What's with all the Minecraft Hate Videos?: Toxic Community or Lazy Developer 

i completely agree that the hate trend is becoming a horible situation, but the fact that now the hate trend is starting to create a hate trend about the hate trend is funny to me, this is not the first video i'm seeing talking about the hate trend, and it definetly won't be the last.

Minecraft isnt boring you just got burnt out. Try new genres, new games. Try to get hobbies other than gaming if you want. You can't play a game for years straight and expect it to be fun for that entire time

I think the biggest issue with modern minecraft isn't a change in atmosphere or lazy updates, i think the problem is that a lot of additions aren't very meaningful and aren't integrated into the rest of the game. Archeology is a good example, it feels like it's a novelty feature rather than expanding the gameplay. The reason updates like caves n cliffs and the nether update worked so well in my eyes is because they integrate into the rest of the game, world gen and the nether are going to be a part of everyone's experience. I'm not saying every feature or update needs to be universally applicable, but I think it would be nice if mojang would give their new additions meaningful uses. Think about how useful copper was on release (to an extent it could still do with being more useful due to how common it is) or how useful amethyst is. It'd be nice if they had more uses or were integrated into the game better. I would prefer if the sniffer did more than just give you flowers, as those could very easily have just been added to worldgen. The armadillo at least has a concrete use that, albeit niche, is something that makes sense to be tied to a new mob. Overall, it just feels like a lot of modern additions to the game are too shallow or not integrated into the rest of the game's systems, some features feel like they need more meat on their bones. The yearly release cycle for updates is a clear culprit in the matter to me. Obviously Mojang can't work as fast as they'd like because Microsoft is breathing down their necks, and they'd never be able to request something like this, but I think not being constricted to releasing an update every year would lead to update quality skyrocketing. At the end of the day, this is a great video because it helps to illustrate that a lot of the discourse around modern minecraft involves people focusing on the wrong things.

I think the copper lamp 1 tick delay being killed sounds annoying. So many insane tech could had been made without that change

I feel like the community is blowing everything out of proportion, but mojang could definetly step it up a little bit

I've recently started a new modded survival world, it add a lot of vanilla like features, QOL changes, Bizzare stuff like katanas an parkour and with rules like how I'm not allow to rely on villagers to speedrun endgame gear, no crazy iron, mob farms or exploits, and i have to beat the ender dragon and so far it's been incredible, it's pushed me to back to mining and working with base materials. I think Minecraft is really what you make of it, whether it be spent with friends or setting your own goals and rules

Personally, I still think Minecraft is a great and perfectly enjoyable game. It’s not without flaws, but those are negligible enough in my eyes. This wasn’t always how I saw it though. I actually agreed with a lot of these points for awhile until I was hit with a realization: Minecraft is meant for all audiences and different people play different ways. The two things I think people do too much of is focusing way too much on progression to the point of ignoring everything else and playing only Minecraft for way too long and suffering burnout. My advice to people is limit your playtime and try to fully immerse yourself in the world of Minecraft without focusing too much on one aspect of the game and you’ll find yourself enjoying it a lot more. Try something new. You never know what you might find out about the game and even yourself

While the latest updates have been frustrating for me, people do not understand development at all and the hate is unwarranted(Minus the firefly and birch forest situation back in the wild update, that was understandable) I do hope we see Mojang get back in touch with the community like the old days. I miss when mods were officially added to the game

To the point about people finding Minecraft boring, its human for people to sometimes get burned out on anything even things people were once passionate over, burnout is a real thing and getting that feeling for Minecraft is also normal. The game will always be there if you want to ever go back to playing it and its not like its going to disappear any time soon soon.

I'd like to see these hate videos as basically free advertisement for the game. Love it or hate it, as long as someone talks about anything, that's how the subject in question stays relevant. I don't quite remember who I 1st heard this from, but it's the same logic as purposefully badly written movies. *TL;DR:* Hate is still a form of popularity.

Or you could charge $8 for a miniscule mod that makes the game Terraria with a Z axis that gatekeeps features more than anything else, Thanks Jetstarfish :D

thank you for being a sane and balanced person. I try to be considerate of diverse opinions but good lord does it get under my skin when people call minecraft boring. If a kid stops playing with a favorite toy because they got bored, it's not the toy! The kid just got tired of it. And making disagreeable changes isn't really a good argument to me since you generally don't have to play with the changes you don't like, or you can play old versions. I love this game. It's made me a better artist, it even has helped me develop task management. And I'm so happy that they've continued to add onto it for both their old players and for kids of today. I'm very cynical about corporations and company oversight on creative projects, but I think what Mojang has done here has been effective, successful and will be a model for future legacy games.

I would argue that the added structures add to the game atmosphere. The “lonely atmosphere” made it so that the game had no atmosphere for med because signs of life (ether before or past depending on the setting) are what make worlds interesting in any piece of media. For Minecraft being “boring” now, I’ll admit that this is biased, but I feel like the focus on automated farming and turning the game into a bootleg factorio if anything would be the cause of this to me, and basically having the game play itself.

"Minecraft is boring" = take a break and come back when you're feeling creative again lol. Hey I'm taking a break from Minecraft and also videos, but I've been playing Dragon Quest Builders 2, also a building and crafting game. It is Dragon Quest Day, definitely a good game to play if you want something fresh. Its more focused on building, not much of a survival aspect, along with some fun story and base building. Easy to grind for materials. Imo Minecraft will never be boring and it doesn't have lazy development (but I guess Microsoft might be taking some controversial moves, particularly that multiplayer ban thing...). The game is incredible and deserves to be popular. But yeah, when we play ANY game for years and years, eventually you get burnt out.

My main problem is that it feels like the majority of the Minecraft community is feeling entitled to something you don’t see that with almost any other community they don’t realize how good they have it. I get that it’s the biggest game on the planet in multiple different different ways but that’s no excuse to constantly change sides saying the opposite things constantly the community is so large that it’s split into multiple factions of ideas, but that’s still no excuse to constantly be demanding something that other communities aren’t demanding of. Development is the same for all companies is the exact same the only differences are the coding languages and the type of game. Am I saying the community should just shut up and let Mojang do what they want? No everyone deserves to have a voice and give feedback to the devs, but it doesn’t have to be in such a rude manner. My second problem with this community is that they never learn literally one of the first things you learn in school ever and that is to “put yourself in other peoples shoes”. TLDR: the community is entitled and a bunch of non empathetic jerks. (For the most part of course not all)

The take I hate from Mojang is that they REMOVED fireflies because it's poisonous to frogs. BRO THEY CAN SWALLOW A LIVING MAGMA AND THERE'S NO 1ST DEGREE BURN!!!!

Spot on, the hate towards Mojang pisses me off. And the amount of lies about them is STAGGERING. So much of the community does not deserve Mojang at all. I genuinely believe that Mojang should either stop updating the game, or add EVERYTHING that people want. So that way, people realize how stupid they were for their hate.

for the 'new visual identity' when you were talking about the 1.13 and 1.14 texture update, anyone who likes the old textures can just use programmer art, along with another few texture packs that make 1.15-1.21 features look programmer-arty as for the last point (the development sucks) oml thanks for pointing out that peoples expectations have been increasing ever since 1.16. i will admit some of the controversy was self-inflicted (ahem fireflies) but if we were living in 2019 and for minecraft live the tricky trials update was instead announced, people would be more happy than they would now. especially because most of the community doesnt know 1.16 was very stressful for mojang to make (its canon they tweeted it) edit from a few weeks later: ppl can use mods for fireflies so...uh.... i dont think the fireflies are really an issue anymore. the reasoning wasnt amazing but cmon just use a mod.

Personally, I think the Minecraft Community has gotten pretty spoiled over the years... Like, stop for a moment and put all your biases aside, try to think about things objectively. Minecraft costs 30 dollars (40 if you're buying the Java + Bedrock bundle), that's half the price of your average AAA game, with a sizeable amount of content. We get yearly content updates completely for FREE, while any other game franchise as big as Minecraft would make us pay for DLC. If we don't like new updates, they still allow us to play older versions if we wish to do so. Despite being owned by Miscrosoft, what they give us is extremely generous compared to the usual standard for the gaming industry. I feel we really take that for granted. The Minecraft Developers are not at all lazy... Every update they have a lot of subtle under-the-hood changes to improve the experience, usually in the form of bug fixes and slight performance improvements, as well as giving players plenty of tools to create their own mods, data packs, and resource packs. They are humans after all... They have limits. Ever since the Nether Update, I feel like the standard for updates has been raised too high (because most people don't know that the dev team had a lot of time crunch and overworked themselves in order to make and release the Nether Update on time). The bar has been raised too high, and because the playerbase is _so huge_ there's a LOT of conflicting opinions and viewpoints, leading the a lot of toxicity within the community. People (myself included) have a tendency to get tunnel vision about our opinions and ignore the other side of things a lot. If you look at the mob votes, and think about what its actually like, are we not being unfair? Mojang offers us the choice to choose which mob we want in the game, and we fight amongst ourselves. A lot of people get mad that we can't have all three... Its like if Mojang offered us a choice between three chocolate bars, and we get mad we can't have all three. Sure, they can _technically_ afford three chocolate bars, but that doesn't mean having all three is good for our health (or in this case, the game's health). I think we all need to just chill out, stop expecting so much, and smell the roses. Its a block game. We all love this block game (well, most of us do at least), so can we just appreciate Minecraft and all its given us? Minecraft _is_ changing, EVERYTHING changes. That's part of life. You can fear change, or you can embrace it. I love modern Minecraft. A lot of the more recent changes are my favorite additions to the game. Its in no way perfect, but it shouldn't have to be.

I honestly really enjoyed this video. While I still stand by some of my points in my video, I must admit it's not my favourite on my channel. You make some very good points.

Minecrzaft becomes a lot less boring if you stick to only a few worlds that you come back to instead of starting a new world and doing to awfully boring resource grind every time, and if you occasionally play something else. Recently, I've been immersing myself in indie games, like Ultrakill and Bloons TD 6

from 1.17 to now i see the updates that have come out as sort of growing pains for the devs; they've revamped/rework or at least tried to overhaul many aspects of the game's foundation being released or experimental, but its all there. combat exploration through structures and biomes and technology or the tools available to the player are all aspects that the devs have taken a shot at expanding for better or worse. it feels like theyre looking into what will keep the game healthy and relevant in the long term and with 1.20.6 and 1.21 really feel like they've finally finding their footing. it really sad to see ppl critique features without trying out ways to interact/use them for themselves but that's happened before and it'll continue to happen.

As a dev myself. I utterly hate all the stupid "lazy dev" comments from folk who have zero clue what working on a nearly 20 year old codebase is like. You gotta fix bugs, you gotta improve the performance. New features are harder to add. You gotta fix your house before you add an extension cus otherwise things will start breaking. Oh, and no, Notch abd pre-Microsoft was not perfect. I remember when the Beta 1.7.1 release royally messed up. I remember trees in peoples worlds getting messed up when spruce was added and Notch going "oh well". Thats not how you build a solid foundation and we're paying down that debt now. Also, we would get pistons and shears in an update by themselves and we considered that exciting. You guys get like a whole bloody DLC once a year, thats nuts.

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Minecraft was boring... and then i started playing creative more often and ive gotten into it again. i think a lot of people need to try and mix things up more

I find the chat reporting fiasco to be both sad and hilarious... When it first came out, everyone hated it, claiming it was the "end of Minecraft" and that it was the worst thing to ever have happened. A youtuber named Xisumavoid made a level headed observation that it would simply blow over and wouldn't be a big deal, and people opposed him in the comments of that video. Low and behold, its been 2 years and people rarely talk about it. Most servers have plugins that disable it, and I legitimately forget that it exists sometimes... People will get mad about it again, but only if you remind them about its existence. Otherwise most people don't even think about it anymore.

Finally somebody is addressing this bad trend in the community. Thank you for making this video

With this update, it’s just a toxic community almost the entire community complained about how Mojang “wasn’t listening to the community” but this update they have been and yet people are still finding ways to complain

I swear all of these "hate" videos open with a long dialogue about how Minecraft is one of the best games ever made, usually saying positive things about the game for 70% of the runtime with only a few mild nitpicks about the development schedule thrown in. It's fake outrage - so fake that it's only used for the title & thumbnail as bait, while the rest of the video is mostly free of criticism. TL;DR - They want to farm hate-clicks but don't want to get dislikes LOL

Wait, this video has only 39 views? What the fuck? I just finished watching and assumed it had hundreds of thousands of views. This is outrageous.

i stopped playing minecraft a few years ago but have recently gotten back into it on an older version (specifically 1.8) and it’s really reignited my love for the game because my PC cannot handle the new terrain generation and i love being able to not lag if i walk 3 blocks anymore

Amazing video! Very informative about the current state of Minecraft hate.

I agree with you, but the bit at 6:25 about phantoms is wrong. Phatoms were not added in 2017, they were added in 2018 and by then they already dropped the phantom membrane, which can repair elytra but also can be brewed into slow falling potions.

I agree that Minecraft is still good, but it isn’t perfect, and I honestly think it has strayed a little bit. To bring up an example from one of the videos at least present in your thumbnail (I think, or maybe it was a screenshot somewhere in the video), one good point made in Another Serious Critique of Minecraft is what beds have done to the game. At the start, the night was a constant precence that made itself periodically known and had the normally dreamlike and tranquil landscape suddenly fill up with threats left and right. Minecraft, having perfected the simplified form of building and terraforming for prayers by making its world out of big virtual lego bricks, gave prayers both young and old, new and experienced, skilled and unskilled, both an inevitable problems and a solution with infinite faces. Build a wooden box, a dirt pile, or a mansion if you have the time. Maybe just dig a hole or pillar out of reach. So now you’re in the safe bubble you’ve created, listening to the rattle of bones and shuffling of zombies right outside, surrounded by the fruits of your own creativity pushed to necessity. Of course, you could simply wait out the night. But you’re not playing a game to just sit there, you’re there to create and have fun! So what do you do? What *can* you do? If you’ve built up and have some materials leftover, you could do some work on your base. Pretty it up or maybe just improve the walls. If you’re connected to the ground or a cliff, you can use the empty time to make a mine and gather the next level of resources which can either improve your own abilities or go to the base. That’s up to your priorities and the long-term and short-term objectives you’ve created for yourself. But then came the bed. With the click of a button, the night fades away. The threats suppressed before they appear. You don’t even need a house, you can just place it anywhere. Of course, you’ll probably still build one. But you don’t need to, so for all the more players, it’ll feel unnecessary and like a chore. Creativity isn’t saying a million words without input, it’s the ability to solve a problem by not being suppressed by the rules given to you, but using them for yourself. Necessity doesn’t create creativity, but it does give it an initial push. The first spark that, if it hits the right player, might bloom into a full flame, igniting their passion to create. All from the initial escape from the night. This is my way to word only one off multiple quite good points brought up in that video. Edit/conclusion: Now, without a solution, I’m just a complainer. So what do I propose? Well, while I’m no game designer, I might have an idea or possibly two. For one, the bed shouldn’t skip the night. A better option would be if it simply sped up time a bit. Monster still spawn, things still happen, and it all goes a bit faster because the night still exists. Another thing that could be done is some inspiration taken from Valheim’s comfort system. By having a roof over your head, nearby decorations, a source of heat and all that lovely stuff, you create a more comfortable space to live. Trying this back into the bed, it could make the speed up effect faster or slower depending on the comfort level present. I could even be that it blocks you from using beds outside of a proper shelter. Those are just some ideas, though.

It is strange how feeling "lonely" is seen as a positive to many classic Minecraft fans. Nostalgia is a bizarre drug. Its also strange to me how people complain about Minecraft changing too much, but immediately say that Minecraft's progression needs to change... Yet people complained when they added Netherite to the progression, replacing Diamond as the strongest material. It feels hypocritical to me, because I'm willing to bet that if they added more progression tiers people would complain that its "too different" from classic Minecraft.

It's the toxic community. I've only had a little bit of experience of programming (not on roblox studio) and sometimes, even the tiniest additions may require allot of effort to implement and considering how minecraft is a massive game and was written on java, it will take them allot of time to add a feature. They are even limited to very few ideas unlike april fools updates which is why those updates are massive. They even have to code the game again on for bedrock edition which will take even more time. But I guess they need to listen to the community a bit more

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Minecraft hasn't gotten more boring. We lost our imagination due to becoming adults and having to make money to survive and conform to societal norms.

The divide between creators and consumers have really become big. Every1 wants to just sit back and consume. Not have to use their brain.

My awnsers about the complaints: - Minecraft is changing: it has always been the case - Minecraft is boring: if you think this, you lack creativity, minecraft is a game about building - Development sucks: it doesn't, the updates are as great as ever, and Mojang is one of the few game companies that doesn't seem to burn out their employees, and in a world where that unfortunatelly happens a lot, this is amazing, I don't want the game I love to be the source of distress for devs and their loved ones

(IN MY OPINION) This wave of hate is unjustified and minecraft will weather the storm as it did 10 years ago. It was unjustified then to

So it's the nostalgia maniacs vs. the fanboys who'd go full on cope mode to justify the mediocrity that's going on in Minecraft development team (and most video games). Honestly, both parties should move on with their lives. It was a great game (yet not brilliant enough to perpetuate its replayability to a point of a decade), a great game, I repeat, and it indeed turned into a popularized product (again, just like any other video game), with questionable decision making to say the least, which lead into a game which is roughly ok, worse than it used to be, relatively, despite the added content.

Great video. Thanks for sharing

its unfortunate these videos get hundreds of thousands of views while this one only gets 15k when it is the significantly more nuanced and objectively more correct take on this discussion.

Every time I stop playing minecraft its because I need to enchant or have an elytra. Enchanting- the RNG sucks and you can't even get mending. Only one real option for gaining XP and it's boring. Additionally, trapping villagers is gross and moving them is annoying. Elytra- All my infrastructure and builds never used because I can fly.

Mojang: "Adds a huge update" community: OMG, ITS NOT MINECRAFTY!!! MOJANG IS LOOSING IT'S IDENTITY MOJANG ISN'T LISTENING TO ITS COMMUNITY MINECRAFT IS DYING Mojang: "Not adding huge updates" community: MOJANG IS LAZY MODDERS CAN ADD 100000000000000000000% MORE FEATURES IN 0.1 SECONDS MOJANG IS DYING MOJANG ISN'T LISTENING TO ITS COMMUNITY

The idea that the devs were lazy is manipulation and gaslighting in truth Minecraft players hate anything that isn’t Nazi propaganda

Minecraft is fun! But if you play enough of it, you are bound to get burnt out and feel that the "game is boring" but it's just the constant repetitive nature of playing the same game. It applies to all other games as well. So, just take some breaks, play new/other games and when you do that, you get newer ideas which you can later implement in minecraft and it won't feel boring. That's what I do haha. And if the new features/updates feel overwhelming, don't give up. You will get used to it and understand that the game is what you want it to be. Those additions are needed to keep the game updated and hey, you might even like them a lot! I used to think the 1.18 Caves and Cliffs update ruined the world generation but after playing it and comparing to older versions, I realized that it's not bad at all. And if I didn't like it, I would simply go back and play an older version

I think you are mostly right, just like I think Minecraft's recent critiques are mostly right. To me personally, Minecraft has always been boring, lacking in content, too easy, shallow and unpolished. The first thing that comes to my mind when I see Minercaft is unrealized potential. I only played it as a kid, just like I played crappy, low effort mobile games back then (not to say it's that bad; it's infinitely better). Good mods help solve some of my problems, and the game definitely gets closer to enjoyable for longer than a couple hours, though it's obviously not a solution. Various modders have different visions and their mods don't often make sense together. Or even work together, really. I can enjoy it for a few hours every few years (and even that may very well simply be nostalgia), but after that there really isn't anything particularly interesting left to do. You can easily get a diamond set, build a big house and a farm during your first day of playing. And then? No story or lore to discover, no further progression, nothing. That said, it's not like I hate Minecraft. It's undoubtedly a great game that shaped the entire industry. I just don't think it's for me. I am not sure why people are suddenly complaining about certain aspects of the game. I do agree with a lot of them, but as you said, most of those criticisms have been true for years. Perhaps they should just move on to other games that better satisfy them. If you feel similarly about Minecraft as I do, I would definitely recommend a game called Vintage Story. It solves nearly every problem described in Minecraft's critiques and keeps getting better still.

I personally really enjoyed the faster update rate where quantity was smaller but you could expect multiple updates each year. The reason for me liking this approach is part nostalgia from playing old minecraft and part because i prefer new content to be spaced out over smaller bits rather than everything at once since i get to look forward to new features and try them out sooner than if they were in a big update. Yes we have experimental features and snapshots but those usually don't get implemented in servers and with the constant readjustments of mechanics for balancing reasons & bugs it gets pretty jarring to get used to them. I do think backscaling update size would help with lowering expectations since currently if an update is not received well there is about a years period for the next one so people are going to be left waiting for the next update for longer which can cause frustration for players. Unpopular opinion but i thought the fire & ice update was actually pretty good since i liked the idea of smaller updates being released regularly compared to major updates, sadly this was not received well so idt we will go back to such a system anytime soon. One thing i think current Minecraft is held back by is parity and debugging with its other versions when it comes to new features, i remember hearing one of the reasons for bundle delays was because of issues with making it work with pocket edition of Minecraft. I do think this adds way more time to updates than before even if the new feature seems simple.

I honestly think minecraft has been going in a fantastic direction. From my experience, a lot of criticism of caves and cliffs is usually that it took so long, but 1: revamping an entire terrain generation system is hard to do right and do well and 2: the team specifically said they were taking longer for the health of their devs and to avoid crunch. I've always said I'd prefer a late game over an early one for this exact reason. Crunch is so prevalent in the modern triple A industry and it's incredible to see a company put the health of its devs before a few angry fans. We still got caves and cliffs, we still got wardens and bundles and chest boats. These updates are also free. The team deciding to scrap or delay things is perfectly valid. Players need to remember that the Mojang team are people too, which I think a lot of gamers tend to forget or just not care about. In regards to progression, I've watched the videos you mentioned before and I think they bring up some good points. I don't think the progression hurts minecraft's entertainment value by default, but I would love to see a new gamemode revolving around things like finding diamond templates in the nether and only getting netherite once you get to the end (maybe requiring dragon scales to add enchantments to it or something). I think a new gamemode instead of straight content could really expand Minecraft's appeal to those who like harder progression. I personally make a ton of rules for myself and install mods like Dungeon Difficulty to purposefully slow down how I play because I get overwhelmed otherwise. I made one challenge where I have to craft a portal from a ruined one, using obsidian found in chests, and can't use diamond tools or armor until I reach the nether and get one blaze rod for each piece or tool. Things like this as official gamemodes would be amazing and would provide new experiences and challenges for those looking to experience the difficulty of old school minecraft. If I eventually get decent at modding I'd love to make something like this. The only things I really don't like are minor tweaks, alongside chat report and reverting the account migration, as those have huge privacy and safety concerns. I personally am not a fan of the style of the sniffer and new plants, but they're growing on me, just like the new nether did. The biggest thing to refute any and all arguments regarding minecraft being boring or not hard enough is the existence of mods. Mods allow people to play how they want to and, with how easy modding is now between Modrinth and CurseForge, there's more freedom than ever to play minecraft how you want to. Edit: I do think minecraft has an issue with transportation. I think rockets which can power the elytra being harder to craft (one youtuber recommended dragon's breath rockets) and improving travel on horses, by boat and by minecart would help make the world feel a bit more fun and interesting to get around in. Also the ability to tweak which structures spawn and how often would solve the issue of people missing that lonely feel. I'm usually all for customizability in general and it can't hurt to add more modularity to the game.

I disagree vehemently. I'm too tired to make a long essay, so I'll focus on one topic and be brief: Games should force you to have fun. The fact Minecraft doesn't enforce fun / challenge anymore but you personally, Mr RU-vidr, manage to make your own fun is both an exceptional thing and a you thing. It's great you can make your own fun, I really believe that; most people, however, cannot or do not. Your ability to do that is a compliment for _you,_ not the game. Many people, including myself, see (or feel) this "forces you to have fun" aspect being missing and struggle to interact with the game. Your arguments in general, for me, all have this flaw; either you seem to miss what people are actually wanting from the game / what people saw in the old versions, or you write off people's struggles to engage with modern Minecraft because they lack the "make your own fun" ability while you do not. I think the vast majority of people would be fine if, for example, survival mode was bent towards what the older style players of Minecraft wanted - you know, an actual survival game about surviving - and adventure mode was changed into... well, what we have now! Then everyone wins! 😊

Most of the criticism these days about Minecraft is often highly contradictory, self entitled, like blaming the devs for their own burnout for playing the same game for a decade, or not adding exactly what that person wants to the game. They often call things many people use to be completely worthless no matter how many people use such a thing. Or be filled with blatant lies about the actual content of updates and everything the devs do. They work 8 hour shifts and have gone to 10-12 in the past working on updates and are always interacting with the community even in their spare time off the job. The changelogs alone this dev cycle alone would go on for hundreds of pages and that’s missing so much of the things they did. So often the false criticisms is just saying throw money at an ill defined issue as if that’s how coding works. Or try to quote how great modders are while ignoring several modders who now work at Mojang, how every known large modders they like to cite condemns these takes and refusing to list a single mod that can run on every device the game is on. So often you see people who pretend to provide valid criticism go off and call the modders of the game dickriders. Or anyone who’s even remotely aware of the bare minimum amount of research to know what’s in the updates. People think making a game with millions of lines of code twice at the same time for such a massive game is super easy that constantly throwing money at somehow solves. And I could say so much more. So much of that false criticism is just blatant lies that fall apart under 5 seconds of research and demanding they get what they themselves want regardless of anyone else. Also for people who say the game has lost its charm, what do they even want? What could they possibly add that’s wanted for them. Those kinds of people could never list what they’d even want in the game despite going on about “losing charm”. Same as people wanting more progression, they never list what they’d even want to add more progression. Or ignore all the people who liked beta more despite that having even less progression. And the people who always demand more and more content can’t even list anything they want other then ultra vague concepts like a mob or a structure or a dimension. Shows how difficult making this game is which they can never see.

Mojang has grown a lot as a company, and I would say that justifies higher expectations. Being okay with Mojang adding lackluster mobs because they'll add to it later is like saying it's ok for Ubisoft to release an unfinished game because they'll patch it later. Of course, Mojang is far better than Ubisoft in every way, but I think it's fair to expect a little more polish for each feature added.

I think the "new" textures are fresh and if they did not change it then there would be a lot less playing the game (atleast those who play vanilla)

gonna be honest, the recent irritation of the community has made me realize I'm just generally easy to satisfy XD

I like old Minecraft a lot because it is less automated. There's a lot of grinding, but there is a big sense of accomplishment when creating a massive build in beta when you know you worked really really hard not just to build it but to collect all of the resources. I still love modern Minecraft though.

The mojang glazing is crazy. Don’t get clouded by nostalgia this is just pure laziness. 6 months for an update that a single guy could’ve done in a day is absurd there is no getting around it.

The idea that the devs were lazy is manipulation and gaslighting in truth Minecraft players hate anything that isn’t Nazi propaganda

I’ve watched a handful of your videos. The content is well written, the volume mixing is great, and the editing is on point. I’d do yourself a favor and change that out to music though. I’ve heard it on so many other channels that it throws me for a loop when I hear it. It’s like that old happy ukulele music everyone used to use, if you know what I’m referring to.

Bro what Minecraft needs is a performance update my 1500 euro laptop gets 50 fps with 32 chunks since Minecraft is single threaded and does not utilize the GPU the optimization is so ass 😭😭😭

Honestly, I don't think they're making the right decisions considering what they focus on during recent updates (like performance, end dimension and overworld ambiance) but Mojang is under no obligation to update Minecraft any further. Since I bought the game over ...12 years ago? I don't even remember... I haven't paid a DIME for this game since then. People are just spoiled. People seem to foget that its s survival sandbox game, not an MMO, Minecraft isn't about it's progression system or even about beating it, beating MC is easy... It's right after beating it that it opens up. If you play MC for beating the enderdragon then you're quite boring. imo.

This is a really well made video. A while back, I found myself losing interest in Minecraft, but then, I started making resource and data packs. There's something special in adding or changing features of Minecraft that I just love. And I think that's also a charm of the game, "a place where everything is possible".

This video is right on the dot. I wish more people that watched those types of "Minecraft sucks" video essays watched this too to get a different perspective. Unfortunately defending Mojang isn't in season right now, so in the meantime, we'll continue to play, take breaks, and come up with unique goals as we please

honestly i love Minecraft however it does get a tiny bit dull after a while......I'll never stop loving it though. Yes its changed but i love it no matter what. If i feel lonely in game i just remind myself that theres villages with human-ish people.

I really like Better Than Adventure, a mod for beta 1.7.3 that adds new features in the direction the game was moving in at the time.

I agree (IN MY OPINION) minecraft's visuals has changed. I was around in indev i was around pre-1.14, i was around during/ post 1.14. I still think 1.14+ looks the best overall Indev's textures looked far too bright, almost garishly bright making the game hard to look at Pre-1.14 looks like the textures are in beta or the scribblings of a child half the time, the glass sucked and the old netherack looks just straight up bad however i do prefer the emerald block texture over the new one, if i had the old emerald block texture with the new emerald block texture's colours that would be perfect. As for post 1.14 most of these textures look super clean and appealing. I know some people think the textures look washed out but that's better than the textures being hard to look at (like you just turned on light mode on Discord at 1am) or reskins of each other in the case of the old ore textures or just really ugly in the case of the old netherack texture (IN MY OPINION)

Man i used to make fun of chills for his voice or whatever when i was younger but over the years he seems like a chill dude

I would totally play some alternative minecraft or make one myself. Too bad I'm sticking with bedrock.

Maybe its all the stuff mentioned in said videos😂

I either have deja vu or watched this video before, maybe even commented… but as I already started writing the comment and don't see o having old one there I'll post it. So, actually I think it's rather easy to tell what's actual and original identity is, it consist of a few things: - pixelated graphic style - blockiness of the world - big freedom of what to do and how to play - simplicity - they may be things that seems complex, but they ale break down to simple in game elements - being interrconnected - pretty much all mechanics are in some way help the other, or make it better (like enchanting makes mining better etc.) or are related in any other way. Nothing is a lone island. And it is all kept in modern Minecraft(after all... the new graphics are still in pretty much the same more pixelated style. Just more clean. Though to me too it take some times to get used to new graphics... one of the hardest part were wheat, granite, andesite, diorite, netherrack and glowstone. Frankly the thing that make me change to new graphic was how much uncompatible were nylium blocks with old netherrack(which I still preffer)). Which does change, sure, but mostly for the better. New structures are big part of that (though there are 2 I don't really like so much - Woodland mansion, because it feels like just so out of place with its completely different scale than other structures; and Bastions, because they often a big mess, kinda feeling like they couldn't choose if they are more like a cave or more like a structure) Though yeah some of the new additions seems a bit detached/halfbacked at times which kinda stray from the last element I mentioned... but it's still a minor issue. Well there is also one issue of some simply stupid pieces of Mojang mindset in regard of minecraft. Like straight up lying that vertical slabs woud inhibit creativity(I mean noone could realistically be THIS stupid), or that sleepbag would be bad becaus "they take away uniquness of the bed" and thing like that. Also the stronge prefference towards kinda "forcing" player to not kill new passive mobs (by making them not really drop anything... while in few cases they definitely should!) And I think that the worst part about often half-backed mobs is not just how limited drop/use cases they have, but also with how obvious the improvement to them seems (sniffer is definitely a prime exampe here). Also progression… isn't really and issue. The issue are people who see it as the goal of minecraft, while progression is simply means to and end(I mean even for a sandbox we can just say progression can mean anything... that would make the word kinda meaningless). And is for the most part optional. You don't want to bother gathering iron? (even though even in worst cases it take just about hour to get full iron armor and basic tools) You can just do with stone tools and build things from wood and rocks. You want to conquer the end get netherite etc? Sure You can - in mosty situation - get to diamonds and enchanting quickly. You want to kill the dragon quick? You can. (Even ridiculously fast with speedrunning but where's the fun in that?) But you can also do is slower or just never. It's a sandbox after all so all options are equally valid. No matter if it would be done on peaceful, hardcore or whatever in between. Player can go through progression fast or take it as slow as he/she wants to. And that is part of the beauty of minecraft.

In my opinion, the main reason the Minecraft community has been turning on Mojang these past few years is the increasing bar of what makes a good update nowadays. Back in the old days, updates that only added a couple new blocks and items were seen rather positively, but those types updates would just not be accepted in the modern day. It's because Mojang from 1.13 to 1.18 had an excellent streak of updates where each update is better than the last, meaning anything less than amazing is now seen as mediocre. The direction that 1.19 went in didn't help either. As TheMisterEpic pointed out in his video about Caves and Cliffs, 1.19 sparked the notions such as "Mojang is lazy", "Mojang don't listen to the community", "If mods can do it, why can't Mojang?". And as a result, every update ever since has been living in the shadows 1.13-1.18, struggling to see the same success as those updates.

As someone who has been here since 2009 (i watched a lot of videos before i played in 2011) ive seen this community become what it is, a toxic hell hole. But then again anything that becomes big ends up bringing “toxic” people. Mind you theres a difference between toxic and passionate fans of things, i happen to be passionate but i cant deny with people like Dream who helped build toxicity in Minecraft (not directly but still his stans are toxic to this day) but it was bound to happen. Minecraft definitely has lost its original identity but so do all games when they have 15 years of development, just look at bedrock edition shoving micro transactions down our throats. Visually the new textures are meh and its easy to use a texture pack so, but even finding diamonds have changed. I still like Minecraft but not as much as i once did, i just play with my friends in a server so its a change of pace from not playing with others.

one thing that I dont see much in this conversation is the modding community. I remember when I was a kid what kept be going back to minecraft was all the mods and maps. Nowadays there just arent as many mods? As in it seems like the mod developers that made the most fun and unique mods kind of moved on with their lives. And now we have like three different mod loaders, and weird compatibility issues with that and all that. But idk it just was better in older versions. This is what I think makes the counter intuitive statements at 11:06 both be valid points. As in, minecraft used to be a since simple starting point for mods to add on top of, Minecraft kept getting more complicated and rather than aiding the modding scene just kind of made people give up it seems. Which ironically means that the community looks towards the developers to fill that role. Which doesnt work, as we can see.

Thanks for this video ! I was fed up by all the hate speech about the lazy devs ect

I totallty agree with everything, besides the part about development. Cause if you think change is bad or you're getting bored, just take a break i definitely agree. But in terms of the development, It really does suck. Other games manage to produce more engaging content in a shorter amount of time than minecraft can. 1 update a year is ridiculous, especially when you consider that at most there is 10 new and unique features that aren't just filler(like a new wood type or building block). And their excuse about "we have to remake it in two different versions" is unacceptable. Becuase no other gaming studio has to do that, and thats because the devs created this problem for themselves. Instead of making minecraft into a united version, they had to split it into two vastly different versions: Bedrock and Java. This issue is their fault, so they cant use it as an excuse.

I think the issue is that Minecraft is a sandbox base building game but mojang keeps trying to make it an action adventure game. Mojang seems to be forcing players into playing the game the way Mojang wants them to play. Removing farms, removing unintended features, changing the copper bulb to stop players from innovating with redstone, and many recent features being unrenewable to prevent farms so players have to "adventure".

I seem to be in a class of one here but I don't particularly appreciate how the last three updates have focussed on the RPG element and NOT the sandbox element.

i am so sick of the "minecraft bad" videos thank you for making this one

Well sucks to be you guys who find it boring, but I haven't played it since the early beta versions, and I have returned recently. I think it has come a long way and is awesome. But I do not play vanilla. And as for Bedrock... F that. EDIT: Minecraft's progression HAS always been ajar. But with mods... anything is possible :D.

You pretty much summed up how I feel towards the "hate" Minecraft is getting and how I play the game. I started playing in 2012 and in a Singleplayer world. Now I play almost every weekend with my brother on our LAN world and it has been really fun. We already killed the dragon but we haven't explored the End yet, we are working on a massive base and taking breaks in between by exploring and fighting raids. I can't get enough of it.

The issue with mojang is that they have no actual ability to integrate any feature into the game, they have lost the concept of the game loop and thus everything has fallen due to that, there's a reason this critique has grown and... also probably why I got banned from twitter for saying It would be funny if someone threw an IED at mojang... Anyways, modern features are horribly implemented, they clash or have no function within the game to make them anything but niche, you can make a web of actions to get an item, some items like diamonds required many other actions, thus getting them and them not having a use was not as much of a deal because to get them, you also got the infrastructure, weather this is blocks, iron, or other materials, to do so, but for pots or sniffers? they are so isolated and easy to get that they are useless, they have no point, they are visionless, their textures clash with the game so hard for no reason, and the reward for it? A really awful textured flower, incredible. There is no entry back into the gameloop for new items, it is things you have to go out of your way to do and the reward is meaningless, to find diamonds you at least need to get wood, and a base, and storage, and fuel, and explore and mine and reveal more resources, by the end, you have diamonds in order to continue this loop you have begun, minecraft *SHOULD* die, it needs to, there's no more that can be done because mojang has no more vision.

10:24 and that is over for most people i've played with that's why i don't play multiplayer anymore people are no fun

Did he really use stick shift, analog clocks and physical hard cover books as "nostalgia" items that arent really relevant in todays society? Except for the US most cars are stick shift (and they are better), analog clocks are superior to digital ones to this day and the same goes with hardcover books. Not only cuz you actually own them, they hold longer and studys have shown learning and reading is better for the brain with them. Ik that ahs nothing to do with the video, but think more about your arguments and use good ones instead of subjective ones

7:40 wait... you don't have that where you live? i haven't seen any car without it yet XD

Personnally im super triggered at these youtubers because they seem to always forgets that Mods exists and thus pretty much all their 'the game is now boring' aren't valid at all; and don't get me started on the 'minecraft has changed' implying it's bad thing, like think about it comparing it to other game that lasted around that much time : would you still play games such as League of Legends, Warframe, Rimworlds, Rust etc and/or see new player if they didn't change since the old days?

Its not Mojang or even Minecraft really. Its the way those people play the game and how they perceive progression.

Its just not hard anymore. Theres no challenge after the first hour of play. Its just grinding after that.

People don't hate for no reason. Hate is always ingnited by soemthing that came before it. In this case, Mojang's insistence on taking minecraft into a direction the community doesn't appear to like very much.

Minecraft had never a defidenan identity, and that's why its failing. The devs just add random things and expect people tome amazed like in 2011.

Dialko did a pretty good job explaining why beta is fun. A lot of the time youtubers don't play the old version of Minecraft so they can't see the real reasons why it was good.

Awesome video i have just subscribe to your channel ❤

a lot of them are downplaying minecraft so they can sell their patreon "mods"

I cant really explain it, but I enjoy older versions more. They feel much more fun even tho they have less stuff in them. The newer versions feel kinda... bland.

Idk why folks are so mad, the game’s awesome

Is Mojang getting lazy video actually concluded that Mojang is not lazy

Surprised (besides hytale and vintage story) no one rose up and said "U know what i can do better" and made a true minecraft killer or a game surpassing it

Honestly both answers, +1 which is microsoft, on the top.

I watched another video similar to this one he brought up a good point that they are playing Minecraft as a RPG and not as a Sandbox.

What's worse, this or "mojand devs lazy" under every mod/datapack video