What Sonic Heroes Could Have Looked like

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Sonic Heroes Released nearly 20 years ago and there was a GREAT amount of cut content or changed content in the game. So in today's video, we're going to look at What Sonic Heroes Could Have Looked like. Also thank you all so much for 5000 Subscribers. we're halfway to 10K so LOCK IN!!!
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00:00 - What Sonic Heroes COULD have looked like
1:01 - Development Struggles
3:22 - Concept/Unused content
5:53 - Prototype intro
7:21 - Prototype Music
8:52 - 20-year-old PS2 Beta
11:17 - This game COULD be great
12:02 - THANK YOU FOR 5000 SUBS!!!!!

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2 июл 2024

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@redbop_ 4 месяца назад

nearly dying from working on a blue hedgehog game is fucking insane

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

This sonic shit is serious. Be ready to die behind it

@rynobehnke8289 4 месяца назад

The most ridicules part is. That wasn't even the first time. This is as one of Sonic X-Tream's developers also worked himself nearly to death.

@redbop_ 4 месяца назад

@@rynobehnke8289 if i had a nickel for every time a sonic developer was overworked and nearly died, i'd have two nickels. which isn't a lot, but it's weird it happened twice

@moosesues8887 4 месяца назад

I would too I would die for the goat

@rvght_ 4 месяца назад

Wouldn’t even have been the first time this shit has happened lol cheek out sonic xtreme’s story

@WhatIsMatter101 4 месяца назад

Sonic Team on every Sonic game released: the game had a troubled development.

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

It’s really unfortunate cause Sega dosent think there BIGGEST franchise is worth the time or money, when frontiers literally proves otherwise.

@TekRonan 4 месяца назад

For possible context to the vocals on the prototype intro theme, it is actually pretty common for musicians to hum/mumble/scat/whatever a melody over the instrumental so they remember it when writing the song. As someone who makes music myself and has watched streams and such of others recording music, this is actually a very valid technique that makes it so the vocalist has a vocal blueprint to write to.

@PCFROMVCS 4 месяца назад

Yeah, just place holder lyrics. Sounds hilarious though

@5framesgaming 3 месяца назад

this exactly. its very common to come up with the melody before the lyrics. sometimes that wordless melody ends up on a demo! XD

@8BitPreston 3 месяца назад

Johnny was asked about this and confirmed this is what he did

@NoNamex1412 4 месяца назад

I loved when cloud, aerith and tifa fought neo metal Sepiroth and then they said "Because we're Final Fantasy"

@TheOneAndOnlyJanitor. 4 месяца назад

The best part was whenn they said "it's final fantasing time" and final fantased all over the place

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

The FF7 transition is working 😈

@NoNamex1412 4 месяца назад

@@shaulov10 there isn't a maria boss fight so ff7 is a 0/10 game

@Terminal_Apotos 4 месяца назад

Metal Sepiroth, leak Tifa’s Noods

@FuzHammer 4 месяца назад

Sonic Hearts

@sinfulrat287 4 месяца назад

During development for music they usually hum to get the rythm for the vocals before they start implementing them, kinda just feeling out the song before sticking with it and adding vocals

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

Aahhh I see ok that makes sense

@matthewponce1942 3 месяца назад

Knowing now that Iizuka was virtually the only level designer when this game has probably one of the best designed stages makes me respect this man even more

@RegisteredFelon-ki8be 4 месяца назад

“A game, with a delayed release, with eventually be good. But a game that is rushed, will forever be bad”

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

Wise words from Nintendo

@Lime-AID 4 месяца назад

"Stop Making up I didn't say"- Gengis Kahn

@WhatIsMatter101 4 месяца назад

It was actually from the game developer Origin (their internal motto and the guys who made Wing Commander). The phrasing is different, but the meaning is the same.

@elibonham4388 3 месяца назад

Halo 2 was good tho

@superizillian957 3 месяца назад

Kid named Duke Nukem forever:

@Tazmain. 4 месяца назад

I have never heard of sonic heroes concept art, this will be a treat!

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

Always enjoy researching and seeing how things would have been

@ALegendaryBlueHedge 4 месяца назад

Iizuka is a real one ngl, i have no idea why some people want him fired

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

Cause sonic fans

@kingalastor936 4 месяца назад

He wants sonic games to be linear as opposed to multiple paths.

@ALegendaryBlueHedge 4 месяца назад

@kingalastor936 Bruh 3D Sonic games have always been linear 💀. I'm very sure that's not nearly big enough of a reason to want someone fired from their job

@Sydney_Angelyt 4 месяца назад

@@kingalastor936says you?

@ashesGeek 4 месяца назад

@thelegendarybluehedgehog5465 people want him fired because he's heavily involved with all Sonic games and he manages to make fans butthurt saying stuff like there's two worlds, Classic Sonic is another dimension counterpart and there will never be Sonic Adventure 3. But yeah, in all honesty it's just Sonic fans being Sonic fans as usual

@nyx3983 3 месяца назад

he's humming to catch his flow and write lyrics in afterwards. fairly common practice in music during production & demoes.

@thermocrat8369 4 месяца назад

Well when Sega rushes all of their sonic games, you kind of need to work day and night.

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

Sega kinda sucks

@WhatIsMatter101 4 месяца назад

Or Iizuka should resign from Sega (instead of being the butt of "we had a troubled development" meme), build your own company and hire the Sonic fans who made promising fan games. Then market them as fast-paced spiritual successors that are actually good to fill the void felt by Sonic fans. Oh wait, too late, they already made their own games with OCs.

@SuperSonicWarrior93 4 месяца назад

Ya know what else I wish this game had? Flashbacks of how Metal Sonic concocted his plans.

@JonyPlayz1 4 месяца назад

Interesting video! It’s crazy how someone can almost die for a game. lizuka doesn’t get enough credit for his work nowadays honestly

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

True. He also basically saved frontiers

@JonyPlayz1 4 месяца назад

@@shaulov10 Indeed

@NoahNCopeland 4 месяца назад

7:19 he was thinking of this process you may have heard of called song writing

@fanteo8692 4 месяца назад

Woah. It's you!

@fanteo8692 4 месяца назад

Loved your game man and that OST was 🔥

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

I was informed that it’s something called scatting. Now I know

@lowkey_soulee 3 месяца назад

I love that concept art.My personal favorite was the unused stages because of what could of been.W video really good editing keep going bro peace and blessings.

@Terminal_Apotos 4 месяца назад

Goated Game, shows how Talented Sonic Team used to be making this game with only 19 people and less than 2 years.

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

W Glazing

@victoralanhernandez6894 4 месяца назад

Amazing video I did not know the concept art was this cool

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

Yeah it’s a shame that some concepts didn’t make it into the final game

@CedDrawsNear 3 месяца назад

hanged castle being an actual hanging castle is so fucking cool

@lightningboy7099 4 месяца назад

Congrats on 5k. Proud of you bro.

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

Thanks man!!

@SpeederLight 4 месяца назад

Sonic Heroes is PEAK! NO ONE CAN TELL ME OTHERWISE!

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

You do you bestie

@SpeederLight 4 месяца назад

@shaulov10 Thanks bestie 🤣 I do love this game and knowing this art truly makes me want a remaster of this game even more 😭

@TekRonan 4 месяца назад

You have a right to your opinion. Just like I have a right to mine. Which is Rush Adventure is peak lol Heroes was a great game. It gets too much hate when honestly? As someone who grew up with it, it wasn't nearly as bad as the actual bad games in the series(Labrinth, 06, Secret Rings, Forces).

@cooljrgaming9729 3 месяца назад

@TekRonan I dont even mind Sonic Labyrinth.

@jboyathegamer 4 месяца назад

Ok so i live seeing your videos but the ones where you say what the games could've been is just fantastic i love the concept videos despite the fact that i never played heroes yet it always looked cool

@destronlaserwave9566 4 месяца назад

Looking at the concept art, some of it depicts Sonic running alone through the levels. So it makes me wonder if the team mechanic was added later in development and the game started off as something more aligned with the Adventure gameplay.

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

I’m not sure cause Izuka mentioned he wanted teams to be a thing during the conceptualtion phase

@JOE_PHILIP 4 месяца назад

Congrats on 5K!!!!💯💯The quality of your videos has changed so much. Good Cooking!! 💪💪🗣️🗣️👏👏

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

Thank you man. Will continue to cook

@ominicronikal0902 4 месяца назад

Congrats on 5k! You deserve the world my friend! Now is just the start!

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

THANKYOUUUUU!!! WERE ONLY GOING UP FROM HERE

@ominicronikal0902 4 месяца назад

@@shaulov10 YESSIR!!!!!!!!!!

@Arcs358 4 месяца назад

Good luck on getting 10k subs

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

Thank you man!!!

@animeist72 4 месяца назад

The cut dialogue would have been a neat addition to add to this video. The script implies was going to be a Christmas theme level and some kind of sea creature boss fight.

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

Oh I didn’t even know there was different script

@animeist72 4 месяца назад

The full script was translated from Japanese and released recently like the PS2 prototype

@Natezilla_2 4 месяца назад

This series didn’t peak until Lost World with Windy Hill

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

I SAID YOU WAIT

@SussyMccranberry 4 месяца назад

what

@SussyMccranberry 4 месяца назад

No way jose

@Lit-C 4 месяца назад

Incredible video, man. But, might I suggest, if you haven't done it already, making a video about Sonic Forces' cut content. After taking a look at it myself, it looks like Sonci Forces could've been an incredible game based off concept art and cut content. But due to corporate medaling, it ended up the way we know the game now. Idk, seems like an interesting idea for this series

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

I actually have done a vid on forces cut content so you can go check it out

@Lit-C 4 месяца назад

@@shaulov10 A simply RU-vid search would've saved me the 3 minutes I spent making that comment 😭

@RyonMugen 3 месяца назад

Looking back at this game, it really reminds me of the time around the release date, all of those amazing games and all my gamcube games

@fanteo8692 4 месяца назад

The only thing cut were the children in Shaulov's basement in 2029 (Congrats on 5k Subs and also the video was great)

@possibly_ben 4 месяца назад

5:28 this looks like it was repurposed into skeleton dome from secret rings

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

Maybe not skeleton dome but pirate storm

@SolarisFox_svp 4 месяца назад

Because we're Sonic Zeroes 5:29 mf Skeleton Dome from Secret Rings before the Wii-

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

It’s more of a mix of skeleton dome and the pirate stage

@SolarisFox_svp 4 месяца назад

Pirate Storm respect@@shaulov10

@LiveForFuntasy 2 дня назад

5:35 Those "ancient advanced civilization" statues are not robots. Those are statues based explicitly on ancient Japanese clay figure artifacts. The small ones are called "haniwa", which were terracotta figures placed on funeral mounds in 300-500AD Japan. The big one is a "dogū", figures of which originate from roughly 4000-400BC of prehistoric Japan. You may also recognize it as "Arahabaki" from the SMT/Persona games.

@chinorobua9596 4 месяца назад

the fact that izuka nearly died while making this game is disturbing. like what was sega thinking

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

They don’t think. That’s the problem

@chinorobua9596 4 месяца назад

@@shaulov10 your right.they never do

@bowserbreaker2515 3 месяца назад

For a game that was so rushed, it came out really well.

@shaulov10 3 месяца назад

Fair

@bowserbreaker2515 3 месяца назад

@@shaulov10 It was presented well, I enjoyed the story despite being a downgrade from SA2, and the music was still great. Its only real big issue was the controls.

@doubleG2 4 месяца назад

Neat vid. Also are you gonna make another stream in the future

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

Probably gonna stream later today

@Deadchannel12817 4 месяца назад

Really want to play but Sega don’t want to remake it

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

Emulation is a beautiful thing

@TheMrRaffmanGuffy 4 месяца назад

The series returns

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

Probably gonna make an episode for every major milestone on the channel

@TheMrRaffmanGuffy 4 месяца назад

What do you think the next game and milestone will be?

@nnamditube6477 3 месяца назад

This is why this game deserves a remake to redeem itself and people should give this game a bit more respect although how they fill about this game

@Dark_KK 4 месяца назад

I love neo metal sonic

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

Him and metal overlord are both peak

@BrokeNostalgic 3 месяца назад

Sega should definitely remake heroes and include all the cut content and make the story how it was meant to be. Imagine the hype if they ever did that.

@chaoraiser2338 3 месяца назад

Bro honestly I would build a team of modders to add these things or a few of these things if I had the patience and even knew any that would be willing to help, I love the hell out this game I was honestly so sad when I was younger when I found out characters like mighty and ray were gonna be in that game...pretty sure that's how I even knew they were characters I think

@aluzion2616 4 месяца назад

My first video game ❤️

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

Damn. Mine was phines and ferb for the DS

@beanbean9364 3 месяца назад

Honestly knowing the background of this game makes me love it and appreciate it even more. Now, is it the best thing ever? Hell no. But the fact that this game was only built with 19 people just makes me want to pick it back up again. I hope a remaster or remake (more remake) happens some day. The history game absolutely deserves it

@mysterycupofjoe2670 4 месяца назад

One of my favirite Sonic games. Needs a re-release or remaster.

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

Nah it needs a full blown remake

@jessestevenson8361 4 месяца назад

What johnny was doing is called scatting its something singers do when they know what the melody will be already but haven’t completed the lyrics yet. Overall pretty common in the music industry

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

Oh ok i see. I though he was just humming or sum

@TekRonan 4 месяца назад

This, this exactly. Wish I saw this before I commented the same thing lol

@nnamditube6477 3 месяца назад

Some Sonic fans when they talk about 06 remake: it has potential even though it ruined the franchise Some sonic fans when they talk about heroes remake: it has no potential and the can't fix it even though when it helped the franchise grow and its iconic

@EstelleZer0 4 месяца назад

Another detail that could've made the cut was that characters such as Mighty, Ray, Fang, Bean, Bark, E102 Gamma & Chaos were going to appear.

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

Yeah I forgot Izuka mentioned he wanted to bring back a lot of characters from the classics but couldn’t due to time constraints

@robonaught 3 месяца назад

@@shaulov10 Also Metal Sonic was actually amongst the original team roster (he was with Mighty and Ray) which seems to point to he wasn't originally going to be the villain.

@OM4GAA 4 месяца назад

w shauvlov video

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

W comment

@matitheanimator 4 месяца назад

2:59 imagine dying because a f*cking videogame

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

This sonic shits serious, be ready to die behind it

@QUADRAXIS666 3 месяца назад

all i want is a modern re-release!!!!!!!!!!!

@Mullyboy2 4 месяца назад

shame they cut so much content besides the actual fucking game itself

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

TRUUUUUUUE

@ChargedTheHedgehog 4 месяца назад

Bro why does McDonald’s keep on ruining sonic games

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

It’s like a curse

@sams9440 3 месяца назад

the ancient stage is based on japanise archeological figurines.

@LSC494 4 месяца назад

Imagine what 06 would have looked like (I know p06 exists but I would like to have seen what sonic team would have done if they were given enough time)

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

That game could have been great

@LSC494 4 месяца назад

@@shaulov10 also congratulations on 5k subscribers

@Mungusdofu 3 месяца назад

In my opinion, Sonic Heroes environment is the perfect building design for Sonic's World, It's a blend of cartoony and colorful style like the classic games but with realistic stuff like the Modern Games. Frog Forest, Hang Castle and Bullet Train are really unique, Colors is colorful yes, but it feels bland and for Sonic Lost World, its also bland but worse. There is just something perfect environment in my eyes in Sonic Heroes.

@ItYaBoiGreen 4 месяца назад

surprised u didnt mention the original teams that were supposed to be in heros

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

Tbh those completely slipped my mind.

@ChibiSteak 3 месяца назад

12:59 fin.

@arc7375 3 месяца назад

“Foilage”? *Foliage.

@afhamdanish1957 4 месяца назад

Isn't 19 people though making sonic heroes if was a 19 people making this game is really impressive ngl even though the game has some issue but still impressive

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

According to all the sources I could find there was only 19 or so people. It’s really a miracle the game came out

@afhamdanish1957 4 месяца назад

@@shaulov10 that's cool

@VenomHEDGEHOG 4 месяца назад

Sonic teamdeserve to go to heaven, starting with god lizuka

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

That’s some insane glazing

@gregtom3272 4 месяца назад

also did you know that the game was supposed to be made for xbox and game cube, but sony said to sega, to release this game in play station 2 or they will not be allowed to release a game on a play station consol ever again

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

Oh ok that makes a lot of sense why the ps2 port is the worst

@XxJammerLammerxX 4 месяца назад

sonic lost world is still good otherwise love the vid

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

What does lost world have anything to do with this 😭😭

@XxJammerLammerxX 4 месяца назад

@@shaulov10 nothing, i just wanted to point it out

@Natezilla_2 4 месяца назад

I love you

@XxJammerLammerxX 4 месяца назад

@@Natezilla_2 thanks

@josephjoestarrequiem-bub1340 4 месяца назад

One more like forn300 likes 👍🏾😊

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

Monumentous W

@littlebigplaylbpgames9676 3 месяца назад

But Seaside Hill is a very good music for a stage. I prefered it better than some rock theme...

@RudyEcheverria-eo5yp 4 месяца назад

One of the first ones here

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

Man…

@jeromyperez5532 3 месяца назад

Yo, I'm gonna call you out just a little bit. At around 2:30 you say that technology makes it harder to develop games and this just isn't true. If technology made it *more difficult* to develop for games, nobody would advance technology. Fact of the matter is, making a game in UE5 is far more simple than making Mario Brothers back in the day even though the game was far more simple. You just have way more options now.

@shaulov10 3 месяца назад

While true. It still would take more resources, models and textures need to be higher quality. Games on average were becoming longer which means more content was needed. And this was during a time before UE5 where you had nanites and automatics LOD and optimization took longer, especially when graphics were getting more advanced. So technically games were getting more difficult to make. But they are getting easier and more streamlined

@jeromyperez5532 3 месяца назад

@@shaulov10 Look, I get what you're saying, I'm not trying to bust your chops. But I think there's confusion here. Maybe people demanded *more* from their games, but that means that the games conceptually were larger in scope- not technologically more difficult to make. If these exact same developers had access to UE5, Unity or GODOT today they would have absolutely no troubles cranking out the same game in half the time with fewer technical issues.

@ubercomrade 3 месяца назад

You say foliage like Marge Simpson

@JamesMorganVrictorsSon 4 месяца назад

Not called a demo but ok

@shaulov10 4 месяца назад

Demo beta whatever same diff

@musor-hc2tj 3 месяца назад

Hurray, another video about the topic no one have covered before Like lol, there's a video from a guy named Cifesk published Jan 27, 2024 which is two weeks ago. At least he compiled everything into one big video Another useless video