What's Happening with the 6th-Gen Toyota 4Runner? We Discuss When It's Coming and What it Will Be! 

So should someone wait or buy a Jeep Grand Cherokee.

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Thank you David! ❤Both channels! David, I miss my straight 6 in my 1984 European Toyota Supra I imported from Germany. Awesome Supra. What if they bright back the twin turbo, straight 6 cylinder, 24valve? Our 2020 4Runner Limited 4x4 has the X-REAS system suspension which gives better cornering control, especially needed on our paved, curvy Rocky Mountain roads. However, we miss our 2005 4Runner 4x4 Sport v8. Superior fuel economy, hp & torque. Here in the Colorado Rocky Mountains high altitudes, the v6 and 5sp transmission is awful: Dangerously lacking hp, torque and seriously lacks proper number of gears for correct ratios. Thus, the v6 gets horrible fuel economy and the 5sp is always hunting for gears, either too low or too high of gear ratio for the required situation. Very frustrating and even dangerous in many high altitude situations, both on and off paved roads. Making left hand turns on a busy roadway, merging onto the highway or towing is frightening at times with the v6 & 5sp transmission. If Toyota is going with a turbo 4 cylinder, we highly suggest it comes standard paired to a powerful hybrid lithium battery system mated to a 10sp transmission and be affordable. If it comes with a standard 30amp 110v outlet, that would be perfect for today’s 4x4 off grid power needs. In conclusion, Toyota has much work to do and after owning gen 2, 3, 4 and now 5th generation Toyota 4Runners for decades, we really miss our v8 4Runner 4x4 Sport, especially in high altitudes and/or towing applications. We will gladly test any prototypes Toyota ships our way here in the Colorado Rocky Mountains, USA🇺🇸. 🙂

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Agree! With over 40 years of new product development, advanced material reinforcement, testing and failure analysis engineering experience, I appreciate David’s honest, technical expertise presented in a format the masses understand, respect and enjoy.

He also seems pretty up on marketing.

@@icare7151 Thank you so much!

@@jeffk464 Thank you everyone!

Yes sir

I probably get the the Lexus GX 460, it’s the fancy version of the 4Runners with a V8 on it

That spot is already taken by the 80 Series Land Cruiser, but time will tell whether the upcoming changes are good for the 4Eunner brand or not. Hopefully it doesn't get converted to a full on mall crawler.

Yeah, there will never be a solid front axle 4runner. You might get a bronco competitor.

I want a longer wheelbase 5runner so it has squared off truck doors

MPG is like a tank alright. So it's a tradeoff. If Toyota can make the 2.4 l turbo last as long as the 4 l V6 then they'll have a winner. Ideally I'd like to see a 3.0 liter. Bump it up a little to take the stress off the engine a bit.

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That's very nice of you to say!

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We will definitely keep working on more videos!

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Agreed!

Thank you Benny!

Cars have become more complicated over time and more durable. You will be proven wrong over time.

@@user-tb7rn1il3q battery tech isn’t there yet for 15 year life, we know the current 4.0 liter will surpass the life expectancy of current battery packs on hybrids. Show me a turbo 4 that is more reliable than a 4.0 liter v6….. That’s my point and yes I think EV’s and hybrids are going to make huge strides in the next 20 years but they aren’t there yet. This is only an issue if you are keeping the vehicle over 10 years and also have concerns about resale after that period.

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Thank you - I appreciate that!

Yes ! A manual tranny too. Last year was 2000....

Well, not quite everyone. Ha. We have a 2023 Gen5 on order and it seems like it's going to be another 6 - 10 month wait. Surrounding dealerships still have looooong waiting lists so we must not be the only ones.

@@MrChadx1 I am confident it will be worth the wait.

Oh no it's be way worse than that. Toyota isn't going to give us a naturally aspirated V6 and a bulletproof transmission. We're getting a boosted 4 cylinder and an 8-10 speed.

@@Shakshuka69 that's the point

Agreed. Make it look like 1st gen 4Runner with removable hard top and off road capability and they’ll have a winner.

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Same

The current one is so archaic though.

@@jeffk464 I think that's why it's selling so well... It's the only old-school option for people who want that

What…. Toyota offers 6years unlimited miles for rust on all their models, I’ve never seen a rusted 4Runner in this body style, so 2014-current, and I’m in buffalo ny, aka the rust belt.

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That detuned ttv6 paired to a hybrid would be such a beast!

I totally 2nd that 👍🏼💪🏼

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Wish it had a manual option but otherwise looks great!

If you want a Tundra buy the 2021.

The footage in this video is from a comparison video we shot last winter. Although Nov.1 is pretty normal for us to start getting snow, so we're almost there.

Get a truck. A Ford F-250 or equivalent from the other two big brands. Won't regret it. Diesel last an easy 500k if taken care of. My gas Ford F-250 is going on 200k. Still going strong.

LC Prado is the same vehicle and only comes with full-time 4wd. It has been the same since the 90’s and it’s one of the best selling 🤷‍♂️

What did you change to?

@@gainonten4031 2021 Ford Bronco Badlands with Sasquatch

This. Turbo motors can last a long time but not high compression ones with direct injection

@@Shakshuka69 ...which is pretty much every motor that is made now. This is why Ford requires the TDI service every 30,000 miles (Turbo direct injection) to clean out all the carbon build up. You don't do it it voids your warranty. Why? Because they know the motors won't last.

Same here! I traded in my fully loaded 2018 CR-V which was a great little ride. To be honest I don't miss a lot of the features. It was starting to feel worn out and I wanted something that is proven to last. I am very happy (if not insanely happy) with my "dinosaur" 23 ORP. And as you, I will gladly check out the 6th gen but only when it's been a few years and the bugs are worked out. The first week I had my ORP, I had went camping and talking to someone with a 2020 sprinter. His sprinter has been thru 10 recalls! WTF?! No thanks, give me reliability.

@@kneepayne amen. And you know if the 6th gen comes out, there’s gonna be plenty of people looking for the tried and true 5th if you decide to sell and upgrade

@@DizzyRabbitGaming oh yeah, the resale has been great on the 5th gen and I have a feeling if ANYTHING goes wrong with 6th gen that it's gonna bump up the values of our ORPs! Then again if that happens I may not want to let go of mine either

@@kneepayne oh yeah, just look at the Tundra and they’ve already had some issues (relatively minor, but still). I’ll probably wait at least a couple years to let them work it all out before I consider it

@@DizzyRabbitGaming We'll chat again in a few years and see how it goes ;)

I would tend to agree with your statement. They haven’t hit any home runs with the new Tundra by any means and as many others mention they can’t even seem to get tow / recovery hooks on their “off road” packages. If Toyota is benchmarking this against the new Bronco then they missed the mark again.

Roll heard a lot of bad reviews with these vehicles made in the USA fit and finished. It is not up to standard for Toyota and these price of these vehicles are getting astronomical. Not sure why Toyota can't make a 4 Wheel Drive basic Land Cruiser for off-road enthusiast and Overlanders! I know the new forerunner is a baby LandCruiser.. not sure why Toy can't get smart and give the people what they want. Old Man Emu and ARB optioned out!!

And the 4Runner has an even longer history than the Tundra. 🙃

Our 2020 4Runner Limited 4x4 has the X-REAS system suspension which gives better cornering control, especially needed on our paved, curvy Rocky Mountain roads. We miss our 2005 4Runner 4x4 Sport v8. Superior fuel economy, hp & torque. Here in the Colorado Rocky Mountains high altitudes, the v6 and 5sp transmission is awful: Dangerously lacking hp, torque and seriously lacks proper number of gears for correct ratios. Thus, the v6 gets horrible fuel economy and the 5sp is always hunting for gears, either too low or too high of gear ratio for the required situation. Very frustrating and even dangerous in many high altitude situations, both on and off paved roads. Making left hand turns on a busy roadway, merging onto the highway or towing is frightening at times with the v6 & 5sp transmission. If Toyota is going with a turbo 4 cylinder, we highly suggest it comes standard paired to a powerful hybrid lithium battery system mated to a 10sp transmission and be affordable. If it comes with a standard 30amp 110v outlet, that would be perfect for today’s 4x4 off grid power needs. In conclusion, Toyota has much work to do or after owning gen 2, 3, 4 and now 5th generation Toyota 4Runners for decades, we sadly will have no choice but to go with a different brand as our 2020 4Runner 4x4 v6 & 5sp is simply not acceptable in high altitudes and/or towing applications.

@@icare7151 The 4th gen 4Runner was the most premium ever. It was even more premium than the Land Cruiser Prado! It had the same full-time 4WD system on EVERY trim and the base engine was the 4.0 V6, not the 2.7 I4 that the Prado came standard with. The optional engine then completely destroyed it. 4.7 V8 vs 4.0 V6, no comparison. With the Tundra and especially the Sequoia we see Toyota making North American TNGA-F vehicles deliberately worse. The Land Cruiser is the only vehicle that wasn't a huge disappointment so far on this platform.

The 2005 V8 4Runner 5 speed transmission is the same 5 speed transmission on the current 5th gen 4Runner. Only difference is the V8 torque comes earlier in the RPM range. Also used in the 2003-2007 Land Cruiser/LX470 and 2003-2009 GX470 as well as various oversea models (Land Cruiser Prado). The old trusty A750 5 speed paired with the 1GR 4.0 V6 is one of the reasons I skipped over the 5th gen 4Runner in favor of the GX and LX. If Lexus can put a 6 speed/8 speed in their comparable BOF SUV, then it should be a no brainer to put the same 6/8 speed in their equivalent Toyota product. Land Cruiser/LX of the same year got the 6 speed and 8 speed upgrade.

@@runnerxa Does the current Prado with the 4.0 1GR-FE V6 also use the 5-speed? With the 2.8 1GD-FTV turbodiesel I4 it uses a 6-speed manual or 6-speed automatic.

The 2023 RX 500h has a 6 speed

@@rightlanehog3151 yeah i guess i assumed he was referring only to the RX350 which is the Aisin AWF8F35 8 speed. But you are correct, the hybrid 500 has a 6 speed.

Just last week actually

Don't be fooled by the snow shots. Those were recorded last winter.

Once in it you won’t regret it. you can run it for 5 years to see how the other sifts out .

Thank you for not buying one.

none yet

@@STIGu1993 opposite of what you said.