What Some Christians Get Wrong About Money 

Amen❤

This is the verse that came to my mind as soon as I saw the title. I haven't watched the video yet, but I'm guessing it's people defending money. Little do they know that you can't eat money but faith will sustain you.

They're both crosses I would say. There are many Saints who were dirt poor, but there were many that were Kings. Both come with their own set of temptations.

Don't worry what dam people think tgey r mean as hell u don't worry

@@WoodRabbitTaoist bull

This is not the Gospel.. .

@@boogotti1173”No one comes to the Father except through the Son…” Yes, the gospel was presented here.

@@johannad9882 that's not the gospel Either. U and I broke Gods law and Jesus paid the fine. U have to repent of your sins. And trust in Jesus like u trust a parachute.. and then he will Regenerate your heart.

He did not preach the gospel, he, handled GOD'S word very deceitfully and you fail for it

Amen!❤❤❤

“Poverty is the Royal Virtue” St Francis

On point.

That's for the Bishop or others... That work on Church...

Yeah, that really answers a lot. 🙄. Could you be any more vague??

Satan is lying to u. Get saved and run to Jesus for salvation before it's too late for u..

My pastor says the same! He also says he will never talk about tithing because that’s between us and the Lord.

Does your pastor Tickle your ears or does he preach bible truth about hell and sin.

I grew up in a Church that is now considered a "mega-church", and I choose to only attend smaller churches now. In my current church, there is so much fellowship, love, and sharing of the Gospel. Additionally, the church body also has numerous ministry opportunities in giving our time to others such as: helping the poor directly by partnering with a local Christian Food Bank where we can volunteer to feed and fellowship with the homeless. We assist anyone who struggles to find employment, and more. It is a wonderful feeling to give back, and to do as God commands us to do.

@boogotti1173 do you recall that Jesus Christ saved a woman from being stoned to death for committing adultery? Why would He do that if there shouldn't be a balance between mercy and justice? I get what you're trying to say but as much as someone can be too lenient about sin, you can also be too harsh about it too. Jesus Christ sat in the company of society's "outcasts" and "sinners". He helped a lot of people that society deemed "unworthy" at the time. You know who He didn't spend much time with? Those who unjustly and unfairly passed judgement on others. He rarely gave them the time of day, except to correct them. Jesus Christ makes it clear that we need to repent of sin. He also makes it very clear that He loves us. If you cannot make it clear that you want people to repent AND that you love them, you are not acting as a good example of Jesus Christ. You need both in order to encourage and inspire REAL change in others. You can hardly beat and batter others with words to force them into change. Good luck just telling them they are sinners and are going to hell.

​@@andrewmarshall7569Our church do the same. It's weird,its non profit but still able to do all of it.

He did an actual sermon through LifeChurch and it was great, if you haven’t seen it

lol. Me neither. He was preaching! My only thing is, and I could be wrong but I think he also teaches tithing? Other than that, he is preaching good!

@@sherrifortson6810Tithing is biblical though

He is just a money makeing man

@@Rook98766 Bruh, lol we all are money making Men. How else do you support you life and family. lol. Good Lord.

Praying for you and your family to be blessed.

Build wealth & make a difference for Him!

Go forth!!! And make your money lil Sis in Christ❤❤❤❤❤

Boom 💥 and remember it’s all His. Such a good call and you brought out such an excellent teaching point for Dave to go off on…and he did!

God bless

Acts So they said, “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household(each individually). Romans 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved

WRONG!!! YOU MUST ACT FIRST!!! Then Jesus forgives your sins and accepts you through your faith. BUT...there is still MORE that Jesus said we must do!! To say that "I can't do anything to be saved"

@@josephcernansky1794 Of course not. to become saved we "obey" God by believing on the Son. If we are doing something to help him save us, then we are literally elevating ourselves to be equal with Him. He is God manifested in the flesh. He did the deeds of living a perfect, sinless life and dying on the cross to atone for our sin debt. Then said, It is finished. We trust that he says he is who he says he is, and in what he did. We receive the holy spirit. Then we "work" to follow him obeying his ways and not sinning (shouldn't have the desire to sin and behave the same way as before). We will never be perfect though(hence why we need Jesus imputed righteousness). Of most importance in our being a servant of his is spreading the gospel.

@@josephcernansky1794 Perhaps take some time and immerse yourself in a study of justification versus sanctification. Also, the differences between the Great White Throne and the Bema Seat.

Christ told the rich young ruler to sell all he had because it was a barrier to him being able to see and understand. It's not money itself that's evil or bad it's the love of it that's idolatry. Money is just a tool to get through this world and having a lot is a good thing if your priorities are right. Wished there were a lot more rich Christians because they know what money is for. It's for the preservation of your house and to be charitable with so that even G_D's enemies will praise Him because of you especially when they are in need. Who knows maybe even win some for His glory. Money takes a certain wisdom that I wished Christians had more of. It's stewardship. If your called to be generous then be generous. Nothing is lost when done for the Lord.

Many poor people may have generous hearts and give of what they have but I think he means they don't have the means to feed the poor in large quantities. It's the rich who do. But of course all things are possible to him who believes.

He was making a point about proportion, obviously. Yes, one poor person can cooks a little extra and maybe feed 1-2 other poor people, but not much more than that and not for very long. Plus, in American anymore there really isn't any such thing as "poor people" unless you're on drugs or have a mental illness: anyone willing to live by a very simple set of expectations like don't do drugs and be a decent person can find food, shelter, clothing, and utilities: all the basics are covered. And have you noticed a lot of "poor people" in the USA aren't exactly skinny? Many are obese because they spend their food stamps on highly processed food and easy to fix stuff that has little nutritional value but tons of calories. It's hard to argue that there's a starvation problem in the USA, even with so-called "food deserts" which really just means you might have to travel 5 miles to get fresh food. Oh the horror! Our ancestors who walked 20 miles a day thought nothing of it, but today it's a violation of your Constitutional Rights if someone doesn't deposit fresh fruit and veggies on your door step.... anyway, rant over. The point is Dave's talking about feeding hundreds and thousands of people in countries where people literally starve to death if no rich person steps in. The poor aren't sending $10,000 a month to a town in the Philippine to feed 500 people.

You can’t do much for yourself, let alone anyone else when you’re poor.

Jesus was the poorest no home and barely any money, and feed thousands in one sitting. Many rich people can not manage that. Exception to Ramsey saying.

Ys but that isn’t what he means… he’s talking about feeding the large populations of poor.. it takes loads of money to do it so it isn’t the poor that feeds the poor.. yes it is true that the poor are usually the most generous and will feed those in front of of them.. but they don’t feeds thousands of people starving at once…

What a stupid comment. Essentially dissing EVERY Christian in 3rd world countries who are poor simply from not having the freedoms you obviously take for granted. I would NOT want be your soul on judgment day 😅

@tracym8952 👍

He also wanted you to have slaves and value a woman less than a man. Who cares what that nut wanted.

Well said.

Being poor you can also give charity

Best said

It happens all of the time. I'm worried because my husband is going into a line of work that could make a good chunk of money and I don't want us to become those kind people who show their wealth. I've seen too many women at church with Louis Vuitton bags (most of which cost anywhere around $1000 and more) and wondered who they could've fed or helped with that amount of money.

I​@@youtubecommentator6023 you don't know how many people they are feeding. It's not up to you to judge how pepople manage their wealth, it's up to you to manage your heart, that's it.

You need to stop worrying about others and focus on yourself. If you spend your mental energy focusing on a sinful world you handicap yourself. Go do good things and stop worrying about what people think!

He opposes the proud and gives grace to the humble

That’s really true. We can get off course as a result of listening to bad counsel. “In a multitude of counselors there is great wisdom”. There’s always someone who will be dismissive of our goals. Keep pressing towards Jesus!

Yes!

Thank you! You got it! God wants us to be abundant, cultivate abundance and be a good steward of abundance he gives us! Abundance includes financial. Idk why ppl can’t get it!

Prosperity gospel is so evil. It's horrific

Repent and believe the Gospel bro. You know it’s true. You just don’t want to give up your sin.

@@JB-ku7kvstop telling people what they do or don't believe. You don't even know that persons name, let alone their thoughts. Stop letting religion hijack your mind

@@JB-ku7kv Save it for church buddy.

​@@MotownModelsBoth of y'all need to get saved!!!

According to google, it’s the root of all KINDS of evil, not the root of all evil. Wouldn’t make sense for money to be the root of all evil because Eve bit the Apple before money was invented, I think

🗣️ PREACH!!! The lack of knowledge causes people to perish!!!

​@@adr3naline23he wants you to take care of yourself. I don't know what "stacking" money means. If you are financially independent it only helps you to live more confidently rather than be beholden to money to live on.

​@@adr3naline23I want to hold my breath on the "coming back to destroy it all" idea. Destroying it all has nothing to do with it anyhow. I thought Jesus was coming back to bring people to heaven.

Awesome statement about context 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

Amen!

I'll give you the midwestern version of amen, YOU BETCHA!

Beautiful attitude. And thank you for serving our country.

The best comment you just made, "money is just a tool to do God's work". Those of us who live in the USA have the ability to take our God given ambition and make that profitable and then have the ability to bless others. (really it blesses us more though. I love how God works...)

Vicki, thanks for your service to our country. Go thrive in life. You earned that pension, do w it how you see fit.

This needs to be pinned to the top!

That doesn't sound very "impossible"; if you take that analogy it would follow that it is possible for mankind to save themselves. Also, I'm not aware that there is any evidence such a gate of that name ever existed in Jerusalem. By any serious reading of the text, Jesus meant the eye of an actual needle.

@@chrisgoodchild you are welcome to interrupt anyway you see fit. But there is an actual gate in Jerusalem called "the eye of the needle" and it's very very small which makes it nearly impossible for a cammel to get through. Please Google "eye of the needle Jerusalem"

What Dave is saying is junk.... He's a liar

​@@ElijahDavis41why?

@@cheyenneoliver5835 Because he's lying and handling the word of GOD deceitfully

​@ElijahDavis41 I think you will find there are many many ways of interpreting the bible, hence why there are so many religions. Atleast Dave is a good human being.

It would be easier for a camel to pass through the eye if a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.

@@76ersALLDAY Just the type of comments that comes from humans. Humans wrote the stories.

I dunno, listening to Dave’s explanation, it was want too convincing, really seems like a convenient justification. Did Jesus live in a big house and drive a fancy chariot like Dave does?

But the Bible is unethical.

@@76ersALLDAY It depends on your reasoning for building wealth. Is it for selfish ambition? Is it to fill a void in your life? Is it because you worship money? Or is it to help your family, help the poor etc?

Because many preachers just think about money.

Amen

Sad part is he's a liar and you can't see it

​@@ElijahDavis41Examples?

@@jimfinigan1681 Examples?

What a ridiculous statement.

Genesis 38: 8-10

Worse than a non believer? Cmon

Romans 10:9 if you declare with your mouth "Jesus is Lord" and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved This book always contradicting itself.

Just how bad is an unbeliever? Asking for a friend.

@@johnengland8619ikr?!? Guess we aren’t welcome here - cuz we bad! It’s a bit of a double standard that unbelievers have to respect all religions but we can be criticized as being “worse than”? Worse than what? How bad are we? Can’t we all just get along?

True

Poor people can also love money even if they dont have it

Being rich and hoarding wealth or spending money on things you don't really need or on luxury when there are poor people among us is very much against Jesus' teachings. There's no way around that.

​@@SirArghPirateAmen

What is the difference exactly, though?

Yes. The one who didn't invest. who just buried the money in a hole, got his money taken away from him.

​​​@@stephengamber7000probably got taxed into oblivion by the Government and then inflation got him 😂

Yeah hard workers for advancing the kingdom of God. Not working hard for money,

It's a parable about using the gifts (talents) that GOD gives us.... Not about investing money. That's why it used the word "talents" and not "money". But carnally minded people will hear "money" in this scripture because that's where their mind is. "Where your treasure is their will your heart be also" (Mat 6:21). For to be carnally minded is death but to be spiritually minded is life and peace (Rom 8:6-8). The parable about the master, the servants and the talents was about bearing fruit using the gifts (talents) that GOD gives us and those who use their gifts (talents)and bear fruit, GOD will give those servants more. But to those who don't use their gift/gifts (talents) but make excuses as to why they didn't use them, GOD will take their gifts (talents) away.

Think the ‘talents’ in this parable can represent the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We are instructed to take this Gospel and share it with others in order that people would hear and believe and the Kingdom of Jesus might increase. This parable shows us that to receive the gift of the Gospel and simply hide it, is wrong. Not about materialism...

Blanket statements are tough to nail, but i'd say you nailed that one.

You mention path, it literally says the word of the Lord is a lamp onto my feet, and a light unto my path. Then you see in John one Jesus is the Word made flesh, BUT in John 14 he says it’s better that he goes to heaven to be our advocate before the father so the Holy Spirit can be the one who enlightened us inside us. That said, do not neglect the gathering with other believers, that is something Scripture says, yes we are to pray that the Holy Spirit in lightens us to the scripture and we don’t have to believe everything everyone says, but we do have to keep being iron to others sharpening them and letting them sharpen us. Keep in physical community, even Jesus came in the flesh and lived among us. We can handle being among all types of people seeking God too.

Don’t listen to people’s misinterpretations of the Bible but create your own misinterpretations by following your own path. Totally makes sense

Follow Jesus

Does the Bible say to follow your own path tho?

I had someone at church tell me you can't not go through life without a car payment. I just kept my mouth shut.

We need more churches to teach about stewardship

Exactly! Being a good steward of what God has blessed you with is taught throughout Scripture.

Right, as if the world is persecuting them and it somehow makes them more worthy or something.

Talents not talons but you got the right idea 😊

Very good point.

@@colnathanrjessup687 LOL Its all good

And worth over 55 million 😮

It's because they are poor and the pastor makes them feel good about their situation.

@@jasonrodgers9063 no, it's because he wants to manipulate them that tithing makes them good christians

@@jasonrodgers9063 thats what I thought too

@@jasonrodgers9063 Basically. And I'm not saying it's the same for everyone, but a lot of those same people are poor because of the poor life choices they made. And to hear it from someone with some sort of apparent authority helps them justify in their minds their irresponsible lifestyle and life choices. Everyone seems to forget the parable of the Talents. What God makes us stewards of he will hold us accountable for how responsible we were with it and there will be consequences both good and bad depending on how we administered it.

Mother Theresa….

Facts! Tithe and offerings, the Bible says And going through your trials and tribulations that God puts us through, which trains us not to walk in lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes, and pride of life

This is a terrible idea. Churches are tax-exempt and a lot of church leaders are p3d0s, if not straight up scam artists preying on scared people. Don't donate to churches. God does not give a damn if you give 10% of your money to a scam artist. No matter how much money you have, you leave it all when you die. And it's not like you aren't "giving" your money out and sitting on a 100M pile of cash. It is invested in companies that employ others. Your money trickles down. Just don't use your money to do bad stuff.

What a scam. The church teaches that you need to give money to them in order to get to heaven? Sounds like a racket to me.

@@jakecosenza69Corruot church used to demand money by using out of context scripture and manipulating the poor in order to get rich, I will not deny that. They were wrong and went against God in every way. The giving of money to church however stays and it helps keep churches open and fund foundations with which the church works with. Christians are meant to give to all who are in need.

@@jakecosenza69no that’s actually not what it teaches. Maybe instead of trying to put words in the Bible’s mouth you should just stay quiet when you have no idea what you are talking about.

Thank you!! That’s it!! Money isn’t evil. It’s just a tool! It’s when we choose money over God is the when the issues come!

I think the eye of the needle is referred to the side door in a walled city that stays open at night when the main gates are closed. A camel would have to be unloaded then pushed through to get through these small doors.

This is a myth. All Christian archeologists agree, The smaller door in a gateway, was not called the "eye of the needle," and there never was a gateway called "the eye of the needle" in Jerusalem.

Too much pride to humble themselves to believe on Jesus as their savior. The world says "seeing is believing", God says, Believe and then he will reveal himself to you(so true).

Just another example of you can interpret "the Bible " however you want.

I was checking comments for it. Thanks

Thank you for that. I was mighty confused looking for this verse in my own Bible. Sure enough, here it is ... Righteous.

Yup. Being wealthy will have a lot of responsibility attached to it. Some aren't mature enough or spiritually equipped to handle wealth.

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You should talk to fewer of the dumb Christians. Even better, let's just have you talk to fewer dumb people. Christian or otherwise. I'm sorry if these are your family members. It is a wonderful thing to isolate yourself from fools. I highly recommend it.

I might start with getting some separation from anyone who says "something is an idol' in a biblical sense. That is a weird thing to say that should be kept at church and possibly at home. It shouldn't be used to help someone in life.

Depends on how you are defining success.

@@jamisojo Yeah it's hard to take someone seriously that says that. It tells me they don't understand what idols are. They're ANYTHING that you put ahead of God in your heart. That's not a specific thing and you can have something as an idol, but then realize it, put God first and it's no longer an idol.

lmaaaooooooo I read this comment right as he spoken it 🤯😂 what a crazy coincidence

That's not a Dave saying, he got that straight out of the Bible!

Joel Osteen goes afther there money heard he puts money behind the church walls they found it fake

I wouldn't give her a dime if that is how she feels. Release yourself from that silly guilt. Unless she is unwell in the head. If that is the case you might be able to get power over her finances.

You are correct; this behavior is not biblical.

My mother used to say: “the Lord helps those who help themselves”.

Wow. I thought this message was from me it’s so similar to my situation!

My mom had more than I do due to my illness. She donated every month to different causes. But as she got older, I started calling the political ones and ones that overpay CEOs and pretending to be her to take her off the mailing list.

@TJ-rf1xl So you're are saying that using scriptures should not be done by christians? Huh?

​​@@Sheryl777scripture shouldn't be weaponized in order to make your point. I would put it that way. I suppose it depends on the context in which it is used. It should inspire people and not be used to beat them into submission. (I don't know who would submit because they lost an argument anyhow)

@@jamisojo 👍 Agree that scripture shouldn't be used to beat people into submission! I post scriptures because first of all I believe in the scriptures, and second, I want people to know that being rich (alone) will not keep them out of heaven (as so many seem to believe when we read the comments). No, I am not rich, as people in the USA think of "rich", but I am rich when compared to many other people around the world, which proves that what we may think of as "middle class" in the US, people in much poorer countries would think of as being rich.

You should still read Scriptures. Don't let hypocrites come between you and Jesus

​@@georgewagner7787it is all about Jesus is God and what He did. Don't focus on other people(professed "c hristians). Focus on Christ.

Did Jesus go around telling the poor to help others?

He died and that was the end of it. He didnt go to heaven or hell because those dont exist and this person likely didnt either as the story was made up.

We don't know. But if he was sorrowful he would have had some belief in Christ.

No he doesn't. You and Dave are condemned without a savior

@@boogotti1173 You didn't watch the video did you? I've never seen so much ignorance condensed into so few words before.

@@bjugler oh I watched it. He had a false conversion.. what about u . Where are u in it

He sure does. He's an upcoming prosperity preacher to the oversaturated American capitalism industry. Shame that Americans can do anything for a buck.

Exactly brother

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None of that is real.

@@jmorris023 and how do you know that? or is that just your opinion? God is Real and Jesus dying on the Cross to save people from their Sin is True and Historically Accurate my Friend

​@@jmorris023 if you have something to say, why don't you say it clearly?

wise have wealth and luxury. how they get wise? Fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom!

The ultra wealthy are greedy though. Even the stock market is motivated by fear and greed.

Yes hence the 'LOVE' of money that the bible mentions. Money itself isn't an issue.

@@EsiriE Sounds like cope to me. If you are greedy then just own it. Stop trying to hide behind being righteous. If you follow Jesus, it is clear that he didn't give two shits about money of any kind.

@@matthewphillips5483 no, you’re biblically illiterate. You “religious” people think poverty is soo righteous and wealth is a sin and that’s fake humility

@@matthewphillips5483 the bible discusses money in great detail.

Or Jesus rebuking the leaders for letting the widow give her last bit of money instead of taking care of her.

​@@jackiechoate6163yes. Often this aspect gets overlooked. Unfortunately its not taught in this manner.

Sometimes the Christians are the ones with the money. I guess I would just say people in general can be jealous of other people. Your faith identification doesn't make you a good or bad person in and of itself.

Religion will do that to you.

@@jmorris023 That or she started smoking menthols at 10.

@@jmorris023how

Class's act guys real nice

That's not very nice. It's irrelevant how old she sounds & a difficult life together with overcoming difficulty can age u significantly. Be kind to others, it costs nothing

Some (I didn't say all) of the poor people in the USA are rich compared to certain people in various other countries. They would say many of our poor here in this country are rich compared to them, and in a sense, that is true.

Yes. It is interesting, but the words are often used interchangeably.

Yes. Great point. I always liked that story.

The last servant even admits that he knows the master takes from other fields that aren't his, and the master doesn't even deny it. The master further says it would've been better to have earned interest on the one talent at a bank. I always find it wild to see the language Jesus uses to describe God, but in this case, I think it makes the point that, ironically, it's the greedy and wicked that can more readily understand how God is because they do the same thing, except with money instead of grace.

Yep. The Parable of the Talents. I was just saying, they seem to ignore that one.

I always looked at this as God using an analogy of money, but it was about growing God's kingdom. Being a productive, useful servant (i.e. sharing the gospel that saves souls of most importance)

what do you think about the rich tv pastors like Joel Osteen with a networth of 100 million and kenneth copeland with networth of 300 million dollars? I think they set a bad example for us. At a certain point, how much money do you need? If I were them, I would help the poor every single day

@@cutehumor I think that Copland is a wolf is sheep's clothing (bad clothing at that). My comment was not to support the prosperity gospel. It was to reject BOTH the prosperity gospel AND the poverty gospel. I found Dave's take on this to be refreshing

@@cutehumor How do you know that Joel and Kenneth AREN'T helping the poor? Are you in charge of their finances in order to know for a fact they don't? Or do you (like so many others) go by what people online say about them in order to form your opinions? I don't run their finances, and I can't say one way or the other, but that's the thing...none of us here (most likely) run their finances either to be able to say that they are either stingy or generous.

@@Sheryl777 Osteen did not initially open his Lakewood Church doors for those affected by Hurricane Harvey. Wolf in sheep's clothing. God is the Judge.

Ecclesiastes 5:19 "Every man also to whom God hath given riches and wealth, and hath given him power to eat thereof, and to take his portion, and to rejoice in his labour; this is the gift of God."

I think the line can be drawn at Loving God. If you love God you will follow him. If you love money you will sacrifice and do anything for it, which would make it your god. If you will give up your morals, not take care of your family, and do anything unethical to get money then you Def love it. My thoughts.

You can't provide for your family for the rest of their lives if you don't have great wealth saved up and at least somewhat disciplined spending. Buying things with the intent to show people that you are wealthy would have nothing to do with taking care of your family. That may not cover everything but that's a good start to a boundary. The wealth is important because you can't take care of your family if you become disabled or you die early and end up not being able to work.

​@@solck7286you can apply rules that are very good advice that are unrelated to faith in god also. Not everyone sees the world through the lens of a believer. Yet, they still need good advice to live by.

Good points and questions! I feel you

Of course because I would bet you are on the higher end of net worth in America and you love Dave's opinion on this, lol It's not rocket science to figure your motivation!

@@GAFB1122 … or it could be because I agree that money is a tool. I actually make less than 100K per year and am not a millionaire. However, I look at those who have money to see what I can emulate instead of being jealous that they have something that I don’t. The right perspective can make all of the difference.

​​@@GAFB1122does that mean that you are a foolish person who thinks that having money is sinful? I have to ask because your comment does not seem unbiased or polite. It seems like you needed to speak up about why you think they liked it. Even though you don't really know anything about the commenter.

@jamisojo I think if or when you live a life of EXCESS, then you are not Godly. Many with money live a life of EXCESS regardless of how much they give. Take that however you like! Bye