What's the point of a 4" hexacopter? FLYWOO HEXPLORER LR

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The Flywoo Hexplorer LR is a 4" hexacopter. What's the point? Is it actually better than a 4" lightweight LR quad like the Explorer? Is it better than a powerful 4" acro quad like the CMW Shocker? I think there is actually a place for this aircraft, beyond the sheer novelty of having a 4" hexactoper!
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-- TABLE OF CONTENTS --
0:00 - Intro
1:11 - How did Flywoo convert the quad frame to a hex?
2:19 - How much heavier is the hex vs. the quad?
3:09 - They upgraded the flight controller! F7 and barometer???
5:01 - GPS upgrades (did they work?)
6:31 - Bluetooth Speedybee adapter included
7:30 - The star of the show, the 6 in 1 ESC
8:05 - Betaflight configuration notes and changes
12:21 - Flight test: can it carry a Hero 8? Sort of.
17:30 - Flight test: 850 mAh 4S. Can it freestyle?
20:05 - Flight test: how does the hex compare to the quad?
21:48 - Conclusion. Should you buy it?

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8 июн 2024

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@tehllama42 3 года назад

My wife: "Why are they making hexacopters? Is that just to sell more motors and props?" True. Love.

@Raydio6 3 года назад

😆

@cj691 3 года назад

Ha, probably! xD

@weseng1 3 года назад

Uhh, look at the price, they practically gave you all the extra stuff for free. I'm betting the price will only go up over time plus it's just too cool not to have. Just clicked your link, take my money. I'm going analogue and save a bit of weight.

@MrPhilbautista 2 года назад

If one motor/prop goes out, that kwad comes down. If that happens on a hex, it’ll still be able to fly back to you.

@DaveCFPV 3 года назад

Great review as ususal! Main advantage of the hex IMO is lower disc load with a heavy 4S LiIon (Besides just looking super cool). The 4" quad is really starting to struggle with a 209g battery. It gets a bit loud and you start loosing efficiency. So you can go for 5" or think out of the box like Flywoo did and just add two more 4" props. The disc area is the exact same +/- a few percent. Anyways, hope mine arrives soon so I can finally test it ! 😁

@onenerdarmy 3 года назад

Theoretically the flywoo hex is less efficient as it has to carry around two more escs, more wiring, more mounting hardware, arms etc. Also the associated drag with more arms and prop areas, a more efficient quad that can carry a heavier weight seems more sensible - the hex may be superior in terms of flight stability however.

@reevolution_fpv Год назад

Hey, I know this video is super old but I fly the hexacopter long range a fair bit with a lith-ion and a naked gopro and it does pretty well. I'm also a racer so I tend to fly pretty quick. But the props in view really ruin the footage. I've been thinking about swapping to the quad version. Do you think I'd get the same flight performance on a lithium ion battery long range? Or should I stick with the hexa? TLDR: Lithium-ion+naked gopro for long-range. Better on hexa or quad?

@ryeyoo 3 года назад

The inclusion of a table of contents in your recent videos are 👌

@itzdr3z1l 3 года назад

@15:39 “Get a bucket and a mop?” 😂😂😂🤙🏾

@alexdefelice2448 3 года назад

"Is this a better aircraft?" In my humble opinion... yes. I have both, and the quad really struggles once you strap on the li-ion pack (to the point where the motors overheat badly without rpm filtering). The hex can carry the big li-ion pack and the SMO 4k effortlessly, and does great even in breezy conditions. The quad's only real advantage is that you can keep it under 250g, at least when running an 850mah lipo.

@tomtrethowan3917 3 года назад

Wow great magic trick, dunno how you pulled that off

@bassmechanic237 3 года назад

Alice Cooper on the rcgroups forums says to improve gps, you should plug in your quad and leave it outside for an hour or so in order to give the GPS unit enough time to update its satellite almanac. Apparently the GPS units almanac is blank when it ships. So if you give it an hour or so to fill its address book, it will acquire a lot faster from then on.

@avgvstvs96 3 года назад

Interesting information, thanks for sharing

@robertdavis3788 3 года назад

I'll put surprotector on my porch with cookies n milk and ill babysit it for the hour for.ya

@AsylumET 3 года назад

You should power your GPS alone via the balance port on your battery pack and then when it has a lock which should be fairly quickly, then you can power up the FC and other electronics.

@trevorimpulsebuyguy6398 3 года назад

Basically the point is it's cool. Joshua sounds like a kid in a candy store when he looks at the 6in1 esc.

@tango_sierra8608 3 года назад

Idk why but your vid style is so addicting to watch. Even stuff I have zero interest in (this product) I have to at least play in the background while I multitask. Props to you and your editor

@Schradermusic 3 года назад

I love how excited you are about the 6-in-1 ESC. Keep doing what you do, Joshua! :)

@jamis2341 3 года назад

Point is to be awesome! Also, the analog version seems to get GPS super fast. The length of time is 100% linked to interference from Vista.

@SQuiDFPV 3 года назад

Yeah I get 11 before I pull my googles down, can't get the blue tooth working though

@parker1ray 3 года назад

That grey overcast look is what I don't miss most about East Tennessee all winter long!

@marsmachine1156 3 года назад

The glee to see a 6 in 1 ESC! 🥰🤓 I love your videos! Happy holidays Joshua! 🎅🏻🎄🌟

@MCsCreations 3 года назад

Fantastic flying, Joshua!!! Great review! 😃 FINALLY we have a 6 in 1 esc! There's a beautiful 5" hexacopter frame on Banggood for a long time (or at least there was!) and I always wanted to build it! 😂 Well... We'll see! But, definitely... This is the way! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

@mooredge 3 года назад

Just want to say you're the best Bardwell. Keep up the great content.

@Rcschim 3 года назад

I can think of one more reason for the hex: more stable in rougher longrange conditions, in gusty wind? Because that's the one downside of cruising those new tiny drones, if it's not really calm, it doesn't feel like the magic carpet ride that I aim for to get my daily out of body experience ;) Greets, Mario

@joaquinluka3997 2 года назад

i know im randomly asking but does someone know a tool to get back into an instagram account..? I stupidly lost my account password. I love any tips you can offer me

@kobebrayden9639 2 года назад

@Joaquin Luka instablaster ;)

@joaquinluka3997 2 года назад

@Kobe Brayden Thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site on google and I'm waiting for the hacking stuff now. Seems to take quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.

@joaquinluka3997 2 года назад

@Kobe Brayden it did the trick and I now got access to my account again. Im so happy! Thanks so much you really help me out!

@kobebrayden9639 2 года назад

@Joaquin Luka No problem :D

@martianmcfly 3 года назад

Nice detailed review!

@Aarons14bugs 3 года назад

I am really excited to hear your solutions for the gps issues you mention. I love the Tarsier but it ruins the gps reception, and right now is a big problem in my Explorer LR (quad).

@Tuidkskiwjdhdbd 3 года назад

Thanks josh im a new fan of your and just getting into this and trying to find what to buy

@JonWheeler84 3 года назад

I love your channel. New to flying drones. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

@JoshuaBardwell 3 года назад

Welcome to the hobby!

@JonWheeler84 3 года назад

Thank you! I’ll check out your patreon tonight!

@tRu028 3 года назад

Great looking shirt!!

@TheZolon 3 года назад

Analog Flywoo converted to DJI Vista, when I did the conversion, I put the GPS on the softserial and the DJI on the uart. No drop outs, and I get a lock in around 45 seconds now.

@carrboro_chapelhillfpv2442 3 года назад

I love hexacopters especially Y configuration, I like the way that one looks as well.

@h2o-fpv623 3 года назад

nice looks really cool for long range great video.

@jlarson42 3 года назад

Definitely interesting, different than the usual toys we fly. Seems built for cruising with a naked gopro and the heavier Li-ion pack. To freestyle it I think would lead to disaster the first real crash. The 4" Shocker was awesome for freestyle, looked like so much fun ripping around your yard. Happy flying. 👍💖🤓

@Gierzu1 3 года назад

Hi, after your last roundup with those 4" long range quads I decided to do something with my own GPS setup and I have twisted tx/rx wires together and VCC/GND lines separately. Than I have put them into the shink tube where they were just beneath my VTX. Belive it or not but now GPS is locking very quickly and I have also noted the most satelites locked with this setup - over 20 during very foggy day. My GPS is BN-220 by the way.

@narnasqueneth 3 года назад

I love it- I'm just working on getting my 2.5 inch Tomoquads EVO-H Hex set up so if she flies good, this may be my next purchase. 6in1 esc, man that makes things easier as I'm curently using two 4in1s stacked....

@tourbiker3509 Год назад

It's like training wheels for Astral Projection! love it.

@zaplocked 3 года назад

Reminds me when the real old cams had "gps friendly" versions you could buy when you put them on your drone

@krzysiekk3823 3 года назад

What were those cams doing? I've never heard of such a feature

@zaplocked 3 года назад

@@krzysiekk3823 Making noise Apparently

@Flash-FX 3 года назад

I slid some copper solder wick braided "sleeve" over the GPS wires on my 4" LR...In effort to reduce the sat fix time on the GPS, minimal improvement. Then I discovered the analog transmitter was powered to the 5v out. Fixed that too. Glad to see they are trying to make improvements. Maybe perfection by the time the 4"octocopter comes out??

@gargolaconrad3188 2 года назад

I just got mine in the mail today, (The Frame) Thank GOD it comes with instructions for assembling the frame. It has a bunch of pieces, but comes nicely pack in a plastic reusable box; with extra pieces. I got the idea for the motors that I'm going to use on this from Scott Tomlinson, and this thing will have a ton of power while using a Li-ion battery.

@MagicFPV 3 года назад

When you said “Wanna see a magic trick” I got so excited I instantly ‘liked’ the video! 😂 🪄 👍

@BOTGRINDER 3 года назад

i did 4km on a 650 4s with it, i was pretty shocked

@canceledczech457 3 года назад

Bot!!!!!!!!!!!🍁🔥🍁🔥🍁

@DougEfresh. 3 года назад

This is really pretty cool. I ended up getting the Eachine Shadow Fiend, still waiting for it but will be here Monday. Did you happen to review this? I just don't recall you reviewing it but I've been watching so many that I might have missed it.

@FPFPV 3 года назад

13:06 Interesting mounting solution. I was kinda running out of space on the top plate with a 20˚ naked GoPro mount. Should probably start to mount em horizontally as well.

@lexduke5321 3 года назад

I would like to see a quik 5 rotors test !

@predatox1515 3 года назад

Verry nice keep it up love ur vids

@carltongarley6735 2 года назад

This guy JB, is on another level. Wow.

@licensetodrive9930 3 года назад

I saw someone mention a really good point about having an AIO that can control 6 motors - if you run it on a quad it means you have 2 spare motor outputs you can switch to if you happen to break one or two.

@SiamFpv 3 года назад

Really nice content as always 😉🍻

@stone_fpv2599 3 года назад

I think it is perfect for when you got a limited budget and want to do long-range cruising with a Gopro and Freestyle without a GoPro just for fun. Great Video as always.

@MartianLivesMatter 7 месяцев назад

Remember the RotorX Raiju. That little thing was a beast and ahead of its time.

@focusonchrist6752 3 года назад

Loved this video. New to your channel. New to the drone scene in general. Is there a unit you'd recommend that remains under 250 after battery's inclusion?

@divingfalconfpv4602 3 года назад

Love the welcome sign lol

@princesfpvdrones 3 года назад

Interesting novelty for sure!

@simonedag93 3 года назад

Hello ! Thanks for your fantastc video! Is it possible to move battery on bottom of the hexa? Or i get some problem?

@gregoryc8741 3 года назад

Hey JB, would love to hear your thoughts on dji being added to the entity list by us department of commerce. Do you think it will have a large impact on their involvement of the progression of fpv?

@dropkickjohny 3 года назад

I haven't flown a hex in years! This is awesome, but also Flywoo trolling everyone to copy them like the lr4! I'm totally getting one!

@ericphalin85 Год назад

Can you do a tuning video for a HEX I have the FLYWOO Firefly Nano HEX and would love some tuning tips. It is a lot of fun to fly just really want to get it dialed in for light freestyle/cinematic flights. Love all the videos!!!!

@ajmaintaquir-6896 3 года назад

Awesome!!! Can I buy the parts separately? I mean 6 in 1 esc!!? And also the other parts?

@terminsane 2 года назад

if its the vista processor interfering with the gps, you could try testing various capacitors across the 5v/gnd, (tiny ones, not the fat power supply caps) You could try adding a grounded metal mesh between the gps & vista, if you think its RF interference.

@SDUA_Dennis 3 года назад

What do you think about analog drone and install split-style camera? This way you also get footage you enjoy watching afterwards

@PeterPan-fl1lp 3 года назад

nice save at the end jb lol!

@TheEviling 3 года назад

I think it would give a lot more stability for cinematic flying, although most of that is done by the action-cameras these days. And with hex-copters you can "loose" up to two motors and still have enough control left to save the kwad, which might be cheaper in the long run.

@GeorgiesGirlFPV 3 года назад

Hex’s are so cool. Stable camera as long as its high enough. I love them lol.

@kofiddleboy 3 года назад

15:39 when you crash in the snow you get that WAQ (wet ass quad)

@johncarold 3 года назад

Hi Josh very interested in the helicopter idea, but I just am not sure, I think it's definitely worth the look.

@Vyscera 2 года назад

Have those OSD issues been solved from the quadcopter version that you mentioned? Can't find any info on this.

@blessedfpv7357 3 года назад

The star of the show was how tickled Joshua got when looking at that 6 in 1 ESC. 🤣😂 That's pure joy.

@2daleech 3 года назад

I wonder; if you were able to replace the two prop blades w/ 6 prop blades would the hexcopter be more stable and have more 'grunt' when carrying around the go pro. Would putting 6 bladed props truly help? Would changing the 2 prop system to a 3 or 4 bladed prop system help?

@rf-cinematic1576 3 года назад

It's an interesting copter with great new features. But in terms of 4 inch LR freestyle... what is about the iflight chimera LR with the 3800 KV motor? Is it better for freestyle?

@patreontestarea8591 3 года назад

i wish there was a hexacopter that weighs under 240g with battery, would be perfect for practicing acro for beginners due to its stiffness though it can be very very light without drifting like crazy. really like this hex anyways! maybe if the insurance and so on will be easier and cheaper by 2021 here. nice review as always

@bernharddiener2735 3 года назад

I tried the wire shielding hack with actually a soldered ground wire to the shielding on my quad explorer and it didn't help at all. I'm working around that by plugging in the fc, and powering it, to my phone. This also powers the GPS unit. Then i wait until i have a fix, which i can see on my phone. Then i plug inthe flight pack and unplug the usb (don't forget to log out in software, otherwise it will not arm). It then holds the satelites and i can fly. Oh and becasue i do it this way i don't need the bluetooth. I use the cable anyway

@dronepilot260rc 3 года назад

This might be my next purchase lol just bought the Tyro 119 based on your other video 👍

@ckfpv 3 года назад

Ok got a ? Cant you use that lith ion batt. On a 7 inch long range drone ?wonder how much flight time you would get,i want to do a long range build but with these guys coming out, i just dont know what to do ,i do want a 7 inch LR

@DrOne-sw6oz 3 года назад

Off topic Question Master JB: I can't find it anywhere but when I'm flying on 3S everything is fine quad fly smooth with no problems but if I change to 4S my ESC's starts hitting/kicking motors with a short impulses (very irregular discharge like). Any ideas? Obviously capacitors installed all the settings checked million times .....?

@scottcarman1198 3 года назад

JB, How come the analog Hex comes with the F4 chip but the DJI version comes with the F7. That means we're back to the same problems the original Explorer has with soft serial, less uarts and no barometer. I looked on RDQ, BG and Flywoo and the all said the same. That's messed up

@upmostbeast2321 3 года назад

Apparently there are a lot of issues with GPS with regards to the Split/Tarsier style hd/fpv cameras. If you could find a way to help with those that would be awesome since I want to record HD footage for a micro longrange quad, but I don't have DJI and don't want to shell out for a naked GoPro.

@kayakbobkayak 3 года назад

Looks like they listened to you for the quad .Preorder Explorer LR 4 V2 HD Micro Long Range FPV Ultralight Quad Bnf w/ Vista / Nebula Pro F745 BGA FC GPS V2.0

@TrentTationnaiseXization 3 года назад

Joshy Bard Bard, I'm affraid I might have to watch this one a few times overs. It's like the ultra compilation of how to get your stuff straight with gps, dji, crossfire, etc.

@JS-op5gk 3 года назад

You can't flash INav in Speedybee App, but you can change INav settings The App can Connect via cable If supported by Phone There is a WiFi Adaptor (for Speedybee)

@onnovannoort7690 3 года назад

Seeing all the problems with gps not locking,....coming from fix wings and inav long range flying, I know that you want as much separation from a 900ghz system, problems are much lesser with 2.4ghz systems. So maybe worth testing, assure as much separation between the antenna and gps, or setup with express lrs or tracer on 2.4 Hope this helps.

@calebgrefe8922 3 года назад

Could one theoretically put larger motors on the center two motors with larger props and smaller motors one the front and back with smaller props? for.... efficiency? and just because I' m curious.

@slinktus 3 года назад

Would love to know if the hex would be better than the quad version for someone who is looking to get into the Hobby? Sounds like the Hex might be a little more stable?

@AndrewBlanche 3 года назад

Hey take it as a plus to have a *-1 esc, so you have two extra escs as spares for normal drones.

@divingfalconfpv4602 3 года назад

f4 still comes on analog version.. Is it worth it buying the caddx hd version to get F7 then adding analog camera and vtx

@amachalaamachalpu9366 3 года назад

so I want a long range cinematic platform with 25min+ flight what is the best between the tyro 129 or this hexacopter ? also i am a beginner with mini drone ,

@RealKushrage 3 года назад

0:18 very well placed :D

@JoshuaBardwell 3 года назад

It helps to have a grid on your work surface LOL

@RealKushrage 3 года назад

@@JoshuaBardwell yeah I noticed that xD

@divingfalconfpv4602 3 года назад

real curious flight time on li-ion vs quad

@shawnford7067 3 года назад

One possible issue could be the pins between the ESC and FC that sucks cannot change the FC on old LR with the new FC to fix the issues with old FC. Unless I am wrong I am new to the hobby

@bobolishis7 3 года назад

Your flying has improved massively. Not that you were bad before.

@jeremyjensen2772 3 года назад

Yeah I noticed the difference as well.

@SkyPilotFPV 3 года назад

6 in 1 ..... Way cool!! WELL DONE FLYWOO!!!!!

@kkuhn 3 года назад

I've added some updates (in comments) to my video on how to fix the chimera 4 GPS issues if you are interested.

@SusiSpecial 3 года назад

The best performance increase I got, is using 3,3V instead of 5V for GPS. Nearly any GPS support 3,3V. COmbin this with Ublox offline assist, you receive sats much much faster.

@bohan9957 3 года назад

Is it a good idea to have the Immortal T antenna so close to the carbon frame?

@Truth12345 12 дней назад

I wasn't pleased with the frame design because of the lack of space compared with other 4 inch frames. Build it with 2x 40a (20x20)esc's, 25x25 fc (needed to remove 2 frame posts for it to fit) and 500mw vtx. Also had to remove the gps, support arms and needed to use a mini elrs radio. It's 248g with a cnhl 3s 650mha battery.

@JCtheMusicMan_ 3 года назад

I would need to try it before I decided to buy it.

@cj691 3 года назад

I am not sure if it was noticed or covered in your video and I just missed it when I watched it, but heads up to other analog buyers, it comes with an F411 instead of the F745 disappointingly.

@VdubSPAZ 3 года назад

Curious take off the bi props and put on trip props or quad props and see if that changes the hexacopter's flight characteristics.... Sometimes bi props have a tendency to act weird or balancing issues

@aowi7280 3 года назад

Its an air taxi for elves.

@Director-M Год назад

I'm trying to get Betaflight 4.3 running on my Flywoo Hexplorer Analog but I can't get GPS to work with 4.3. Anyone have any idea why? Cheers!

@KG4JYS 3 года назад

I bought one of these, fun enough to fly. Short flight times are my biggest complaint on small quads. I'm running it with an 1800mah 4s.

@sgelagaev 3 года назад

What flight time you have with 1800?

@KG4JYS 3 года назад

@@sgelagaev I'll have to run the whole battery out and let you know. I'm pretty new to drones so that's a tall order for me. I did discover that Betaflight is a poor choice for long range drones. Minimal GPS support, broken RTH, no support for lidar/sonar sensors. Flywoo has inavflght builds available for their quad f745 explorer so hopefully hey'll follow up with an inav build for the hex f745. Inav seems to have all the stuff from beta plus sensor/navigation support. I think that's the big mistake flywoo made with this product; shipping it with a firmware designed for acro/freestyle when the hardware is clearly setup for long range...

@fpvcrumudgeon4576 3 года назад

Is the hexacopter any quieter than the quad at cruise speeds? Seems the main benefit is load carrying ability and prop loading similar to a 5".

@RCRitterFPV 3 года назад

I bought one... couldn't resist. I'm hoping it still gets home on 5 props...

@lightiberius 3 года назад

Pretty damn cool !!

@longboarderebright 3 года назад

which way do the middle props spin?

@luis_gbs 3 года назад

Would a hexacopter with the 2 middle props inverted be good for 3d? I mean not this specific model, more an overall question?

@Enderkruemel 3 года назад

I like this 6in one Esc, also i like Hex Setups, becourse my oldest quad was a zmr 250 frame But i upgradet it to a custom hex. Also it Runs very old and cheap emax mt2204 2300Kv Motors (6" 3-blade) and Simonk 12A Esc flashed to blheli. But i use this on 4s 3p li-ion pack and also a naze32 whith Barometer and GPS at 2k/1k And its a Good longrange copter now, it has 40min flighttime. I didnt think this was postible whith this old Parts, But i was surprised that it can Fly so long. 35 min flighttime whith the runcam 3s on board. Only 540g whithout the Batterie, for a 6" hex a very Good wight i think.

@STEMwithMrDuda 3 года назад

Does anyone know how loud it is? The Explorer LR Quadcopter is supposedly pretty quiet.

@Dianaranda123 3 года назад

I think this is actually a really cool thing, for some reason i love Hexacopters. Probably just the idea of them and the aesthetic. Albeit to bad i am poor, and only a total beginner, i spent alot this month on a new TX16S, a Tinyhawk 2, Velocidrone Simulator. And some more batteries. I still need to get a different set of goggles my at this point ancient Fatshark Predator ones arent cutting it, for some reason the OSD is pretty much unreadable, and it also has no diversity.