What Is The Mark of The Beast??? 

If you really want to understand Revelation (& also the gospels), read the works of Barbara Thiering, especially 'Jesus of rhe Apocalyse'. Before she passed away, she was the worlds leading expert on the Dead Sea Scrolls, & the pesher technique. Her works will help you immensely. They helped me. I've been studying all this for about 20 years. Also, read the works of Laurence Gardner. He was an archeological historian. His books are also amazing.

@@lanabowers5332 Another amazing book is "Reading Revelation Responsibly" by Michael Gorman

Bible eschatology is about the end of the old covenant and it's system of worship. All was fulfilled in AD70. No more temple, no priesthood, no more sacrifices. Most American Christians are totally deceived by the Zionists who want to rule the world. It Isn't theirs to rule.

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The Antichrist committed suicide in AD68. His name calculated to 666 in Hebrew Gematria. Caesar Nero.

I’ve always thought that the Antichrist will come from the lineage of Ham, Noah saw the corruption and exiled him after the flood for a reason. And he went and his line created all Pagan Gods and the false religions….

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No, it’s not logical. The lineage of Jesus was because he is God and came to be a human. And lineage was needed to take him back to Adam as he is the second Adam. in human, we all fell and in a human, we are saved. The second atom needed to be human, also needed to be God because only God could fulfill the requirement. Holding the view that you do, the antichrist can’t be anything but human. If you’re trying to parallel Jesus, then you would need another immaculate conception from the devil for the antichrist to be born from. And then the human aspect would go through Abraham all the way back to Adam. There’s no parallel needed or suggested in any eschatological view that I’m familiar with that there should be one. I think it’s a fine thought and something to throw on the table and discuss, I just don’t think it’s logical.

If you think we are still in Satan’s Little Season, then you are *_still_* deceived. Do you know what the other name is for the Little Season?

​@@michaelseay9783Time of deception?

Johns Beast is the same as Paul 's beast , a man that is killed and raises back to life incarnate with apollyon and receives power from satan

Not to mention all the other "imminent" language. "Behold, I come quickly", etc.

Ottoman Empire has been resurrected… Don’t buy Rome anymore. Resurrected Ottoman Empire is going after Israel and Christians…

Revelation is divided between the non sealed prophecy..those prophecies soon fulfilled. The dividing point comes when the 7 thunders sound and john is told to not write the words of the thunders. After that an angel from heaven reveals those prophecies in vision form that John writes but does not understand. This starts after the fall of the beast from the sea and is replaced by the 7 headed dragon beast ridden by the whore from the wilderness. Imo this represents Christianity becoming the whore and is what replaces the fallen beast of Rome. The catholic church rode the new beast and stepped into the Roman power that ruled from the seven hills city... mystery Babylon. Part of the prophecies were sealed so to speak because part of revelation is for many years ahead from time of writing. Just like in Daniel. The first part was fulfilled " at hand" just as John said.

@@karens3805 had Nothing to do with the Roman church. The time frame is locked into mid 1st Centry. Rev 1:1. 1:3. Closing Rev 22:6, Rev 22:10

Well Tim believes Charles is the Antichrist and shows evidence in his coat of arms but Charles is 75 years old Jesus during his ministry ws in his 30s a big difference not a lot like Charles even in UK despite what media says maybe it will be handed to William funny that like me it contains I AM just a thought really.

Revelation 19:20 New King James Version 20 Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence, by which he DECIEVED those who received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image. These two were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone.

@@cwschannel777 They were deceived by the signs, not by the mark. They accepted the mark knowingly believing he was a God. Pull it up in the amplified.

No Christian will be here because of the rapture. Tribulation Saints must worry, because God sends a delusion, or maybe you didn't read that...

It has not happened yet ,, so that indicates it is yet to come ....

Yes it is an Anti-Shema

There’s more wrong with this than there is right. Jesus proved that God is interested in defeating the enemies that are behind the scenes of the evil supernatural powers. Whether it’s Islam or the corrupt political system of the United States of America it is the evil forces behind that God dealt with through the victory of the cross and resurrection. These evil power brokers whether through religious systems or corrupt political systems may have their time under the sun for now, but the sun is bringing everything underneath his feet with his bride who is the church… that’s what revelation teaches us.

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I would encourage you to not be "content" .. but to always study and consider the views with the harmony and story of scripture..... And be willing to define... I don't know what you mean by "post millennial".... in the classic definition it is after 1000 literal years. I would tell you that there is not 1000 literal years. And partial preterist is great, but know the difference in full preterist views. I would be considered full, but not anything like the "full" I see many advocate. Therefore, I don't use the term for myself..... so I will never be content but continually study to see if I missed anything and if my view holds up to scripture. If I stayed content I would still be a dispensational pre-mill...

Consider specific text as a single tree, in a grove of trees, in a very large forest. One can not understand the forest by reading a single tree, one must view the tree through the lens of a healthy forest.

@@GraniteChief369Tell me what mark is being applied upon the people’s foreheads in Ezekiel 9.

@@michaelseay9783 These 'marks' are metaphors for buying into corrupt systems. Like when someone today says 'I have a ton of work to do' does not literally mean 2000 lbs worth of work.

@@michaelseay9783 No one knows yet , but it will be something you must prove you have to be able to buy or sell ,,, much more than a metaphor

preterists will be caught off guard like many others will

No matter your view, take it all into consideration, stay connected to the vine and stay alert. 💖

Preterism is a counter-reformation false doctrine spawned from the pen of the Jesuit monk Luis de Alcaser circa. 1601 A.D.

And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. {Revelation 17:15} The seven headed beast of Revelation 17: The seven heads are symbolic of seven kingdoms, starting with the beast of Daniel chapter 7 1st < Babylon 2nd < Medo-Persia 3rd < Greece 4th < Pagan Rome 5th < Papal Rome; the little horn ("that was" & "is not" & "yet is") 6th < "one is" ^ The woman that rides the beast is in captivity at the time of John's vision, AFTER receiving the deadly wound from the (atheist) beast from the bottomless pit [Rev 11:7]. This is the beast of THE TIME of John's vision IN THE WILDERNESS. (Meaning that John is in the wilderness in his vision and not physical on Patmos, and he sees a beast that would come up from out of this wilderness. Read Job 38:26.) The 7th < "is not yet come" At the time of John's vision *in the wilderness* this head of the beast was yet to come; this is *the beast from out of the earth* [Rev 13:11]; (And he shall exercise all of the power of the first beast...) when this beast will speak like a dragon. This beast must continue a short time, as per the others before him. I believe by the testimony of Jesus, that we are now living in that "short time". The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. {Revelation 17:8} :11...even he is the eighth, AND IS OF THE SEVEN, and ascends out of the bottomless pit and goes into perdition. --There are seven heads at the time of John's vision, five kings/heads/beast are fallen, so this eighth is of the seven kingdoms...."that was"...."and is not"...."yet is" AND received a deadly wound; AND his deadly wound was healed. This wound is the loss of her (the woman/church that rides the beast.) temporal sword (also her captivity), which is the earthly secular world kingdom. This is the image of the beast (that great city), who like Babylon of antiquity, who thinks to usurp church and state craft. The number eight is a metaphor for the resurrection. The eighth is resurrected from a former head of the seven; the 5th head that received a deadly wound. (When he shall go into perdition: this will be the final dispensation of this beast with seven heads, that is a metaphor for satan.) Jesus; (The resurrection; Jn 11:25) Ἰησοῦς/Iēsous = 888 by counting the letter values of the Greek transliteration; I(10), E(8), S(200), O(70), U(400), S(200). In antiquity the mountain was not only a metaphor for a kingdom, but it was also symbolic of the head of a (river) dragon that was symbolic of a river that flows out from a mountain, after the spring thaw and overflowing its banks, spreading out in the form of the dragon's tail. The color is scarlet because it is symbolic of the blood of the saints of the Lord. A woman in prophecy is always a metaphor for a church, in this case (Jezebel) it is the fallen temple of God. The false prophet, a lamb (Christ like) with two horns, and/but will speak like a dragon (a wolf in sheep's clothing), will be the beast (from out of the earth ... the USA) that will make an image unto the first beast from out of the sea, who received a deadly wound and his deadly wound was healed. The two horns are a metaphor for two (equal) kingdoms in one, church and state craft. Medo-Persia also is expressed as having two horns [Dan 8:3], but one was higher, (Persia) and eventually usurps the other. This is the image of the first beast from out of the sea (Papal Rome). Once the wall of separation of church and state is lost, then will the second beast from out of the earth become the image of the first beast, who claims the authority of both church and state. Even so, come Lord Jesus. Amen.

No this view is not right. Nero was local Revelation and the antichrist is clearly global. To say simply that the early christians viewed the Roman empire as their "whole world" is to read into it with extra biblical suppositions. The apostle john says that a third of the earth was burned up. It is clear John was prophesying of the whole globe and not just the Roman empire. In fact nowhere at all does it speak of the Roman empire in Revelation.

Ken Johnson is not a Dead Sea Scrolls Scholar. Also, neither his degree nor his wife's degree is from an accredited school. You can't even find any record of his college and his wife's college is described as a "diploma mill". He may have studied the dead sea scrolls, but he is neither a doctor nor a scholar. Those are titles that are earned.

​@Strongtower He may not be a scholar, but certainly, we can still learn from him. He does seem to put time into study and research.

it is not a scribal error. Research the numbers... from what I find, the 616 is the oldest manuscript... so it would have to be a guess that it is an error... the 666 being later could be argued that it was the error. Other explanation for the difference is different spelling for Nero's name. Nero/Neron ... Other explanations are 666 is greek spelling of Neron Kaiser and 616 Latin spelling of Nero Caesar transliterated into Hebrew.... No matter what direction one wants to approach it, you can end up with Nero.

@@greydogmusic ​​⁠ Hello brother, it seems like you flipped it on accident. People say 666 comes out to Nero if transliterated into Hebrew and 616 comes out to Nero in Latin. Either way this is a theological interpretation that came years and years after the book of Revelation. It doesn't make much sense either considering John was writing to Greek readers in Asia Minor, they would not be reading Hebrew. Manuscript evidence shows that 666 is what John wrote, not 616 (see Bruce Metzger or Philip Comfort). All of the manuscripts we have of Revelation 13:18 contain 666 except two (P115 from middle of third century and Uncial C from fifth century). Like the OP said, Irenaeus (early church father and disciple of Polycarp who was a disciple of John) writes in the middle of the second century and says that 616 is a scribal error and that 666 is original. Talking about 666, he says "it's found in all good and ancient copies" and is "attested by those who had themselves seen John face to face". This is found in Against Heresies 5.30.1. So even though two early manuscripts we currently have may say 616, this Christian writer in the second century is also aware of this 616 reading and says that all of his early manuscripts say 666 and that people who knew John say it was 666

In the original Greek text Revelation was written in , it is spelled out in words , as six hundred ; sixty and six

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Revelation 19:20 New King James Version 20 Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence, by which he DECIEVED those who received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image. These two were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone.

True Christians will not be here. The channel owner and all his followers will be here, so it will be something he will have to worry about. God sending a great delusion should worry them however, I wouldn't want to oppose God on anything...

@@doncleveland1245 if there is a pre trib rapture like you say what makes you believe that the people that have this channel and its followers won’t get swept up as well if they are followers of Christ. Just because they don’t believe in a pre trib doesn’t matter don’t know where you got this special knowledge from. I wouldn’t be second guessing God that could turn out very bad for yourself

@@doncleveland1245 the great delusion could very well be the pre trib belief

Steer clear of Joel and his team. Not a good place to be.

Church Fathers are not authoritative...Only three of them even knew Hebrew...FYI

I don’t know if it’s true, I heard Martin Luther wanted to throw it into the river.

a significant portion of earth’s population will die before the beast kingdom rises into power , most people do not realize this because no one is talking about it and assumes the beast does it all

Don't forget the great delusion God will bring on them. I wouldn't want to oppose God on anything, or be deluded by him.

Anyone not accepting Romans 10:9 is against YHWH, as no one comes to the Father except through the Son Jesus, YESHUA.

why would he give only 1st century christians something that applied to them and not our day ... easy, it applied to them. Did Noah telling the people of his day the flood was coming not the same thing? Did God telling Israel what would happen to them if they broke His covenant the same thing? Didn't apply to the Romans, not under HIs covenant. When Jesus told the disciples that the Temple would be torn down, did it apply to anyone at the time other than the Jews. Did any other nation care? .... If ... If the prophesy of Revelation was written in 65 to warn the Christians at that time to get out, why do you think we in the 21st century have to have it apply to us? Isn't it the best proof that Jesus predicted something so devastating that came to pass 40 years later enough of an application to us to show He is the Messiah? .. There are lots of Old Testament passages that pertain to Israel that are hot applied to us so nothing says that Revelation HAS to pertain to the modern church. It is just an interpretation, maybe right, maybe wrong. That is why we discuss it. ..... Why so detailed, Taking a preterist position here, to show the christians how serious it is to break covenant and to show that he would do and did do what he told Israel would take place if they broke his covenant....as far as "a third of the world was supposed to be burnt up? That actually never happened..." You interpret that as literal, ever think it would be symbolic as many parts are? You as a 21st century Christian know of the "world/planet".. They did not. To the Jew at that time world was the Roman Empire. As far a burning of course the views that are not pre-mellenial have an answer to that. That is where study comes in. I think one should study all views and see how they handle the hard passages and how each line up with the salvation story. ... now, taking a pre-millennial position, a third of the earth can mean....The figure of ‘a third’ used in each of the first four trumpets reveals that God’s judgments are partial and destructive, but not yet final... so it is symbolic in both positions... unless your a literalist... bring on the locust.

@@greydogmusic I still maintain that to try to explain everything away symbolically is to deny the plain meaning of scripture. "Has God spoken and will he not DO it?". You are saying that the many prophecies regarding the messiah and Israel are actual events transpiring on earth and then you split the personality and say but any other prophecies (i.e. cataclysms and end times) are merely symbolic. Noah was not only grounded in time and space but the events were FORETOLD by God and God warned them beforehand. Peter says Noah is instructive but in a future time it will be destruction by fire. Revelation expands on Peter's end time statement by prophesying how thus will unravel in the end times with heavenly (astronomical) events as well as earthly events such as the earth being burned up. I simply cannot subscribe to a view which carves up scripture and says this bit is future prophetic but this other bit does not mean what it sounds like, it is instead symbolic.

@@truthfalcon886 your analysis is very disjointed... you say you won't which only means you are not able to describe your view and counter view in accurate detail. If one holds a preterist view they are not 'explaining away" using symbolism .They are taking the symbolism in the Old Testament and applying it to the symbolism in Revelation. ... That does not "deny" the plain meaning of scripture... It might deny your view of some things being literal. I have no idea what you are saying, has god spoken and will he not do it... God has spoken in the Old Testament what he would do the the Jews if they broke his covenant, the preterist view is, he did it. He did what he said he would do.... I have no idea how you say that I said I said that "other prophecies" are symbolic... you have to be more specific... Revelation does contain apocalyptic language that you can find in the Old Testament. Not sure if the is what you refer to. As far as God warning before the flood, yes, I would say God warned Jews before 70 ad also... Revelation. Same thing. And he warned them in the Old Testament. ... I am not sure what verses you are saying about Peter and Revelation expanding on it.. .but, I would agree. Peter told them what was going to happen, Revelation affirmed it, It happen. To us it is past. ... It makes sense that it is this way, in the pre-mil view there is a prophecy, it comes to past... i.e the rapture, then anyone after that who reads the Bible, it is history to them... same principle. ... The astronomical events you refer to, I assume it is the same ones you see in the OT... Ezekiel 32:7.. literal?? Micah 1:4 ... and there are many more... But Revelation has to be literal. Only because that is what you were taught. ... as far as you saying you can not subscribe to a view which carves up scripture and says this bit is future prophetic but this other bit does not mean what it sounds like... First, I did not carve up anything. I said some of it that you may take literal might be symbolic. It is done, look at the parables, can be taken literal but they are symbolic. ... So yes, some of the literal things you read could be symbolic. Like the fire. As I quoted a pre-mil who said so. There are many things a pre-mill had to say is not literal. If the Tribulation is future, How can John say he was a partaker in it. If the book was written in 95 after the destruction how does John say measure the temple. It's gone. ... I am not saying you have to take it that I am correct. I do say you should learn all teaching as accurately as you can and let the Holy Spirt teach you as he sees fit. Be able to explain the views and see what the weakness are, and the errors. I heard a sermon the other day where the pastor said it was fullfilled in 70 ad but it also will be fulfilled in our future.... NO where in the passage did it say anything about the future. He injected it. why. Because that is what he was taught. I went to a pre-mil college, pre-mil seminary so I know the teaching. I understand the preterist position somewhat. Not as well as I am still learning it. I do hold that it is more in harmony with the teachings of scripture.. but that is hours and hours of study and books. .. neither your nor I could lay down our auguments here. Which I know your position already anyway. My challenge to you is learn the other position(s) whether you hold them or not. Only so you represent them accurately when you explain why you have a problem with it. And both sides have some variations so we may not get all the data. We do our best... Crown to Cross here on Facebook is a good place to learn. I may not agree with everything he says but he does a good job of going through scripture. His past week of stuff is pretty stellar. You say you can't believe..yea you can if you see how it lays out and The HS convinces you that it is accurate. That is up to him. As I said, I was a dispensationalist for many years. But, had questions that just did not make sense. The New Covenant position answers them, and makes mores sense to me Gods workings in scripture. I have a friend, ex pastor, that sends me stuff all the time. I listen to the sermons. Today was John McArthur on Revelation 8. I listen. There might be something I missed. I encourage him and you, look into the other views... RC Sproul here on YT the last days according to Jesus. 12 thirty min. messages. I pass that along and a "introduction".. just so people learn. Don't have to agree. I have changed doctrines over the years. Don't think you can't, you might be surprised. Let the Bible tell you what is symbolic and what fits. Most of all, read the Bible as a fist century Christian. That is who it was written to. Much applies to us, but some of it only applied to its audience. The books of Corinthians, do you have the problems in your life that Paul covered. It applied to what was going on in that congregation. We learn from it and apply it as needed to us. Are women to keep silent in the church? No. It was for the problem that they were having. Only applies to us if we acquire the same problem.... May God bless your studies and you get the last word. As I said, it is too much and too many hours of discussion for messages to each other. I have watched hours and hours of teaching and debate on yourtube. Taken notes and compared. can't do it this way. Good luck and learn it accurately, even your own view as if questions come your way... have the answer... and gog and maggot are not Russia... And remember, Rev 11:8, boils will lie in the street of the great city which mystacally is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified... Literal?..it is Jerusalem ...Read slowly and you might find Babylon may refer to Jerusalem too. I love that you also are passionate for the word.

I appreciate your response but i will end with this. There are so many old testament unfulfilled prophecies that your preterist view fail to explain. One example is the 3rd temple which never existed. How do you explain a temple that never was? Until we admit it must be future? I should add i have never seen myself as a dispensationalist. I was never taught prophecy at my church (end times prpphecy) I came to the conclusion through reading the bible and later confirmed it with online theological teaching. However you used the label "dispensationist" not me! I don't believe in a pre-trib rapture and i do believe in premillenialism.

Agreed. AI is man’s attempt at being like God. This will not end well for humanity but this is not a surprise to God.

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Yes, especially when Paul reminds us that WE are now the Temple that the Holy Spirit chooses to reside within.

@@TheresaGraf “The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not seek after God: God is not in all his thoughts.” (Psalms 10:4, KJV)

not really , there will be people that survive the Wrath of God that did not take the mark of the beast , they will repopulate the earth during the Millennium , they will be the people that Jesus and the Saints rule and reign over

not accurate

@@enigmainwater2493 glad I could be a part of agreeing to disagree. Iron sharpens iron

@@telefellavision Sure , who do you think the people that Jesus and the Saints rule over ? what scripture do you have ?

@@enigmainwater2493 I already left the scriptures before you ever responded

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YES!!! You are 100% correct. What is on the hand and before the eyes in Deuteronomy? God's laws and what God has done! In a nutshell... The religion of God. The true religion. It's who God is, what He's done, and the rules He's given. So... the mark represents a religion! The number tells you which one! I had typed out a long reply giving insight into the first and second beast, but that's probably too much info. I'll keep it short to see if it peaks your interest. The first beast: The heads are the big false religions of the world. The head wounded by the sword, that everyone thought would die, but didn't die... Is Judaism. The sword is the truth or word of God... Jesus taught the word of God to the Jews. Judaism should have listened, ended, and become a dead religion, but it rejected him and kept on going as if there was no Messiah. That makes it a false religion. Belief in God, but not Jesus... is a false religion. The second beast: So many clues here, but I'll only cover the number... The number is actually the biggest and easiest clue. What is 666? It's simple, if you don't overthink it. It's one number, made up of three numbers. Three 6's, that make one 666. The three numbers are all equal to each other. 6 = 6 = 6. Each number is not the same as the others though. The first 6 isn't the second 6, etc. They're three distinct and separate 6's. What religion fits that? One, made up of three. Those three are all equal. Those three are also all distinct and separate. Everyone keeps predicting the "antichrist", but it's been here for just shy of 2,000 years. It started shortly after Jesus was here. Billions believe in it...

But in the scripture, it is written : Six hundred sixty and six Which isn’t the same as : Six and six and six

@@williamcarr3976 Exactly... 666 (as written) is the whole false god, made up of 3 individual but equal 6's.

IMO. Not a reliable source✅❤️🔔

@ringthebell. WhatWould you suggest using instead of strongs???

@@juliebaggs6475 Lots of different resources. I use an interlinear Bible, mixed with Liddell and Scott's Greek-English Lexicon and Robert Alter's Hebrew Translation with Commentary. Those are great ways to get to the root meaning of the word or phrase. What do you mainly use Strongs for?

Strongs is highly regarded world wide as a very reliable source , it is not perfect but none is perfect , I see on Strongs and others as six hundred - sixity - and six , and some side notes that mention 616 , there is no other definitions , even so since Nero committed suicide and was not killed by Jesus in the 2nd coming , it is not possible that Nero is the beast of Rev 13 or 2 Thess 2 Strongs is a concordance that provides the original Greek words and Hebrew words and their meaning

The only people that don't like Strongs is those when Strongs oppose or refute a meaning that is incorrect is placed on the words . Using bible translations are quite varied so using a english translation or various versions bring in confusion because there are many Greek and Hebrew words that do not have an English equivalent That is why we see so many differing opinions on what scripture means Commentaries can be useful at times but still they are just opinions of how specific people perceive what they read and offer their opinions , and many times they are incorrect or have so many possibilities that they don't have clarity

Wait it was written after? That’s mindblowing!

The beast of Rev 13 and 2 Thess 2 is a particular manthat dies and returns to life being incarnate with apollyon , being given the authority from satan , as Jesus said it will be the worst time of the history of earth , most people do not understand because they just listen to some preacher that does not know or even care to know

@@Forseen-vm1qs You are reading those two chapters through a Dispensational gridwork. In Rev 13, the original 1st Century reader could figure out who the beast was if they used wisdom and understanding as "it is the number of a man" (i.e. Cesear Nero as @jessaduke2645 above said). The man of lawlessness is not specifically stated as being Nero. It could have been but it doesn't have to be. It could be an evil person towards the end of time who leads people away from King Jesus, but the King will destroy this enemy on the Last Day when He returns to earth. On that Day those who have entered His eternal kingdom now will inherit the kingdom and eternal life only found in the King. The King's enemies will be destroyed on that Last Day.

@@1754Me At the time Revelation was written 5 of the 7 Kings written of had fallen and the 6th was in power at that time , the beast will be the 7th King and will be killed and be raised back to life and be the 8th King , Nero was not the A C ,no matter how evil he was Nero did not do any of these things , and also the beast AC will be destroy by Jesus Himself at the 2nd coming when Jesus returns to be King on earth ,

@@1754Me a real forensic level of study , both Revelation and Pauls writings show clearly that the beast A C is a man that is killed and raises back to life and is then incarnate with the beast of the bottomless pit apollyon , he is then no longer pure human , and satan will be physically bound on earth after being thrown down by Arch Angel Micheal , these things have not yet happened

@@1754Me a real forensic level of study , both Revelation and Pauls writings show clearly that the beast A C is a man that is killed and raises back to life and is then incarnate with the beast of the bottomless pit apollyon , he is then no longer pure human , and satan will be physically bound on earth after being thrown down by Arch Angel Micheal , these things have not yet happened

@lemnisgate8809 - my comment was for you!

The verse is about apollyon that was in the days of Noah(was) , cast into the bottomless pit(is not ) and will ascend out of the bottomless pit and go to perdition Rev 9 11 And they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, but in Greek he has the name Apollyon.

Are you pro pretrib rapture or against it? Kinda confused on your name.

@@enigmainwater2493 "The verse is about apollyon that was in the days of Noah(was) , cast into the bottomless pit(is not ) and will ascend out of the bottomless pit and go to perdition Rev 9 11 And they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, but in Greek he has the name Apollyon." Rev 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon. Rev 9:12 One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter. Rev 9:13 And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God, The trumpets timing sequence can be determined by the 7th trumpet. Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. Rev 11:16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Rev 11:17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. The 7th trumpet is when Jesus begins to reign for ever. The time of the dead, that they should be judged and the prophets, saints, and all that fear the Lord receive their rewards. This times Rev 9 to near the end of the age. Peace, PTT

@@Strongtower I speak the truth concerning the pretrib false doctrine. Peace, PTT

@@enigmainwater2493 "The verse is about apollyon that was in the days of Noah(was) , cast into the bottomless pit(is not ) and will ascend out of the bottomless pit and go to perdition Rev 9 11 And they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, but in Greek he has the name Apollyon." Rev 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon. Rev 9:12 One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter. Rev 9:13 And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God, The trumpets can be timing sequence can be determined by the 7th trumpet. Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. Rev 11:16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Rev 11:17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. The 7th trumpet is when Jesus begins to reign for ever. The time of the dead, that they should be judged and the prophets, saints, and all that fear the Lord receive their rewards. This times Rev 9 to near the end of the age. Peace, PTT

The church has been corrupt for 2000 years. The Great Deception.

And yet the apostles were expecting Jesus to return before their death. Hmmm

@@MomToEight we are all meant to expect that. Nothing strange or misguided about that

So it sounds like you have it figured out- completely. Shall "safely ignore" you lol, kidding...ish Love does not equal obey.( Robots obey but do not love. Wind and water obeys the Lord but do not love. Trained animals obey but do not love.) Perfection is impossible so perfect obedience will not happen unless we are talking about Jesus Himself. Love means love. It's only when we trust Him that we can begin to love Him. TRUST Jesus Christ as our sufficient and only sin offering ( like the thief on the cross). That's the Gospel. (Loving Him, being grateful, obedience, glorification and worship all naturally flow out from this- though it remains imperfect because we are still human). That's having our name written in the book of Life. To have the mark of the beast, is to Not be covered by the blood of Christ

@@jpnoobieeiboonpj858 It is a contradiction to dismiss obedience, as it is God’s ultimate evidence of your faith, and declare love for his son as entirely sufficient. Love his son, but forgot the Father? Love his son, yet dismiss the Father’s commandments? Love his son and ignore doctrine as delivered by his prophets? If our God commands us proof of our love is to obey him, not to ignore him declaring how “tight” you are with his son. You seem like a snare waiting to spring on whoever steps near you focusing on your defense definitions of the meanings of words. Strong’s concordance defines the Hebrew word for love used in the Bible more traditionally translates to OBEY.

Then how do you explain herod, whom Jesus is reported as having referred to him with contempt as “that fox.”Or the disciple Matthew, who was a corrupt tax collector and was considered a traitor to his people and loyal to Rome, as were many tax collectors, before he encountered Christ.

the other main possibility, that it is in fact an allusion to Jerusalem, thus highlighting the twin pressures experienced by John’s first readers from both imperial culture and an antipathetic Jewish community. Also, many of John's readers were not Jewish Christians but gentile Christians who had to make a choice in who they would show their allegiance. Many Christians tried to be loyal to both which sounds familiar to American Christians - our we loyal to the empire (America) or Christ?

@@katiecugini979 Herod was an Edomite yet he observed the Jewish religion and was king of the Jews.

@@katiecugini979 Jesus “came to his own and his own received him not” Jesus and his disciples were persecuted by the Jews their own brethren according to the flesh, from the time John the Baptist began to preach to the fall of Jerusalem who was trying to crush the gospel and stop its spread, it wasn’t Rome.

​@@lemnisgate8809tell the first century Christian's who were being slaughtered by Rome that Rome wasnt a beast!

Nonsense! Revelation 13:1-10 the (conglomerate) beast from out of the sea. And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and *ten horns* and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. And the beast which I saw was like unto *a leopard* and his feet were as the feet of *a bear* and his mouth as the mouth of *a lion* and *the dragon* gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. {Revelation 13:1-2} Greek > philosophy Persian > religious sects and monachism Babylonian > sun worship (Mithraism) Roman > law All roads lead to THAT man of sin in Rome, wherefore he sits thinking himself God on earth. Thinking to change times and laws of God. 'Catholic Record' September 1 1923 "Sunday is our MARK of authority....The church is above the bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact." ☝️ Blasphemy! Protestants who claim to keep Sunday holy are wondering after the beast and your claim of Sola scriptura is made in vain.

Revelation was written in 95AD when John was exiled to the Isle of Patmos by Emperor Domitian Nero committed suicide around 66ad

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@Forseen-vm1qs Nero led the first, longest, and most intense persecution of Christians. John would have been in his mid 90's if he wrote Revelation in 95AD, hardly believable 2000 years ago. How did the Christians survive the destruction of Jerusalem if they had not been warned and fled to the mountains beforehand?

@@GraniteChief369 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and *it had ten horns* (The divided kingdom of Rome after 479 A.D.) I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them *another little horn* before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things. (This little horn comes up after the ten horns.) Preterism is a counter-reformation *false doctrine* spawned from the pen of the Jesuit monk Luis de Alcaser circa. 1601 A.D. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth [pagan Rome] will let, until he be taken out of the way.

Did you actually call Dr. Heiser clueless? The irony!

@@jessicasanchez5765 yes, I did say that. Take some time to digest what I said in my 1st sentence. If you still feel there’s any element of “irony”, re-read it again.

and your hurting those trying to lean by calling fomenting "lies" and not informing those who read your post what the lies are. Your view could be the lies. There are so many "opinions" and they can't all be correct. To label something you disagree with as lies is quite unfair. That is why we open our Bibles and have discussion. We check each other, share and learn. It is only a lie if one knows they are not teaching what they have learned and believe what they have learned is the correct view. Then, to teach a falsehood is a lie. You don't even explain how humanity is being hurt. Your post is like a drive by..... shoot and run. Nothing in it of educational or exhortational value.

Hamas hides amongst women and children. The will be collateral damage with that kind of behavior. Does the idf hide amongst women and children? No so Hamas is at fault for their actions, they choose to sacrifice their own women and children for their cause. So you can blame those deaths on hamas.

Oh, I beg to differ. The man of sin has been revealed... but no one will listen. The tribulation has been going on since Jesus... and has been getting worse and worse over time.

@@kevin8360 wrong

@@LonLo-fi7wc Dictionary! That's just in case we're just blurting out random words now. Sneeze... Porcupine... Chalk... Seriously, you'll have to provide a better defense of your argument, than "wrong" if you expect anyone to ever take you seriously.

@@kevin8360 The man of sin has not been revealed , you have no understanding that scripture , makes it clear it says he reveals himself when he goes into the temple and declares he is God after he has risen from the dead and is indwelt by apollyon Then he kills the 2 witnesses , That is why no one will listen whatever you think you know is not aligned with Scripture

@@LonLo-fi7wc You’re close! So close! The man of sin does claim to be God… and did rise from the dead. Do you know of a man that people say was raised from the dead and claims to be God? I certainly do.

The church fathers who were alive say that you are 100 incorrect in your assumptions.

You make assumptions without facts. Interesting how you use fact with your narrative thrown in there for the loss.

Rome is literally the most clear and obvious answer for what the intended authors would have been writing about to their intended audience. It’s western fantasy making otherwise. Please check out this episode on apocalyptic literature. Heiser is featured and his words will ring for youru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2nlveEHVP6I.htmlsi=XFfYXZ6KpuZfidPT

Do your ears hear the words coming out of your mouth?

@@akowned1 No because I typed these. What’s your problem with my words?

@@lemnisgate8809 Everything you just typed about being out of context is exactly what Heiser, Mackey and Halstead are proving with their research, that the common Christian belief is out of context. That's what these series are all about, finding the proper context. They are doing a great job.

@@2drsdan I have nothing against that yet I’ve listened to all of Heiser work and he could not let go of his futurist interpretation nor see Israel for what it had become which is why his body of work ironically remains out of context.

​@@lemnisgate8809Please explain. Give some examples.

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@squaredcircle1111 it’s on the forehead and soon you won’t be able to buy or sell without one.

@squaredcircle1111 OMG! You haven’t taken the Mark have you?

WRONG !!! that has nothing to do with it , you need eyes to see and ears to hear

I hope you understand that to vote Democrat means that you agree with the murder of a child of God. How can a Christian condone abortion?