What To Do When You LOSE YOUR GOLF BALL! Rules Refresher

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In this video, Golf Monthly editor Neil Tappin is joined by qualified rules expert Fergus Bisset to run through what you need to do in the various scenarios where you might lose your golf ball. A lost golf ball can be a confusing situation if you don't know how to proceed, but thankfully we're here to help with all the advice you need so you don't incur any avoidable penalty shots!
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Out of bounds 0:21
Declaring a ball lost 1:47
3 minute search time 3:42
Lost in a penalty area 4:59
Ball moved by outside agency 7:30
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@johnmiller7682 11 дней назад

They need a set of rules for non competitive play. The reality is, if you drive a ball OB, and didn't hit a provisional, you're going to have a whole lot of people pissed off at you, if you head back to the tee box and hit another ball. And that's why there needs to be a set rule for this. I don't think you should be overly penalized. Nor should you be able to drop it in the fairway. But something in the middle. We need to help speed up the game, not slow it down.

@algernonwolfwhistle6351 11 дней назад

There is Rule E-5 which will cover your points. It is an official rule of golf but it does need to be adopted as a local rule by the course being played.

@MrImpossible86 10 дней назад

Use common sense. If you're keeping a handicap, you should know to hit a provisional. If you're just having a game with your friends, and don't hit a provisional, just take a lateral drop since it doesn't matter.

@johnmiller7682 10 дней назад

@@MrImpossible86 I realize that. And that's what most people do. I forgot about the new local rule, which does help. But I disagree about it mattering. But once you go down the path of "it doesn't matter", what else doesn't matter?

@tretre4435 10 дней назад

I take a 2 stroke penalty in such cases. It hurts but I don't need to re‐tee

@guyr7351 10 дней назад

@@tretre4435yes my thoughts if I’m looking at my handicap and playing OK I’ll drop a ball and say I’m playing 4, which replicates Stoke and distance hitting a second ball from the tee. Not I’ll drop another and I’m playing three

@grahamclayton675 10 дней назад

I would suggest that down your local muni , you don’t start walking back to the tee !!!! Just play stroke and distance from where it went OB ..

@SortaLikeGolf 10 дней назад

LOL no one plays golf like this video. In the woods, lost: drop play three. In the water, lost: drop play three. NO ONE goes back to the tee, and no one takes two pen strokes. It just doesn't happen in casual golf.

@guyr7351 10 дней назад

Casual golf, not the official rules. if your in a comp need to play the official way not just “drop one there mate”

@SortaLikeGolf 10 дней назад

@@guyr7351 Agreed, 100%!

@nathaniverson6828 10 дней назад

Actually everyone I play with plays legit for handicap reasons because most of us play competitively. But in a match we’re giving the “drop there’s fine”

@ohooper 2 дня назад

In the woods you should drop and play 4. Water you’re correct is drop and play 3.

@mickbanner 2 дня назад

Tournament golf vs casual golf is different. But if I'm playing on a Saturday afternoon and friend of a friend tells me to go back to the tee. He can do one. (Respectfully 😂) these guys need to understand the difference and HOPEFULLY viewers of this video do too

@mitchd949 10 дней назад

I'd wager most weekend golfers rule it like my foursome does. Look for your ball, if not found, drop in the area you're searching, then hit and proceed. No going back to the tee box which would burn too much time and delay many other groups. Count the drop as +1 and move on. We do this when you simply cannot find your ball because of long grass, millions of leaves, mud, whatever. This is not what we do on tee off if you hit ob, in a lake, etc, this is just how we proceed when after a brief search we simply don't find the ball. It's not like we're on tour where ball spotters watch the ball then come out and mark it with a little flag?!

@booberry6715 8 дней назад

Lose it "in play"? +1. +0 in the fall if it's lost in a leafy area (we call it the leaf rule). +0 if it's very wet out and you suspect it's plugged. +2 if it's OB. +1 if you think it went in a LH or WH.

@mitchd949 7 дней назад

@@booberry6715 yes, these are good common-sense rules for the amateur player on a crowded/packed course. I like that "leaf rule," might have to bring that up with my foursome.

@erniesteele3164 6 дней назад

@@booberry6715 We use the leaf rule in the fall here in Pennsylvania

@booberry6715 5 дней назад

@@erniesteele3164 I'm in Ohio, and it's been a thing for at least 40 years that I can remember.

@nbargolf 9 дней назад

OB I understand but IMHO the most unfair is the lost ball. The pros have 20 plus people plus spotters looking for their ball so rarely lose a ball. We have 4 people so totally unfair compared to Pros. So my group drops it where we agree it was and play it from there

@therealbeedubbs35 8 дней назад

Especially if it’s just in the rough where you know you’re standing on it and can’t see it

@PaulsWanderings 9 дней назад

I lose golf balls in the middle of a fairway.

@briansweeney7166 7 дней назад

Me too

@peterelliott2 11 дней назад

WHAT IS THE IMPACT FOR EACH OPTION ON YOUR SCORE? No good describing options without specifying what the penalty impact is on your score! COME ON GUYS!!!!

@wardy940 10 дней назад

1 penalty stroke. Always.

@karldann3107 9 дней назад

We play casual golf but competitive between the 4 of us in strokeplay. If we hit a ball out of bounds but don't know until we get to the area, then we drop a ball in the area it crossed and take a stroke and distance penalty so play 4 next. Keeps speed up.

@erniesteele3164 6 дней назад

My group also.

@kennyreid3256 8 дней назад

You didnt clarify that in the case where you played a provisional but your partner found your ball in the hedge....you still have the option of declaring it unplayable and going back to the tee, playing 3. You are not compelled to play it from the hedge or take a drop.

@Shaboiiii 7 дней назад

Thanks for highlighting the need for new rules!

@Trivi10 10 дней назад

It's pretty irresponsible not to even bring up Local Rule E-5 in this video when pace of play is already a huge problem at many courses.

@ra1der5 4 дня назад

The reason is because it is, as you say, a “local rule”. Meaning, not all courses adopt it. But do as you will and take that two stroke penalty.

@kenbrown2808 10 дней назад

Neil, sorry you've had such an unfortunate time off the tees this round, and hope your next round is better...

@imcriner3374 9 дней назад

Time golf sorted out 'walking back to the tee'. Rubbish rule as pissing off everybody even in competitive play .... as others suggest, just play from near 'lost' area + 2 stroke penalty!

@erniesteele3164 6 дней назад

Exactly!

@russelljohnstone6918 20 часов назад

Usually just NR

@tonygreen9033 10 дней назад

In the second example (ball in middle of large shrub) there was no mention of the 3 minute rule which probably leaves very little time for your match player opponent to find your ball and thus cause punch-up in the clubhouse!

@chachichochacorta8577 10 дней назад

Ball hawking is very common in Miami. Keep an eye on your golf ball when it goes onto another fairway. Had to whistle loudly and wave frantically at some fellows making a bee-line toward my ball just so that they know I was watching. Their golf balls weren't even near where mine had landed.

@itsdaley 3 дня назад

How it should be is how me and my friends play, perfect example i played today one of my tee shots went in the light right rough (we all saw a bounce) but then couldnt find it so i took a drop in the rough guessing where abouts it went and added 1 stroke annoying for me but the simple way of doing it

@paulmetcalf8500 8 дней назад

In a situation where you have driven off and your playing partners claim that they have seen where it went but on looking you can't find it, you play your provisional and walk a little bit further and find your first ball on the fairway. If it is outside 3 minutes then is your original ball not in play anymore or is it still in play?

@kc8923 10 дней назад

Odd they didn't explain the difference in the different options between red or yellow markers when the ball went into the water.

@GolfMonthly 9 дней назад

Skip to 7.07 on this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iAwxJD90Ico.html

@bfriendly100 20 часов назад

No lateral hazards? I thought they were a common red marking along the sides. Penalty was stroke but not distance. Do you still have to find it?

@sloebone7399 8 дней назад

Unless you’re playing in a tournament, drop a ball where you think you lost the ball, add a stroke and keep moving.

@danf2588 10 дней назад

Can you not declare your ball unplayable when it’s in the Gorsh Bush? According to the rules you can take back on the line relief or 2 club length lateral relief as well as stroke and distance.

@dionpilkington6111 10 дней назад

Only if you can find the ball and identify it as yours within the 3 minute time limit

@billybaxter6333 9 дней назад

I thought it had to be the original ball.

@douglastaylor43 11 дней назад

Picking up a ball from the middle fairway is crazy

@kenbrown2808 10 дней назад

I have had a person accidentally play my ball. if they are the same make and number, it's down to personal marking to tell which is which.

@douglastaylor43 10 дней назад

@@kenbrown2808 I draw on all my balls

@jefflucas6062 10 дней назад

Question: drive down the middle of the fairway but lands in a mushy area and goes underground. All players saw it plug but aren't able to find it. Lost?

@wadesworld6250 9 дней назад

If you're playing in a competition and following strict rules, yes, it's a lost ball.

@jefflucas6062 8 дней назад

@@wadesworld6250Yep, it was in competition and that's how we played it. Two different times too. Once on my ball dead center drive, and once a few years later on a competitor's sky ball. Unfortunate but unless you can find the hole and dig out the ball it's gone.

@danarcotta1283 8 дней назад

I play with casual players who take some Unreal liberties when in the sand, in the dirt etc and don't take penalty shots.🙄 I play in a league and We have to play by tournament rules because it counts. Anytime I think a tee shot in ob or possibly lost I always hit a provisional ball, announce the number on the ball so there's no confusion. I've seen guys rake a sand trap and place their ball in the fluffed up sand😳, or take relief to the middle of the fairway

@2010xkr 8 дней назад

I thought OB was ALWAYS stroke + distance (repeat from original spot plus 1 penatly) regardless of whether the ball is lost or not? Not so?

@mikemercer6307 8 дней назад

The rules are as complicated as ever😮is it still a 2shot penalty for a lost ball plus another shot for a provisional ball🤔thanks.

@julia-6195 7 дней назад

I'm surprised that these channels never mention Model Local Rule E-5. You can use it even if the course doesn't have it in effect for non-competitive rounds and still report the round - it says this in the rule.

@stevenjames9487 10 дней назад

So always hit a provisional.

@1966Birger 11 дней назад

What if the provisional also is lost? Shall we then walk back to the tee?

@guyr7351 10 дней назад

Yes, if in doubt drop a 2nd provisional

@Master...deBater 8 дней назад

Take two weeks off...then quit and sell your clubs!!!

@TheBachCelloSuites 9 дней назад

Stroke and distance and hitting and collecting provisionals, are devastating to the pace of play. And while we are at it, let’s finally get the manufacturers to make quality balls with radio chips or GPS. It’s past time for this.

@kevinelsken4275 11 дней назад

I enjoy your videos, but I think you missed an opportunity. The hedgerow as an OOB marker is a bit fuzzy. If a ball was landing at the base of the hedge, what is the call as to when it is fully OOB? The player and his partners would need to agree, but if they do not, then I assume the player could play 2 balls on that hole and appeal to the committee?

@Melted_Butter 10 дней назад

Didn’t they explain that. A part of the ball has to be on the course for it to be in bounds (ie a part of the ball sticking out the edge course side)

@guyr7351 10 дней назад

Is it the leaves of the hedge or the roots of the bush?

@interestedbystander196 10 дней назад

@@guyr7351 If it was the roots, the ball would be unplayable. Same difference.

@guyr7351 10 дней назад

@@interestedbystander196 my comment is more which is the out of bounds line, the edge of the bushes or the roots?

@interestedbystander196 10 дней назад

@guyr7351 Understood. I'd say it would have to be the leaves on the course side. Same principle as the painted line shown in the video. If any part of it is on the course (i.e. overhanging the turf on the course side), the ball is not OB. On the other hand, if it is the centre line of the hedge (i.e. where the roots/stems are) and you'trying to determine whether the ball is OB at that point, it becomes academic. In practical terms, the ball in the middle of the hedge will be unplayable, so it's a drop either way. Only question is if it's a lateral drop, or stroke and distance from the point of the last shot...

@billybaxter6333 9 дней назад

If an animal, for example a bird, moves the ball, is that an outside agency? I have seen this by the way.

@Lamster66 9 дней назад

3 Minutes? Ok riddle me this? You don't see the ball down (sun in your eyes or similar) now bearing in mind that as Amateurs we don't have luxury of someone running over to our ball with a lolipop with our names on. In the real World you have to keep your eye on it. So you've hit the ball pretty well but its slightly off target and you know it's most likely missed the fairway on the left. You're pretty certain you'll find it but you didn't see it land. So you walk up about the distance you think you've hit it when you playing partner say's "don't think it came this far!" and reminds you you only have 3 mins to find it. After 3 minute pass you haven't found it so you take a penalty drop. And as you walk towards the direction of the green you come across your original ball 25 yards further than you were looking and just off the fairway in the 1st cut.. This seems wholly unfair to me. There ought to be a rule where by the original ball is reinstated as the only reason you didn't find it was someone telling you you didn't hit it that far and rather wanting you to take a penalty (so they actually stand any chance of beating you?) After all Golf is all about playing the ball as it lies so If it lies in play and you've found it why can't you play it. I don't like losing balls, but I absolutely hate losing strokes.

@merocaine 3 дня назад

There is no way you're going back to the tee box with another group standing there watching your march 200 odd yards back up to the tee, to only then bang another ball into the long grass.

@notsofast3226 9 дней назад

Basically in answer to any question. Go back to the tee box and hit another ball.

@mister.wizard 10 дней назад

Where I play I’ve been told, if you lose your ball you take a 2 stroke penalty and drop next to the fairway where you thought it went lost. Is that an actual official golf rule? If it is, it’s stupid. It’s bad enough you lost your ball and golf is hard enough. There should never be more than a 1 stroke penalty for anything. Plus you just lost a ball you paid good money for! Thoughts and official ruling please?

@IdiotBloke 9 дней назад

Hi - check rule E-5. This covers what your club is suggesting. It is a local rule that has to be adopted by your club (sounds like if has been)

@kennyreid3256 8 дней назад

That's a local rule that some courses adopt. Aim is to speed up play so that you don't have to walk back to the tee and hit another. It's a 2 shot penalty since you are essentially keeping the distance of your original shot ( not being penalised stroke AND distance).

@stevehallam6867 10 дней назад

If you know you don’t want to play it, play a second ball without announcing it’s a provisional. That ball would then be in play?

@GolfMonthly 9 дней назад

Correct!

@mpc77769 9 дней назад

Joel... it figures. 🤣🤣🤣

@GolfMonthly 9 дней назад

How dare you! 🤣

@RorySweeneyUAE 10 дней назад

I just need to learn how to not lose it in the first place haha

@garylawrence7547 9 дней назад

Golf rule minusha!

@reedr7142 10 дней назад

I watched my ball land on another hole, and immediately made a bee line to it, seeing people coming off that hole’s tee. As I watch a guy look at my ball (in seeming confusion), I hollered over to him. He put the ball into his pocket. When I asked if he picked up said ball, he denied it. I begrudgingly dropped a new ball there-luckily this would not be a violation on my part.

@AdFin26 10 дней назад

If you saw him put the ball in his pocket I’d have flat out accused him of lying and asked for my ball back? Why didn’t you ?

@Lamster66 9 дней назад

Dunno about fisty-cuffs in the clubhouse? If you tried to impose some of these rules at some of the courses I've been to with some of the clientele that frequent them you're definitely not going to be waiting to get back to the club house.

@gregalbeke5079 10 дней назад

new local rule allows drop in fairway and two strokes when no provisional.

@kevins2961 10 дней назад

Not adopted on any of the courses round me. Always check the back of the card.

@wadesworld6250 10 дней назад

@@kevins2961 The courses around you could care less what rules you follow during casual play.

@kevins2961 9 дней назад

@@wadesworld6250 Do you mean they couldn't care less? I don't think they care at all. As I said do what you like when you play with your mates, mulligans giimmes free drops, but don't call it golf. and don't think about putting a card in

@wadesworld6250 9 дней назад

@@kevins2961 It's still golf. Not all golf is played as a tournament. In all reality, posting a score that's 2, 3 or 4 strokes lower because of "liberal" rules is going to make very little difference in someone's index. What tiny difference it does make is only going to hurt the golfer when it's time for a competition. In short, it's casual golf and not worth getting wrapped up about. The ruling bodies don't make us have markers with us and only turn in signed scorecards, so although the rules say you shouldn't turn the card in, they're apparently not that worried about it either.

@kevins2961 9 дней назад

@@wadesworld6250 Over 70% of the golf I play is in club comps. (Weekends ) I want to play against people who play by the rules and know the rules. People who don't play by the rules generally don't know them and get upset when told they are cheating, and that is what it is, Not just cheating against their opponent but against the entire field. This video is about the rules of golf, weird that most people posting don't think they apply to them If you want to make your own rules up why bother watching?

@steventonkin9689 8 дней назад

I think this video just says if looks iffy just play a provisional and crack on

@GentlemanJamesWin 10 дней назад

The third question about lost balls: I guess you can declare it lost if you are playing by yourself.

@kevins2961 10 дней назад

If you are hacking round a course on your own you can ignore any rule, give yourself mulligans, free putts do what you like but it isn't golf. If you are playing golf, all rules apply

@GentlemanJamesWin 10 дней назад

@@kevins2961 But in the vid he suggests you don't have to look for your ball, but you cant stop your playing partners from looking for it.

@wadesworld6250 10 дней назад

A ball cannot be declared lost. It can be deemed lost by the 3-minute time limit expiring, or it becomes deemed lost if you put another ball in play before the original is found within that 3 minutes. In casual play, drop one, charge yourself 2 strokes and move on.

@kevins2961 9 дней назад

@@GentlemanJamesWin That is true I have looked for and found a ball in matchplay that my opponent 'declared lost' and he had to play it because you can't declare it lost

@atfinthehouse8631 10 дней назад

And let’s not forget, it counts as an extra stroke or two.

@georgewilson197 9 дней назад

I am sure when the game of golf was invented these rules would not be as severe.

@kevins2961 10 дней назад

2.10 You cannot declare a golf ball to be lost I wish I had a £1 for every time I have said this to a playing partner or opponent. A nonsense believed by so many.

@morten3465 10 дней назад

Good on you Kev, being "that guy" and insisting on spending time in the thorns and nettles to find someone elses ball.

@kevins2961 9 дней назад

@@morten3465 I am not interested in finding my opponents ball in the thorns and nettles but that isn't 90% of the rough

@3for5spotshooter 8 дней назад

Its a ball not a child. Can we pleeeeze just drop a ball and move on.

@Robert-kh7fo 8 дней назад

The rule, when a ball is lost, should be changed. If you can’t find your ball, and you have not shot a provisional, you should receive two penalties strokes and proceed from the area where you thought your ball landed. This will entice players to shoot provisionals instead of relying on hope to find their initial ball.

@rogerpriest2368 8 дней назад

List ball in play should be treated exactly like hitting it the hazard. 2 strokes us ridiculous.

@alexolley4142 10 дней назад

The rules guy is literally why golf clubs don’t have juniors…. “The committee may DQ if you do this or that”. Golf is a sport and needs rules but you don’t need to be such an elitest about everything.

@guyr7351 10 дней назад

In casual golf things are more flexible. Playing with learners don’t make them play from rough game is hard enough so drop into semi rough or fairway. Ignore bunkers etc. playing a comp it’s play by the rules hence these explanations.

@wealdtkd3559 6 дней назад

And these are why weekend golfers have no idea and why golf is just not getting enough new players. Stupid rules

@georgewilson197 9 дней назад

So why do the professionals have different rules.

@ZeebNinja 7 дней назад

so much missing information... they talk as though I am a scratch golfer who plays tournaments. This was of no value to me.

@markhynes157 4 дня назад

Please continue these videos … especially focusing on the latest updated rules

@any1younger 10 дней назад

The person/persons who made up the rules of golf were clearly mentally ill. It’s supposed to be FUN if you’re not earning a living from it. I’ve been playing (from single figures) for x50yrs in weekly Comps and I still don’t know a lot of the rules……….

@wadesworld6250 10 дней назад

That's why people playing for fun don't follow the rules (yet incessantly complain about the rules they don't follow). If you're playing for fun, do what you want. There are no rules police who will come out on the course and arrest you. The rules are necessary for competitions, which is the only place they are generally followed to the letter (likely not true of your weekly comp).

@RJF18 8 дней назад

Can you please delete all your old rules videos which are now giving obsolete or incorrect advice.

@theawakengeneration8826 10 дней назад

This bloke is a terrible player 😂😂😂

@Master...deBater 8 дней назад

Hey I resemble...I mean resent that comment!!! I encountered every single one of those situations today on the golf course...and only played 9 holes!!!