What is the TradWife Movement? | Return of the 50s Housewife? 

Lola you mean like trans who condemn others for not conforming to their standards?

Lola, that was what bothered me so much as well. I am fine with these women living this way, b/c they have a right to define womanhood for themselves. When I was married, I was a fairly "traditional" wife and enjoyed it, so I get where they're coming from. But to judge other women by saying things like she's a lesbian b/c she's...what, wearing pants and has a short haircut? Why is it necessary to publicly (since this is on a blog/ forum) denigrate other women that way?

Couldn't have said it better myself

her lesbian daughter was literally brought to tears from this woman's homophobia...

Lola She’s clearly hurting her daughter.

And I have never seen Fascinating Womanhood use #TradWives - there is so much more to FW than is shown here x

It's funny I'm doing screenwriting at uni & currently working on writing the documentary unit & so this really jumped out at me. It's just a day in the life of a woman who has her own ideas about living traditionally.

Helps me do better in my assignments!

Took the words right out of my mouth...fascinating topic, poor execution

Thank you I just wrote the same thing. Very very weird bunch of nothing.... Kinda just made one old mom look like a pushover for a few clips

Feminist projection.

I agree. Plus I don't think I would be so desperate to be married (to a man like this who seems to want a submissive wife) that I would want to live this kind of life. It seems degrading and she seems shallow in her interests and attitudes.

I agree … but men lack so much including the loyalty to back a woman whose backing him… all it takes is just for him to change his mind bc you knew a little to much

@@Kharmatos13 she’s right, cope

I couldn’t agree more!!

Omg "I accept you" you're just wrong though. I get so mad that people unload their crap onto the LGBT community without thinking about how they minimise & denigrate them.

Ha the best man for the job is a woman LOL

amadcarrot I felt the same way ☹️

@Red October+ No, it is not a mistake.

She wasn’t born that way, she changed her spirit, temptation comes to us all, But we don’t have to except it.( There is the God of heaven or satan which spirit have you chosen?

Wow good point

You need to pay attention to the video. It's these women who actually put down every other woman of a different lifestyle. It's pathetic actually. I guess deep down they know that they ate unhappy and actually envy the women they try to put down.

@@wioi you’ve got it all wrong. That is such a black and white statement and you must know by now the world is full of shades of gray and brown one woman’s 18 minutes does not define her whole life and who she is.

How masculine...

Definitely Carmen Tell them ...

I don't get how some other men are made uncomfortable by a woman's competence. If a woman who's good at everything wants a relationship with me, there is only one logical emotional response: to be HONORED.

Yes, many absolutely are.

That's why the new book was written. Times have changed, and you can look feminine in any kind of clothes.

They left her because she's wrong in the way she thinks women should be

Also, if you really believe that she would appreciate a "you go girl" then you have not payed attention to the video

Jordie Madison I wouldn’t serve those sandwiches to my family looking like that and I work!

Single mom?

@@harrydamour7564 Who cares? It is about principles and chosen life values.

@@maxnix346 Exactly that's so disrespectful @Harry D'amour

@@maxnix346 and she has any?

Astute observation I think. This was actually a bit horrifying. It's either a complete misrepresentation of the woman & the movement as some have suggested, or this woman needs more Klonopin.

More like everybody around herself.

TRADITIONAL VALUES ARE NOT 'OUTDATED CONCEPTS' - FOR GOODNESS SAKE...THE ONLY REASON YOUNG PEOPLE SEE IT THAT WAY, IS B/C THEY HAVEN'T HAD STABLE HOME SITUATIONS WHERE BOTH PARENTS ARE CONTRIBUTING IN THE MARRIAGE & THEIR 'HEAD' IS GOD...TRADITIONAL IS NOT A CERTAIN YEAR...IT IS A STATE OF BEING, ROOTED & GROUNDED IN THE KNOWLEDGE THAT GOD HAS BROUGHT TWO PEOPLE TOGETHER IN 'HOLY' MATRIMONY, TO BEAR CHILDREN & TO COMMIT TO THE WILL & PURPOSE THAT GOD DESIGNED FOR THEM...BUT, YOU WON'T UNDERSTAND THIS, UNLESS YOU BECOME A BELIEVER...THERE IS A SAFETY IN BOUNDARIES...AND THAT IS WHY GOD GAVE US MARRIAGE IN THE FIRST PLACE...WE LIVE IN A FALLEN WORLD, AND WHEN WE STEP OUTSIDE OF GOD'S PROTECTIVE BOUNDARIES, SUCH AS MARRIAGE, WE ARE OPEN TO THE DECEPTIONS & DESTRUCTIVE PURPOSES OF EVIL IN OUR WORLD...GOD INTENDED FOR US TO PASS DOWN TO OUR CHILDREN, HIS VALUES, SO THAT WE BECOME STABLE, SECURE & FUNCTIONING ADULTS IN A WORLD THAT, OFTENTIMES, IS HOSTILE...;)

Danielle Horeau very true!!

Layna8 first, not everyone believes in god or is religious. Second, you don’t have to have two parents to have a happy and stable environment to grow up in. Third, a couple don’t have to marry to be happy with each other and for things to work. It’s about choice, you do you. But don’t push your personal beliefs on to others in such an aggressive manner. Aka, in all caps

@@layna8924 you're a delusional fool. Not that I read your BS because obviously you didn't learn how to write properly in the first place.

oh Mary ... Bravo. Welllllll said if I do say so myself. Succinctly dead on.

I don't like to comment a lot, but I just had to say, PREFECT 👏

Civil Panda demeaning yourself in this way actually starts out with unhappiness. Only an unhappy, insecure person would act like this. And of course it does lead to more unhappiness.

LMAO!

literally can NOT stop laughing

Sad but true for anyone who does that to themselves.

Living this lifestyle would lead me to quite a few more klonopine than that with my rum and coke!

Jettsetgirl G 😂😂😂😂

Scary, isn't it?

I never understand how they are supposed to support "traditional masculinity" in men by making them live in midst of pink floral and lace frilled throws and all this childish junk... Generally, I don´t like people wrapping whole their life around their sexual fantasies + trying to make everyone around to follow it, including her kids, that is just sick.

Liz S Yes! I couldn’t put my finger on it.

yeah.

Your job is support a man and have his children that's all. You should have given being traditional a try looks like you have several kids to a couple of baby daddies and revolving door of men in and out of your kids lives.

That’s a real man right there lol. Not this weak garbage who would let their wives live like this for them 🥺

"As a man", you should take note that she is an author(!), a great manager, a mother and someone who is emersed in her community. She is more or less free to do with her time as she pleases (the mechanization of housework is all but complete, so long hours of labouring over the washing board are history). You should probably consider what the vast majority of women actually do for a living thanks to feminism: boring, soul-destroying tripe. Do you consider standing in a factory doing a repetitive task, or filling forms in a depressing office, to be "fulfilling your potential? If you can manage your time and have the drive, you will find that the only thing ruining your potential is working a crushing job to pay your bills. Simone De Beauvoir lamented about women's inability to transcend their social roles as "men have the potential to do"... but ask the vast majority of men about their potential for transcendence, and they'll tell you they got bills to pay. 2.2 million single mother in the UK that have to work 40+ hour shifts...and guess who does the housework? Go figure.

I haven't heard of this movement/organization before this vid. In my experience as a housewife, we are pretty much left to our own devices and have most of the "control" in the house. We manage the purchasing, cooking, laundry, cleaning, schooling/homework, entertaining, and many of us also run the household finances. Trying to micromanage a housewife would be a full time job! 😉

@@flipphone582 - May I ask, how long have you been married? And does "controlling" the home cause any resentment in your husband? I used to be a follower of Fascinating Womanhood, but I feel it is too "cookie cutter" and every household is different. Men are not all the same or think the same or respond the same. The Fascinating Womanhood philosophy could only work if all men had the same personalities. Some men are great at organizing the home... some aren't so great at it and need the assistance of their wives. Fascinating womanhood teaches that it is a bad thing for a woman to run the household and that doing so causes resentment in husbands. So I just wonder how modern marriages work today? I learned a lot from Fascinating Womanhood on how to be more feminine and understand men, but it would be cool to combine FW with a modern approach. How is your modern marriage? And is your husband overcome with resentment?

She is a miserable woman. Trust me i know

Sup

FW is about not trying to change the man but accepting him. FW encourages women to work on themselves, their character, and happiness. x

Jenny Nicholas she’s clearly not doing that though, she’s frustrated, under appreciated, disrespected, sidelined and full of unnecessary guilt over her toxic marriage

@@helenjohnson231 what??? They did not even get deep into her marriage or talk to her husband for any one to get that impression! That's very judgemental of you to say! You really don't know that honey!

Or you could divorce...

She's a degenerate who will suffer a terrifying end.

@@SumDumGai5 what?

SixPack Shakur (Rep5281) nobody cares what you think Troll-that poor young woman is paying the price for her mother’s delusion. She’s (the mother) almost as delusional as you

I don't. She's pretty lucky if you ask me. Y'all are a bunch of delicate little pansy's!😂😝 Seriously! 👍

I don't feel bad for her at all because she needs to live and love herself the way GOD CREATED her because GOD is pleased with her creation as a woman, not for some Peninsular testing experiments of people being indoctrinated as a LGBTQ CULT

There is a very active Fascinating Womanhood group on Facebook - you would probably get a lot more information from there. It is super friendly! x

Eh I don’t use Facebook, and honestly I’m not too fussed, but what I’m trying to say is... it was supposed to be a documentary about this fringe movement, and yet it seemed very unfocused and didn’t really give very much insight. I just think it could have been done better

@@rosaliecrawford1841 I don't think it showed much of anything - definitely feels that there was an agenda here. Make traditionalists look damaged and crazy x

Nice statement

Yes it may be true for some but mostly people are more complicated and varied.This is what the feminist movement was about. Prohibition ,prejudice ,intimidation is also the norm. Is that what is preferable?

You'll note women wearing REALLY nice dresses to do housework got the idea from Donna Reed and other TV shows. Lol

Sadly, these women are unimaginative and boring beyond belief. This is why their husbands are open to any extramarital excitement they may find to get them out of that velvet ditch in which their wives live.

No, this woman seems sad, and lonely & her husband doesn't seem that into her. I bet he's into being waited on hand & foot & that bought her a few more years.

There is no way a person could be happy while viewing themselves as inherently inferior to someone due to something they had no choice in (their gender). Feminity is so much more than hairspray, house keeping and pretending to a perfect wife

@@adog3147So true and FW does not teach women to be inferior. It teaches that men and woman are different not that one is better / worse. It teaches femininity from the heart - good character, self understanding, authenticity, and embracing your true self. It is empowering rather than restrictive. x

Jenny Nicholas 👏🏻👏🏻

That’s much more like it.

Finito!!

Hardly. Carpet-munchers are a genetic dead-end and her mother has every right to be upset.

@@ghostlybird327 and you're a bell end

@@gavinstarling8737 I'm at the right end of the bell curve, yes.

Some women need micro managing. It might sound sexist, but it's not. It's just a fact.

@@MrGeekGamer some men need micro managing. It might sound sexist, but it's not. It's just a fact.

@@ladydontekno on that we can agree.

Lol love this comment

Best comment.

More men should think like you 🤗

BETA!

@@hokumdog OMEGA

Right..... The main lady actually gives off Butch in a wig vibes physically.

@@girlfromsouth214 she probably is. Look at how she puts down her poor daughter for her sexuality. I think ol’ bouffant having, ‘girly-girl’ wanna-be mama may behave a secret or two about her own sexuality.

+Gillian Topaz -- Just passing through (i.e., reading as many of the posts that I can here in the comment section) and recognized your name and profile pic. from two or more videos over on Lacy's channel. Besides giving you a small leg up, so to speak, by way of a "thumbs up" I actually agree with you despite a number of comments that hit the target from mildly flabbergasted to irate women (one comment that caught my eye will be cited below). I'm very Right-leaning myself *_and_* one can say traditional for lack of a better way of describing it, but I am not exactly a *_"card-carrying"_* Trad Life dude. Gotta run. God bless! *_"I’m all for doing things to make your partner happy but if your happiness and security requires me to be a lesser version of myself, you aren’t the right man for me."_*

amen sister

Loll

There’s nothing to respect about a crazy old cat lady who was so unfit that she lost a custody battle

Trust me when i say this. The husband was not the issue here. He stood by her for years of mental illness and visits to mental hospitals. He is a great man and one that was not treated well at all.

That level of guilt tripping! "If we-if I had made better choices..." Like damn lady your daughter looks really happy, her home is clean and comfy, she's in a stable relationship. What more could you ask for? I hope her girlfriend gave the daughter a big hug after that.

Word!! And she straight projected her hatred for that into her poor daughter.

Exactly!

!!!!!!

Where did you get that from? She clearly asked him about 2 meals she already prepared. So clearly she picked them

Well he bought the groceries at least let him have a choice

Whatever forward means to you...

Katarina - bc certain ppl are afraid of other certain groups of ppl (not just racial groups) being equal.. not everyone wants an equal playing field & some ppl need to feel as though they're better than to make themselves feel better or more comfortable with their status in life. I read a quote a while back that really struck me & stayed with me; "Equality feels like Oppression to those accustomed to privilege"

helena barnett Please! They’re not afraid of other groups of people. Other people have different sets of values. It’s just different. Not wrong.

Iran 1979 is where they'd like to take us

Depends on which direction you’re standing

I agree, and no offense to Jenny, but something was definitely off in this video. As a follower of FW, I say Vive la difference to the traditional roles of men and women! I get nothing but respect from my husband and sons in my traditional role as wife and mother and I'm definitely not a doormat (and I actually work FT now that my kids have left the nest and worked pt during their high school years) You can certainly be attentive, empathetic and feminine without being a doormat! For example, you don't have to ask your man what they'd like each day for dinner, that would actually get on my hubby's nerves. Lol Rather, you can just be attentive and know what everyone's favorites are and try to work those in just because you know they enjoy that. It seems like the video was contrived or a bit extreme for sensationalism, because it never got to the essence of the original book. The book really was more about doing your work and serving your family as unto the Lord. IMO

@Witty Vixen 100 % agree with you

@Witty Vixen Agree. She is vile for the way she dismisses her daughter's orientation. I see a vapid, unhappy and silly female. Not sure her husband is too thrilled with her either.

@@JohnnyBGoode-xn9mo Definitely can understand this is someone's life, but you must agree that treating you daughter like that is disgusting. She's doing the exact opposite of good parenting,

Uuum clearly they had enough time and already had enough babies

How do you live as a housewife without a job and without a man? Where does money come from?

@@wioi wdym goofy. i said eventually i want to be a housewife 💀 like after getting married?

Maybe it makes her happy? Not hurting anyone...

Alex Reitz this channel films docs that way a lot. I think the intention is to make people with “unusual” lifestyles or beliefs seem more relatable. That being said, I am disappointed by how small scale this video is. I feel like it barely dips a toe into the movement and I want to know more.

I've looked up what these women believe and I find it reprehensible. It's not healthy for men or women for the wife to pretend to be a little girl.

Internalized misogyny doesn’t exist 🤣

@@samh4456 Internalised misogyny is a self hatred some women face due to believing that they are inherently inferior to men based on stereotypes they have internalised over their lives. This exists lmao, there is literally no argument against its existance

@@adog3147 Okay an what's it called when a male feminist shows self hatred because he's a male?

@@adog3147 honestly, I think gender roles are great and stereotypes as well. You always have people who are the outliers, but stereotypes in society are good. I love being a woman and embracing what comes with it. I can do what men cannot do, give birth. I don't think that the women you are probably talking about believe they are inferior. Men and women are not equal, we're not meant to be, but we are equally important and people forget that. I find it so crazy that so many women hate the gifts that we have been given. I don't want to be a man. Men have it so much worse in society then women do. I'm sure my husband would absolutely love to stay home with our children instead of working long hours, but he can't because I have the food. To me internalized misogyny is a made up term for people that don't understand that some people just like living life more traditionally. There's nothing wrong with it. There are so many people that are happy from it.

@@samh4456 it certainly does exist 😂😂😂

IS she really her daughter,? because look like to me her daughter don't love herself because she's TRYING to convince her mom she wants to live her life as a man and wants to convince her she was meant to be a man and that's a load of bullcrapp because GOD didn't make no mistake when her mom bore her as a baby girl and if I was her mom I won't accept that lifestyle NEVER ever and she can cry to the cows come home boo boo! The next step is for her to get out of my house with her lover who she's sobbing over because she can't make her mom go against her GODLY beliefs and goes against HER faith, which she had before her daughter was conceived and remember GOD don't make mistakes AN GOD can not LIE

@@sandraturner929 You're absolutely right. Jenny's daughter is not a mistake. God made her just as she is -- including the part where she's a woman who loves women.

@@sandraturner929 wtf are you even talking about? You're a fool. She's not a man nor does she want to be a man. She's a woman who loves a woman. Gtfoh

Stepford wives and they are sitting around acting like they are doing some great amazing work 😂😂😂😂😂

Me too!

Just don't tell your partner. Lol. He doesn't need to know. Let him do it if he's there. Makes him happy. Otherwise he'll be thinking, what does she need ME for? And that's from Steve Harvey, btw.

nightjar lolll 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

when I saw her husband, I couldn't help but laugh. he's the opposite of a manly man and she's putting him on this pedestal that he doesn't deserve to be on.

exactly!!

You know what i might.

❤️

How so?

@@SB-gt7nt I hope you're not asking seriously

I am a fan of this book to an extent, and I believe in embracing gender specific roles in marriage, BUT....this docu seemed a bit cringey to me personally. The book just had its moments, but not as often as this lol.

we weren't like this in the 90s wtf

I can recognize that these women are working very hard. I can't get behind the movement. But it's obvious they're passionate and hard working.

So exactly what is it that has been misrepresented? Most of us see women desperately trying to be something they aren’t in order to keep a man from walking out on her, leaving her alone in a world she’s apparently afraid to navigate on her own. It seems a false love affair. I’d rather have no love affair than 40 years of a lie. If that’s not what they teach, what do they teach? I knew a woman who behaved very much in this fashion. She took and the verbal abuse of her husband because it was the Christian thing to do. She built him up, made him feel a man, whatever that means. To the day she died of Lou Gehrig’s disease, she never let him know she had been in therapy just to deal with the pain he caused her. Letting him know wouldn’t have been the right thing for a wife to do. She wasn’t even dead a year before he started his new relationship with his now wife. Her life long love affair left empty handed in my opinion. She suffered in silence to please him, than died and he moved on like it was no big thing. You’ll likely say that isn’t the goal of such a movement. That women shouldn’t be abused. Well I think any human being living an inauthentic life is living for nothing. That’s a shallow pointless existence. Shoving yourself out of the way of your own life is pathetic. I realize love means putting the needs of your loved one first. I accept that. But living a lie should not be a requirement of love. This is repulsive. So what is the misrepresentation? I’m legitimately interested.

This is what FW is about behind the scenes... don't believe the facade.

Then make better decisions in your future.

Hopefull Sinner, Ha! Will do!

Yeah her husband should get her a gym membership.

@@jacindapeters2303 I mean her husband needs a gym memnership too.

They treat all of their members that way... supporters of FW are disposable.