What "Parents' Rights" REALLY Means 

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Ha... I read the video's title real fast before I clicked and was expecting something titled "What Panties Rights REALLY Means". Me and my drawers were so excited, but you let us down. I still watched the video though.

Zoo Bee! 💔 Who slipped KoolAid into your mug?! I thought you were somebody who paid attention and understood how broken and corrupt the public school systems are.... Is somebody paying you a lot of money to participate in this circus? Or are you offended because you are addicted to broken ideologies? I have not heard of anybody banning books because of LGBT characters There have been LGBT characters in public school libraries for at least three generations now. At least in my state. I have not heard of anybody trying to remove those books as long as they don't contain inappropriate sexual content. The same would go for any books that contain sexual content that are heterosexual. Not to mention that these books that people are mostly fighting have graphic descriptions and sometimes illustrations of adult sexually abusing children. And what's even more terrible is that some of these books are not displaying the scientifically objective knowledge that that is wrong and unhealthy. Obviously it's maddeningly abusive. Or at least it's obvious if you don't have your head in the sand. There are scientifically backed reasons why showing a minor pornography is considered abuse. This is along those lines It's pretty clean cut. Not to mention that any parent giving taxes to the public school system has the right to have a say because they're the ones paying for it that's why it's public school and not private school. That all literally goes towards the pay of teachers and librarians and curriculum &c. Luckily we don't live in an entire dictatorship yet so this will be about having faith that the majority of parents are not completely brain dead and will not tire of this fight. Personally I do think that any parent that is paying attention and has any chance to homeschool should be doing that. The schools have been feeling on an academic level for a long time. Long before my generation and therefore long before this current generation. I have found that most times people say they cannot handle homeschooling it's not true. If a parent truly cannot downsize and afford to be home with their child themselves or to have a trusted friend or family member do it; then there are co-ops, and even Charter schools are a better alternative though most of them also promote false teachings. For example the forefathers were not Christian. Yes they promoted themselves as such in a way to market their leadership. Since the majority of citizens likely were Christians at the time or thought themselves as such. There's much more evidence of writings by the forefathers and about the forefathers That proves the opposite. Some were outright Satanist and others were simply Catholic or atheist. This is one teeny tiny example of how society is brainwashed through the public school system. But if it is a distance learning charter school then the parent has a better chance to guide their child away from misinformation. They can teach them how to think critically and how to validate sources better for themselves when they're developmentally ready to do so. Parents should also be aware of that physical abuse has not been entirely uncommon in public schools either for a very long time. Thank you for reading this, I hope you continue to read while validating your sources and thinking critically. Your brain is beautiful and meant to be used. ❤

Zoe you're awesome 👌

Well yeah, we are one of the only countries that didn't sign the Child protection world treaty.

Well yeah because our society doesn’t want to take care of others kids. That’s why it’s so hard to remove kids from abusive parents.

That's why we don't fund schools properly.

That's why CPS is so critically understaffed.

​@@user-th1pv6ks5othat seemed like more of a comment on the way we privately "raise" children instead community based child care

Or they become mindless drones; who will go on to do the same to their children too

One hundred percent.

Do these parents use authoritarian methods more because the parents see the children as a tool to use towards some strange ends? Or because they never wanted a child in the first place?

also, if anyone disagrees this is authoritarian, moms for liberty quotes adolf hitler on their front page

@@Cnichal No the mindless drones are those sorry brats who were dumped in institutions from birth onwards and never developed a real soul.

Just wow man. Just wow

the way the world, especially America, treats most living things needs a general shift of an entire Overton window length towards respect. we treat farm animals like objects even worse than how we treat kids, and we even treat adults like they're automatically deserving if mistreatment or manipulation for the "greater good", whatever that means in context, and only give them a thin line of plausible deniability that they might not being doing anything wrong out of personal convenience (or fear) of the logic of, "what if it were me?" but even that only gets people so far with their seemingly innate desire to see others suffer. maybe im being pessimistic, but it really seems like the average person is, atleast ignorantly, somewhat evil, or maliciously so

My mom argued the same thing that kids shouldn't have any bodily autonomy with the medical system.

Reminds me of that time my mom hung a poster with my country's childrens rights in the bathroom because "they're important" and a few months later when I called her out on something she did that violated them, she told me that they weren't enforced or something and made it clear she wasn't going to follow them because clearly she knows better.

@@northernguy4262 Yeah, that happens (more kids posting than parents) when a video affects them. Don't forget that kids can have opinions too on how they should be parented. Don't forget that THEY are the ones BEING PARENTED. But yeah, I agree that privacy is *mostly* a privilege that can be revoked. But in my opinion, if a child is doing something wrong on the internet for example, unless it's a life/death situation, you should get the child's permission to disrespect their privacy.

70s school were desegrageted Think mid 50's

Its the same people still pushing hate & division and calling it parents rights, perhaps even states rights. Anti-LGBT rhetoric is a tenet of white supremacy.

@@SB-iy9vn It was signed into law, yes, but it took until the 70s to have it fully desegregated in much of the South.

Wait… what? @Ranixo286 Splain it to me like I’m 10 years old…. which I was in the 1970’s. Were you?

@@AintSkeerdNWO my grandparents were teenagers in the 60s and 70s in the south, desegregation was declared law in ‘54, but many MANY districts in the southern US refused to desegregate, took the feds stepping in and making it happen for it to actually occur. My own grandparents watched it happen, my high school was historically black, and when desegregation started my grandmother had friends whose siblings were made to switch schools to mine. And she described their parents as being “less than happy” about it, and because of the history of my hometown? Yeah, its not because of their kids going to a different school.

"If I tell you to strip, you strip" That's absolutely horrendous holy crap

I’m so sorry… I’m happy you’re away from that horrendous monster…

I was 28 the last time my mother pulled up my dress to inspect my underwear. Looking back, I don't understand how I ever thought that was normal or ok.

How can she tell you to strip, then turn around and have no qualms about coming off like a pimpess or sex trafficker in the making? Does she have no idea how incriminating that is for herself?

That line if i tell you to strip, you strip is absolutely outrageous. Your mom may as well be a rapist wtf

You're not a nerd, you're a moron who thinks shitty TV is profound.

Uncle Bobby

it's really true too. It's a brilliant quote

It's not a kind thing to do, but many of the ones doing this sort of thing are not kind people. They don't care about the independence of their child. To them the child is little more than a cudgel they can swing against perceived iniquities of the world; a soldier in a neverending cultural war. The children's lives are not their own any more than are their parents'--they are indebted to and on some level enslaved to the *culture.* And the whims of the culture must be served.

As someone who was homeschooled up through high school, even now, at 35, I *still* have trouble making my own decisions in life without an authority figure to tell me it's the right thing, so I heartily agree with you. Every decision I made was tightly monitored and controlled by my parents, who thought it was love. Making any decision they disagreed with resulted in a painful, humiliating spanking. These days I suffer from pretty bad decision paralysis that I'm in therapy to try to overcome, and I think it's because I was treated this way. If you try to make all of your kid's decisions for them, you end up training someone who is incapable of knowing what they want for themselves in life, and that leads to lots of problems.

I know this is an ancient thread at this point, but I want to put what you just said much more brutally. For the record, I say this in support of your point. A parent's job is not to protect their child's innocence. That's impossible, it _will_ be shattered eventually, that's the nature of the world. Bad things happen sometimes. No, their job is simple. Their job is to shatter that innocence themselves, in a controlled fashion, no matter how much they might not want to, in order to keep that shattering from shattering *_their child_* with it.

Uncle grandpa

As a former foster kid….I would agree 👍🏽

I mean also that's just the basic idea of human rights, they apply to all humans regardless of age, sex or ethnicity. You don't get to override them simply because they contain 50% of your DNA.

The decision will be made by the State or the legal guardian of a different capacity then, and not the child themselves. We already have mechanisms for taking away parental rights of bad parents. Why take away rights of good parents?

AMEN. Children's well being is more important than any other issue; they're the next generation. The worst crimes of society are typically by people who were abused when they were younger. When people have chronic depression and anxiety it's often because of a dysfunctional home life.

The right to be protected, absolutely. The right to eat pizza for every meal, well, no. But of course parents should lead by example. It makes NO sense for a parent to eat pizza every night and force their kid to eat healthy food because it's better for them.

Yes! Preach!

Exactly!

I'm not a parent nor a kid. But I can still remember what it was like to be a child. Never lose that respect for yourself, it only gets more necessary as you get older

Thank you! You're so right. Some people act like no one can understand kids or parenting unless they're a parent themselves. Except ALL OF US HAVE BEEN KIDS at one point, so it's not like we have no idea how kids think or feel.

Have you considered that not every child needs the same thing as you? Let us take myself for an example. Have had a learning disability since birth, made it real hard for me to connect ideas and many social aspects of life. Meaning that I had issues with understanding personal boundaries and what is acceptable, essentially. At certain times I required physical punishment to learn, because I simply was *unable* to hold onto that social information without a strong other feeling. Just couldn’t do it.

Well put. You're expected to have the emotional maturity of an adult without free thought or expression. I've noticed this pretty often in mine and my friends' upbringings.

That's usually code for "I can't justify it, so I'm going to stall and hope you forget to ask the question again in a few years"

Felt. There are some unreasonable standards put on children even in 2023

Considering it’s proven that an overwhelming amount of people change their opinions once you get older they aren’t lying. Also your 28 and you don’t have kids of your own?

Speaking as someone who is "older", was an eldest child who was expected to take on adult responsibility too young, and is a parent now -- I agree wholeheartedly. I think very often that response (you'll understand when you're older) is a lazy way for people to avoid having a real conversation about their own failures.

I think minors (by this, I mean teens 15-17) should be able to work if they want to but not be taxed at all until they're 18. Either that, or they should be able to vote starting at 15.

Well said.

​​@@mynameisreallycool1there are people who earned their political rights way earlier than 18, and also there are some who are past even their 40's and shouldn't be able to participate politically. the unfortunate thing is that the latter is way easier to be applied thand the first, and for the wrong reasons. 😢

In many states in the US minors can be married with parental consent but have to right to file for divorce until age 18. Child marriage is alive and well in the US.

​@@louhortonsculpturethank the mormons!

So sorry

@@chris135x LMAO you're actually saying minors don't have rights? What a friggin massive red flag. GROOMER ALERT!

@@chris135x bait or mental retardation, pick.

@@chris135xjokes on you, a lot of people already never got any help from their parents to survive in the real world.

Your mom is correct, but its not that its a good thing. Children are legally their caregivers property, and many parents take advantage of that. My parents included, but sadly I'm 14 and I still have to wait 4 more years to finally leave

That's not a hot take, buddy :D

​@@maxchess6734apparently it is for some thick skinned "parents"

@@loreyxillumina if it is for 1% (and even for up to 30%) of parents, it is not a hot take...

@@maxchess6734 true that

No one has a right to kids

So much this. "You think literally assaulting your own children is a good and normal thing to do. You did not turn out fine."

Oh. Don’t forget the fun quote, “don’t tell me how to raise my child” “I have a name, mom.”

My mom wasn't abused by her parents, but she did a number to my sister and I. Then as adults she literally said we turned out just fine and all sorts of other gaslighting shit when we confronted her. She died from cancer last year, and I really do miss my mom, but I sure don't miss the antagonism she created.

"I turned out fine" sir, no you did not, you are absolutely insufferable. Go to therapy, you'll be thanked by literally everyone around you

@@ytgytgywhy would you miss that?

similarly, all of those will be the explanation for why their child cut them out of their life, because _surely_ they weren't to blame

I came out as trans and my parents immediately blamed my trans girlfriend for coercing me into transitioning. I met her months after I changed my name and pronouns. I told them this. They didn’t believe me.

This is happening to me right now

@@naruske97 The reason I wrote this comment was because that exact conversation had happened maybe an hour before I posted it lmao

Why do people always seem to find it so hard to take responsibility?

Glad to hear it man. I hope it goes well.

good for you! im glad your kids have a good dad that give them the respect they deserve

Preach Brother! Amen!

Much respect. Good luck to you my guy.

I wish you luck! You’ll be an amazing dad!

Making work harder today, making life harder tomorrow. Fixing the problem one communist shitrag at a time.

As a Dutch person, but not someone who teaches, I'm concerned as well: the religious, anti-LGBTQI+ based doctrine is flying over to my country as well, and this year, due to lies spread similarly like done by organisations like Mom's for Liberty, there was a massive hate campaign. According to an extreme-right website, and another super ultraconservative organisation in my country, there were lies spread about children in 4th grade 4 (you are about 7-8 years old here) being taught anal sex, children in 3rd grade were told to start experimenting with their genderidentity, and what not. It led to threats against the organisation who made the lesson materials (and, might I add: age-appropriate ones at that) and it caused heightened police presence in my street because of the (religious!) primary and elementary school around the corner from where I live, because they would be fully participating in a theme week surrounding sexual education for the first time, and had received threats as well as a result. Parents were also shouting how they were going to keep their children home, and were verbally threatening teachers to leave the children alone. This all happened in a country that used to be capable of having pride over the fact that with some subjects, we had a progressive, tolerant view, based on the idea you are much better preparing children for the rest of their life by for one thing, giving them comprehensive sexual education, because research continues to show that the better they are educated about it, the later they start having it, and should problems arise, the better prepared they are. Other subjects were treated with a sober approach to it, and this kind of extremism used to be countered by people making sure to let those holding those views know they were not welcome and should mind their words. The weirdest, and scariest thing mostly this time, was that it was easier than ever to disprove all the lies spread: the lesson materials are made available online for everyone to see, mostly so that parents can check them out so they are prepared about the possible questions their children might have, or simply if their children want to continue the conversation about it upon coming home. But every time you tried, you heard: "They took it out obviously because of all the criticism! Don't you get it!?" Next to this, some talkshows in my country also completely failed to do their journalism right: some invited the "concerned parents" (celebrities, mostly, who with having children of their own decided to help spread the lies on their own social media platform....) and instead of giving them a massive slap in the face by showing all the lesson materials and ask them where the explicit lesson materials were in those packages, these people got a massive platform to spread their lies and "concerns" and "how bad it was that we as a parent are increasingly losing the right and possibility to find out what our children are actually learning in school", and felt a massive justification in believing in said lies as a result. I fear for the next year this theme-week comes around honestly... I am scared a part of my country suffered a massive form of brainrot due to social media shoveling exactly the kind of hateful, anti-gay and anti-trans rhetoric through their mouths and reinforcing "what they always thought was already happening".

72 years... well that's a long **cking time so I have questions: how was teaching different back then? in what decade did you start teaching? I hope you have a lovely day!

"moved me to another country" ... so your family moved and you are angry about it? Perhaps I am missing a lot of context but don't you think that to fulfill their responsibilities of security, a home, etc. a parent might need to move? How does a child's consent play any role in a family moving?

@@doomcat6426 This is a lot of assumptions, but also a child should be consulted on whether the family moves in the first place. Or what does the child not have any right to have a stable life? The right to have relationships, and feel comfortable in the place they live without it all being taken away? Maybe the family has to move, but completely disregarding the child, i.e. "how does the child's consent play any role in a family moving" is extremely shitty, and truly makes me wonder if you think children are human beings who deserve stability and friendships.

@@doomcat6426if you wouldn't like to move to another country by force, why would a child?

​@@doomcat6426Sometimes moving to a different place is a requirement for survival or a better life and that should be clearly communicated to a child if that is the case, but it _is_ in fact possible to move for selfish or abusive reasons too. Wanting to isolate a partner or child and make them completely dependant on you, for instance, is much easier when you can simply force them to move into a gated or cult community where their interactions will be heavily limited and scrutinised thanks to the great distances and limits upon their resources.

Idk why you included sexual orientation and gender identity there

Yeah- ABA is conversion therapy, people need to remember that.

I was going to work for an autism learning center using ABA to help severely autistic children…how is ABA abusive?

They deny them food, water, medical care. They physically abuse them by beating them and electrocute them. The bastard who started Aba was a damn torturer and sadist nothing more.

@@breakingboundaries3950it emphasizes compliance and conformity, and can be extremely emotionally distressing to children. The use of punishment in ABA has also been linked to trauma and other negative psychological effects. It doesn’t teach people the skills to better navigate the world, but rather punishes them for behaviours considered “abnormal” such as stimming. There’s more information online if you want to know more

@@breakingboundaries3950 The simplest answer is, it's right there in its own self-described goals. It wants to try and make autistic kids indistinguishable from their neurotypical peers. That might not seem so bad at first glance, but think about it for a second. How would we be indistinguishable, to who, and to what benefit? By heavily policing our outward expression, and done in order to make the neurotypical people around us more comfortable. Have you ever heard of masking in this context? It means hiding our real selves and our autistic outward expressions behind a neurotypical mask, and it's exhausting. And getting us to do this is the _stated_ goal of ABA "therapy." It's rather similar to the idea of a "therapy" designed to make gay people indistinguishable from their straight peers. You know, gay conversion "therapy." Which, in case you didn't know, ABA was a spin-off from originally. Because quite frankly, it gets _so much worse_ the further back you look, and remnants of that old conception still poison the practice to this day even if you want to talk only about the ones that make the attempt to care (because some don't). Now, I will be as fair as possible, and acknowledge that some people who have had really rough times can find some benefit from ABA. However. They could get that benefit from a more responsive, compassionate variety of therapy more responsive to autistic expression being valid and accepted, that merely sought to help people be the best versions of their entirely autistic selves that they could be.

As someone who also had this, it’s wrong for anyone to force their beliefs onto anyone else; this garbage needs to stop - I’m sorry you went through this too…

Controlling or do you really mean raising children

@@petervizzini4006do you really mean raising children, or do you mean controlling them. It sounds like it’s the same thing for you

​@@awkwardukulele6077 No parents for the most part try to raise children to the best of their abilities using experience from their past. LGBTQ wants to train them into obedient drones

@@petervizzini4006 could you explain yourself? he litteraly said controling if you are talking about your own experiences in a chistian family i can understand but you have to remember every family is different maybe you were a lucky outlier but yeah the same applies to the original coment

Exactly. And every other group in society is protected from such abuse…except the most vulnerable.

Another good argument: It is said that you should never hit a dog when training it. If you can train a dog without hitting it, why should you have to hit a child when training them?

@@kathrynmyrick1739 I must be a terrible horrible evil animal hating Nazi for occasionally hitting a dogs nose or butt with a rolled up newspaper or magazine then. I also love how you compare human children to non-sentient animals. If we 'trained' human kids exactly how we train our pets, we'd never teach them to speak.

@e-w-4174 I said USUALLY and I STAND by that, and you can take your strawmanning and misquoting me and shove it up your ass.

@@remo27​​⁠I wouldn't go as far as "animal hating Nazi" but you don't sound like a person I'd want to be around. The dog analogy isn't literal. In the long run, hitting kids teaches them to be afraid of you. It doesn't teach them why whatever they did was wrong. Once they hit 18, they're leaving and never looking back. If you can't find other ways to teach kids than to smack them, maybe you shouldn't be a parent. And don't hit your dog either.

Obviously, we adults need to fix this, but kids can also exercise power, they just don't realize it yet. The power is always with the subservient one because only they can determine when no is final and the dominant one can't make them change their mind without their permission. Refuse to go to school or work pr help around the house en masse until we adults get their heads out of their asses. Speak to newspapers. Report any and all physical or mental abuse by adultd - minor or major - to the authorities and reporters and online via libraries and social media. Make noise. Be the squeakiest wheel ever. Stand outside government buildings in protest. They shouldn't have to, of course, but cornering these gross "parent's rights" people is going to take a pincer approach, sadly.

So it's kind of systematic in the way that once you have powere you do the same abuse or disregard them, in other words it's intrinsikly thought to us to abuse power on on end and to ignore on the other. So a system that tells us to disregard others becouse that isn't my issu. If anybody want's to bother about this; I found nervous brakdowns and other some such are counter productif, so I Hope you stay healthy.

I saw someone on tumblr say that, after years of working in social care and helping people get away from abusive partners and off the streets, they don't know what they'd do if they were a kid who needed to escape abusive parents. There are no facilities for helping a child leave an abusive home of their own free will - no shelters, no programmes, no funds. The police take runaways back home without asking why the kid ran and shelters don't take unaccompanied minors. You're absolutely right: kids don't have a lot of protections or rights and don't have any way to get them. We adults have to fight on your behalf.

Women and black people couldn't vote either. It's hard, but convincing others that we aren't apes that can be molded into what society wants has been proven time and time again to be possible.

And also, you eventually stop being a kid. (At least externally)

Or are just the property of the parent...

Idk if it matters if you have kids or not when so many parents aren't even trying to hide that

Honestly, as someone who was constantly pressed to conform to the expectations of my mother up until my twenties, you’re probably right.

You're totally right. I'm very fortunate in that my parents have always valued my siblings and I as individuals, but SO MANY parents just view their kids as extensions of themselves that they can do whatever they want to. It's why a lot of close-minded parents get so angry when their kids come out as LGBTQ or express different political opinions; they're actively going against how the parents view themselves.

@@hagoryopi2101 Bruh, you're bringing up an entirely unrelated topic from OP's point. We're talking about how too many parents think they OWN their kids, not that parents shouldn't ever make any decisions for their kids.

I want the same for my kiddo!

Based. Absolutely based.

Reminds me of how my dad has put it (IIRC it was apparently inspired by a native american saying?); "We are really just borrowing you from your future adult selves for a short time in your life, until you can live independently. Your life is yours, and our role is simply to support it." Not that that means support ends at 18yo to him! He still helps and supports and is there for even his 45yo adult son when he needs him. He has said about that, "Being a parent is a life-long duty. I _want_ to support my children. I will always have a duty to you." If it's not already clear, I love him very much 🥹🫶 My other parent felt like _children_ had a duty to care for their _parent_ (even when they're a small child) because "We're family", so having my dad in my life really was so important to me, and he stood up for us a lot, and always argued fiercely against when mom tried to fight with him over that they need to have a "united front" (consisting of her unreasonable opinion ofc), saying "No, it is important our children feel that they are listened to, and I don't support [her unreasonable decision]"

I hate that this is not the norm

Peace, Love And Plants

You are strong and awesome. Thank you for sharing your story.

Thank you for sharing, and thank you for the hope and encouragement you give to others. I'm so sorry for the pain you experienced and I wish you all the happiness, love and support you deserve! ❤❤❤

Do you know anyone who has set up a system for childs rights? I mean the best case scenario and how to get there with the nechessery failsafes. Becouse talking about that may be populare but the extensivety of waht needs to be done will bore any rally to sleep, also a concreate goal is easyer to work dowords than an neabulus idea and I'm not bothering to think if I would support such a plan if prevention isn't seariusly coverd in it. I now hypokrits are frustrating, so ? .... hope your healthy, meantally to. Still learning sochiall stuff.

As a trans and queer kid, I really needed to hear this. Thanks so much for sharing, and I really hope you and your family are well!

Well, those teachers probably don't know what theyre talking about, but neither do parents opposed to sex ed! 😂 I learned most of my sex ed from the Planned Parenthood website, the Sexplanations channel, and my doctor. Tbh the most important lessons I learned were just about good practices for health in that area of my body (like avoiding ANY scented products in that area, quickly changing out of sweaty or wet clothes, wearing natural fibers instead of synthetic, tight pants can lead to irritation and infection, etc.) The condom and birth control thing was made fairly clear, but the little details of caring for that part of your body (beyond "wash regularly" and "use pads") were not something ANYONE discussed with me. Hang in there. You're doing okay.

That's a HUGE part of sex ed that is NEVER taught! Proper care for your own bits. It's probably why SO MANY PEOPLE still think: - You need to wash INSIDE the vagina - You don't need to wash the whole penile area (also, can we talk about how women are made to be OVERLY clean, as if we're dirty naturally, but men are not nearly as concerned about their own genital cleanliness, as if they are naturally more clean???) - That douches are okay or good to use - That tampons take your virginity - That every girl has a hymen and no blood on her first time means she's already had sex - That sex should HURT for a girl's first time - That girls don't even know vaginal discharge is a NORMAL healthy thing, so it leads to girls like ME assuming I was peeing my pants a little bit all the time - Etc

Hang in there. You're entitled to the wisdom or your life experience just like anyone else. Just keep that mind open, I know it's hard when so many voices get amplified telling you you don't know what you're talking about.

i mean teachers teaching about stuff should have an understanding of what their teaching in 10th grade at my highschool all kids were required to take a basic health class that wasn't too in depth on sex ed but gave us everything we needed to understand

One of my students, about your age, put together a complex discussion of how relatively liberal Australian sex ed reproduces patriarchal norms. I can only extend my sympathy to your situation, but it's improving all the time.

you could probably have her arrested for that

She should be locked up for that.

You literally just contradicted yourself based on one of your previous comments

Saw a frustrated kid at a supermarket hitting his aunt. She threatened to hit him if he didn't behave how she wanted. GEE, I WONDER, WHERE DID HE LEARN THAT VIOLENCE IS AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO GET THE DESIRED BEHAVIOR IF YOU'RE FRUSTRATED?

My dad used the belt on me about 4 times growing up and never used anything else. That's 4 out of the 6,000 plus days I lived with him. He never did it in anger, didn't swing it very hard, and only reserved it for when I did something really bad, which is why it was so infrequent. That taught me that I can't just do whatever I want and expect no repercussions for my actions. It also taught me that if I lie to somebody they're eventually going to find it out. People learn differently from different situations. So while the belt worked on me, I know it does not work on everyone. I certainly wouldn't recommend it be used often, if at all. My mom and dad also saved up a decent sized college fund for me and that sure as heck helped me out later.

You should see the audacity of the parents once the child finds out what was done to them once they realize they chose the wrong one, and now the kid is trans. Or that they had been mutilated in the name of conformity and lose all trust in them for hiding it. I know from personal experience that it's NOT pretty, and I'm lucky I survived.

@@etherweb6796 Ok you are assuming that sex reassignment surgery is being done on children. I can assure you it is not common whatsoever except in the case of intersex infants. As even the most supportive doctors always have the health of the patient at heart, it's a process to get approved that takes years of interrogation that is only considered for teenagers at earliest. You assume corrections by surgery are bad as a whole don't you? And are hiding behind that "think of the children" angle like a coward like the rest of the the regressives. Every time someone uses hypothetical children as pawns in politics, you are hurting real people who don't have the right to speak for themselves yet.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that said family member also claims that gender affirming care for trans kids is "mutilation". (Never mind the fact that they generally don't do surgery until they're 18, but transphobes all seem to believe it's the go to option...)

Your legally can’t get a surgery like that until 14 with parental consent anywhere in the country lmao. I’d talk to that family member about where he’s getting that info.

@@etherweb6796 considering my step bro is trans, went through it as a teen and is now much happier, healthier and overall brighter then ever disagrees with your bigotry.

Uh no. If you tell a mandated reporter that you are being abused. That HAS to get reported to CPS. Whether CPS does anything or not depends but its not because "kids are property". Animals are considered property and theyll be taken away if abuse is proven.

@@TrueEnergizerBunnies Click Per Seconds? I get average score with Cookie Clicker, y'know.

"My parents won't let me hang out in a bar past 10:00. Waaah."

@@davidarvingumazon5024 Child Protection Services.

​@@TrueEnergizerBunnies "Whether CPS does anything or not depends" And that there is precisely the problem. You can report all you want, but if the authorities are going to do fuck-all then none of it matters.

Except children's humanity is being respected and you literally just said nothing. You can't even explain in what way children are being disrespected, like, according to you radical left wingers literally raising your children at all or teaching them anything at all is a form of abuse. Unless of course it's YOU, teaching them YOUR beliefs... then it's holy work.

So how old do they need to be before you molest them? That's where this logically ends up. So what is it pedophile? Do you have any human decency left?

It's... been this way for centuries. Children being treated as property is, unfortunately, fundamental to our culture.

@@rhael42 Its necessary. You're making no argument other than the obvious. If pedophiles get children "liberated" they can rape them freely. You people are genuinely evil. You should see this is where this is pushing from the fucking *STARTING LINE!* Troons were just a trojan horse to get the pedophiles teed up for a hole in one.

@@rhael42 Right. Because as property of their parents, they have protection from these weird creepy perverts who are fighting for "child autonomy" for very sick, disgusting reasons.

100%

As opposed to the government's property.

@@me-myself-i787 no jackass, as opposed to human beings who are in the _care_ of their parents, not the _property_ of their parents. You know, because they’re _actual fucking human beings_ and not god damned property. You are a steward of your children, to borrow from Christian imagery. A steward came make important decisions about something in their control, but no one is under any illusions of them _owning_ said thing. If anyone “owns” someone it’s the self, so you are stewarded by your parents until you can claim yourself, but you are never _owned_ by them and they can abuse their power in a way that forfeits their right to control.

It's interestingly similar to the "state's rights" arguments.

@@me-myself-i787 Do you honestly think you said something clever there?

Funny how "parents' rights" so often goes against the rights of parents like yours to support their children

@ninjoshday precisely! They take away the choice to let their kids explore and make the decision for them :/

So, they were OK with you playing with metal objects in electrical outlets? Did they let you run in the road so you could explore being hit by a car? Part of the job of a parent is to protect and guide that child until the child is old enough and experienced enough to make those decisions.

​@@BryanTorok what a fucking strawman

⁠​⁠@@BryanTorokscream is talking about normal teenage behavior: mostly rebelling against society’s norms and exploring how they fit into various aspects of this society. You’re talking about putting metal objects into high voltage AC lines. You do realize these are not the same thing…right? You do realize how belittling you’re being…right?

"OHH! Hey I've seen this one before!..." 🤣 Me too but damn, that reaction is funny. In a twisted wow that never should have happened kinda way.

@@spiderqueen6865 agreed. talk about looking into a mirror

Funny how it's always people raised with abuse that want the state to be their stand in parental figure.

these conservatives steal our words and re-define them to hide what they really want to do ... abuse. That's the real word that they are trying to hide under "Parental control"? Sure..you have control as a parent. You get to dictate meals and timing and activity. You get to control the environment so that random strangers can't enter. Just approved guest list. But that's what you do for a 5 year old. Nobody remains 5 years old. This is absurd levels of controlling abusive behavior that one would never tolerate as an adult. It's just a clever marketing game so that the other people don't really realize what it is. It's definitely unhealthy behavior. It speaks to certain conditions in these parents that they would want to be so controlling and to not recognize their children's autonomy. The problem with this conservative theft of our words, either by removing them from the public square or re-defining them, is that without words, how can we call out evil?

I had a slightly different experience because mine was far more about manipulation and was never as open as what you're describing. But I dont think I am ever going to stop being mad at them for thinking they know better about myself than I do. Nor being mad at other people who think the same of their kids. I dont understand how someone can grow up as a child and then go on and do this stuff later. Hot take: children have the same fucking rights as adults besides voting and that kinda stuff.

I hope you're alright ❤

Fuck, I'm trans and damnit, the fact that there are so many selfish people who do nothing but hate will be the death of us all.

​@@twilightsilver6230we can change that I hope

@@miajajajajajajajajajo when the boomer generation dies, there will be less of them. and then we can start making laws that treat us like equals. that will be the start, i hope.

I'm so heartbroken to hear that. Maybe trying to set up a community for queer people, particularly queer youth, is a good idea. Maybe that could be a way for your trapped friends to escape. Pool your resources. I hope things become better for all of you. * hugs from across the pond *

Bro gets it

You've seen it hmm?

I don’t think that’s the reason why. I think it’s a very, very unfortunate consequence among many other very, very unfortunate consequences of hundreds of years of repression when it comes to even the mere mention of sex or sexuality

​@@thefisherking2268That is exactly the point of the concerted efforts to repress sexual discussions and sexuality. To hide abuse and make it easy, mostly the through the Church, also in schools, but most importantly at home.

You're correct

You are, but raising free thinkers also means making sure they're able to hear opposing views from what you believe and allowing your kid to make their own decision on what is right and what isn't. With education, it's apart of that, but also educating the child on specific subjects, which is something you as a parent should not have a right in determining unless you yourself have a masters in teaching.

​@@jish55There doesn't seem to be any lack of opportunity for kids to hear right-wing and far-right views, though. Even in the deep blue state where I live, people are literally screaming these views through loudspeakers on street corners and waving signs at passing cars, telling children what vile abominations they are for being different. And that's not touching the right-wing channels on social media actively marketing themselves to kids. If parents are more left-leaning and their kids go outside or online at any point, those kids will be exposed to alternate viewpoints. These views aren't popular among most kids here (at least, not the ones I know), but I can't blame them for disagreeing with screaming adults who tell them they're not really people.

If that were true you'd be making sure your homeschooling your children in the first place. But unfortunately many are not and are trying to have one foot in the door and one foot out. Which they absolutely have a right to dictate what is in the schools and what is being taught. Unfortunately part of what started The downfall of our public school system in the first place was that the majority of parents were now involved in broken families instead of nuclear families and did not have time to participate in deciding what their children were going to be learning. The public school is still funded by parents and their taxes so they definitely get a say since the school boards and the teachers and the librarians are public servants to the parents as well as their children. Personally I see a point in fighting against the atrocities of the school system even though I would not publicly school my children. But because of the fact that I don't want my children's peers to be brainwashed ignoramuses, or even worse to be harmed directly by these ideologies that are being pushed in public schools. TLDR: If not a hypocrite will fight the school system being led by sexists, racists, and pedophiles so that children forced to engage in the public school system can have a chance to learn as freely as possible. ❤

Parents from fundamentalist religion reject that notion out of hand. They view their children as mere extensions of themselves.

Between the 'parental rights' bullshit and the PC's official policy of "If you can get your victim's body into a landfill, we won't go looking for them", it's a dangerous time to be a Manitoban kid with bad parents...

Yikes.

I mean im in Aus & as a 10 year old I told a teacher I trusted exactly that. She proceeded to tell me she had to tell my parents because I was being harmed? (By my parents?) that it was duty of care. After screaming, crying, begging with her she called my parents, gave me a hug and sent me on my way. Gee I wonder if that lead to a productive discussion or literal hell on earth for the next month. No wonder why I have trust issues ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I would genuinely tell parents to suck shit through a straw. My brain actually starts to itch when I meet parents who don't deserve to die alone

Yeah, politicians will pander to their base instead of trying to solve real issues (looking at Quebec's premier, who wants to create a commission on gender neutral bathrooms in schools while we lack schools, teachers, food to feed the kids and a chunk of them have to work to support their family).

I don’t think so. If a parent has that kind of mindset, no amount of support network is going to change them. If they so much had to spend a dollar a day, they’d have the same argument. If they had to spend NOTHING, they’d argue that well, I let you stay in this house.

@@GrumpyOldFart2 Or "i had to go through labor for you" or "i had to care for you". Such parents are just kinda unfit to be parents ig

Perhaps it would remove the 'I paid to have you' -> 'I purchased you' link but, sadly, it wouldn't remove the mentality. People in countries with nationalised healthcare express similar sentiments using food, clothes, and housing as the excuse.

That argument holds no merit either way "I clothed you, gave you warmth, shelter and food." is the bare minimum, it's what you sign up for when you have a kid. It's like saying you're a great pet owner because you put your fish in water

@@PaKalsha yeah. Seems more linked to conservative beliefs imo

Such a thoughtful, gorgeously-written comment.... Thank you for sharing your experience with us all, and so eloquently as well! The line between guiding and forcing can be blurry at times, but it's heartwarming to hear that both sides of these clashes-not just the kids, but the parent as well-are striving to be accountable, recognizing and growing from your regrets and mistakes. ❤❤❤

No kidding! Kids are not what you think they'll be.

Kids are hard. My parents are pushing for me to have kids, but I’m just focusing on getting out of the house more to meet people socially so that is even possible. When they (or even if just one) are born while they grow up I will be learning too so we can both survive together. It sucks though because I am the least qualified of my family with the health stuff I got, but I want to help to support properly too. It’s odd that in the least socially capable yet I’m the most determined to help them be their own person and thinking of being a parent at all.

@@JoeWicke your kids should have power over what your kids think and you should learn to cope with the fact that they are not your property.

​@@JoeWicke Your kids are fully autonomous, individual human beings, you don't get to decide what they can and can't think. You're their parent, not their owner.

​@@JoeWickethey should have just as much control as you do, none.

On both sides of this debate people are trying to control kids, whether the parents or the State. They are vulnerable little minds up for grabs and somebody is going to train them and condition them. Being honest about what this battle is about is high pressure, I know, but then that's democracy. Do we believe in the sexual rights of parents, the power rights of the State or the rights of children to spit on all parties and go their own way? If it's the later they won't choose school attendance and they may find nobody feeding them unless we create a welfare system designed to care for such little independent thinkers. Foster homes are infamous for sexual abuse, or else maybe we could let them live on the streets like in Moscow and do sex work?

I don't know how many times I've had to tell people my child and I are very different people. You are there to give them the tools and support to navigate life on their terms NOT mold them into what you want.

Oh man and you're a perpetual teenager. So sorry to hear you're stuck. 🙈 LOL That explains a lot of this nonsense today.

​@@ari3lz3pp Congratulations on being the problem!

​@@ari3lz3ppHe's a perpetual teenager, what, because he remembers that experience and exercises sympathy and respect for people?

@@ari3lz3ppenjoy your life!

​@@ari3lz3pp Better than being a perpetual toddler

Can confirm that first hand. What's so great (sarcasm) is that they don't realize it.

YES! Children being treated like shown in this video makes me sick! Treating children like objects is disgusting!

Here to testify. The most superficial of superficial.

That's actually a really great observation! On the one hand, conservatives are saying "pro-life, no abortions"...but on the other hand, they're also saying "parents' rights, control (and even abuse!) your children"!!!

As the late great George Carlin put it, "If you're pre-born, you're fine. If you're preschool, you're fucked. Republicans want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers."

“If you’re pre-born, you’re fine. If you’re pre-school, you’re fucked!” - George Carlin

As one quote online puts it "[The unborn are]... the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus but actually dislike people who breathe."

Or the joke: "Life begins at conception, and ends at birth."

I guess you're right

As someone in the BDSM community I see it 100% as sexual assault of a minor. Absolutely disgusting.

@@anne-zh2kd Also apart of the BDSM community and I actually kind of struggle with the spanking as a fun thing in practice because I associate it to people being very very mad at me.

When people try to claim children can't be raised into proper adults without corporal punishment, I gladly tell them to look at my country, Sweden. It was the first to completely ban corporal punishment of children in the world, in 1979! Generations now exist who were _never_ exposed to it, and our society functions like any other. I find it so mind-boggling to see how normalized it still is in many other parts of the world.

I was born in 2010 and I still remember my mom spanking me. She probably stopped around the time I was 5, but until very recently it was considered normal to do.

this is so right, not to mention how even verbal abuse can influence in the same way. They're both manipulation and gaslighting, just in 2 different ways

2 things. First, why would you assume it's only conservatives who hit their kids? Cause... as a teacher I can tell you it's not. Secondly, you know the government kinda just does tell you "shut up and do this" sometimes? Like, with taxes, covid lockdowns, etc. Sometimes it's right, sometimes it's wrong, but the government is not infallible like the vietnam or war in iraq or mk ultra. Like many things there are lots of things where the answer is the somewhere in the middle of the road and not necessarily black and white. Fact of the matter is not all kuds are the same and some need some level of control or they ruin their education not just for themselves but for others too. But that doesn't mean all control is good either. Basically not everything is all black and white and you really can't just say it's one or the other, ya know?

@@unnamedminus I can guarantee, child abuse is heavily skewed towards neoliberals (conservatives and liberals), than progressives.

I would say that the issue isn't the physical punishment, it's the intent to inflict pain, the setting your child up to fear you, the punishing with emotion instead of calm. My parents would spank me, but they'd also sit down and have conversations about what would earn me a spanking, how I'd acted that had earned me a spanking, why what I did was important, etc. I believe some sort of punishment is necessary for any child for them to grow up and physical has some great advantages over social and emotional punishments, but I really don't care about which type of punishment happens nearly as much as I care about how those punishments are determined, administered, and discussed afterwards. I'm honestly grateful my parents leaned into physical punishments. But I'm even more grateful that they generally punished with calm, reason, and love.

​@@jaredwonnacott9732big agree, actions can have negative or positive consequences even if its the same action. Context is very important. Murder and self defense are 2 sides of the same coin, but the context behind them changes things very drastically.

So when arguing for school lunch on the grounds of think of the children. People are really arguing that we should think of the parents? Even when they do so as a person without children in a tax bracket that will need to pay more to provide the lunches?

@@nics4967 Sorry for the misunderstanding; I'm indicating the most common rhetoric of "think of the children" is applied to things like censorship and anti-lgbtq+ legislation rather than things like school lunch or really anything that makes life easier and better for children.

I just pictured the simpsons meme and i giggled

@@nics4967stop pretending to care. You’re just arguing to argue.

I dare not ask these parent's opinions on the 13th amendment.

Same. I don't know if I had the best that conservative christian parenting had to offer, but I sure as shit know that it was *FAR* from the worst.

I find it amazing that this generation finds it appalling when they have push back on decisions they make that are against a families tradition but at the same time demonize the same decision they family makes when they don't agree with the decision or beliefs of said family. Sounds like hypocrisy from both sides.

I highly disagree with a lot of things this RU-vidr stands for but I also don’t like people who defeat the purpose of conservatism by being lunatics. With that said I want to say I admire you for not being afraid to think on your own as well as your parents for being Christlike.

@@SinoLegionaire every side has lunatics. This youtuber included. Would you trust this loon to do law for you?

@@WillieBrownsWeiner which loon? Zoe Bee? No I would not I greatly disagree with her. I’m here to learn what the polar opposite of me believes in and why the believe in the things they do

You can respond the same way too-"Parent's rights to do *what*?" Edit: lmao made this right before I watched the video

The way they view children is essentially as slaves. They see children as slaves, only to people who they are related to

​@@godofbooks"Parents' rights to do what? What do you wanna use those rights for? You usually don't mention that part, I wanna hear it, I wanna hear what you wanna do with them." Very accurate, ngl

Yeah it does😂 conservatives are nuts.

That’s because it follows the same logical line as many similar situations. They wield the idea of their rights as a weapon to take away the rights of others, because they’re entitled (despite their claims that it is in fact their opponents that are entitled), and believe that they deserve their idea of their own rights should supersede the actual rights of others. Parents rights to take away the rights of children and educators, States rights to take away the rights of black people. Apple didn’t fall far from the tree.

I’m not really familiar with American history and politics, but didn’t the slogan “states’ rights” have much the same function at the time of the Civil War?

@@joeharris2659you would be absolutely correct! It’s almost as though there is a distinct pattern of using the idea of empowerment of one group as an excuse to diminish those of another.

@@joeharris2659 "States rights" was after the civil war. The South rebelled AGAINST states rights; they kept passing federal laws to force northern states to return escaped slaves, but the North just ignored them. They flipped to "states rights" after losing control of the federal government(northern states were not united before the war). Well okay, that is a bit of an over simplification. The South started the war as a result of the gradual lose of control of the federal government and the election of Lincoln was the last straw.

@@Amir_404 you keep fighting this fight. the truth is more important, it just serves my own ends that the truth oft shows I'm usually right about the horrid monsters that are in charge of things.

​@@ohmygoditisspider7953No idea what you're saying here

@@007kingifritso there’s this cool thing called not having to lie about who you are

@thatmtnerd could u switch churches? also if your mom still attends AND forces you to (which I believe you implied) I wonder if she really acts like a true ally...

I found out long ago that there is no hatred in the world quite as vehement as Christian 'love.'

​@@SleeplessRoninNot all of cristendom is bad! Just, a lot. I am thoroughly Christian and go to a very devout catholic church, and its bloody grand for me and other LGBTQ members

It seems to me there are some Christians that just take the parts they like and don’t focus as much as the hatred, judgement, and rapture stuff. If the church they attend is too focused on that they should probably find a new one.

Stop being queer then.

I'd suspect the reason is probably the fear mongering you see in videos like this. Schools and Teachers who advocate hiding things from parents are backing the wrong horse - this opens kids up to abuse from any teacher or staff member at school and parents who want to protect their children from harm would have no idea, and the school would just write it off as "bad parents"

Why is a kid thinking about their sexual identity if the parent didn't talk to the kid about it? Bc the teachers did. No bueno

@@diamondrg3556 shit, somebody's got to do it.

​@@diamondrg3556 kids aren't told to be queer, they are taught that queer people exist and thats ok. If a kid only knows and sees around him/her straight people and that is considered the norm that queer kid will feel much better talking to someone who says it ok rather than someone who doesn't discus it at all or in some cases even demonized that. Thats what the first commenter ment The way you phrased your response (correct me if I'm wrong) makes it seem like teachers are telling kids to be queer.

They do say "it takes a village to raise a child". The people who lack any understanding and reject any opinion that's not their own, those people have such a disrespect of humanity......

"Owning" a child means you care for your own feelings and wellbeing first and foremost. "Being responsible for" a child means you care for the CHILD's feelings and wellbeing first and foremost.

I own my pet snake and I still give her more love and respect than these people give their children (I do call her dumb, but in my defense, she really is. She once got stuck in a toilet paper roll, and when I tried to help her, she actively fought against me. She's so dumb. I love her so much.)

@@sophiedowney1077 "Snakes are cute but not very bright." - Emily from Snake discovery

@@johannageisel5390 it's so true. She once escaped from right in front of me and I didn't notice, so I tore up my room trying to find her after I realized she was gone. I couldn't find her so I cried myself to sleep that night. The next morning I found her ice cold and hiding under the dryer. It wasn't even running that day. It was freezing from the start! And she thought, "yes, this is a good place to sleep. It is cold and the dust bunnies are big . I can eat the bunnies if I get hungry. I am sneaky snek. Hehe."

As a current child, (teen technically) yea, that's already causing problems between me and my mom because I differ in views a LOT, thank goodness someone pointed this out.

I recommend you check out the play "A Doll's House" by Henrik Ibsen. It literally describes EXACTLY what you are saying right down to the metaphor of the doll. It's so fitting especially if you're a girl and/or AFAB.

Why do your views differ? Because the public school system planted foreign ideologies in your head?

@@electrifyingct4303 Ex christian and fundamentalist, need I say more, ok, I'm the ex christian.

@@Thetexianheathen Good for you. Shows to everyone that you are weak.

See, that right there says Zoe Bee is out of her mind when she makes SO many implications in her video that parents mostly want to own their children. I never wanted to own my son. I've only got a few more years with him before he moves away on his own. I want him to think, "You know, my dad didn't always agree with me, and sometimes he wouldn't let me do the things I wanted to do, but I know he always had my best interests at heart, and wanted me to grow up as a man who can choose whatever road he wants, but preferably a road with wisdom and peace."

@@theboombody : In that case, you are not like a significant number of parents.

@@theboombody For the most part she's right, parents like you are incredibly rare and you would do well to understand and remember that.

What is on it?

Gotta love that Good Ol’ US of A BS

@@headphonesaxolotl www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R40484/25%23:~:text%3DIt%2520defines%2520a%2520child%2520as,and%2520freedom%2520from%2520exploitation%252C%2520torture%252C&ved=2ahUKEwim17HzuMmBAxVjnokEHRreAR4QFnoECA0QBg&usg=AOvVaw3IunjgkmcQ0rIBGMDgpOB6

@@headphonesaxolotl the right to food, medical, safety, freedom of expression, a good education, and a few other things

@@victoriajankowski1197 Alright, sounds pretty good.

@@JoeWicke It's almost like someone's rights have nothing to do with their faculties, that's the whole fucking point see, you have the right to comment whatever the fuck you want, regardless of how asinine it is.

​​@@hagoryopi2101their right to basic physical care has never been established in the United States

​@@JoeWickeYou remember being a child right? Surely you must have had moments where a parent's actions went against your best interest? Children aren't animals or automations. They have feelings and thoughts. I often meet kids that think more intuitively than most adults I've met 😂

@@JoeWicke Children have rights that are stated by the United Nations.

​@@hagoryopi2101american republicans have consistently fought against children's rights to food and healthcare.

TO TRAIN UP A CHILD?! AAAAAGH!

god a controlled worldview; what are the parents suddenly gods that control people?!?

AGREED, forcing your child to treat you like a manager is ridiculous. Parenting isnt professional 😭😭😭

Good point. Honestly, I'm from Texas, where calling people "sir" and "ma'am" is considered normal, and even I would feel weird calling my dad "sir". Lol and I think my dad would probably make fun of me if I did start calling him sir. I just call my parents "mom" and "dad". 🤷‍♀️

Those and the men who are very vocal about only wanting kids because they want to "pass on their genes" by having a biological child (usually a son). They don't want a child, they want a tiny clone of themselves that they can live vicariously through, and they'll get downright abusive when that clone doesn't act "right"

Life has taken my family around the USA and we did a year in “the south”. Strangest thing ever when my daughter came home from pre k and yes ma’amed me. I got that transitioned to “yes please” in a hurry. To me, Sir and Ma’am are formal terms of respect - a type that one must earn. You don’t get it just by being alive and present - that goes for strangers and doubly so for myself and other parents. I hope my daughter never sees me with such formality and whether or not she wants to extend that label to someone else will ultimately be her choice - not some engrained habit to stroke some stranger’s ego.

​@ville__WHAT THE FUCK DUDE, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU

hope you're doing alright.

cringe

​@@anonymousonyx7755"Cringe" says "anonymous onyx", probably a middle aged engeneer. Lol grow up

​@@anonymousonyx7755imagine saying cringe to a school child about there gender. You are a loser do better

@@AA-cf4es mimimimi I'm dumb and have never read 1 book In my entire life mimimimi (that's how you sond)

​@@null009Wrong.

@@Afgrahamistan You've convinced me.

@thebearingedge In this case, the child wouldn't have either. There were no such insecurities or uncertainties a mere 20 years ago, and if there were, they weren't rampant as they are today. Really makes you think why that is.

​@@null009because they weren't accepted or taught as widely, and people feared being killed and completely ostracized a lot more??

@@Jaesdaes Didn't happen lol. Stop living in an alternate dimension.

@sr-oj9ev How do they not see what's wrong with this? How are they teaching this to other parents? Do they actually think they're impacting the world positively by doing this?

​@@bluedye4087yes. All they see is a child saying exactly what they want to hear, perfectly confirming their beliefs. They don't see the hurt.

it can also be because schools manipulate children and if you think thats silly you dont understand why schools exist in the first place and it wasnt to teach children but to indoctrinate children to be servants of the state a horrifying example of that is the HJ that indoctrinate children so much that they snitched on their parents to be loyal

​@@laisphinto6372missing the point entirely 🤦‍♂️

Yup, if a teacher is more trustworthy then you fucked up as a parent

They think that if the kid's keeping secrets it is becausw The Child Is Evil not because The Parents Aren't Trusted.

​@@youtubeuniversity3638 The best part about that, is that even if they're right, that means they're a terrible parent.

I'm glad someone else put this into words because I was having threads of thoughts along these lines that I was struggling to coalesce. Society in general is lacking in relationship and autonomy models that aren't economically productive. It's basically, either you work and pay for your everything yourself, and therefore are an autonomous person worthy of agency, or you're not and thus must be controlled, monitored, pathologized, or institutionalized. Think disabled people, the elderly, the mentally ill, the unhoused, prisoners, and even the unemployed. Children, right now, fit into this.

This is a great articulation of how children should be viewed

Yeah... these people aren't great about disability, either.... 😬

But this is also a bad wording. You focus the negative part of being a child instead of on the positive side of being young and growing up.

Yes please.

It's important to note that children can't be consenting human beings and need legal guardians to make decisions for them, so every bit of power taken away from those legal guardians (in the name of children's rights) necessarily empowers the state. The dynamic will always be between parents and the state since both will argue on behalf (and for from their viewpoints) of children and their rights.

Yes to protect them from lgbtq

@@8is And as anyone knows from history, to cede more power to the government, and their employees trusting their good intentions is the most catastrophically naive thing one can do.

@@8is You're not wrong but I don't consider that a bad thing. Having absolute parental power will further increase the atomization in society.

Wait I thought its pretty normal for schools to tell parents how their kids are doing (?)

I think most grown ups forgot at some point. Some probably never really cognised what had happened to them when they were younger, and others likely are of the mindset that if they had to suffer it then everyone else must too. The world of childhood is so drastically different to the world of adulthood that, like the memories of what we dream as we sleep, the memories of being helpless at the hands of grownups just vanish like mist under the morning sun. I, personally, swore to myself that I wouldn't forget the feeling of being a slave to my parents' whims. I hope I can keep that promise and live to do something about the state of childhood as it is now.

You weren’t the only one, but a LOT of people cope with the trauma and abuse they faced by constructing a worldview that says that sort of trauma and abuse is helpful and even useful. This is especially easy when such a view aligns with the dominant views of their culture.

I go out of my way to be kind and patient with children, to advocate for them, because I *CAN'T forget what it was like to be a child.* Nobody should have to go through that, and if I can make a positive impact on even *just one* young person's life, then I did something right.

I don't get it either

They tell themselves they deserved it and so will their kids

That sounds awful, I'm sorry you had to go through that.

Sounds awful. So sorry and please get therapy and heal. My parents used corporal punishment aswell and I was physically punished by a teacher too and they just let that happen in the UK where it's illegal 😢

Guys. It's corporeal. As in relating to the body. Not corporal. That's a military rank.

I'm so sorry you had to deal with that. What you say about masking after your dad shouted at you and being afraid of your parents' reaction after the incident puts a new light on my own reactions to my parents when I was young. Thank you for sharing, and for provoking that insight.

Thanks to my father and his spanking I've had to get over my fear of men, especially larger men

I wish so much more people shared this sentiment

@@daisymurphy6832 i think most people do.

…you hang in there. Florida is a tough place to be a teacher right now….

OMG SAME WITH ME. I am so sorry that your autism diagnosis was so late, I was 11 when I got diagnosed. I am also in college, I am 18 and a freshman. I still live with them. I do wonder that too. my mom does still have nothing nice to say but she isn't kind to my father either. I hope you are doing ok now, friendo 🙏🏻

@@bethanyboarder7751 I hope the same for you.

@@caseyw1288 Thank you. I will have you know I'm doing well in my classes, I have a decent job and have made a record viewer count on my latest video. I am grateful for the friends, the teachers, the psychiatrist, and my support group on reddit for helping me along the way because my parents sucked. I hope you found your selected family, and if you did, be grateful, others dont have it. 😊

"""rationalize"""

@@jarofapplesaucelol, because "delusionalize" isn't a word so I had to do with that instead. 😆

It’s the sad result of a very long chain of the majority of people being raised by bad parents who were raised by bad parents who were raised by bad parents ad infinitum. I think it’s a safe bet that the ratio of bad parents to good parents is in the neighborhood of 60/40 or worse.

So true and this is why Elon is so pissed at his daughter for transitioning. She doesn't feel his compulsion to put X on everything or produce 10 kids and counting

You described my father to a T.

It's control. :(

LITERALLY! Time and time again we see that those who are the loudest & most vocal about “saving the children” are usually doing the most harm &/or covering heinous child abuse in their wake. The “#savethechildren” trend was started by a guy found with CP. the new Sound Of Freedom movie was made by a guy who’s accused of trafficking kids / abusing victims of trafficking. People who are against teaching lgbtq+ topics are just afraid their kid will be gay & break from the control of the church. Those who want to keep sex Ed out of schools are more than likely groomers. It’s just sad.

Also, STI are becoming resistant to antibiotics, I believe it’s because too damn many people don’t know how to prevent them beyond “condom”. Heaven help you if you get an antibiotic resistant STI, you are going to be in a world of hurt.

I mean age appropriate is the big qualifier here. People tend to disagree on what that means

@@badart3204 not really. The right just lies about what’s covered or doesn’t care.I’m from Washington state and we passed a big sex Ed expansion a while ago and fuuuck me but it was lied about to high heaven by the right. The content don’t matter, they oppose it no matter what. There is no good faith disagreement on content.

You're only 13yrs old but what you're saying is what I've felt from day one of all my memories... you spoke ALL of it with far more brevity than I've achieved in a lonnnng time

Me too...

I'm turning into an adult this year but I get it, I'm really concerned with how entitled adults feel with their own chikdren These people want clones, not children

A screw isn't hit w/ a hammer

I am 20 and feeling completely disarrayed and paralyzed. Nothing can really help now, it seems. Dream big, kid. Achieve more than the "smawt ahduwts" around you. Be better than me.

You're going to get out of there someday, and to a place you can be yourself. I'm sorry they're like this.

Speaking as a neurodivergent person who lived with a controlling and toxic stepmother for several years: There is nothing 'kind' or 'loving' about a controlling relationship like this. Providing kindness on the condition that you change who you are as a person is a manipulative tactic designed to strip you of your autonomy. I don't know you and I don't know your backstory, but calling them kind or loving in earnest both serves as a form of denial and to enable their toxic behavior.

I don't think so. With "CRT" yeah they want to hide facts, but with trans the fact r in (their mind) still on their side. On this side of the debate gender is based on biological markers and the existence of trans and non binary don't disprove that.

literally what i was thinking lmao

Ngl, this made me giggle, thank you, as a trans person who's about to be a parent, I needed this little laugh.

There was recently a major court case about a lot of actual parents about the lack of transparency regarding the book bans. Many of the banned books were not discussed and parents weren't even informed. MFL just infiltrated the school board and removes books behind people's backs.

Feudalists also push kids - and i do mean kids - into physically replicating as soon as possible; feudalist parents have such tight control over what children in their circle learn, that being autonomous people who can think for themselves is effectively impossible. By chaining these barely-grown-children to the replication treadmill, feudalists ensure nobody will ever learn enough to question.

also, why do you want power as a parent? what- you gonna rise from the grave and spank your kid until they die?

And then the shampoo bottles clapped.

They did learn it from Goebbels

I do not admire people who have malicious abilities.

It makes it way more evil since they KNOW what is good and what is popular and that they have to mask themselves as that to do the complete opposite, the right to work bill that busts workers unions, The patriot act that spies on its citizens, the womens rights act that actually just harms women. The list goes on

Accusation is confession.

Helps to have the DEEPEST pockets to come up with this stuff.

Give those kids an out when you can, invite them over to your house for as long and as often as you can. It’s not your responsibility but your opportunity.

Our definition of "responsibility" is often just a reflection of our cultural upbringings and worst qualities.

I had to run away from home to save myself at the age of 14. I left a group of siblings behind and to this day feel guilty about it. Since then, one committed suicide, one died of alcohol poisoning and a third has become as mean and violet as my parents were and is routinely hauled off by the police for domestic violence. I feel your pain and I have no answers.

You can't fix the home you are leaving, but you can be there to catch your younger siblings when they're ready to leave, too.

Not buying you ran out on your parents and gave into sexual perversion.

"Zoe Bee CANCELS SOCRATES???"

@@zoe_bee I'm sorry; I am wrong! It turns out this conversation was in Meno (also by Plato). I think I didn't realize that the excerpt we read in class was from a different work. Anyway, MIT apparently has a classics archive that contains The Republic and also Meno, if you want to read them. The passage in Meno begins about two-fifths into the text. It's a discussion of finding the square of a number to determine the area of a space with measured sides.

@@zoe_bee 🤣

@@LaCafedora Very interesting, will have to check it out.

Damn I just turned 19 I'm afraid to cut my hair like I always dreamt of because apparently my hair is no mine, it's my mother's... One day, one day... The dehumanization doesn't seem to stop once we reach adulthood😢

It's most specifically abou Christian Right supremacism through ignocation and control over education of *everyone* to the extent they can't destroy it completely. THey aren't shy about this.

Also restricting the material other parents have acces to for their kids. It's not enough that their kids must be conservative, other parents children must be as well

Yep.

Am a prior teacher, and can confirm that all the students whose parents held these ideals were either the meekest, most anxious kids who would hyperventilate if they strayed from perfection, or were very antagonistic and often got in trouble in school because they didn't trust adults to have their best interests in mind. They either try to be the perfect angels their parents want and inevitably fail, or realize it's messed up and throw all caution to the wind because they know they can't or won't meet the expectations put on them. They get punished either way. I can't imagine being so incredibly self absorbed and detached as to put my notional child through that.

You're a liar. Leftists are all degenerates and perverts and criminals.

Yeah, parents - no rights, only responsibilities. Kids - only rights, no responsibilities. Keep that coming, it will be fun to see what will come of it in next 20 years

@@gene6224 Kids can't have responsibilities if they haven't been given any rights now, can they? A parent *chose* to have the child, the child didn't choose to be born.

​@@gene6224is homework and chores not responsibility?

@@DrApocalyptus he’s talking parents have no rights, only responsibilities. Why is that? I agree with you that kids shouldn’t have any responsibilities unless they have some rights. But the point that parents should only have responsibilities and to had absolutely no power over his kid is laughable. You can’t just let a kid to do whatever he wants - this isn’t parenting, it’s kids raising themselves. Also it’s funny as hell to see some folks here implying kids in US have no rights. Your country is literally the one with most privileged and entitled kids. Once again - we’ll see what happens in 20 years with all unsupervised kids making some life altering decisions while they’re still struggling with hormone explosion. And somehow some of these decisions doesn’t count as “genital mutilation” mentioned by OP. Also how the first sentence of yours connected with the second one? Again - as an outsider - US kids have tons of rights and diminishing amount of responsibilities. But how does it connects to the second part anyway? No shit, you chose to bring a child into the world and this fact doesn’t give you some ultimate power over them. They’re their own people and should make their own choices and their own mistakes. But there is a line. There are some decisions only adult should make - because it’s a parent responsible for the child until they’re legally adult. It’s not like teenagers gonna simply comply anyway. But you wanna change that - fine, remove all rights and responsibilities from parents and give it to the kids. But somehow you would be against it when kids will have to make their own living. Ah yes, only responsibilities for parents, right.

@@samtheultimateinformant537 they are, but you didn’t get my message? My point is that’s it’s laughable when someone saying that parents have only responsibilities and no rights. I’ve extended it a bit further, cause seems like same people think kids only should have rights and no responsibilities. And I mean, isn’t there kids who think they shouldn’t do chores and homework cause their parents have no right to make them do it, and who call it an abuse?

You used the term bigotry. What bigotry is there in the bills and laws in Florida?

@@gogeta667 Use the context clues, my friend. The post states outright examples of it already.

As a high schooler I couldn’t have stated it better myself

I was born and raised in Florida. I was lucky to graduate in the 90's so I actually got a good education. However, I saw the horrors coming out of Tallahassee and got the heck out a few years ago. I will NEVER go back. Thanks for a great post.

but it also involves indoctrinating them into this anti parenting agenda, ah yes we all know a 5 year old can look after themselves Fucking americans sometimes look after your fucking children, this includes discipline! If God allows me to one day have a kid I won't be falling down this retarded rabbithole like what i almost did as a child and young teenager thanks to my country's government's attempts at propaganda, a light smack hurt noone, its not child abuse to educate them whats wrong and right, its called P A R E N T I N G

My daughters grades have dropped in every subject since she learnt that she is actually a boy. Thinking for yourself doesn't help if you don't understand anything.

​@@keycuzCan you clarify what you mean?

@keycuz It could be his grades are dropping because they're dealing with the emotional stress of struggling with their identity and that you'll not accept them anymore. The fear of rejection by his parents could very well be a bigger part in their grades dropping since it's pretty clear you are at the very least extremely reluctant about the topic. You should have a sit down and genuinely ask them if they're afraid your love is conditional on them being who you want them to be. Trust me, it might be good for you both.

​@@burningsnow9870 blue white player, you're alright

From the same party that has fought tooth and nail to prevent underage girls from getting abortions with their parents permission

if they dont need permission to get pregnant they shouldnt need permission to get an abortion

Conservatives live in a world where fathers never rape their own daughters so this will be fine!

​@@Batsybludon't give them more ideas

Well considering the fact that children should not be having sex, So if they are they're probably being neglected and/or abused at home anyway.... But if they're being sexually abused at home their parents would definitely be in favor of abortion because that could more easily remove the threat of them getting caught. Especially if they can claim that they were completely ignorant to this happening in the first place since their child does not need parental consent. I'm definitely against child abuse as well as sexual abuse to anybody. I'm also against murder. You seem to be insinuating that you do not feel the same way but I hope that you thoroughly educate yourself and open your mind to the truth. ❤

It's unrelated to the video, but it's so horrible that so many people see the right response to neurodivergence to be "how do I best make this thing no longer a burden to me?" instead of "how do I help this person?"

As a neurodivergant teen and also a half decent human being, this story made me really angry and sad, I'm really sorry you had to go through that hell.

@@chris135xyeah it’s not surprising but it sure is disappointing, so we want to change that. did you watch the video? i don’t think anyone’s surprised here lmao

I'm sorry that this happened to ya, fellow ND 🫂 You deserved better.

​@@chris135xboth are problems

Those awful laws are already in Canada. Saskatchewan and New-Brunswick now force schools to out trans kids to their parents, and Alberta will most definitely follow suit. Those ideologies know no borders.

I hope where you live stays safe. Some provinces have caved to this parents rights bs, they made it so in some cases teachers have to tell parents.

​@@sodabread7956I'm optimistic that those current laws can't stand for long: Canada is a signatory to the UN declaration on rights of the child, which means (according to video by law prof at U of A) that "parent's rights" really don't exist here: it's all about what's right for the child. Here's hoping for legal challenges soon! 🤞 Edit: er, Moe in SK is invoking the notwithstanding clause (for THIS?! I'd say bye-bye democracy, but thankfully, the right to vote is one right that CANNOT be notwithstanding'd), so I'm amending this to say... I really hope that international Treaties cannot be notwithstanding'd, but am not a lawyer, haven't heard a lawyer comment, and from my search results: I don't think it's been tested. 😬

Assert those rights for yourself such that eventually everyone will be liberated from the ideas of the binary "adult" and "child". But yeah, what you say is good too.

​@@marioksoresalhillick299found the groomer ^

No. No. No.

No, no, and no

Yes, no, no.

1, Depends. REALLY depends, on a lot of factors. What I can say no to emphatically here is "does the foetus have more rights than the mother carrying them?" That is an absolute no!!! If the mother: doesn't want to carry the foetus, isn't safe to carry the foetus (anything from medical to trauma reasons), & so on, then she (a mother could be a trans man, intersex, or non-binary but is more likely to be she) shouldn't have to carry said foetus to term. However, a WANTED foetus will be grieved like a baby is grieved when lost, & this, too, must be respected. 2, ABSOLUTELY NO!!! Under any circumstances. Slavery is one of the WORST evils ever. I can't even stand anybody saying "the person that" when "the person who" is more humanising & grammatically correct. Even the slightest implication that a person is comparable to an object abhors me, & as a cis woman, I've experienced that a LOT. All women, POC, LGBTQ+, the disabled, the neurodivergent, & others considered not "normal allocishet white rich men" have experienced this, & I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. 3, much less a child. BIG NOPE. Children are a RESPONSIBILITY, not a right. Grandchildren are also a responsibility, not a right. Parents are the stewards, caretakers, housekeepers, janitors, of their children. NOT their fascist dictators

Not until a at least 3rd month, no and no.