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Ask any Australian what's the best engine for making a ton of power and most likely a Ford Barra will be mentioned most of the time. It is relatively unknown to the outside world, but Australians and New Zealanders know it very well. Its engineers knew it was going to outperform any competitor. What makes it such a beast?
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@madmick3794
@madmick3794 2 года назад
My dad pulled 1,430,000km out of his Barra before the piston rings started to leak. A hone, some new rings and bearings and some basic maintenance has now made it my little brothers car. Now it spends its days travelling farm to farm so my brother can sheer sheep all over the outback.
@davo7512
@davo7512 2 года назад
Still a pup
@darianistead2239
@darianistead2239 2 года назад
How does an Aussie share sheep? "After you mate"
@andymills2985
@andymills2985 2 месяца назад
I'm not surprised
@EyePatchGuy88
@EyePatchGuy88 Месяц назад
​@@darianistead2239 How does a Kiwi shear sheep? "I'm not sharing it with anyone."
@darianistead2239
@darianistead2239 Месяц назад
@@EyePatchGuy88 that's not funny bro
@visekual6248
@visekual6248 2 года назад
Buy, buy, buy, before it gets too expensive, as soon as the 2JZ hype starts to dissipate, the price of these engines will skyrocket
@izzy031096
@izzy031096 2 года назад
2jz prices still have a way to go. Grab an Aristo as soon as possible!
@OM617a
@OM617a 2 года назад
@@izzy031096 I think so too, with the way new cars are headed. Imo the 1990's produced the best cars the world will ever see, never to be repeated. The prices will only go one way.
@elijahmcculloch7189
@elijahmcculloch7189 2 года назад
I have 3
@OM617a
@OM617a 2 года назад
@@elijahmcculloch7189 That's cool, 3 Aristos? I have 1 Aristo and a couple of old Mercedes. I hope I can keep them all going long enough to avoid having to drive anything they are producing now.
@darianistead2239
@darianistead2239 2 года назад
You can get them from pick a part for a couple hundred buck's, they're common and dirt cheap.
@aussiebloke609
@aussiebloke609 2 года назад
Great synopsis! They're a sweet engine straight from the factory, but little appreciated (and little understood) elsewhere in the world. Historically, Europe liked their small cars with 4-cylinder engines for their narrow, twisty roads and high fuel prices..Americans preferred their V8s because of their cheap fuel prices and long, straight highways...and Australians had long distances to cover on poor roads, so needed something more efficient than a V8, but more robust and torquey than a 4-pot. And so we stuck with the venerable inline 6 as the best compromise.
@KenOath1234
@KenOath1234 2 года назад
shhhh keep it quiet - the last thing we need is the rest of the world buying them up!
@frankrenda2519
@frankrenda2519 2 года назад
i worked at ford geelong there just a glorified crossflow
@aussiebloke609
@aussiebloke609 2 года назад
@@frankrenda2519 b The crossflow traces its design roots back to the Thriftpower 6. And all those incremental changes over the decades have turned it in a pretty stout engine. :-)
@johnrebus1641
@johnrebus1641 2 года назад
@@frankrenda2519 Yes but about 3 more generations along , just like '39 Ford is just a glorified.model T. It must be remembered that the Crossflow was an excellent engine - a huge improvement over the 1959 American design it replaced. Big Cleveland style valves & rockers gear in place of the puny Y block relics. Once the old 1938 Stromberg was ditched for a proper Weber carburettor t'was even better. As a Holden freak I have only 1 problem with the Barra - its too tall to fit in my VT. Might have to borrow an RB30 out of a parts car
@frankrenda2519
@frankrenda2519 2 года назад
@@johnrebus1641 i would go v6 out of the vt great engine kenny duttweiler was making 1500 hp out of those things over 30 years ago.the block on the v6 is heaps stronger than the barra
@jarrynsmith
@jarrynsmith 2 года назад
Barras are awesome, with a tune it will make close too 500hp with stock parts and the LPG block shares the same internal parts as the XR6T making it very cost effective here (valve springs and head studs and oiling gear mods as you said will get 700hp without pushing it to hard and will last years like that with the right tune )
@GarageSupra
@GarageSupra 2 года назад
if you have a bf or earlier barra you need valve springs for over 400hp
@ThomasFG
@ThomasFG 2 года назад
Incorrect about the LPG blocks sharing the same internal parts. The earlier LPG models did, however when the EcoLpi came to market, they essentially had no different internals to the N/A counterpart. Minus the obvious piston top differences, etc But the fundamentals were N/A derived 🙂
@Cheato
@Cheato 2 года назад
@@ThomasFG correct, I forgot to mention the Ecolpi though people usually don't count them in with the older green tops 12:1 compression and shit rods and valves etc
@Cheato
@Cheato 2 года назад
But pre FG MKII or 2010 (forgot) all green tops basically had turbo internals just higher comp pistons The 3r23 rods thrown into the F6 engine and post-06/06 turbo engines were derived from the egas engine
@ThomasFG
@ThomasFG 2 года назад
@@Cheato Funny that isn't it 🤣🤣 Ford just went "f**k it, lets just toss turbo rods in a gas motor" haha ! I mean credit where it's deserved, the EcoLPi's were a brilliant engine (volumetric efficiency, thermal efficiency, etc). Ford got LP injection done properly compared to lets say.... GM The N/A's are ok for a daily commute, you can put boost through'em, but i wouldn't bother. Set of 3.27 gears & a decent tune will result in more than ample power for daily situations. The turbo can handle 2.73 gears, the N/A & lpg variants have such capped acceleration due to them s**t gears. The only FG falcon that actually got final drives done correctly was the EcoBoost and it's 3.27 rear end.
@elliotcutliff7779
@elliotcutliff7779 2 года назад
The first time I found out about this engine was in Gran Turismo 4, because I loved the FPV F6 Typhoon. That car was brilliant.
@SolaricAngel116
@SolaricAngel116 2 года назад
I see you're a person of culture.
@Mannyxz
@Mannyxz 2 года назад
Legendary 6 cylinder engines: the German N/S54/55, the Japanese JZ, RB and finally the Australian Barra
@rotn50
@rotn50 2 года назад
RB
@Mannyxz
@Mannyxz 2 года назад
@@rotn50 Oh I forgot let me edit lol
@rotn50
@rotn50 2 года назад
@@Mannyxz all good buddy.
@Neojhun
@Neojhun 2 года назад
Jaguar XK engine being their grand father.
@harrycraft3359
@harrycraft3359 2 года назад
Dont forget fords 300 six from th us
@hugejohnson5011
@hugejohnson5011 2 года назад
More crankshaft bearing area, and a natural balance are attributes of a straight six. Hence the use of the configuration for heavy duty Diesel engines. I've always liked my straight sixes.
@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13
@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13 2 года назад
As a born and bred Victorian, with a Falcon Ute (the BEST car I've ever owned. It will never be for sale) in the car port... This episode brings a tear to my eye. For some reasons of pride, and some reasons of sorrow. Straya 🇦🇺💪
@lordjaashin
@lordjaashin 2 года назад
do you come from the land down under?
@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13
@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13 2 года назад
@@lordjaashin Where the women glow and the men plunder... I can hear the thunder. Wait... I just heard actual thunder. Weirdly there's a thunderstorm rolling by right now in Central Victoria and we don't get that many down here. That's bizarre. We're all prepared for some pretty gnarly flooding this year, it's usually fires that destroy everything this time of year. That and giant spiders attacking us.
@totalrecone
@totalrecone 2 года назад
@@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13 In Queensland it's "Where women blow and men chunder" ;)
@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13
@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13 2 года назад
@@totalrecone Ha!... Well they certainly do that. Hopefully it's not a long way to the shop if they want a sausage roll. Okay I'll stop now. 🙄
@jamesmedina2062
@jamesmedina2062 2 года назад
@@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13 venemous spiders? How big?
@MRDOOMBOY12345
@MRDOOMBOY12345 2 года назад
I have a 195kw (260hp) NA Barra in my car and they just dont die, such a good engine for power and reliability.
@clipsonic4415
@clipsonic4415 2 года назад
The secret is the size 4 liter for 260hp is not a lot the engine dont have stress with 65hp per liter 👍
@derekgardin1512
@derekgardin1512 2 года назад
@@clipsonic4415 just like the Nissan VQ40 although I'd take a Barra anyday if they were available here
@jamesmedina2062
@jamesmedina2062 2 года назад
people underestimate the benefit a bed plate or beefy oil pan will do for bottom end. The K series Honda use the bed plate/windage tray but Barra use thick oil pan and if oil pan is reinforced and thick then it will make the engine quieter too. I wonder what kind of economy they get?
@rodneymcgiveron
@rodneymcgiveron 2 года назад
@@jamesmedina2062 I have a gorgeous lightning strike silver 2008 FG XR6 with the 195 Barra and the ZF 6 speed sequential sports shift transmission ..It's a weapon despite not being the turbo .. On a recent 200 mile (320 kilometres) day trip I re set the trip meter , drove the car normally (deliberately) and at 9.30 pm that night when I parked it back home it was showing me 8.0 l/100 km which I believe is in excess of 34 mpg ..Pretty happy with that for a 3984 cc (250 c.i. ) engine ...
@jamesmedina2062
@jamesmedina2062 2 года назад
@@rodneymcgiveron that is dramatically superior economy isnt it?? I drove most recently a V6 Mazda with VVT put together by ford and in the 3.0L displacement pulling a fairly lightweight wagon 2004 flavor and the fuel econ was in mid 20's on highway. I am trying to remember exactly. I want to say it was 21mpg city and 24 highway or it was 24city 27 highway. Either way if you got mid 30's that is almost as good as what I get in my 1.5t Honda now. What speed? I get around 40mph highway at 70mph or like 105 kph.
@rodneymcgiveron
@rodneymcgiveron 2 года назад
A little known fact for non Australians ...The previous Aussie inline six to the Barra was the Intech/VCT SOHC also 3984 cc ...Bottom end nearly exactly the same hence the inherent and legendary strength and reliability ..The Intech is a sweet engine also and was sorted out pretty well by the time the EB Falcon appeared in the early 1990's .. Same bullet proof life expectancy and done right has been known to be capable of well in excess of 1000 hp ..Lots of them around in N/A form . They were mot available from the factory as a turbo..Check them out too ..They'll surprise you also .
@MRMOPARMAN0426
@MRMOPARMAN0426 9 месяцев назад
The SOHC wasnt named intech till AU. and i can assure you, it took till the AU to work out the majority of the problems with the SOHC.
@bigcazza5260
@bigcazza5260 3 месяца назад
bluetooth me a new headgasket, au wioth 4480s and redback sounds the best, barra cant touch it, stuff the barra, stuff the dirty thirty, NAUGHTY FORTY MATE@@MRMOPARMAN0426
@nismo2070
@nismo2070 2 года назад
Great video! I have only seen a Barra once in my life. Installed in a Ford F100 pickup at a show in Missouri seven or eight years ago. It was a drift monster! Dude was going around a little oval that was there and it sounded soooo good as he drove it sideways around the track a few times.
@seanbayley7452
@seanbayley7452 Год назад
U can import them into the states fairly cheaply still m8
@Blake-de2nf
@Blake-de2nf 2 года назад
I was always a Holden man growing up but I can appreciate the barra so much so that I am on my second falcon now, an FG-X XR6 which is by far the best car I’ve ever owned!
@lukaskumsta6639
@lukaskumsta6639 2 года назад
It reminds me that Opel's straight-six engine (NE30C) in Omega or Senator. It is similar engine to Barra, but there are not so many tunners around that engine and not many people even know about that engine.
@e46m54nissansr20937
@e46m54nissansr20937 2 года назад
I sure didnt know thanks
@shlomoshekelberg7286
@shlomoshekelberg7286 2 года назад
I don’t know much about them, but I saw an Irmscher tuned 4.0 on the web and looked into them. Pretty impressive N/A six especially for it’s era
@pashakdescilly7517
@pashakdescilly7517 2 года назад
Is that a 3 litre dohc 4 valve six, the one which formed the basis for the Lotus Carlton 3.6 turbo car?
@jarrynsmith
@jarrynsmith 2 года назад
@@pashakdescilly7517 same engine family
@e46m54nissansr20937
@e46m54nissansr20937 2 года назад
Visio Ive watched your growth since the very beginning, your English has improved dramatically over the years so has the content. Probably the best channel for engine geeks.
@dmax9946
@dmax9946 2 года назад
I have seen your videos mention these engines once or twice but I never thought I would see a dedicated video on them. Also the barra was found in the last generation of Fairlanes (a luxury version of the falcon) and G6's (the replacement for the fairlane model) I'm really glad the international car scene is seeing more Australian products positively. Thank you visioracer
@cyclonicleo
@cyclonicleo 2 года назад
Great to see you cover the Barra, Visio! It really is a remarkable engine and a real testament to the Ford engineers refining the design over the decades.
@joytech23
@joytech23 2 года назад
A little error, the XR6 Sprint (last model made) made a base 436HP and 574NM, but has an overboost function that temporarily incrases output to 496HP and 650NM of torque if conditions permit. I guess the sprint name has some merit lol.
@alexanderstevens2442
@alexanderstevens2442 2 года назад
Yeah it can use that boost for something like 10 seconds
@joytech23
@joytech23 2 года назад
​@@alexanderstevens2442 The 10s timer resets after every gear change as long as temperatures remain in Ford's tolerance.
@clubsport9334
@clubsport9334 2 года назад
Love your work Visio. Awewome video on a great piece of Aussie engineering. 💪🇦🇺
@Matt-np6nq
@Matt-np6nq 2 года назад
Been waiting for this for a long time, what an insane engine!
@izzy031096
@izzy031096 2 года назад
Great video as always Mr Visio 👌🇳🇿
@edu4818
@edu4818 2 года назад
wow this last engine videos are great man ! love your content is sooo intresting ;) !
@ThunderBassistJay
@ThunderBassistJay 2 года назад
Getting better and better! Big like! 👍
@shadydisco
@shadydisco 2 года назад
Love seeing you cover this uniquely AUS/NZ engine! I run one for the few Alpina B5s in NZ and have (virtually) no fear of the XR8 Fords and HSV Holdens that are common here. Have learnt the hard way to treat Barra powered XR6 Fords with a bit more caution though!!! There have been some really cool Aussie Fords over the years - a real shame there won't be more going forward.
@sebatianalvarado7171
@sebatianalvarado7171 2 года назад
straight 6s are great .. off subject but my 7mgte toyota supra straight 6 (was 400kw) but with turbo turned down (5boost settings , methonol injection launch control ) car on lowest setting .. be abt 340hp .. used to piss all over most standsrd aussie v8s of there day .. easily , mid ninties ..till 2000s
@seanbayley7452
@seanbayley7452 Год назад
Fucken aye my Kiwi brother the death of ford and Holden in Oz is just a tragedy for us here in Oz and even U guys over the ditch, I believe both makers treated ur car market exactly the same as the Aussie market as they knew we like the same shit
@shadydisco
@shadydisco Год назад
@@seanbayley7452 definitely! I've actually been in Oz the last couple of weeks. Loved seeing how many classics still get used as dailys! There's a lot of Aussie classics here, but most now have weekend status
@leshtshow
@leshtshow 2 года назад
Awesome video man, so cool to see home bred motors being talked about by people in other countrys it really does bring a smile to my face, I have a few recommendations for a few other aussie ford sixes that you could talk about, One is the Ford Intech and the other is the Ford crossflow six, both are bloody good motors the intechs (like barras) are also known for their ridiculous reliablility and being realllyyyy hard to kill, and the crossflow six, well that amazing motor take a massive part in the barras heritage because as it says in the name, "crossflow" introduced crossflow heads which were later on used in every ford vehicle. Also the first falcon six to introduce alloy heads too :) Myself i have an 84 Xe falcon ute with a 200 crossflow and i just love the motors so much for being robust, simple and sounding great and my mate has had multiple Au falcons for skid pigs and the cars mightve been wrecked but the motors still run beautiful and and never miss a beat.
@1toonhead
@1toonhead 2 года назад
OMG, you did one my request. I have one of these engines in my car too. Done over half a millions kilometres and still going well.
@mattyweendrift2815
@mattyweendrift2815 2 года назад
Thanks for the feature guys 🤙
@NestorFarnum
@NestorFarnum 2 года назад
I've always had a wet dream of putting a Barra engine in a 2002 Mustang GT and independent rear suspension. I would call it the supra mustang.
@Turtletoise
@Turtletoise 2 года назад
The Toyota Mustang? Ford Supra?
@liamholcroft7212
@liamholcroft7212 2 года назад
Why the only thing it would have in common with the supra is 6 cylinders?
@marcbusby3625
@marcbusby3625 2 года назад
A suprustang?
@gavinspooner3271
@gavinspooner3271 2 года назад
Adam lz has a gt350 with a barra swap and sequential gearbox on RU-vid
@backyardrestorations
@backyardrestorations 2 года назад
Superstang
@paulsto6516
@paulsto6516 2 года назад
Nicely done!
@sombra6153
@sombra6153 2 года назад
Great video. I had heard reference to the Barra, but didn’t know much about them, particularly their roots being in the ole Ford small inline.
@Jay_Speed
@Jay_Speed 2 года назад
I have a XB and a EB2 both with six, great engines. Years ago my father had a Fairlaine 500 with a six, he pulled loaded 40 ton trucks with in Belgium. My grandfather had a Customline from 1951 with six, it did more than 250.000 km without problems.
@jamesgovett2501
@jamesgovett2501 2 года назад
The XB in Australia had the last of the pushrod 200 or 250 ci sixes the following model XC had the first of the cast iron headed crossflow, not sure what you are talking about the Fairlane 500 with a six in Belgium? Pulling a 40 ton load ? Anyway the Australian Ford Fairlanes depending on the model let’s say a ZF for instance you could get a base model with the 250 six with an auto or a 3 speed column charge manual but the sixes were not in the 500 series they were badged as a Fairlane Custom, and as for a six cylinder 1951 Ford Customline, Australia only got the 239 ci sidevalve Ford V8 no sixes were ever offered here
@Jay_Speed
@Jay_Speed 2 года назад
@@jamesgovett2501 Yes that Fairlane only got a six in it and was badged 500. In 1991 I had a XC and that was like you tell a cross-flow. The XB had in his last 1000km a burnt exhaust valve on the first cylinder but still was driving nicely. The engine is out now for years waiting for an overhaul. It was and is a great car that XB Fairmont Wagon automatic from 1975.
@aussieausdeutschland4245
@aussieausdeutschland4245 5 месяцев назад
​@jamesgovett2501 no the 1987 XF was the last push rod six with the 4.1ltr crossflow
@Jay_Speed
@Jay_Speed 5 месяцев назад
The cars of my father and grandfather that was in Belgium. I lived for a while in Australia, now in France but still have those cars in Australia in my garage, together with a Nissan Patrol MK 2,8L six.
@lincoln579
@lincoln579 2 года назад
Yay I’ve been waiting for you to do a vid of the barra
@marsgal42
@marsgal42 2 года назад
On a trip to New Zealand in 2010 my rental car was an FG Falcon XR6. That thing was a missile. Yes, it had a Barra under the hood. I was planning a trip to Australia in 2020 and had looked in to bringing something interesting home with me, like a proper Aussie ute. Grey imports to the Great White North must be 15 years old, so that kiwi Falcon will have to wait a few more years...
@TacoBurrit0
@TacoBurrit0 2 года назад
You could get a BF Falcon. its the model just before the FG so you get the 6 speed auto and same barra but with a different body and improvements over the BA before it
@xbgtfella
@xbgtfella 2 года назад
Good luck finding one when the time comes. The car are being scrapped by the thousands, mostly for the running gear as the motors are a hot ticket for export all over the globe. Whole container lots of barras heading out of Australia all the time.
@sidewayssil5348
@sidewayssil5348 2 года назад
@@xbgtfella you’re deadon mate since i bought my first barra for my Au a year ago to now the secondhand market has pretty much doubled in price as a result of all the exports, its kinda crazy
@darianistead2239
@darianistead2239 2 года назад
@@xbgtfella bang on mate. Last month I had to go pick up parts I ordered from the states, they unloaded the container and as soon as it was empty they were loading in Barra's to send back. They also had a couple stat write offs to load in another container, A VE SS ute and a wagon, soon to be "chevy SS" badged and vinned no doubt.
@mitchellbaker6528
@mitchellbaker6528 2 года назад
You'd be able to get a BF2 (post 06/06 build same interbals as the FG) with the 15 year limit.
@ajctrading
@ajctrading 2 года назад
Got an eco Lpi , FG sedan. Stock LPG gas, liquid fuel injection. 12.7:1 compression NA. More power than the petrol NA version. Gets 10-11 litres per 100 km on a trip at half the price of petrol. One of the best cars Australia ever made. But thanks to the current Australian government no cars made here anymore. Sad sad sad.
@JosephcallsmeNolan
@JosephcallsmeNolan 2 года назад
Got an lpg wagon too.. I'm gonna try and keep it till it dies or I can't get parts.. Or no lpg stations... What Australians have lost, they don't realise..
@barryduff5058
@barryduff5058 2 года назад
Half the price of Petrol??? Not if you live in Western Victoria... $1.10c /litre for LPG & local town hasn't had any for 5 years. Partner has the inferior carburettor eco LPG & has to travel 45km each way to fill up. She drives a company camry most days once she gets to work, so that'll be her next wheels. Sad though, as that BF has hauled huge trailers of heavy furniture when we were shifting from Geelong. Knowing how robust the bottom end is I'd love to keep it as a project
@advanceaustralia3321
@advanceaustralia3321 2 года назад
Maybe you are too young to know, but in the 80s the Labor plan by Button phased out import duties on foreign cars. Nothing to do with the current Govt.
@aaronburratwood.6957
@aaronburratwood.6957 2 года назад
This is the engine I’d love for my ‘84 t-top Mustang. I’ve got a 347 stroker with a built tremec T5 to go on it as it’s a project car but I’d trade it for a Barra in a second. I live it the US, I’ve never seen one in person.
@xbgtfella
@xbgtfella 2 года назад
I got a few if u can organise freight
@rotn50
@rotn50 2 года назад
Big perm garage youtube is putting a barra in his foxbody or gt stang in the us.
@darianistead2239
@darianistead2239 2 года назад
Container loads are heading your way mate, seen them being loaded.
@rodneymcgiveron
@rodneymcgiveron 2 года назад
Some N/A's reasonably low kms are selling for only $200 ... The cost of getting them to the U.S. and getting upgrade parts to turbo them though is pretty high .. I'm surprised that someone hasn't made a big business of it yet though because once you sample a Barra it's no going back .. That said the father of the Barra is the amazing SOHC Intech /VCT .. I'm also surprised that as they date back to 1988 the whole car from the EA Falcon to the late EL's from 1997 can be imported to the USA without the import tax what is essentially the Barra . Due to the 25 year rule in America the latest model Falcon in 2022 you can bring in without paying a fortune of tax is a 1997 model . In The bottom end/block of the Intech and the Barra are pretty much identical ..The Barra top end is where all the action happened ...Many Intech/VCT SOHC 's have seen 800,000 to a million kilometres with minimal repairs and they can be upgraded for huge power due to the incredible blocks ....
@mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311
@mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311 10 месяцев назад
Another great video about more cool engines ❤ Your English is coming on in leaps and bounds! One or two small mistakes do make me smile - like in this video "dirty cheap to produce". I say it with love because your English is a lot better than my Czech, but the idiom you needed there was "dirt cheap"🥰🤭❤
@danielmolero4287
@danielmolero4287 2 года назад
I'm definitely a big fan of the Barra, it's like the successor of the 300 i6
@dewarkhodern9990
@dewarkhodern9990 2 года назад
👍
@josephcowen9771
@josephcowen9771 2 года назад
It is the successor of the 200 Ci and 250 ci ford motors from the 1960s ! The 144, 170, 188, 200 and 250 are small block ford six's the 240 and 300 are big block ford six's . The Aussie 250 six started in our country in the 1970,s and the Barra is the last incarnation of it, in the 1980s we redesigned the old 250 and in effect put a Cleveland V8 type canted valve heads to on it first in cast iron then alloy, mid 80s we put fuel injectjon on it then in late 80s a hemi head with single over head cam like the 427 cammer ford V8 then 2000s came the double overhead cam vvti motor then the turbo was added, but it was making waves as the six was now faster than the the new ford double over head cam 5.0 in the 2017 Ford Falcon.
@alexjohnward
@alexjohnward 2 года назад
The LPG may have quoted the lowest power figure, but often makes a better donor motor, they had extra strong conrods in them from the factory, so that they didn't get warranty claims when the gas system backfired on cold mornings!
@rossbrumby1957
@rossbrumby1957 2 года назад
The lpg engines have stronger rods because they are higher compression to suit dedicated lpg. Only dual fuel cars backfire on starting and only when you open the throttle while cranking- which you're not meant to do!
@alexjohnward
@alexjohnward 2 года назад
@@rossbrumby1957 they don't need stronger conrods for marginally higher compression, they can backfire though, not very often, but enough to cause a hassle for Ford to avoid dealing with!
@Jukeseyvaeau
@Jukeseyvaeau 2 года назад
I own a BF Falcon xr6 turbo manual and this video just made me love it even more
@AlexKokkinarasMusic
@AlexKokkinarasMusic 2 года назад
Awesome video bro! Been watching your stuff here in Australia for over 6 years now and honestly have been waiting for this video, such a shame the world took such a long time to find out about it... Was a gem of an engine with also a gem of cars (falcons & territories) the Americans would have potentially had them aswell making the actually run of the vehicle alot longer, funny to know one of the top top bosses, May have even been the top man himself at the time, got to go for a test drive in America at the secret grounds passenger of course.. got in the base model territory (non turbo Barra rwd 4 SPD automatic, and a Ghia(top of the range) turbo AWD 6 speed ZF automatic. And the boss replied to his team in the car.. "this is the best car we make" @ViseoRacer loved every minute of that video, well done ✅👌🏻
@steely1neverwane
@steely1neverwane 2 года назад
I had a 06 territory Ghia turbo daily driver with 112,000km a few years ago and it was one of the worse cars I've ever owned. It was a rust bucket (like all territories) ,the gearbox was slow and clunky (yes ZF), diff bushes always flogging out and knocking, front ball joints regularly flogging out, tailgate was cheap and flimsy,, it felt like it was put together by monkeys. I know daily drive a 07 futura wagon n/a 145,000kms and it's a fantastic car, feels like it came from a completely different manufacturer.
@jasonmcmillan4373
@jasonmcmillan4373 2 года назад
I have one, running about 500hp. Thanks for this video from Oz. :)
@riskybisness
@riskybisness 2 года назад
nice video mate, from NZ
@jacqeusmouton4005
@jacqeusmouton4005 2 года назад
Their popularity is growing in South Africa. A mate of mine dropped one into a '59 Ford Zephyr, running a full tube frame with BMW E46 front suspension and truck arm rear. Wants to autocross, drag and cruise in it...
@simonf8902
@simonf8902 2 года назад
One of the best 6 cylinder engines in the world. And they can do over 600,000km with just normal service. BMW eat your heart out.
@GrumsPlace
@GrumsPlace 2 года назад
Got in to a taxi in rockhampton that had 890,000 K on it the owner driver said keep em warm n running and will get over a million Ks from it.
@lauchlanstill6677
@lauchlanstill6677 2 года назад
@@GrumsPlace saw a few ex taxi barras with 900,000 on Facebook mp
@TheKnobCalledTone.
@TheKnobCalledTone. 2 года назад
600k? and the rest... just make sure you replace the trans fluid on a regular basis and a BA-FGX should last forever. "sealed for life" transmission my arse...
@phalanx3803
@phalanx3803 2 года назад
the only other petrol i6 i can think of that can last that long is the old Toyota F engine.
@JohnnyAFG81
@JohnnyAFG81 2 года назад
I never understood why Ford of America never brought to the states or Canada.
@alexstromberg7696
@alexstromberg7696 2 года назад
Because it would beat the V8.
@joshuadebideen22
@joshuadebideen22 2 года назад
They brought them to South Africa though, in the Ford Territory Ghia and TX(182 and 190)and ST(Turbo 245)
@Turtletoise
@Turtletoise 2 года назад
@@alexstromberg7696 Even with a turbo, it was down on power compared to the V8.
@alexstromberg7696
@alexstromberg7696 2 года назад
@@Turtletoise a simple re flash would make more power
@Turtletoise
@Turtletoise 2 года назад
@@alexstromberg7696 It wouldn’t be stock and it would still probably make less power.
@iAMxplosiff
@iAMxplosiff 2 года назад
I had an XR6 Turbo ute a few years ago. After an exhaust, injectors and a 'safe' tune at around 290rwkw - after about a couple months of fun the oil pump carked it. I was in 3rd gear accellerating to 100km/h and it let go when I up-shifted. Oil pump is a must on these engines before any other work is done.. Also, good tyres. I had an aluminium trayback and it hooked and it didn't spin even in the wet..
@HighhScore
@HighhScore 2 года назад
I love the inline six platform. Im predicting it will be popular again the mainstream performance segment.
@hocek11
@hocek11 2 года назад
It's awesome but in my opinion expensive outside of Australia and New Zealand. There is a reason why each continent has its own enthusiast power plants. So if you don't count every penny and want something unique it a solid choice but if you do I think it's better stick to something local.
@Levi-qb2uf
@Levi-qb2uf 2 года назад
Is just as expensive trying to buy a decent one right now in Australia than it was to import one overseas a couple years ago.
@lauchlanstill6677
@lauchlanstill6677 2 года назад
@@Levi-qb2uf going up in price a little bit
@TheKnobCalledTone.
@TheKnobCalledTone. 2 года назад
Good point... the last thing Australian sneed is for the Barra to skyrocket in price because they're all being shipped to the USA lol
@pablojones5613
@pablojones5613 2 года назад
These are an amazing engine. I used to drive an LPG only version I'm a 1 tonne ute for work. Smooth, and amazingly quick in standard trim.
@railtrolley
@railtrolley 2 года назад
That's what I have: FG mk2 ecolpi. My daily driver and delivery vehicle. Turned over 600 000km yesterday.
@cipher375
@cipher375 2 года назад
jst gained a sub, ur content is good👊🔥
@waydegod
@waydegod 2 года назад
My 2004 ba xr6t, stock besides aftermarket exhaust is awesome I love it . It's got 370000ks on the body and running gear and still going strong.
@HazeyAuto
@HazeyAuto 2 года назад
Now do a video on the legendary AU Falcon, with the lesser known but more infamous INTECH SOHC 4.0.
@greyscott5734
@greyscott5734 2 года назад
The most defining feature I think is that it's very easy driving because the torque from idle is so high. It's also pretty efficient under load, I remember a local magazine compared a lower powered Barra falcon against the commodore with it's direct injected 3.6, and from Sydney to Melbourne used less fuel. The writer put it down to the fact in hills and under load, it didn't need to revv. Honestly, the old commodore Buick v6 was like that too.
@chuckselvage3157
@chuckselvage3157 2 года назад
My mate owned a BF Barra XR6 turbo it pulled 10s on slicks.Scary fast.🇦🇺👍🙂
@ruslandslava4095
@ruslandslava4095 2 года назад
Madness... what a lovely machine.
@CustomcrowdMitroc
@CustomcrowdMitroc 2 года назад
i was a proud turbo barra ute owner here in australia. thing was bloody quick and powerful. it was the only car i could drive where i would never worry about it breaking down
@johnsterfer5906
@johnsterfer5906 2 года назад
Loved this video as a kiwi haha. You see these engines quite a lot here in the falcons. I would love for you to a video on the W8 in the Passat. Such a unique and odd engine.
@mpetersen6
@mpetersen6 2 года назад
One wonders just could have been done in the North American market with the 4.2 liter Atlas from GM. I'd like to see a video on the TC racing series in Argentina. Inline 6's from Ford, Chevy and Jeep converted to 24 valve DOHC.
@oscarzt1652
@oscarzt1652 2 года назад
3:41 I like this very much
@jamesfinn4547
@jamesfinn4547 2 года назад
Got one in my falcon and very nice engine. Easy engine to work on also
@e46m54nissansr20937
@e46m54nissansr20937 2 года назад
Imagine if Ford US replaced the 2.3l Ecoboost in the Mustang with this Barra detuned at about 300hp.
@TheRguru1
@TheRguru1 2 года назад
The falcon was offered with both the Barra and an American Ford V8. The Barra put the V8 to shame despite being the "lower end option". The same thing would happen if they put the Barra the Mustang.
@BoostWorx
@BoostWorx 2 года назад
Absolutely cracking engine 😁😁 could you do a feature on the mercedes m104 engine as the tuning potential is also ridiculous and they are still cheap to buy at the moment.
@erikhesjedal3569
@erikhesjedal3569 2 года назад
Ey, Visio! Listen to this guy! 😁
@VisioRacer
@VisioRacer 2 года назад
Yeah, I heard a word or two about them, the M103 and M104
@EconomicsMate1
@EconomicsMate1 2 года назад
@@VisioRacer turbo bandit is def a good reference
@jayjaypaypay2378
@jayjaypaypay2378 2 года назад
That would be cool.
@BoostWorx
@BoostWorx 2 года назад
@@VisioRacer i have many links of great tuned ones if you you like some. The m104 is the German JZ for sure 😜😜
@dy7296
@dy7296 2 года назад
Ford vs Ferrari ❌️ Ford vs Toyota ✅️
@Jacacatt
@Jacacatt 2 года назад
I had two Barra turbos. A BA FPV F6 Manual and a FG G6E Turbo. Both stock and great drives. The G6ET with 270 kw was a beast and seriously quick. Australia's best executive express by far.
@corporalpunishment1133
@corporalpunishment1133 2 года назад
Their are 1000hp Barra engines running stock cams no port work on the heads nothing that's totally impossible with RB's and 2J's. I think the most overlooked aspects is the large oil returns and roller cams.
@thebigboybossy4232
@thebigboybossy4232 2 года назад
Yeah most people follow that narrative that these RBs and 2Js can make huge power and last long without any bottom or top end mods
@definitionmedia1130
@definitionmedia1130 2 года назад
Get off the ice
@definitionmedia1130
@definitionmedia1130 2 года назад
@@thebigboybossy4232 2jz shits on the barra stock to built,barras are average with many problems and need everything changed improved just to make small power,one min these barea bogans are saying capacity is king then there pulling capacity out to get anywhere.its just bogans talking shit,that no stuff all,1 thing I no is 2jz and lots of other motors shits on the barra and the bogans hate it
@thicctranslations352
@thicctranslations352 2 года назад
@@definitionmedia1130 built 2J’s cost a fortune let alone getting the motor itself Barra’s are a great budget platform the green top fetched for a price of 1k at one point. You only need roughly 5k with the right engine mods to make a solid 600+ hp build. Stop hating bro it’s a solid engine and is capable of being an awesome build
@definitionmedia1130
@definitionmedia1130 2 года назад
@@thicctranslations352 I have owned 2 barras and been Into jz and supras fir 20 years.the barra is ok,the 2jz is the king for a reason.barras are all down low and slow top end 2jz are slow down low and a animal from mid range to top end,old saying get what you pay for.
@780brando
@780brando 2 года назад
damnit now I want one or 2 or
@Nighthawk_r33
@Nighthawk_r33 11 месяцев назад
I plan to buy one for my R33 in the future.
@chrisrutherford3862
@chrisrutherford3862 2 года назад
Good on ya Mate
@adamossowicz2611
@adamossowicz2611 2 года назад
I was quite surprised to see that you had heard about my local engine 😅 Guess it really is that good if even you have heard of it 😅 Also, it was in the BF and FG year model falcons too :)
@robertstone6939
@robertstone6939 2 года назад
as someone who owns an Ford Falcon XR6 Turbo, theyre amazing, light engine work and upgraded fuel system im at 400rwkw comfortably, with more room. killer cars.
@grahamnutt8958
@grahamnutt8958 2 года назад
So many tuning possibilities. Shame that us Brits are unlikely to experience this engine 🤔. Great content 👍.
@Varinki
@Varinki 2 года назад
Hub Nut has an older one.
@thesulo12
@thesulo12 2 года назад
beast of a motor to the bad that car it sits in will give up long before the motor
@thebigboybossy4232
@thebigboybossy4232 2 года назад
This sounds similar to the LS abundance here in North America, the gearhead in me wishes they sold them here too just to see the chaos of barra vs LS in the modding world
@TheKnobCalledTone.
@TheKnobCalledTone. 2 года назад
LS vs Barra is one of the big pub arguments down here, at least until someone chimes in about the 2JZ or RB
@aretardridesmotard6128
@aretardridesmotard6128 2 года назад
There's ex taxis out there with stupid high mileage, approaching 1mil kms. Then the tuners get a hold of them, throw a turbo in and send them down the quarter mile. Incredible cars, incredible engines.
@RohanSanjith
@RohanSanjith 9 месяцев назад
And fry the piston rings
@prolosertheatomistic8101
@prolosertheatomistic8101 2 года назад
Love my XR6T. Such a reliable fun car.
@mitchjames9350
@mitchjames9350 2 года назад
It’s a beefy motor with plenty of torque. Great for drag racing, on the track, the streets and in 4WD’s for off roading. You don’t need much money to get power out of the Barra.
@benthreadgate5190
@benthreadgate5190 2 года назад
Nice. Ever considered checking out its grandad, the 250 crossflow? Saw one in a pilot vehicle with over a million on the clock and she still purred.
@shuginubi
@shuginubi 2 года назад
Aussies has it so unique - mostly plane and vast terrains, that's why utility cars still a huge thing there. like trucks are so popular in US, or small cars in EU.
@spergalicious27
@spergalicious27 2 года назад
It's crazy to know that in certain parts of the world Ford is known for a reliable motor
@stuartruss7536
@stuartruss7536 2 года назад
Only because us Aussie's designed and built it 😁
@stephenpage-murray7226
@stephenpage-murray7226 2 года назад
Windsor V8 same
@stephenpage-murray7226
@stephenpage-murray7226 2 года назад
Windsor V8 same
@TheKnobCalledTone.
@TheKnobCalledTone. 2 года назад
@@stuartruss7536 tbf the Yanks gave us the original Thriftpower 6. We just kept improving it for about 50 years. 😉
@android584
@android584 2 года назад
Ah a reminder of Australia's extinct car manufacturing industry. The taxi industry did prefer Falcons over Commodore or Camry. I imagine the straight six configuration alone would've have helped, despite the Buick V6 being very reliable.
@scootbmx01
@scootbmx01 2 года назад
Good write up... The stock oil pump gears are an issue even with lower power cars... Mostly manuals due to the shock loading. I've seen 300kw cars break them and take the engine with it. Also the turbos were the same regardless. The ba-bf used a gt35/40, fg to fgx went to a smaller 35/76 with fpv variants (including the xr6 turbo sprint) retaining the 3540.
@T.A.G
@T.A.G 2 года назад
Glad my channel was able to be used but would've loved some notice of intent to use..... or just a general ask of permission....
@sicstar
@sicstar 2 года назад
Ahh the down-under 2JZ. Already a classic in my books. Sadly underrated a f... sturdy as heck, metric crapton of power and torque potential and sounds really nice too :)
@Davido50
@Davido50 2 года назад
Ford's are awesome..can't go wrong!
@olspanner
@olspanner 2 года назад
Fabulous Ford Flamethrower !!!
@raymondwelsh6028
@raymondwelsh6028 2 года назад
Had a couple of vehicles with these engines, great reliable engines. Never thought anything about them at the time but sadly you don’t realize what you had till they’re gone. As with all sixes, no matter what you did you can never give them a good note, just a roar.🇦🇺
@deityofchoice173
@deityofchoice173 2 года назад
Bollocks. Sixes sound the best.
@jaybarber68
@jaybarber68 2 года назад
Love an inliner!
@Canhead56
@Canhead56 2 года назад
we need an OM606 video now to keep the strait 6 monsters going!
@markdurl8341
@markdurl8341 2 года назад
the barra is an excellent motor for almost any situation, whether it be a hot rodder who wants to leave an LS in the dust or a solid motor for daily driving like what i have, the barra potential for horsepower is limitless.
@luclucas135
@luclucas135 2 года назад
Thanks, seems like it helps if we comment, so from now on i will leave a Thanks at every video, luv your content !
@VisioRacer
@VisioRacer 2 года назад
Much appreciated!
@kreaola93
@kreaola93 2 года назад
I want a current gen Ford falcon so bad. It would be cool to basically have a RWD fusion without the hard work.
@itsdokko2990
@itsdokko2990 2 года назад
I wanna have the Barra experience someday. it's definitely on my bucket list of things to do if i go someday to the land down under
@lachlanbrown409
@lachlanbrown409 2 года назад
You could import one:)
@itsdokko2990
@itsdokko2990 2 года назад
@@lachlanbrown409 absolutely. i just hope i can live with 1 kidney only :p
@procrastinator1842
@procrastinator1842 2 года назад
@Ducko Until mightcarmods built the barra powered Cresta, you could buy a barra at ANY junkyard for about $200. Nobody wanted them.
@jordonpollock1550
@jordonpollock1550 2 года назад
I'm an Aussie and always been a JDM guy, but I am tempted to sell my MPS and go Barra for my next purchase. Over here they are just too good for the money.
@chrisreardon7185
@chrisreardon7185 2 года назад
Barras are solid units, they’re all over the place and i can’t spend one night without hearing a barra powered car rip skids somewhere in the distance. There’s even a few guys down the road with me who’ve slapped massive turbos on their utes and fry tyres to kingdom come
@cam_e6195
@cam_e6195 2 года назад
I got into the barra recently because of Adam Lz and his barra gt350
@larryboles629
@larryboles629 2 года назад
Holy Batman! I can think of a few uses for this "unicorn" beast. Who knows what we will see it in, thanks for the video. Be happy, be safe
@BIGSMOKE-bl2lq
@BIGSMOKE-bl2lq 2 года назад
The intech in the au are sick burnout cars just keep on going no mater how many times you cook them
@adriandeeth5456
@adriandeeth5456 2 года назад
My bf ute is 843rwkw on 35psi. Brilliant engines The original twin cam 4liter was supposed to come out in the el falcon days but Holden kept the old pushrod v6. Then Ford was going to to the au Still Holden kept the ecotec. When the ba came out Ford finally put it in the car. I remember working at Ford going to the development factory in Melbourne seeing a el falcon with a twin cam turbo. Broken front and back windows from the torque though.
@lachlanbrown409
@lachlanbrown409 2 года назад
If I understand you right Ford help off on the twin cam until the BA because Holden stuck with the Ecotec? I still remember reading about the XR6 Turbo as a teenager. Exciting times
@chrishansen7004
@chrishansen7004 2 года назад
Canadians love inline 6 motors too, why can't we have these here :( ford would sell even more f150's if they had this turbo inline 6 instead of the Ecoboost and it just flat out makes more sense than a v6
@theegwana2103
@theegwana2103 2 года назад
I loved my old Barra xrt6 had ported head ,intercooler upgrade and more boost was great fun done friken awsome skids sold it and had a 2jz Hilux sold that n back 2 Barra lol
@shotforshot5983
@shotforshot5983 2 года назад
I always wanted to drop one in my TJ.
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