Up here in Wisconsin. Lots of guys are running a Lefthander Chassis. Which is the offset Chassis in the Limited late model and Super. Actually alot of tracks up here have re named the LL model to the Pro Late model and Super late model. Thanks for the info.
Iv looked up stuff about how to fix things on race car or work on them and couldn’t find anything. I think this channel would really grow if there were more tutorial vids on how to do certain things pertaining to a race car! Keep up the good work!!
Just discovered the channel and I love it! Just recently started getting into asphalt late model racing and it’s cool to see the behind the scenes of the racing you guys do!
Glad you put this together! I've always wanted to know the difference between the two, but now I love local racing better now that I understand it better. What are the advantages and disadvantages with both? Is there anything set-up wise that carries over from one to the other, or are they two different schools of thought when it comes to suspension geometry?
Nicely done, very clear, concise and informative. Thank you. I appreciate the work you put into the channel and into your career. Keep moving forward with speed....
New subscriber here. Been working on SLM, PLM, Sportsman, & Arca Menard Pro Series West cars since '87 and spotting since '01. I like your channel and this video is right on the money. Great job and good luck Saturday!!
Yo! Congrats on 10k man ive watched for a while and i love the videos i watched at school during social studys (because i hated my teacher in that class) he always said its ridiculous and i didnt care what he thought because the videos made time go by faster thanks for putting out great videos and keep up the good work my guy!
Great video, you couldnt have done any better. In the super with a built vs a crate, some series do give a weight break to the crate lates and if done correctly, a crate can be every bit as good as a built late. As far as rear ends, the truck arm rear acts as a lever, from the front mount on the truck arms to the track bar. Forward bite is affected by which hole you mount the truck arms in..low, middle or high. That is best for a bigger track/ one with more sweeping corners. The center of the turn speed is higher and the drivers roll back into the throttle. At a smaller track / tight radius corners, the 3rd link allows more pinion angle ( input yoke of the rear end hangs down by a couple degrees) allowing greater bite by the rear tires because of the needed quicker application of the throttle, as mid corner speed is much lower. We could also talk roll centers and castor as well, but I think yall get the idea lol And btw, congrats on 10K subs!!
Thanks PJ! I understand truck arms and how they work/operate as that is what i’ve always ran and worked on, but the 3-link stuff is different for me completely. Great info thank you 🤘🏻
The pro late model 3 link setup they are still considered trailing arms. That's what we run up here in Indiana. They're all pretty much super late models here besides being on an 8 inch slick instead of a 10 inch slick.
@@LandonHuffmanRacing thanks, means a lot! We’re going to work on adding in additional content into the mix as well and bringing back our shop videos. Your work really inspires us to want to do more, keep it up!
Thank you for a great video! I thought I knew the difference in these car types, but I didn't. I have a better handle on it now. I looked up the different engine types you mentioned, and my gosh, NASCAR needs to keep the rules such that a guy can afford to race. Car counts are down many places, and no wonder if the engine you need is more than 14K!
It has ups and downs, before long they will introudce a cost saving initiative that will last several years, then people will figure out ways to make it more expensive again
Hoping to get back into late model racing in the near future so I appreciate the info! Been watching a lot of your videos trying to learn as much as I can before I look at buying a car. The tracks/series I want to race up here in Canada have a bunch of engine options and allow straight rail and perimeter chassis so I'm definitely going to be looking for a straight rail car
Awesome video Landon! I've always wondered what the difference was between the 3. LM, Pro, and Super. I grew up like a mile from Oxford Plains speedway in Maine, and practically lived there during the summer, and they raced what was called Late models back then. Not sure if it is or was the same thing as you race now here. Now they race all three I think. It may have been called the Sportsman division at one point early on. Thanks for the clarification!
Very good vlog......when we raced we always built our motors so when they went to 602 and 604...i had been out of the game for a while and when someone asked me if we were running a 604 i would say no it's a 362 or what ever built motor size at the time.. i looked like and idiot....great vlog and i still enjoy watching carolina sportsmen wish i lived closer. Good luck this weekend
I've always wanted to know this. I'm in the north east (Maine). You're knowledge is great. Ty for the video. Great job Landon! Maybe if you get 10k subs do some merch giveaway.
@@LandonHuffmanRacing here in the South East, are Limited Late Models pretty much perimeter chassis as well? Just more "Economical" rule packages compared to the late mode stocks? I know you touched on that a little bit in the video about cost to race.
I watched your video about the costs of running a late model before watching this one, and let me say it's a lot more expensive than I thought it was (and may or may not have crushed my hopes and dreams lol). I don't understand how you can run both late models with the operating costs.
It’s crazy to know out west we only have pro latemodels (602) and super latemodels (hammner or 9:1 motors). I always though the east coast only had those two types of latemodels aswell, but what do you find more enjoyable, latemodel stock or Pro lates?
i’ve grown up racing late model stocks! i’ve only tested pro late models so far but my heart will always lie with LMSC. Excited to race my pro car some though!
I didn't know you guys had to run 3 or 4 speeds in the supers. In the midwest, the outlaw supers and even template sportsman cars run direct drive transmissions. (Bert, Brynn, Falcon)
With car counts dwindling across the country in various late-model divisions, why the need for late-model, liimited, and the pro division? Could any weight be added to a super in order for it to run with the pro latel models? Can an offset chassis car run in a division with those using a perimeter chassis? Great channel! Stumbled across it last week.
offset chassis will always be at an advantage if you race them against perimeter cars because they are offset. There are divisions that combine pro and super late model already! and the late model stock stuff is very regional so it doesn’t really hurt the overall count of them if there are offset divisions running!
most dry! and limited late models in the south east (or charger) are the same chassis as late model stock, but run crate engines and sometimes have rulesets geared to save money on shocks, springs, etc. They often race on scuff tires to save money as well
New subscriber and a follower of your videos yesterday. You mentioned in another comment the offset cars are easier to steer and handle. Is there a cost, safety or other reason that NASCAR requires a perimeter roll cage?
There are Chevy and ford crate motors, but the Enforcer engine reigns supreme. No obligations from manufacturers to run a certain engine with said body
been watching ur channel for awhile amazing content i’m 15 and would love to make it to nascar one day every kids dream obviously but would you tent to make more money in the supers or stock?
Racers don't race to make money, they race to race. You will be lucky to even come close to breaking even without decent sponsorship, and then it's still a stretch. Landon has a video about the costs of racing at his level. I suggest watching that video and seeing what the costs really are. But biggest thing is, learn all you can, have a great work ethic, and don't give up! Not everyone makes it to the Cup Series, but there are thousands of great drivers racing every weekend around the country
@@jesschambers6551 very well said! There’s an old saying about what’s the fastest way to become a millionaire… start with 2 million and go racing 😂 It’s the passion and constant push for that “one moment” that makes all the time and money worth it!
Would you ever consider running your SLM in the northeast? We have a touring series called the pro all star series. Very competitive division and I’d love to see you race up here
The weight. Cup cars aren't designed to run on 1/4 mile or half miles though banking helps. Cup cars are designed for momentum. Your supers would beat the shit out of.cup cars on a 1/4 miler
I'm a little late to this, but do the LMS and SLM use the same body panels? Because I've watched a couple of LMS & SLM races and they seem to use the same body panels even though they have different chassis underneath.
ACT far wouldn’t be legal in late model stock, they are kind of a weird hybrid between the two cars but i’m not positive on the inner workings of that series!
each series has different rules! i ran my pro late model in carolina pro series this year with a min weight of 2750. My late model stock had to weigh 3100!
@@LandonHuffmanRacing well of I had more time to work the setup I could. They were running 14.6 in the mean. That car with 602 has ran 14.3s but it was last minute deal we put together for FFR. to honor them. Had so many issues from over heating. Brake problems. Carb loading up. Spent 1070 on set of tires plus 200 entry fees and fuel. Ended up $170 in the hole and same damage to fix. Lol more content for the channel lmfao
We should join up and I can promote you on my channel and like wise like I do with FFR. They actually sponsor my street stock $25 for heat race win and $50 for every maen event win. But to be honest I sponsor them to and always give back more than I take!!! Just the way I am!!! Hit me up if you want to work something out. Don't need to be money trade for exposure work good for me. I want us all to do big things on RU-vid bro.
no limit, but the late model stock car with an enforcer engine puts out around 500ish, while the super late model has a built motor that puts out around 600! Pro late models run crate motors that vary from 350-400hp
@@LandonHuffmanRacing my mother's madina name is Harrington I was just curious, going to Google them. As far as enforcer it's just a cool word sounds good i think? Lol Thank you so much