This unfolding is so odd and quiet. It is almost imperceptible and yet it’s growing. Like the slow dawning of day in the morning. You just notice, every now and again, it’s brighter than it was.
This is such an accurate description of the experience here as well. You slowly start to notice that the shining is there before any thought of making an effort to bring it about.
My interpretation when Rupert asks the lady, "I"....what is that?", is that she gives the perfect answer, ("I cannot answer") but she doesn't realise it because she means it differently. The "I" is completely incapable of knowing the answer "What is I"?" or "Who am "I" because it's looking for the answer in the realm of ideas and concepts. It's turning to itself. This is really what Rupert is also saying...that freedom exists in the unbound, the unmanifest, the unimagined - it's in the void, and the absence of the "I"...
Nice session.... Ultimately it's a simple switch ... If one 'believes' that one is the body-mind complex excitement, adrenaline and it's attendant consequences will ensue... If one 'realizes' that body-mind r tools that can be used, one is freed... One is freed frm compulsions of thought, word and action .. again if one is 'bored' and seeks excitement one goes onto believe one is the body-mind ...
Very soothing. Inhabiting a wild, radical and obscure personified mind, I've had some difficulty on believing to be liberated and free, although that has been my experience lately, as these strange and incredibly intense properties aren't very commonly witnessed in teachers. But it always felt like that. Like being the Ultimate Philosopher-Jester of all Creation. Being free and just trolling people for the fun of it, seeing if they can pierce through the mask or not. In a way being a faceless mirror in which they can indirectly see the state of their awareness. It is peaceful and tranquil as well. But the laughter is like of a movie villain and some of the thoughts are too. Still, who is doing what to whom? Who is the perpetrator and what is a victim? Answer this question and the divide between polarities collapse and everything becomes Divine.
Really a great conversation this. Our egos / conditioned personality wants to make it more complicated, like some big goal that needs to be achieved. Just as a side note the conversation also reminded me of a scene from the film anger management.. "but who are you Dave?"
He definitely helps me loosen my tendency to complicate things. I breathe better when he's listening. Funny how I learn that way., Grateful for these talks.
The "I am" and our experience go together because the self is formed by the experience. It's not possible to be without experiencing except in profound meditation or deep sleep.
We are placed in roles, which we daily play. Having a "Job" to survive, not bcz i love what i'm doing. So, I work to survive instead bcz I love it. Being "forced" to carry on, at the same time its eating up all my energy. So at the end i don't have enough power and cash, to change situation. Another important cause is, not knowing for sure where i really want to focus on, where I want to go too with my life. I know much better the things i don't want. This citcumstance brings me again and again to the point where i stay at the edge, having the fear of . . . / feeling so lost sometimes. .
Until and Unless one have stilled their MIND through some kind of meditation or some other practice and stabilized IT in one's BEING, almost everything about DIRECT PATH will feel like FAIRY TALE, INTELLECTUAL BullS.....
I wish I knew about this path earlier, years of sitting were not even close to what Self-inquiry led me to. And I can't really tell if those years were actually helpful or not (it feels like they were not very much).
@@andore8639 after years of sitting, you eventually came to self-inquiry. those years are an unseparable part of that path. it couldn't have happened in any other than the way in which you experienced it, nothing is wasted
In my understanding there is no need to still the mind, only to be aware of awareness itself. Thoughts can occur but they are not identical to your true nature, observe them. Awareness welcomes all experience, even an unquiet mind.
I love this belief that our being is unlimited 'space'. The problem I have is this is also our definition of God (infinite space, time, possibility..). So am I God just dreaming up all the other people? Or is every person a separate perspective or facet of God's infinitely faceted eye? (multifaceted sort of like a bee's eye) Or is there only one of us living every life but just one at a time? (reincarnation) In other words, how many Gods are there then? An infinite amount? Many? One? Or Zero.
Somehow it does not look like she became free by hearing those pointings. Liberation does not happen by some mental clicks. Bliss suppose to accompany freedom.
@@Nothingbuttruth0 I’m sorry but that’s not what it is. If we use the word Self-realization we need to understand where this term comes from and what it signifies traditionally. Self-realization equals to Moksha, recognising one’s nature in samadhi. We do however practice everyday medication, in order to purify body and mind, in order to reach Self-realization. It is a prices that can take quite some time until full integration takes place. We can indeed practice samadhi, come in and out, however that’s not the same as Self-realization.
Well.. you may do the same things but how you react to life can be different. Many people are in a cycle of negative thought interspersed with moments of fleeting happiness where they identify with the turmoil of the inner voice. Realising the nature of awareness can be liberating, but someone still has to pay the mortgage!
The unqualified I, Awareness, - perhaps free and peaceful - but is also INERT, INACTIVE, UNPRODUCTIVE and BORING to the mind. How do I address this? Can anyone tell me? Thank you.
RS has said elsewhere that this background awareness is "intimate". But, without judgment, memory, cares, etc., it just seems sterile and pointless. I more desire the source of dreams and art.
So darkness we merge in sometimes is a form of this inner freedom as well? I dont know... I would be interested in his answer. Anyway I would say that true self or freedom experience has some characteristic as well. It has some qualities like peacefulness, compassion or wise observation or things like this. 😄 You can put on your dark black t-shirt, but then you lose connection with your true self. Maybe there are some t-shirts which harmonize better with your true self.
"What is the power that enables you to not merge with whatever state arises?" I would like to hear Rupert's answer to that question. Would it be choice? Action? Doing?
There IS no such power. Because there are not two separate entities of 'you' and 'whatever arises. It'a all just conaciousness. Only words separate them and make them into entities which are separate...
@@alisonsalter8352 The questioner said she had felt 'darkness' - I guess she didn't like that and wanted to know how to not be with it as something that is arising. It seemed to me she was asking Rupert how to not experience that, but this film didn't answer her question.
@@OffGridMind it's not a choice....for there to be a choice, there has to be a chooser. In order for there to be a chooser, there has to be a separate self. I am not suggesting 'choosing'. I am suggesting 'resting with the true nature of what you essentailly are.' Pure awareness BEFORE the notion of there being a self which chooses even arises. "All suffering is only as real as the sense of separate self which thought imagines us to be. That self is simply non existant. All our suffering is the suffering of a non existant self." - Rupert Spira
I was thinking if Rupert had asked me this question- " tell me about your "self". My answer would be: I do not know who is this "self" , when I am engaged with my thoughts, emotions , feelings etc. I think that thoughts and feelings alone , is my reality and that is the one I am. On the contrary, when I am not engaged with my thoughts, emotions etc., but am busy and focused on some interesting activities of my liking, like sports, music, painting and other jobs, I feel a strange lightness of heart, head and body- a state of mind unlike what I feel when I am involved in thoughts, emotions and feelings. But it is difficult to locate this " self" which is happy and at peace when I am occupied with my activities and jobs of interest . I am sure this is my true self that is very much within me and it shows up when I am out of unconscious and unsupervised mind. If that is so, it is the most easiest and quickest way to freedom. So, what is needed, is to spend your waking hours in activities that are of interest to you and keep you busy , focused, productive and present in the moment. As soon as you drift in non - activities, your mind takes you over and takes you to long trips into your past and future and creates illusions and illusory world for you and you are in pain. Your job is not to identify your true "self" with it and be courageous enough to tell your mind not to hijack your " self" into the illusory worlds. But remember that all your activities in the present moment should have pure and pious means and objectives. If either means or objectives are ill meaning, you may reach your goals but will not be peaceful and happy because the unjust means and objectives will come in the way of your happiness. The unjust means and objectives are driven by your separate self and not by your true self - the consciousness. To find out what is just and unjust and what is pure and impure, you need to be in touch with the ancient wisdom, great teachings of religions, traditions and philosophies , which have come to us through centuries of scanning.
@@blueapple9077 yes , students wrote all of it in the book because he had slightly impaired speech. Amazing work! I wish i could follow that lifestyle forever
Light: Vassula Ryden TLIG. one is a Temple. Whats inside the tabernacle wish is one heart? evil? sin? wrong way. God Love, Peace, joy? right way to Heaven.
