What's the Savings? Warhammer 40k Combat Patrols 

I feel that during evaluation of these "value boxes" you always have to take into account whether or not you really WANT and NEED them for your army. A discount means nothing when you spend more money for things that you eventually will realize that you don't need / don't want for your army. This is why I always take these GW boxed sets with a grain of salt - value is there only when you'll use every single model included (or take your time selling models that you don't want on ebay).

Fun fact about the death guard cp box, you actually get 10 plague marines since there are half a marine in each poxwalker sprue (legs+ half a torso, backpack and left arm). With a bit of knife work and green stuff you will be able to build 3 extra marines using your leftover bits from the plague marine sprues:)

A quick summery for those who want it. Tyranids: $225 value, $75 savings Tau: $240.50 value, $90.50 savings Necrons: $236 value, $82 savings Aeldari: $257 value, $107 savings Drukhari: $245 value, $95 savings Orks: $234 value, $84 savings Genestealers: $276 value, $126 savings Chaos Space Marines: $218 value, $68 savings Death Guard: $232 value, $82 savings Thousand Sons: $258 value, $108 savings ($48 savings ignoring Tzangors) Ad Mech: $230 value, $80 savings Sisters of Battle: $254 value, $104 savings Custodes: $230 value, $80 savings Grey Knights: $187.50 value, $37.50 savings Black Templars: $240 value, $90 savings Blood Angels: $263 value, $113 savings Space Wolves: $220 value, $70 savings Deathwatch: $218 value, $69 savings Dark Angels: $223 value, $73 savings Space Marines (Phobos): $290 value, $140 savings Thanks for all the content, Jay!

If you're trying to build a competitive list, then the discounts really only matter if the boxes contain the models you need. If you're simply playing narratively and dramatically for fun; then the discounts and model count matter far more.

8:35 "No one ever takes the multi-melta on the helbrute' he says, as I slowly glance up at my Thousand Sons Helbrute with Multi-Melta and power scourge.

Taking the time to put this together for newer people coming into the hobby was legit. Nice job and also explaining some of the options with the marines.

Combat Patrol Gray Knights should get the "Custodes" treatment and simply get 5 more strike squad marines.

Disregarding the actual contents of the video, I really liked that you flipped the standard faction order on its head and put space marines last for once.

Here in Vietnam it’s the only way to go. The genestealer cults box is everything I could ever want for necromunda/ killteam

I adore the sisters of battle. To see such a neglected fan favorite suddenly reach a level of quality even the company favorites should be jealous of is incredible.

As a Raven Guard player, I absolutely love the space marine combat patrol. It's load of stealth type space marines are perfect for someone like me who likes to build his army to the fluff more than tabletop effectiveness and then wonder why he keeps losing. Might pick up the bood angel box too and paint em black

Mind you the Grey Knights Combat Patrol box is now the only way to get that Librarian in Terminator armor

As a note for the GK box - you can probably get the points total closer to 800-1000 if you run the DK as a GMDK and the terminators as paladins

One thing about the sisters, they are monopose, but their are quite a few unique poses in that set you cant get anywhere else. The sister superior, repentia superior, canoness, simulacrum, storm bolter, and flamer sisters are all unique sculpts that add variety into a larger sisters army.

Would you consider doing a video like this for Age of Sigmar’s Vanguard Boxes???

I will say, the Tzaangor upgrade sprues are excellent for conversion bits for Tzeentch cultists

In Europe you can easily find the combat patrol's under 100 euro sometimes even under 90 depending on how popular they are so seems they are a way better deal here

EoB I am so glad I found your channel yesterday. You naturally have an eye for such good content. You have such an entertaining and inviting presence that every one I have seen genuinely grips the viewers attention and doesn't let go. You knowledge of Warhammer is evident and we are lucky you have dedicated your time to sharing that wisdom with us. The Warhammer community and miniature hobbyists are lucky to have you. Thank you for everything and have a great summer! (no homo)

Depending on your needs, sometimes you can find value in buying a box that includes some stuff you need (pref multiple models). Say you want/need an Impulsor and a squad of incursers/infiltrators, rather than spending the 50 (ebay) or 80 (GW) on the impulsor and another $40-60 on a 10 man Infiltrator kit, you could buy the blood angels box, take out those units and turn around and sell the librarian for $20, The Intercessors for $15, and the Agressors for around $30, and say another 10-20 for the upgrades and transfers all on ebay. Takes more work but you can really squeeze out the savings by doing this type of back and forth. For the most part you will make your money back on the models you didnt keep and earn back enough to save yourself in the overall cost of the models you did keep, by you basically taking advantage of the Set value. I've noticed as long as you price things fairly just about any 'on sprue' kits will sell as there is always someone somewhere looking for specific units/kits and dont give a shit about sealed boxes.

The boxes are also good when you know you can sell the models you don’t like. For example, I’d like eliminstors and an impulsor. I’d sell the other models and I’d get 95€ worth of models for about 40€ after selling the excess.

I love how no BS these videos are. It’s really a “this is the price and the savings” and then a few comments. Really great content, keep it up!!

There is one thing to add, the Death Guard box comes with 3 additional torsos and legs, so it is basically 10 marines you can make.

"Choose an army that you enjoy painting",madness.... cries in Lamenter.

My two favorite combat patrols are Genestealer Cult and Aeldari. I don’t have either force, but they look great. I’d honestly be tempted by either if I thought I had the storage space and budget, but that would be Army #3 and …. Oof. Thousand Sons combat patrol made me incredibly sad. It only has 3 units (there’s a codex rule that tzangor units must be taken at maximum rate of 1:1 rubric + scarab to tzangor), so you have to run them as a blob of 20 out of the box to be legal.

One big difference between the generic Space Marine box and the chapter specific ones and that the SM box is all monopose. No las fusil option for the Eliminators, Suppressors all monopose. Infiltrators cannot be built as Incursors.

Great video. I appreciate these analysis type vids, Thanks!

Thank you for breaking down things into Space Marines for us, it’s always relatable 😊

Guard players: Wait... something's off...

Great video. I'm amazed you always have consistently good content!

Very helpful. Thank you Cheers

Great video, and thank you for always reminding us to keep in mind what we WANT to play with vs the hard numbers of cost comparison. I often forget that part, and so I am always glad when you say it. XD So glad you also made that note on those demons with the alternate arm attachment. Good to know that is where $60 of the 'value' comes from. And dang, so many of those a player ends up with partial units, what a pain. The Nurgle 7 is cute, but a pain. And the sisters of battle being so chopped up is such a pro con thing. Cool to get 6 types of units, but not having full squads...gah. Great video, and ty!

Great advice at the end Jay!

Crongrats on 100k btw :)

FYI, the reason the Helbrute from the Dark Vengeance box A. looks better and B. only has one loadout, is because it's a named character called Mortis Metalikus. Fun fact, Mortis' original name was Sevarion Kranon, and was a birth-brother of Sevastus Kranon, the chapter master of the Crimson Slaughter. Sevastus imprisoned him in a Helbrute for being disobedient when Khorne first corrupted the Crimson Sabres into the Crimson Slaughter.

Great video Still flirting with getting fully into 40k again and this gives a lot of insight. Nice one Jay

You give really solid advice there at the end, like everyone should examine their goals for a project before they buy any models or tools or whatever.

Thanks for this, cemented my choice for the battle sisters.

When I started my Space Marine Dark angels army, I went with a DA Combat Patrol, and a Blood Angel CP box, and then finished it off with the Deathwatch CP box to give myself a 2000 point army in addition to the Space Marines that came in the Command edition.

Thanks for this video👍

I’ve actually done some prep work ahead of getting the sisters patrol. I snagged about 8 Repentia and 8 arco flagellants off Ebay, so when I *do* get the patrol box, the small squads in there will bring it all up to full squads. The other trick I’ve heard is to buy a spare box of Seraphim, and build that kit with 2 flamer sisters and 2 inferno pistol sisters, and then mix the squads so you have two fully-loaded options.

Your videos ooze quality and have such a range within this hobby. Glad I found you as a returning enthusiast :)

the way this dude resets his facial expressions after he's done talking for a sec. I relate.

Three things with the Death Guard box as someone who bought and loved it. 1. There is also a Biologius Putrifer the guy who buffs grenades and melee. 2. The box is not fieldable as a battleforged army as Poxwalkers are a 20 sized unit and you can’t have more poxwalkers than Bubonic Astartes, so you need either more marines, some termis, a opponent willing to ignore that rule or just leave 10 out. 3. The box comes with 3 spare plague marine backs so with a bit of kitbashing you can get 3 extra. Hope that helps and Blessings of the Grandfather be with you😁

The end take is my favorite. I started painting after a many year break from the hobby, I bought the Black Templar army box and after finishing one squad I've decided I'm going to finish this box then likely go back and build and paint something different. I like it but I don't have a strong desire to paint 100 Black Templar right now. I've always bought and built a box at a time though.

Thought this was a great video. Maybe I missed it but I think it would have been interesting to cover how some of the boxes have unique units. Like the space marine box is the only place you can get Suppressors. Keep up the great work as always, cheers

This was a great idea. Now i gotta look for box vs. box battle reports for a power comparison between them all. We must find out who will reign supreme.

The Thousand Sons box really confuses me. Rubric Marines have been something I have been fascinated by for my entire life, they're some of the coolest looking models GW makes and were a big part of what inspired me to get into 40K. I assumed everyone else would feel the same way about them and would want a box with plenty included, but here we are with a combat patrol that's more Thousand than Son. The Start Collecting version was fantastic and I really wanted to get one, but I decided to get the Sororitas CP instead not knowing the SC kits were about to disappear.

great vid! I was wondering about how cost effective these boxes are and I have to say the value is much better than expected.

Just adding a comment on the Doom Scythe from Necron combat patrol... that's actually a good unit now, with a price cut at 165 points, now being core and having the ONLY weapon that does realiable anti tank damage (aside from the silent king/Lokhust heavy destroyers), it might be an auto include if you're not running a heavy melee list and more of a shooty list

Great breakdown! Really shows the margins GW has to work with.

I got the Deathwatch box and added to the marines from the leviathan box to start my Salamanders. Then added another box of aggressors and a 10 man heavy intercessors. So would recommend the Deathwatch box for a starting salamander player. Two decent leaders, intercessors for sticky objectives and flame aggressors. You can even do what eon recommends and throw in the Deathwatch shoulder pads randomly into the army to make use of the sprue.

As somebody who's been watching youtube content (oh yikes, for 'decades' now) This was really entertaining to watch, you should consider doing more box overviews that have all of the races like this with your own side commentary. Maybe one overviewing best value basic units?

I bought the tau combat patrol to start my first army at the beginning of this summer and definitely think it was a good purchase.

I started playing this month and bought 2 combat patrols from amazon at 127$ (necrons) They look amazing, and i got a whole bunch of good units! The immortals are essential to the necron army, and the tomb blades are actually really shooty. The doom scythe can do some real damage, but you're right for the points you're better off with something else, i'd like to have cryptothralls and flayed ones instead for sure

I bought myself my first 40k set which is the tau vanguard set. Excited to build and paint them. Thinking of getting ork set next.

Necrons are in weird spot since many units were spread across the Indomitus Box. This Combat Patrol definitely feels more like "Add to your starter edition Necrons" than just "Start your Necron Army here" I like the sampling of different units and the inclusion of the far superior Overlord model.

When I started collecting Tau last year, it was recommended that I get two start collecting boxes. I wish I listened! That box was a steal for those Crisis suits! I already have everything in the new combat patrol except the Ghostkeel and I… really don’t think I want more of everything else in the box.

This was very helpful for me since I’ve just started the construction of my necron army and was actually just yesterday thinking if the combat patrol was worth it. Thank you!!!

I’ve literally been looking at the genestealer cult box. You’ve twisted my arm lol 😂

I think my main issue with these boxes is that they don't feel like an intro into the 40k world. The Start Collecting boxes were under $100 and you usually got something big, an HQ and then a squad of something. Really let you get the feel of different units to let you decided what you wanted to get into and how units interacted. These Combat Patrol boxes really weigh you down in certain units that might always make sense (like Tzangoors or Termagaunts) and are pricey to boot.

CONGRATS ON 100K!!!!!!!!!!!!

I started a black Templar army and already put some serious money done. Slowly painting them and cannot wait to get on the crusade. I got the box sets because I wanted certain units and sometimes the price basically paid for it’s self. I was worried about whether I could convert different faction of space marines with others. With upgrade kits, it’s very possible. Thanks for this

A big reason for what’s included in the Necron box is because of Indomitus and the various starter sets. The boxes don’t repeat units and build off eachother. Same with the Battleforce box.

Someone may have said this, but the Drukhari one was one that I saw people buying multiple of because they were great for getting to start a dark elder army and have a decent list.

7:06 22 boxes?! Holy crap that’s a damn good deal!

As someone who needs 3 of the Combat Patrol GSC I'm so glad that the saving on it is so high 😂😂😂 after that it's just 3 boxes of Bikes 😅😅

Really good video, very fair and cutting to the chase. I wish the Nid box came with more Warriors than gaunts and yes the Tervigon would be a very logical inclusion. Although you are in the good ole U.S of A (so talking in terms of dollars, it's still useful to us across the pond in the UK. I'm tempted to go for the Necron box to reboot my old first edition Necrons li with the heaps of plastic warriors and destroyers and everything else metal (tomb spiders weigh a ton!)

So sad that the thousand sons used to have one of the best start collecting and it got replaced with that mess

currently saving for chaos space marine box for my World Eaters and hopefully getting World Eaters combat patrol box (this is a wild guess) when they get their own codex.

the GSC Combat Patrol box is also awesome for Necromunda players for kitbashing. Especially now that their vehicles are the generic vehicles for all gangs.

I have a starter set and dreadnought (both painted as Space Wolves) but i'm thinking about getting my hands on the Tau, I just love everything about them!

Multi melta is probably the best gun for dread/hellbrutes right now. The 24" range is fine with their movement, and the +2 dmg under 12" is great for turn 2/3 when they are making a charge against a tougher target, especially in a meta where you'll see nights at most tournaments.

Remember that if you can run fast enough, everything's free

I bought the Ork one when I first started playing them to get my army started. Overall I personally feel at least the Ork combat patrol was worth it. I'm still fairly new to 40k, but I still use every model I got in the box in my current army, and how the combat patrol was built has largely helped me figure out how my army runs.

Oh man, thinking about the high point value of Custodes, I'm reminded of the time in Kill Team where my Tau unloaded a ton of overwatch with rail rifles and still couldn't prevent them from charging. It was a massacre.

I recently got some Sprues with weapon options for my Sororitas from my best friend with purity seals and extra heads (Need to practice painting heads) in exchange he got some sprues for extra vehicle options. So yeah swap not needed sprues with friends and everyone is happy

Interesting stuff! Will you be doing the same for the new Vanguard boxes for AoS?

Jay, definitely start a Drukhari army. They're a joy to paint!

I’ve never played or collected but I’m thinking about scooping up the Aeldari Combat Patrol!

Both the Ork and Sisters boxes are worth having multiple of, especially if you can get them for a discount.

Looking at the upgrade spreus, you might be able to combine several of them, giving you a very fun set of details. Or get Tor Garadon of the Imperial Fist en the upgrade sprue, so you have TWO power fists. There might be some fun combo's, if you look right.

Just got into 40k and got the drukhari box, was a lot of fun to put together (except the Archon arms 🤬)!

You can often makes some conversions from the boxes too and try to squeeze out some extra points. Ex: In my druhkari box i didnt make the pilots for the ships and rather made 4 more Warrior Models. Nothing major, but now I can swap out my weapons a bit.

Yeah I got DA box for IF before the price hike and sold chaplain and upgrade sprues. Was a great deal.

Hey Jay. Would you ever consider doing one of these videos for the bigger sets? like the Spacemarine battle force and the Ork Killdakka Warband.

Tzeentch tricks us with that Thousand Sons box for sure.

Back in 3rd Ed. Grey Knights had the option of taking Inquisitorial Storm Troopers. I feel if they threw in a squad of 10 of em it'd help the price balance out, give the GK something more plausible to field at 500 pts and give them more options and more models which is sorely needed IMO.

I got the tyranid patrol aiming to add the birthing thing and I also added a squad of flying boys

Sees the STL's on your Patreon* Me who played Dawn of War religiously as a kid: "Hol up"

You mention right at the end to buy a box and see if you like them - do you have example videos of you doing this? getting a small strike team together and hashing out builds with a bud?

Talking to 'Da Boss' at my local Warhammer Store - These 'combat patrols' don't actually go strictly by 'points value', they go by the alternative 'force points' system - The idea being that if you have nothing BUT these boxed sets, you can have a "legal" force-rating army that is roughly equivilent in strength to what is found in any of the other 'combat patrol' boxes.

Best advice is right at the end. Buy one squad and build them and paint them. If you can’t do that then you’ll have wasted less money. On the other hand if you do end up loving it having one extra squad will really help you flesh out an army if you buy one of the combat patrol boxes. I’m currently working on three armies (Firstborn Ultramarines, Cadians and Orks) so I can play with friends and give them a choice of who to play as. Each army is going to have just over 600 points in order to play with a slightly larger army or to play a limited 500 point game but still have a little bit of options when you pick which 500 points to use out of what’s available. The Assault on Black Reach box is what got it started.

Prices around the world are crazy, I'm in germany and my local tabletop shop sells Combat Patrols for 96,00€

Technically you get 9 units in the sisters box (if you count the two characters as units). Also rare for boxes to have two characters. Personally I wish the penitent engine was swapped for a mortifier (or had the parts to make either). But other then that it’s a great box interns of content.

I like the content of the combat patrol boxes because it does allow someone to pick up a... Playable army of just about every faction. The fact that you're still saving money even on the low end is a nice bonus compared to buying the units individually. I think I'd probably get the grey knight patrol box and just stop collecting them after that point just because my friend and I get into battles for a more narrative aspect and I love the idea of doing a game similar to the Dawn of War campaign where there is just a small anti-demon detachment added to my space Marines force.

The nice thing about the DG combat patrol is that the 3x Poxwalker sprues each come with a partial plague marine, so it's pretty easy to actually get 10 out of the box.

Eon's I've been dying to get into the hobby forever. Eternally reading lore and looking at minis. Your channel might be what finally gets me going! Also as a father now thanks for collecting leaks/reveals, I can't prowl the forums like I used to.

One thing to consider with the CP Grey Knights box: only way to get that Terminator Librarian model.

I’ve watched hours of videos on which army to pick and the best advice I think so far is that you can pick any astartes combat patrol and just paint them into the army you want

When I started my Ultra Marine army I bought the Dark Angels and Blood Angels Combat Patrols. When I started my Drukhari army I bought two combat patrols. I think if you are starting out many of the combat patrols are great for buying two while others not so much. But what I recommend is to buy or borrow the codex first and see what models are going to be useful. I want the Tantulus too. I want to find a model I can make into Asdrubel Vect and make it his flag ship. But that is purely a vanity project.