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What's Difference between 7/8 and 7/4? 

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@love_to_learn_drums
@love_to_learn_drums Год назад
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@ElliotPickler-sg2ed
@ElliotPickler-sg2ed 7 месяцев назад
Very cool thank you I've played drums for years and never understood it but you just made that really easy to understand ..awesome!✌️😎
@haxb4fax
@haxb4fax Год назад
7/4 feels like some combination of 4/4 + 3/4, while 7/8 feels like a 4/4 that gets cut off one 8th early
@puturro
@puturro 11 месяцев назад
Yes. But also playing the 7/8 while saying "1234-123" helps a Lot
@jurytortoise5396
@jurytortoise5396 11 месяцев назад
​@@puturroi find it much easier to just count it 1 2 3 and 1 2 3 and
@i_jetlag
@i_jetlag 11 месяцев назад
​​​@@jurytortoise5396 how does that work eh? That's 6/8. "and" is just a sixteenth note (considering each count is a beat) you chose to count while not counting the "and" between 1 2. But the and is still there it's still there. "1 2 3 and 1 2 3 and" would just be "8th note, 8th note, two 16th notes 8th note, 8th note, two 16th notes" And that's not 7/8.
@jurytortoise5396
@jurytortoise5396 11 месяцев назад
@@i_jetlag would you prefer me to say 1 2 3 4-? It was an easy way to put it into words, because i just cut off both ands of the fours. I say and because its like having half of a beat at the end instead of a full beat and didn't know how else to differentiate it
@evergreenartifact515
@evergreenartifact515 11 месяцев назад
Spot on
@RRFTB
@RRFTB Год назад
You had me at betwixt.
@Dimera09
@Dimera09 11 месяцев назад
I was about to say that myself. I instantly subscribed lol
@raybombs
@raybombs 10 месяцев назад
Same
@AmeliaRay
@AmeliaRay 10 месяцев назад
Me, too!
@danielblaise156
@danielblaise156 9 месяцев назад
She had me with the David Gilmour shirt ❤
@riccocool
@riccocool 9 месяцев назад
My favorite candy bar
@alsonolan
@alsonolan 11 месяцев назад
It also helps to count "sev" instead of "seven" to prevent yourself from falling into 8/8 or 4/4.
@kanibo0402
@kanibo0402 10 месяцев назад
This is the way violas count a 7/8 or 7/4 bar 🤭
@Calakapepe
@Calakapepe 10 месяцев назад
I go for just "seh"
@6feetunderpants
@6feetunderpants 10 месяцев назад
I say "taco taco burrito". 🌮🌮🌯🌮🌮🌯🌮🌮🌯🌮🌮🌯, etc.
@duchadang
@duchadang 10 месяцев назад
That's nice! Thanks.
@lungandfoot
@lungandfoot 9 месяцев назад
@@6feetunderpantsthis is brilliant. Thanks!
@JacubWhite38
@JacubWhite38 9 месяцев назад
Her voice makes it feel like I'm getting a drum lesson from a fairy tail and I love it.
@love_to_learn_drums
@love_to_learn_drums 9 месяцев назад
*sprinkles fairy dust*
@ThisUsernameSystemF-ckingSucks
@ThisUsernameSystemF-ckingSucks 8 месяцев назад
A fairy's tail?
@Urbaez22
@Urbaez22 5 месяцев назад
I was thinking exactly that, mate.. ❤
@AKcelsior
@AKcelsior Месяц назад
I had no idea fairies had tails. 🤔
@carlosferreira9873
@carlosferreira9873 Год назад
Yea, of course in the same context they are different. But it is possible to have a 7/8 piece written in 7/4 and vice versa, just double/half the tempo and adjust the dynamics.
@shinyshinyyshinyyy2197
@shinyshinyyshinyyy2197 11 месяцев назад
that’s the case with any two time signatures with the same top number
@carlosferreira9873
@carlosferreira9873 11 месяцев назад
@@shinyshinyyshinyyy2197 exactly!
@tychi9189
@tychi9189 10 месяцев назад
That's what I'm sayin
@BogoBob
@BogoBob 10 месяцев назад
Also you can put the whole thing on 4/4 too and not hear a difference.youll only see it as the groove doesn't evenly repeat on whole bars it will start the repeat on the 4th beat of bar too and continue to shift back as beat yeah repeat. But each bar will still have 4 beats.
@micahcorson8831
@micahcorson8831 10 месяцев назад
Came to the comments to say exactly this!!
@saltysumo7991
@saltysumo7991 5 месяцев назад
Concise, to the point, no fluff, not pretentious, and most importantly - actually correct. Quite unlike most music RU-vid tutorials.
@titucolceri7489
@titucolceri7489 9 месяцев назад
I've seen a lot of musicians make these types of arguments when in fact, it's arbitrary. It depends entirely on whether the composed piece uses quarter notes, eighth notes, half notes or even 16th notes as the base meter. It also depends entirely on the written tempo. I stopped using "7/8" or "7/4" a while ago since you can't know the intended root beat structure without talking to the artist. I find it's more accurate to talk about time signatures as functions of a musical phrase. Where does the phrase start and stop? How many beats are present in each phrase? Then just call it a phrase in 4 , or 6 or 13 or whatever the artist is using.
@cdsiema3914
@cdsiema3914 9 месяцев назад
Totally true
@danielmugnaini5735
@danielmugnaini5735 9 месяцев назад
Yes! Time signature and meter are two different things. In simple meter the time signature relates to the beats, while in compound and mixed meters it relates to the parts of the beats.
@LouLouTooPaToow
@LouLouTooPaToow 8 месяцев назад
THANK YOU
@yoshizimmerman3950
@yoshizimmerman3950 6 месяцев назад
I agree. She's just playing a different groove. You can pay both of these in either time signature.
@alanjenkins2203
@alanjenkins2203 9 месяцев назад
I have no idea what you are talking about but you have an engaging personality I watch to the end.
@KbeezyThe
@KbeezyThe 10 месяцев назад
Thank u so much . I've been playing over 30 yrs and u have helped me understand things so easily, I'm mostly by ear and feeling. Just wanted to thank you for your lessons. ❤
@NoteSmoking
@NoteSmoking Год назад
Turkish Beats 1-2 1-2 1-2-3 Subdivision becomes a big reason to use different meters. You often see triplets in compound meters so it works for things like that, too.
@darkotube
@darkotube 11 месяцев назад
ye, well, Turkish .. maybe. But almost each Macedonian song is in an odd rhythm, usually 7/8 and 11/8
@OmgEinWahnsinniger
@OmgEinWahnsinniger 11 месяцев назад
But it is no triplet. Those 3 8ths are longer than the 2 8ths groups. If it would be a triplet it be the same length.
@NoteSmoking
@NoteSmoking 11 месяцев назад
@@OmgEinWahnsinniger thanks for the pro tip! Forgot they’re just called 8th notes at that rate.
@01aleph
@01aleph 10 месяцев назад
I don't know about Turkish rhythms, but Macedonian rhythms are mostly 7/8 or 9/8, 11/8 and 18/8, the Macedonian band "Leb i Sol" and their guitarist Vlatko Stefanovski play them, King Crimson and prog rock bands often play them use.
@willemsgrahpics
@willemsgrahpics 3 месяца назад
BRITISH MUSICIAN! Very refreshing to stumble across a fellow Brit musician. Hello! And thanks your tips are awesome😊
@nuuhishere6752
@nuuhishere6752 Год назад
in general it has to do with grouping more than that. 7/4 are seven beats and 7/8 is generally and combination of 2, 2 and 3 beats. So for example you'd count "1 2 1 2 1 2 3"
@scopilio13
@scopilio13 Год назад
but you can group the quarter note the same way in 7/4 as the eight notes in 7/8. 7/4 is essentially an augmentation if 7/8.
@nuuhishere6752
@nuuhishere6752 Год назад
@@scopilio13 of course you *can* if you want to. But this is usually the reason why people use 7/8 instead of 7/4. It also has to do with tempo. A 7/4 is usually much slower than a 7/8 so it's not necessary to pulse it. 7/8 and even more so 5/8 most of the time can only really be played if you pulse it.
@bradparker9664
@bradparker9664 9 месяцев назад
Very interesting even as a guitarist. A very nice job, and a GREAT shirt, by the way
@stevepruitt6406
@stevepruitt6406 Год назад
You didn’t explain how they were different. You demonstrated what the rhythm groupings would be if the quarter note tempo remained equal; using your example, you could have made the quarter note in 7/4 and eighth note in 7/8 as the same tempo to make the rhythms sound identical. What you should have pointed out is that 7/4 is a simple meter (eighth notes grouped by twos, which differs from compound meter where 8Th notes are grouped in 3’s)) and 7/8 is a complex meter (eighth notes grouped both simple and compound). Slightly more complicated answer, but keeping the same tempo for the quarter note between both meters seemed like a lowbrow way to demonstrate metric differences.
@shlecko
@shlecko 11 месяцев назад
They're actually both odd time signatures. The only real difference between them is how they look on the page, you can group the beats however you like
@markgoho
@markgoho 11 месяцев назад
Way to explain how this drummer doesn’t actually understand rhythm internally and only knows it notationally
@callanc3925
@callanc3925 11 месяцев назад
The thing is the feeling of the music is what dictates which time signature is correct. For most popular music, kick and snare are on the quarter notes, hence for most popular music that is what dictates whether its 7/8 or 7/4.
@joeldrum9519
@joeldrum9519 10 месяцев назад
​@@shlecko😅
@johnnycbad
@johnnycbad 10 месяцев назад
The drummer is arguing from a specific context. She's playing a typical backbeat (snare on every even numbered 1/4 note). In 7/4 that's 3 snare hits (on the 2 4 and 6), whereas in 7/8 it's only 2 snare hits (on the 3 and 7). It results in a different rhythmic feel. What she says doesn't apply to music without a backbeat as part of its foundation.
@tbonealex
@tbonealex 10 месяцев назад
Those were both 7/4 but just different tempos! #changemymind
@leonluca0074
@leonluca0074 9 месяцев назад
I totally agree!
@treuponthebeat4277
@treuponthebeat4277 9 месяцев назад
Facts
@TripleFermentation
@TripleFermentation 9 месяцев назад
Exactly... what if I play what is played here for 7/8 twice and consider the second half a cool trick of switching to the up-beat... now I've got 7/4! 😮
@Mejoree113
@Mejoree113 8 месяцев назад
7/8 is often felt as 4 and 3, snare placement and groove makes a big difference. Ultimately though music theory exists purely as a way for us to communicate ideas, so we have 7/4 and 7/8 because it makes it easier to relay ideas/explain/understand what's going on.
@TripleFermentation
@TripleFermentation 8 месяцев назад
@@Mejoree113 You are definitely correct that these are just ways to communicate ideas and they can be interpreted in different ways (like words).
@andycharlton6798
@andycharlton6798 Год назад
I heard a good tip once from Rod Morganstein. If you count 7/8 as 12334567, you can fall into counting it as ..... "Five six sev-en" and you're back in 4/4. Better to count as, "....... Five, six, sev', one two...' (I did notice you count "Seven" in 16th notes to avoid this.)
@joshrelf9477
@joshrelf9477 Год назад
You count it as 8th notes or Quavers, because it literally means 7 quavers. So count 1 & 2 & 3 & 4. You'll notice this has one less eighth note than in 4/4 if you are to break it into 8th note rhythms.
@darkpassenger1980
@darkpassenger1980 Год назад
Both of you are right. Nice.
@redacted1462
@redacted1462 Год назад
Yeah I always count is as sev lol. Same goes for if I happen to be counting an absurdly long one like eleven or thirteen
@andersdo2925
@andersdo2925 Год назад
I was thinking about Rod’s video where he talks about 7/8… nice call out!
@Gren4te
@Gren4te 11 месяцев назад
Yeah. We call that a “Belgian 7/8” Just as a “Belgian 3/4” counts as 1 2 3 aaand 1 2 3 aaand 1 2 3 😂
@vanpet1993
@vanpet1993 10 месяцев назад
Try to count 7/8 like 3+2+2 and accent start of each group. That's how we do it on Balkan, because it's natural to our folk music and it's easy to understand it that way... Like: one-two-three, one-two, one-two. Similarly with 9/8... It helps :)
@scopilio13
@scopilio13 Год назад
now play it where the quarter equals 100 bpm for the 7/4 and the eighth equals 100 bpm for the 7/8
@NoteSmoking
@NoteSmoking Год назад
I see what you did there.
@juanrivero6432
@juanrivero6432 11 месяцев назад
It will sound different nonetheless
@diegojorge9659
@diegojorge9659 11 месяцев назад
That is the corret point of view.
@andylopi
@andylopi 11 месяцев назад
And then go betwixt the two!
@johnnycbad
@johnnycbad 10 месяцев назад
It will still sound different as she played the snare on beats 2 4 and 6 in the 7/4 example, and beats 3 and 7 in the 7/8 example.
@tomvance8522
@tomvance8522 8 месяцев назад
I have no idea what you are talking about but you are so darned pleasant, confident, and easy to listen to I had to subscribe.
@love_to_learn_drums
@love_to_learn_drums 8 месяцев назад
Thank you so much!
@drumaddict89
@drumaddict89 10 месяцев назад
loved that. need to dive into those 2 measures more again
@EllissDee4you4me
@EllissDee4you4me Год назад
The difference is 7/4 is a simple meter with straight subdivisions while 7/8 is conplex and shifts between two and three subdivisions
@elliotmcconnell5449
@elliotmcconnell5449 8 месяцев назад
Yup yup. I have on the album i am working on that switches between 7/8 and 7/4 for the first few minutes of the song. Its a really cool transition.
@SJohnTrombley
@SJohnTrombley 10 месяцев назад
You understand the difference l, but I don't think you communicated it very well. The important part is where the strong beats fall, and I think the emphasis on eighth notes kind of confuses things. The important thing is that 7/4 has 7 equally spaced strong beats, while 7/8 has some unequally spaced sequence of strong beats (usually some permutation of 2+2+3, I guess 2+2+2+1 if you're playing math rock).
@jgt_
@jgt_ 9 месяцев назад
It’s not always that simple. One technique often employed by drummers is to alternate where the strong beats fall between each bar. The band will be playing in 7/8, and it will feel a bit like the drummer is playing one bar of 7/4 for every two bars of 7/8 the rest of the band is playing.
@ExaltedDuck
@ExaltedDuck 9 месяцев назад
They can be almost the same.depending on tempo and.subdivision. It's like... 6/8 and 2/2 are pretty different but if you have a song written in 2/2 with all quarternotes as triplets and then swing them a little, it's basically 6/8. So to that end the differences between 7/4 and 7/8 are a lot like the differences between 2/4 and 2/2.
@kevinmerino7432
@kevinmerino7432 6 месяцев назад
In band we were taught to think 7/8 in groupings, so 12 12 123 or 123 12 12. Same goes for 5/8, 12 123 or 123 12. Made a huge difference when learning how to feel these rhythms
@ibbumpn
@ibbumpn 11 месяцев назад
You are absolutely incorrect. The only difference is in how it is written. That being said, if you tell someone to play in 7/8 or 7/4 they are more likely to put the emphasis where you would like it.
@edgunther8136
@edgunther8136 7 месяцев назад
This might be the only comment here that's not wrong
@gronodon
@gronodon 10 месяцев назад
I think the gist is that each one has a different vibe. If your piece is fast-moving with a pattern like 2-2-3 then it likely makes sense to write it 7/8, and if it’s more deliberate & slower paced 7/4 may be acceptable. Although tbh this example makes them sound the exact same, which in practice isn’t true and just muddies the waters for no reason
@firefox7801
@firefox7801 9 месяцев назад
these are two different groves, the way of counting does not matter as much as you might think. you can actually switch 7/4 and 7/8 around and adjust tempi and have it exactly reversed.
@HimborDonutstrom
@HimborDonutstrom 10 месяцев назад
I have the same T-Shirt. Long live DG!
@drazen_musik
@drazen_musik 11 месяцев назад
Your accent made me enjoy the sound of an electronic drum kit for the first time in my life
@Skiddoo42
@Skiddoo42 4 месяца назад
Now I'll have the solo to Money stuck in my head all day.
@TaxinGigs
@TaxinGigs 9 месяцев назад
You're accent is brilliant.
@love_to_learn_drums
@love_to_learn_drums 9 месяцев назад
Thank you! 😅
@basicoptimalmouse
@basicoptimalmouse 9 месяцев назад
When I first started writing music, I was full into odd time signatures, but they were nearly always x/4 when they should have been x/8 (5, 7, and 13) to help my drummer make it faster. Wish I saw this video 7 years ago.
@Raymaster7482
@Raymaster7482 10 месяцев назад
What do you play with 7/4 at 100 bpm and 7/8 at 50 bpm?
@xp8969
@xp8969 9 месяцев назад
Almost close but no, eighth notes played in 7/8 time at 50 bpm would sound identical to quarter notes being played in 7/4 time at 100 bpm
@jayfullerton6981
@jayfullerton6981 10 месяцев назад
On 7/8 you should accent 1,4,and 7, bass drum on 1 and 7 and snare on 4. This is the method popularized by Danny Carey from Tool, off of Fear Inoculum, where he switches from 7/8 to 21/16 and back again
@derekstarr5987
@derekstarr5987 10 месяцев назад
Love the Rattle That Lock tour shirt. Have the same one. Good vid!
@wagohowardmusic
@wagohowardmusic Год назад
I say betwixt as well . Mahalo
@01aleph
@01aleph 10 месяцев назад
Exactly as explained in the video..Cheers!!!
@mihirbagchi2828
@mihirbagchi2828 11 месяцев назад
Loved the breakdown!
@jjptech
@jjptech 10 месяцев назад
It's impressive the amount of metronome apps that treat both in the same way
@abhishekghimire102
@abhishekghimire102 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for your presentation
@andrewcushman9635
@andrewcushman9635 9 месяцев назад
The only difference between 7/4, and 7/8 is that they are two different time signatures. And the only reason to choose one over the other is determined by whichever is the best way to read the given composition
@doctorf7501
@doctorf7501 4 месяца назад
I still feel like I need it simpler. Loved hearing you play though
@SilverlandgmodTV
@SilverlandgmodTV 10 месяцев назад
7/4 = 14/8 and 7/8 = 3.5/4 (although you'd never write the second one that way) is another way to think of the difference between the two time signatures. Time signatures are like fractions, although in music there are good reasons to sometimes not to write them in simplest form. Although 4/4 is the same as 1/1; that would just be a silly way to write common time.
@ErikPelyukhno
@ErikPelyukhno 10 месяцев назад
Such a good explanation!
@jaredwirth3990
@jaredwirth3990 9 месяцев назад
That amazing voice, it's as if Julie Andrews were teaching the trapset. Beautiful playing!
@omikronairsoft6037
@omikronairsoft6037 Год назад
God bless you bro❤
@CaterinaDomenech1
@CaterinaDomenech1 Год назад
Sis! ❤
@Cor82
@Cor82 10 месяцев назад
This is a pretty good demonstration of the difference. Helps understand time signatures better overall as well. That said, she almost looks like a female version of me and it's a little unnerving. Even in the 2nd shot where she looks a little different because of the lighting, yeah, that exact thing would happen to me.
@alexwales8914
@alexwales8914 10 месяцев назад
Whats the difference between 7/8 at 100bpm and 7/4 at 200bpm?
@justinmadison513
@justinmadison513 9 месяцев назад
Nothing
@PaulGuy
@PaulGuy 9 месяцев назад
The amount of ink on the sheet music.
@alexvoyd1132
@alexvoyd1132 9 месяцев назад
What you are saying is correct in a way. And I guess there is a small wiggle room in there. But they way I usually think about things like these is regarding the song itself. It depends on the music as well
@fryingpanda9103
@fryingpanda9103 9 месяцев назад
The song splash by chon has a momemt where it switches from 7/4 to 7/8. Sounds super cool
@profitnadeem
@profitnadeem 10 месяцев назад
K actually like this breakdown a lot to learn from
@kennethadams6174
@kennethadams6174 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for what you do !
@bh2jbamal397
@bh2jbamal397 7 месяцев назад
Thank you very much dear
@karlrovey
@karlrovey 9 месяцев назад
You could technically use them interchangeably as long as you don't have both in the same piece. A lot of 6/4 (older music, not new) has been showing showing up as 6/8 in more recent publications.
@PaulGuy
@PaulGuy 9 месяцев назад
Most instruments aren't playing two things at the same time, the way drum kits can. So the primary functional difference is in note grouping. X/8 tends to involve triplets and three-beat structures more often than x/4.
@TheDbgtfan23
@TheDbgtfan23 8 месяцев назад
It literally took me 3 years to get this concept down, but I was between the ages of 10 and 13 so I don't hold myself over it too much
@CoreyDrumsss
@CoreyDrumsss 9 месяцев назад
Time signatures are just there to help us conceptualize music and what we want to play/what we are hearing. Technically, these are both 7/4 and 7/8. The only time real distinctions need to be made is in the context of the music you are creating (e.g., because of the structure, it makes more sense to specify 7/8 or whatever signature).
@chrisdass1969
@chrisdass1969 10 месяцев назад
You explained that perfectly
@Generalbas1972
@Generalbas1972 Год назад
I love playing a riff in 7/8 and then play 4/4 drumbeat over that or vice versa
@CharleySuede
@CharleySuede Год назад
Isn’t that the formula for Led Zeppelin’s “Black Dog”? Maybe it’s 4/4 and 3/4 together 🤔
@cagri998
@cagri998 10 месяцев назад
You can play 7/8 note as 2+2+3, 3+2+2 or 2+3+2
@Joseph_C4JB
@Joseph_C4JB 10 месяцев назад
A good way to explain it for a beginner first delving in to time sigs! But true that this isnt a set rule, could double or half tempos and suddenly they sound identical... Tempo vs time and all that. Rhythm is wacky and even wackier when you get into ryhthm and pitch being the same thing just at two extremes of frequency
@emiliogonzalez7246
@emiliogonzalez7246 11 месяцев назад
The most important thing with the sevens is not the speed but how you divide the bar. 3-4 or 4-3 is a big difference and 3,5-3,5 is a totally different beast.
@lagok7036
@lagok7036 10 месяцев назад
You look like a cool teacher!
@youbutrt1707
@youbutrt1707 11 месяцев назад
You just blew my mind. I always assumed when they said 8 beats per bar, that it meant the bar would just go longer, like you're counting 4 beats but then just do 4 more. I never connected that it means you're counting faster, not longer.
@kuick6814
@kuick6814 Год назад
I FINALLY GET IT THANK U ❤️
@mdgroove4135
@mdgroove4135 11 месяцев назад
It was a mystery for me, but it clear now
@Criticality646
@Criticality646 Год назад
7/4 is Led Zeppelin’s “the Ocean” 7/8 is Alice In Chains’ “Them Bones”
@fuckcensorship69
@fuckcensorship69 Год назад
AAAAHH !!!!
@dickjohnson8578
@dickjohnson8578 Год назад
The ocean is actually in 4/4 and 7/8. It alternates back and forth between 4/4 and 7/8.
@fuckcensorship69
@fuckcensorship69 Год назад
@@dickjohnson8578 correct. the chorus to dem bones is 4/4 too, since we're getting picky
@dickjohnson8578
@dickjohnson8578 Год назад
@@fuckcensorship69 not being picky just making a simple correction.
@DarkHound9999
@DarkHound9999 Год назад
MONEY!!!!
@crushsatan
@crushsatan 10 месяцев назад
I think it would help me if you played along with a song, or showed an example of two popular songs exhibiting the respective time signatures.
@ElomoChelo
@ElomoChelo 10 месяцев назад
Very well explained. I had problems to understand time signatures. What you said really helped me. Thank You! 🙂
@tomofield
@tomofield 10 месяцев назад
Practically though, 7/8 is usually split in different combinations of rhythmical emphasis. Taka taka takata (1,2 1,2 1,2,3), or takata takameeni (1,2,3 1,2,3,4) etc. Even weirder combinations in Eastern European music!
@jaylocked9072
@jaylocked9072 9 месяцев назад
So this is technically correct in terms of the subdivisions. So yes 7/4 is 7 notes divided over quarter notes, and 7/8 is 7 eight notes divided over eighth notes. But how you subdivide it or count it out is really going to depend on the composition and style of music you're gonna play. your version is right if youre playing straight eighths/straight quarters. So for example, in my experience, i generally feel out 7/8 more like a 6/8+an eighth note. So I count it 123-123-&-123-123-& or 123-456-7-123-456-7 or 123-123-1-123-123-1 - this is more typical of swing, big band music, and jazz music. Where the eights are usually grouped in triplets. And a lot of the 7/8 i've seen is generally written in triplets with an extra eighth incorporated. It's honestly more rare in my opinion to see a 7/8 written as straight eighths although it can be (at least in mt experience anyhow). They're two very different feels composition wise.
@eggrollwastaken
@eggrollwastaken Год назад
you explained this perfect
@els1f
@els1f Год назад
I never encountered these runic notations before, but I like it😋
@dustinglasier6417
@dustinglasier6417 10 месяцев назад
You've never seen percussion staff on sheet music?
@randucci
@randucci 9 месяцев назад
Thank you
@dianaperez5058
@dianaperez5058 7 месяцев назад
❤"curious I notice different drum sticks for certain lessons...brown drum sticks are what size? Used best when?
@love_to_learn_drums
@love_to_learn_drums 7 месяцев назад
They're usually all 5A size, I just have some different brands! The brown sticks are Promark Fire Grain 5A, they were gifted to me by a friend❤️
@prisonersforprofit
@prisonersforprofit 9 месяцев назад
good lesson.
@clydedowney2620
@clydedowney2620 9 месяцев назад
You're Very Good!
@sakthiveld8132
@sakthiveld8132 2 месяца назад
Thanks
@cdh79
@cdh79 10 месяцев назад
that 7/4 and 7/8 are not the same is pretty easy to see, however what some people don’t get is that 4/4 and 8/8 is also not the same.. 4/4 is 4 group of two 8th notes (1,2 - 1,2 - 1,2 - 1,2), while 8/8 is grouped into three odd beats (1,2,3 - 1,2,3 - 1,2 for instance)
@harrywilliams5489
@harrywilliams5489 2 месяца назад
I play bass primarily, I also play drums a bit. Your drum explanations have helped me to become a better bassist(and a less shitty drummer) 🤣 thank ya lots luv🤙🤣
@johnswan6759
@johnswan6759 10 месяцев назад
Thank you. ThankYou THANK YOU@!!!!!
@PawarSyn
@PawarSyn 11 месяцев назад
I’ve this t-shirt from the rattle that lock tour :D
@aliteralmonkey4370
@aliteralmonkey4370 10 месяцев назад
i think 9/8 is a fun time signature. There are 2 unique ways to count it and each one makes the overall pulse WAY different. 2 + 2 + 2 + 3 makes it feel like a 4/4 with hesitation on the 4th beat. 3 + 3 + 3 feels like a strange 3/4 pulse
@diegowilliams1608
@diegowilliams1608 10 месяцев назад
i’m not sure if it was done on purpose when you said “betwixt” possibly in reference to hank levy’s “Blues Between & Betwixt” which switches from 7/4 and 7/8
@jamilzidan3150
@jamilzidan3150 10 месяцев назад
The two beats you just played might be written both in the two ways, but I understand the common way to write subdivisions is with 8 notes instead of quarter notes
@emolovetree
@emolovetree 10 месяцев назад
King crimsons level five uses both 7/4 and 7/8
@lorislaruedrummer6739
@lorislaruedrummer6739 Год назад
A good example is in obscura akroasis, during the skank beat (it's not)
@casaxtreme2952
@casaxtreme2952 9 месяцев назад
Well technically it can be the same if you scale all other notes by the same factor. I also played an instrument a while ago and being math focused I never really understood why it said "4/4" and not just "1" or what the difference is between 2/4 and 1/2, because it all comes down to the notes. Tempo 60 or 120 can also be the same. You could also play a 7/8 written down in a 4/4 by just writing down the notes accordingly. I had similar thoughts about why tf we had flat and sharp notes if any flat note can be written down as a sharp note. It all comes down to easier interpretation and readability and today I can better understand why you would do that.
@Guanjyn
@Guanjyn 10 месяцев назад
Damn I was looking forward to seeing the 2 together. Guess I'll never know.
@gioiafrancesco
@gioiafrancesco 9 месяцев назад
Dangerous explanation. You should specify: "Keeping the same pace" what you said makes sense. But if you have a 7/4 at 80=crotchet and then you have a 7/8 at a slower tempo (i.e. 50=crotchet) the two things are basically the same. The important thing to lay stress on is that 7/x is a irregular tempo, which means that we perceive it as a sum of two basic patterns (4+3 or 3+4). This is always true.
@dre4011
@dre4011 9 месяцев назад
EXCELLENT T-SHIRT!!!!
@TheeSlickShady_Dave_K
@TheeSlickShady_Dave_K 10 месяцев назад
I subbed right before "follow for part 2"
@N8CRE8
@N8CRE8 9 месяцев назад
Love it ❤
@kunlesamuel1653
@kunlesamuel1653 9 месяцев назад
7/4 and 7/8 (even 7/16 and 7/32) would absolutely sound the same. The difference only exist when writing and reading it. It has nothing to do with tempo or the hi-hat.
@michaelevans9881
@michaelevans9881 Год назад
Betwixt the storyline of my life.. your great 😅
@rorygreen2088
@rorygreen2088 10 месяцев назад
Didn’t know I needed Harry Potter drum lessons.
@adamodimattia
@adamodimattia 10 месяцев назад
Now I will know how to tell what King Crimson pieces are in 7/8 ❤
@love_to_learn_drums
@love_to_learn_drums 10 месяцев назад
Awesome!
@pmcate2
@pmcate2 10 месяцев назад
Of course at a fixed tempo they are different but when people say they are the same they mean one can be made into the other by changing the tempo
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