an April brewer as a flat brewer option. I hope this will be it now! 😅

I’ve gotten some good cups on my wave. I want to buy the v60 too!

Are you still working on the battle of the pour over dropper video you mention around 2:43?

love all ur vids!

Love these vids even though I'm a heretic. No recipes. No weighing. Boil water in a simple kettle. Still, that Kalita gives me the rich profile I look for in a second wave style cup of coffee. Richness. Defs not down with the youngsters and their sock water. But love their enthusiasm and dedication to perfection.

I have a V60 and love it. Looking to buy something to brew with when having guests over. Would a large Origami be the same as a Chemex for multiple drinks?

I've read and seen demos that the glass kalita wave has a much faster draw down time compared to its ceramic and metal brothers.

I really like my Chemex, but 1) I think it looks stylish sitting on the floating shelves above my coffee station, and 2) I don’t brew small amounts of coffee. If I want small I turn to the espresso machine. So it works for me. All that being said, a Large version of the Origami in a signature color like red would be welcomed.

Out of all my dripper (which isn't that many), my go-to has always been Timemore B75. It gives me the best balanced cup and it has a very fast draw down. Granted, I felt that my preference is towards the taste of flat-bottom brewer. I haven't tried origami (planning to) but i heard Kalita Wave is prone to stalling so i'm rather avoiding it.

I would go with the Origami as well. The most versatile of the three for sure

I would like to have seen a blind test, but it sounds like all 3 are pretty good picks. I feel like the chemex gets no love lol

i love your videos so much ❤

Did you adjust the grind size to work optimally for each of the different pour over brewers?

Hi Kyle, where can I find the coffee you used in the video?

Excellent video!!!

Kalita Wave for the win! indestructible and longevity is key imo plus filters are dirt cheap

Did u use the same grinding measure for each method?

When will you be reviewing the Stagg X / XF Dripper ?

Uhh Hario V60 switch, like a Clever dripper, with a V60. Looks good easy to use and clean. Origami is great, but too darn fragile to use daily, and I have the wooden stand so it makes me not want to use it, takes forever to wait for it to cool down carefully wash it, and clean it. Kalita Wave is good for some coffee, but not all, and filters are considerably costlier. I been trying out the Timemore Crystal Eye, bought it cheap to hit free shipping, pretty good actually, I like the design, very different, it doesn't push the filter out and a lot less fragile, very thick all things considered, and looks flashy.

I have been trying to find a pour-over that would give my coffee sweetness, I am not a big fan of acidity. I am going to give the Kalita Wave a try.

Even more body with the Origami and Wave filters. Then Kalita sort of tastes a bit tea like in body. Perfect for Kenyan coffees I must say.

great video!

With the origami can it be used the generic filters from electrical coffee makers?

V60 for me. Brews decent coffee and I'm not buggering around with hot liquid using something without a handle.

Would you say the origami may be under extracted compared to the v60?

Origami, it’s way more versatile than the others. I use Kalita filters using Coffee with April’s brew recipe or I use Chemex filters with a higher 20g of coffee to 300g of water if I want a different flavor or a bigger cup. On top of that the Origami looks nicer on the bar. I get way nicer cups with the Origami than my Chemex or my Kalita and most definitely my Melitta which was a V60 like brewers but with a smaller single hole.

Great comparison! I'll probably still stick with my v60 though as I do prefer a cup with more sweetness

V60 been my main for over 10 years. The origami is lovely though

UGH! I just ordered the Fellow Stagg kettle and the fellow Stagg pour over. I hopeI did the right thing

I prefer my V60 with a reusable hemp filter. I tried the hemp filter in the Origami, but it wasn't to my preference. I've yet to find a paper filter that I like. I also like the Cafellissimo which requires zero filter.

Wait ... Faster flow rate= more acid? I thought the opposite was true? Or am I thinking astringent? Which filter do you like for leaving the least fines in your cup?

I don’t think I will ever use my kalita after getting my origami (unless Im traveling and don’t want to break it). I’m curious how the Kalita 155 compares to the origami small. Does the having a more narrow funnel on the flat bottom have an affect on taste? I’ve also been using a collapsible brass funnel for my flat bottom filters that works really well.

I like the Kalita the best, but I find it so hard to get a consistent cup out of it. When it’s good it’s the best pour over coffee I’ve ever had, but sometimes it just comes out under or over extracted despite the same process being followed. Need more practice I guess. Clever dripper is the best for solid consistency in a pour over style brewer in my experience, but my daily driver is always the Aeropress.

Beautiful montage

You can use the stagg filters on the origami

which brand of origami filter do you have?

Kalita is best beginner pour over imo, it’s extremely forgiving. Get the glass over the metal to avoid over-extraction.

Here's another versatile dripper to add into the collection: Torch Mountain dripper

Call me a traditionalist, but coming from years of French Press and Aero Press, I’m not terribly fond of my coffee tasting like tea 😂😂 Happy I got the Kalita Wave.