i love these cars. My son is named Jake after jaek Ryuan from Sixteen Candles because he was so cool and his 944 was fantastic...and yes I own a 944 turbo...but had he not been named Jake he probably would have been named Joel from Risky Business because of how cool Joel was driving the 928!
I owned a 1987 928s4 automatic for many years. It was incredibly easy to drive and so much fun! Very fast and turned heads everywhere you go! Maintenance can be expensive but it's worth it!
You need to drive the 928 to truly appreciate it. The stability of the car at high speed is nothing short of epic. I've driven a lot of cars and nothing compares to my 1987 928 S4 for long distance, high speed driving.
Yes exactly! In my younger days I had the car up to over 260km/h on autobahn. It was unbelievable stable and the higher the speed the more the car seemed to stick itself to the ground. I wouldnt do that today but I still have the car 16years later and will probably never sell it.
Got myself a 1980 928S as my first car a few months ago. Working on getting it running with the help of a mechanic friend but even before I've driven it more than a few km, I'm kind of in love... The noise, the interior (especially the seats - talk about ergonomical!), the looks and of course those wonderful pop-up headlights! It's such an overengineered car - every little detail has been thought through. Most certainly a great car that will only appreciate in value if you take care of it. Can't wait to take mine out on the roads for real!
@@gooberboy599 It’s an old car, so things break. Had some issues with a poor fuel mixture due to a vacuum leak messing up the warmup regulator, but it’s what you have to expect with a 40 year old car. She’s a joy to drive on the weekends and I smile every time I fire her up or step on the gas.
I own a 1984 928s black on black, rare 5 speed. It has BBS wheels and the leather interior is in very good condition. I had it supercharged by 928 Motorsport in Wisconsin . Carl Faussett sent me the kit and instructions. It also has a straight pipe exhaust system. This car has incredible torque and almost impossible to stall . The dogleg shift is a little tricky to get used to at first. It handles beautifully with it,s passive rear wheel steering . So ahead of it's time !
A 928 was also also featured in a movie called The Hidden. The good guy used one to hunt down the bad alien guy who liked to drive Ferrari. Great movie!
A thing to consider when buying a 928, if the condition of the drivers seat is tore up, the car most likely was not well cared for. Not in every case but 90%. But if the seat is in great shape that is a good place to start. If you were to ask anyone on Facebook under 928 docs or 928 owners you will find dozens of owners who can even help finding a nice 928. The Cassis colored car has a linen interior , I have only seen 2 that was not shot. This one has the wear and you can just barely see the drivers bolster were it's cracked and slightly damaged. Nice car but bringing a 33 year old car that can do 170 mph to a good driver takes some cash. The rear bumper is not stock, it is a GTS bumper and most would not change that unless original was damaged. In 1976 Porsche made 200 million dollars. That year they spent 400 million dollars engineering the 928. They invented the hidden bumper so to speak. One issue was the body and paint were 2 different paints. One for metal and one for rubber. They both match perfect and fade at the same rate.
Just discovered your channel today... I own a 84 928s. Im enjoying your videos with your 911's. I live just outside of Asheville NC, Looking forward to more of your videos!
Welcome, and thanks for watching. Love your area of the state. That's where I take the 911's to REALLY, REALLY enjoy them. The roads around Little Switzerland, Fontana Dam, etc. are killer.
Good video. Just a correction. The "Manhole" wheel design wasn't exclusive to the 928. The 85-87 Audi 5000 S had the sane design. Also, from my research, the 928 was never intended to replace the 911. Rather, it was to create a new car to satisfy the trend, especially in the US, of buyers wanting more luxury cars vs more raw cars like the 911.
928 is actually superbly made car just like 964 and 993. Over-engineered and it cost Porsche a lot to make and didn't really make that much profit for them. Very undervalued and those S4's are genuine bargains in the market. Buy them now!
Everyone loves more accessible Porsche models like the 944 and 928. In my opinion, I think it’s similar to the comparison people make today, between the cayman and the 911. It’s interesting how unique the 911 is compared not only to other cars but even Porsche models going back 50 years. Excellent video as always. Take care.
Love 928s ❤️🇳🇴🙏 Got a 1985 euro 928S. Nearly mint 95% 😀 last 5% is just small things that I can see, or knowe about. White gold metallic , stick shift. Just a excellent car
It might be a case of what you got used to first. I am so used to driving the luxury feel of a 928 the first time I got into a 911 of the same era I was like " This feels like crap " I doubt it would be that bad the other way around. So if you "spoil" yourself with the feel of a 928 I think it would ruin the first-time experience of a 911. So if you want both Id recommend the 911 first so you can enjoy both when you have them.
Super Cars I feel like it’s really not an apples to apples comparison but rather a “hey I’m in the mood to be rowdy, I’ll drive my 911” or “I just want to cruise so let me jump in my 928”
@@Rennthusiast As someone who currently has 5 Porsches (1984 3.2 targa, 1987 928S4, 1988 944 turbo S, 2009 C2S, 2011 958 TT) and in the past has owned a ‘73 2.4T, ‘82 SC and a ‘95 993 I can say that each has its own character and high points. :-)
My dad had a brand new ‘73 911T and I would take it out (steal) in junior high school Close to the first car I’ve ever driven I learned to shift on motorcycles In my thirties my dad admitted that he knew I was taking out his car but he was so possessive he would have literally had to kill me if he played that hand Big trouble was granted for much less than taking his out 911 No one drove his car but him 😅
The Casis Red car probably had a rear end accident. The normal S4 rear bumper cover is NLA so you have to go with the GTS rear bumper cover. That is what that Casis Red car has. It has the bumper cover from the 1992-1995 GTS. I think the interior color on that car is actually called Linen, not parchment.
I'm now 58 and my first love for Porsche was not the 911, it was the 928 and began in 1978 on a 7th grade field trip to the McCormick auto show. I've had three since the early 90's my first being a 80 euro automatic which I couldn't stand and sold for manuals. I prefer the late 70s non-body side molding limited slip manual.
Gullideckels came in three finishes, anodized, chrome (which has a light brushed finish) and platinum. His silver car has the anodized finish his pink car has the light brushed. The same forged light wheels were available as the 16 inch option on the contemporary Porsche 944S, the sixteen valve 944 variant.
87 and up... love them for some reason, Dog leg 5 SPD is neat, little rubbery but nice to get into gear, but I wonder why they made the gas peddles SO heavy, it's like pushing on a Brick. The heavy steering I can understand, last thing you want is to over over boosting power steering on the autobahn. Would love to own one. Grand Touring car (like my Challenger) that can hang Ten if it needs too lol
Drove non stop excepting fuel & a steak in Dallas with my Brother to Englewood, Colorado from New Orleans, @ one point passed 31 cars above 130 mph, quiet, A/C, low stereo and normal conversation without a doubt puts the 911 including the vaulted 930 too shame as a high speed asphalt eater. Bought an M6 to return, found it to be a 500 mile car at best. 928 4 cam is the sweetest Porsche... Beats the new iteration of the Panamera to hell and back...perfection comes once...
1989 here. 125K miles. Dark brown leather interior. Memory seating. Finished in the very rare Coral metallic which was only available for that year. Original MSRP was near 75K That is $160,000 in today's money. Crazy.
Picked up an 86.5 that needed lots of TLC, love it, and agree that it draws a crowd when the C&Cs are now filled with GT3s, Carreras, etc. I'm not a neun-elfer hater at all and would love to have one...but watch Magnus Walker's reactions to his recent 928 buys. The really grab you after driving them.
As an owner of a early Platinum manual they are a true GT touring car and getting rare as time goes by It’s the electrical gremlins you have to deal with even up to the modern GT😩
I am surprised to see that the silver car with the Pasha interior hasn’t found a home yet. Great looking example with only 65k miles. Do yourself a favor and list it on BaT in the spring. It should do well there. The 87 model was also the fastest production car for its day with Al Hobert setting the “flying trap” record. That car is current being restored according to his son. Also, there were just over 61k examples made from 77-95. This was an extraordinary car when it debuted and is to this day the only sports car to win the car of the year award.
That’s a GTS rear bumper and reflector only made for the 92-95 GTS. I have to admit it really looks great especially in combination with the color shown in this video.
Always wanted one but maintenance nightmare stories have kept me on the sidelines.... 6 miles of wiring is a scary thing. But what a car. An 850BMW would be serious competition!
Good episode, thanks for posting it. Since I received a red Hot Wheels 928 in my McDonald’s Happy Meal in the early 80s, I’ve always wanted a 928! My first Porsche was a ‘85 944 and I loved her, so I can only imagine how cool it would be to own a 928. Today I own a 986S (04 Anniversary Edition), 955S, and a 991.1, but maybe if I find a 928 that won’t break the bank I’ll seriously consider getting one! Although I’d love to hear Dave Van Epps talk about the difference between an automatic vs a manual transmission! Thanks again!
I in California been working on my 928 then I would stop I'd lose interest now back working on it again. Hard to find someone to knows what they're talkin about on the 928
I got my 1986.5 928S for $6500 6 years ago, very clean and ran great. Now I can't even find a 928 for less than $20K. S4 models go for over $35K. GT and GTS models from $50K-150K.
I crashed mine into a stopped van at a light and slid down it from rear to front like a knife (I liked to speed and brakes didn’t bite) The van looked totaled but it hadn’t moved an inch as I sliced through the sheet metal skin like a hot knife through butter I barely had a small wrinkle in my front corner all my lights were working and fully intact you could not tell what that car had been through at all
I've loved the 928 since Risky Business and I was 6 when the movie came out. Back then I couldn't understand why my dad wanted a 911 over the 928. Now I know why. But I would still love to own one someday.
The BMW e31 8series is better at high speed comfort and stability, I own both, a 1991 928gt and a 1995 840ci. The 928 was magnificent but you feel is was conceived in the 70's. Very reliable cars, built to last, not like today s Porsches.
The guy being interviewed doesn’t know much about these cars. The reflector on the rear bumper is from a 92+ GTS model. The comment about driving experience is only correct for an automatic car. The 5-speed cars drive very differently. It’s hard to compare them to 911’s, these drive much more like a newer Mk4 Supra.
Thanks for the clarification AMRennsports. I knew it wasn't available on an '87, and specifically pointed out that I didn't consider myself a 928 expert on the year to year changes. I've owned an '89 automatic for 6 years and Will asked to interview me from any owner's perspective, and someone who enjoys the cars. I appreciate your willingness to point out your superiority and let those commenting drink from your your vast fountain of knowledge.
I'm not a 911 fan, but I still know a lot about them.....you ain't a car guy if you don't know some things about the 928, especially if you're a Porsche fan
The 928 is the sexiest car ever made. If money was no object, I'd still perfer it to any exotic or muscle car ever built. It was love at first sight for me. I hope to own one some day. Thank you.
I looked hard at the 928, 850 and a Muscle car,all for the same dollars, I went with a Muscle car, the Euro cars maintenace issues just scared the hell out of me.
The 928 S4 came out in 1986. My dad had a 928S2 when new and later a 928S4. That strip is from a 928 GTS era. They are a better car than the period 911. The period to 1987 911 did not offer ABS the turbo did not offer 5 speed. The 911 had poor balance and steering wheel that did not adjust it did not even have power steering. The 928 had a higher top speed than an 1987 911 turbo. If was buying one now would opt for a 911
The 911 is the poor man's 928. Sorry - I gotta call balls and strikes. the 928 was European "Car" of the Year 1979. No other sports car including the 911 has ever won "Car" of the year. The 928 has won 2 production car land speed record at Bonneville (1986 and 2020) - the 911 has exactly won none. Even 911 enthusiast Magnus Walker has started his 928 collection - its Now or Never for the 928 still the biggest Bang for the Buck in classic Porsches. Singer/RWB/RUF could easily reimagine 928s - its just a matter of time before someone specializes in customizing and outlawing 928s - There is no substitute.
The Porsche 928 reminds me a lot of the Lexus SC-400 = curved jellybean shape, with a V8 up front, and rear-wheel drive. The only difference is that the Lexus doesn't won't bankrupt you in high repair costs at the dealer the way a Porsche usually does.
Drive one if you haven't and push it. The V8 howl and the incredible visibility and the handling really make them interesting as an experience. Totally different rhan my Cayman S in every way except the grin.
I have had my 78 23 years - they are mechanically very reliable and robust and if you know a little bit about 12 volt electrics they are no issue with there either - sorry to disagree
I'll stand by my "supercar" comment as there are lots of others who would have thought of 928s in this light. The definition today has certainly changed, but it was a pretty short list of cars in that category in the 80's.
Greetings Marcel. FYI in 1987, 34 years ago, Hal Holbrook a race car driver (hope to remember his name correctly) took a stock, unmodified 928 S4, and at the salt flats in the USA at his very first run established an official World Speed Record for a regular production line car at~177 miles per hour!!!. Hmm. What is your definition of a supercar, because you lost me in your C'mon and the rest of your comments. Cheers.
I’ll add something to this little conversation…my brother and I have a 1994 GTS auto in our collection (I’m an Wounded Warrior amputee so hold your “it’s gotta have a manual comments”). We rarely drive it since my brother doesn’t like putting miles on it, but when I do I can tell you that unless I line up against a serious sports car like a modern Porsche or Corvette, that old GTS holds its old VERY well and smokes modern Mustangs unless they time shifts perfectly! I like it so much I’m trying to buy another one from the East Coast. So it may not be a super car, but a super GT?, definitely!
