What Would an Ideal Viva Piñata III Look Like? (The Game Changer) 

Hey, any fellow RTP fans, I've seen a few of you criticizing this video because it goes against RTP or something, or saying its "unoriginal" People are allowed to speculate what a new game in a series could look like? Plus RTP was far from the first look at a Viva Pinata 3. I'm geniuenly disanointed in anyone who comments about this video being bad because "its not Return to Paradise"

2:55 Actually there is a plot to the first game that explains why its in shambles. The story entries in the journal (which sadly most people skip) tells the entire backstory to the first game and Leafos' family. The garden is in shambles because its the dried up ruins of Jardinaro's garden. He used to be the most talented master gardener of the whole island, and his family were all talented themselves, with one of his sons, Stardos, being most likely to be his direct successor. He then hired a helper named Lester who was always up to no good, and Lester was always jealous of Stardos. Lester creates the sour candies, and is fired. He then later on tells Jardinaro about the Dragonache, which Jardinaro and his pride get frustrated that even with his mastery, he can't get this mythical Piñata, and is determined to find it. Lester then gives Jardinaro a sketchy map that'll supposedly lead him to the Dragonache, but the map is a trick specifically designed to lead their ship to certain death among risky turns and sharp corners along the seas. Jardinaro and his wife go on this death quest to find the location of the Dragonache, and leave Stardos in charge of the place. Their journey causes the parents to get separated, the mother and the ship lost at sea, and Jardinaro washed up at the residence of an old Diggerling who actually had a Dragonache egg, but didn't know what it was or how to hatch it (a kind of hint to the player on how to obtain the egg by using the mine). Meanwhile, Lester drops the helper act and fully reveals himself as Professor Pester. He then lures Stardos into the jungle, and poisons the kid with the sour candy and kills him, turning him into the ghost Dastardos. He then has his Ruffians and Sours (presumably other souls who were corrupted by his sour candies) break everything, steal all the Piñatas, and destroy the garden to complete rubble. The other kids seperate and run away from the chaos, and Jardinaro comes home to see the disaster. After his journey, he's left a bit injured, but also more concerningly, devastated by how awful things are now, and losses all motivation to start over again. He grows old and bitter, regretting that whole ship ride, feeling like a fool to have fell for Pester's tricks. He then gets too old to garden anymore, and gives up completely. All he has left is Leafos. Pester basically killed his wife and son, and his other two kids aren't living with him anymore. Extremely dark backstory. The entire first game is about you buying the deeds to Jardinaro's garden and taking his place. He's pessimistic at first, but then starts seeing potential in you, helps you expand your craft, and opens up to you more about his past, putting it in the journal. You then go on to exceed him as you yourself become a master gardener, triumphing over Pester and his army, and eventually obtain the Dragonache, something even Jardinaro never could. The second game's garden is the space that exists out of bounds in the first game. If you notice the areas in the second game connect to the first. In the desert, you can see the back of Dastardos' sour tree, which he comes out from the desert in TIP. The artic connects to the mountains. The village is just the other side of it, and the jungle is the path Pester travels to get to his volcano lair. The whole island is connected by the Piñata Central cannon. Its just another space of land on the Island Jardinaro gives another newcomer who has to step in to clean up Pester's mess. It isn't damaged because it wasn't Pester's priority to mess with it, it wasn't Jardinaro's.

I'd love it to have full ecosystems...

Viva Pinata 3 Return to Paradise is LITERALLY WHAT I THOUGHT OF IN 2020!!!! Why is that the name everyone in the fandom wants for a new Viva Pinata game?!?! (Note that I no longer see much of a point in another VP sequel, but I still enjoy seeing what others who love this franchise can come up with)

The best part about a sequel will honestly be that being made more more modern systems means garden space won't be much of an issue at all. They don't need to so severely limit how many objects there are.

The second game garden is a different garden from the first one. You can tell by the landmarks surrounding it, actually worked it out that there's a mountain inbetween the two. Think this one was more developed, I think, because it was the one right next to pinata central so obviously can't have that one looking bad 😂

maybe a mammoth pinata could just be a hammoth? i really love all your concepts, especially finding more dinosaur pinatas !

I had an Idea for a Viva Pinata 3 and 4 for years Viva Pinata 3: Candy corruption: Pester has come up with his Most devious plan Yet after 20 years of being MIA He has created super sour candy even more potent the regular sour candy and he uses it to corrupt certain Pinatas (Fudgehog Pretztail Horstachio Flapyak Jeli Elephinilla and a Dragonache) and its up to you to attract Pinata that are either the super sours predator or Rival the game introduces Boss fights that plays similar to Breakout. The new Freaky Pinata for this game is the Crisptyd (Crisp and Cryptid) Viva Pinata 4: Season of Sweets A new Myserious Island has Appeared and on this island new Pinata never before seen! Its called season of sweets because the entire Island are 4 massive bioms permanently stuck in a certain season and as such you get 4 brand new gardens plus you can go back to the original island and bring back the new ones

If I ever get enough money to make a viva pinata 3 I would

i would most certainly love a viva pinata 3 but since i dont see it happening, ive started working on a pet project inspired by it. Maybe at some point ill even manage to make it into a proper title.

I’m so sad that I’m literally the only person in my real life that has heard of viva piñata. I have an Xbox 360e and I use that to play my viva piñata or viva piñata tip

Viva Pinata is an awesome game and I would love to see a 3rd one. Your ideas are great. Personally, I would love to have an actual customizable player character that moves around instead of a simple cursor. Maybe even let you explore the village and Pinata Island open world style.

I started playing viva pinata since 2006 when i was just 6, and at that time I could only play the demo version that Xbox gave you with the arcade for the Xbox360, and It was already fun as It Is. This game belong to my childhood memories and followed me to my growth. Seeing people who still care about this game makes me warm my heart. I truely Hope that one day Viva Pinata 3 could see the light. Never stop dreaming !

It’s impossible to hate viva piñata. Literally impossible

Oh my gawd! Take my money!!! Also, anyone else always wanted the option to travel all over the island and explore? Maybe have more places to capture wild piñatas and bring them back to your garden/gardens? Cuz the biomes were cool.

Maybe the mammoth could be an eliphanilla evolution and have special variant in the Arctic similar to the juicygoose

Would love a third game

The aquatic animal was actually planned for TIP then scrapped. I’d also love captioning (for people who want to play with sound of or are deaf/HOH like me, since the sound cues are quite important to the gameplay) a flash effect off setting (for photosensitive people like myself) and for better piñata selection in this hypothetical 3rd game as even when my piñatas where at full happiness the Mothdrops and flutterscotches where so hard to get to romance, and so so slow

I love hearing the passion you have for Viva Pinata, I absolutely loved this game and it still holds up as the most wholesome game ive ever played.

i just came here for a sudden nostalgia attack and stumbled upon this video and i love the ideas here. I had the same idea of an underwater garden a few years ago while playing trouble in paradise and while i think an underwater garden with fish piñatas would be enough to make a sequel, i think the dino piñatas are a good idea, as long as there are like, only three or four at most. I think the underwater garden could be the way to give more importance to the plot of the story in which you learn what happened to Leafos's family. I always wanted a sequel where you could de-sour Dastardos and turn him back into his former self, maybe even find out what happened to their mother who got lost at sea.

The fact the last main game was 2008

This video honestly earned a sub, I love Viva Pinata and its always a game I've come back to. God willing Rare will get their heads outta their butts and make a 3rd game, Phil Spencer even said that Viva Pinata was ahead of its time, SO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT PHIL!!!

Not sure why I clicked on this but I definitely enjoyed the video! I love the idea of an underwater garden, that would be really cool. But yeah your piñata names could definitely use some work lol

at the end of the day i dont care what it looks like, i only care that it exists someday.

Spinosaurus pinata you can take fish from the underwater garden and put it in the normal garden as it ate fish and it would need alot of water like the hippo

Some of my very favorite videos on RU-vid I'm realizing our people who don't normally make these type of videos, randomly make one because they're passionate about it. Like I looked at your channel to see if you had anything else and you're mostly just doing a bunch of gameplay stuff. Yet here you have something with thousands of used that I'm sure you put a lot of time and effort in thinking into making

I do really like the idea of alot of Dinosaur Pinatas I really do; but I feel like 1. It shoulda start in a PVZ2 Jurassic Marsh esc area rather than the main garden if Professor Pester and the Pinatasaurs are to be there; as even in the original Viva Pinata; gretchem does say ("some actually hunted down a dr- no wait, that's a secret" ) implying that there are actually live dragons out there rather than some just some egg dug up in the mine, furthermore, who's the say this "Dragon" wasn't related in some way to the Pinatasaurs? #2 Naming any pinatas ( especially the dinosaurs for that matter ) after vegetables is a bad idea; Viva Pinata's pinata names are all about sweet foods; syrupent, doenut, taffly, sagorilla, bonboon, ellephanilla, dragonache; the list goes on for ages; and the closest we get to naming pinatas after vegetables if memory serves is naming them after sweet fruits (e.g Quackberry, Cherrapin ) you cross the vegetable line; and this might as well be Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2; I'd stick to naming the dinosaurs after really old candy and / or ancient fruits (e.g Pearasaur or Saporasaur, a Parasaur based off of Pears ( which were cultivated since prehistroic times ) and the extinct fruit Saportanthus from the Cretaceous period respectively)

More space, more Pinatas and free exploration with more biomes that’s what I’d want

I think something that could be cool is a bit more verticality if they could program it. could be fun to have little hills in the garden don't know if there'd be enough room but eh

I feel like a Pokémon-style version split with version exclusive Piñata species should be cool. We could have two themed versions: one with Dinosaur piñatas and the other with Youkai piñatas.

Theres a fangame being made called return to paradise. It recently started development.

I think a third VP game should just be more of the same but bigger. I think depth should be the biggest feature of gardening (like sand and ice were in VP:TIP) where you go underwater in your garden and you can raise the ground to make mountainous areas as well as caves. Mountains can have Llamas, goats, snow leopards, and tapirs while caves have bats, moles, and bears. With new consoles a bigger garden would be much easier. But it really should become extremely big. At least 8-10 times the final garden size of TIP. Instead of percentage of garden needed for requirements make them just a set amount. For example having 80 blocks of connected water for the Chippopotamus. Having a bigger play area can also make multiplayer a way better experience (especially with Stardew and Animal Crossing being huge. This would be a big selling point too). If you want to share a garden with 3 other players, everyone get's a quadrant and you can set permissions on your quadrant. I'd also personally like getting rid of Pester and the Ruffians and instead having every single pinata have a sour version. Giving a new gameplay avenue of having to tame sour pinatas so they stop showing up in your garden and getting awards for each species. You could also have a lore reason as to why the local pinatas are becoming sour. Sending them to parties was the main "story" of TIP as those were the main "missions". In this game it could be finding out why the pinatas are going sour and wanting to tame them all to help the people and pinatas. The sours wouldn't be needed to be tamed to get the pinata like the other games. But they'd show up alongside the regular version. That could even be a way to tame some. Like having a Sour Sarsgorilla fight a resident Sarsgorilla and win. I also think the interrupting of gameplay by visiting the shops could be changed now on modern consoles with it just being a menu that doesn't stop the clock (though that could be an option to turn on if you wish) and you can still see what's going on your garden while you shop. Especially because if the island/region is bigger, going to a town would be annoying. So it could be a online shop kind of experience where the people video chat you as you buy from them. The snow and desert biome are things they could expand on a lot. In VP:TIP they were just tiny flat gardens where a bunch of Pinatas would roam. In a sequel that could a much bigger biome area where you actually hunt down the Pinatas. For example maybe there's a jungle biome where Bonboons, Cinnamonkets, Parrybos all live and you can catch them there. It would be less passive than VP usually is and be more like Slime Rancher or Bugsnax where you learn where the Pinata dwells in the area and you have the tools to try to catch it yourself. The Pinatas having different ways of getting them. Some needing to be actively chased, some lured, some baited, etc. There could even be a fun thing where you hire Gretchum for a certain Pinata and you see her in that area and if you talk to her she'll have a funny line about getting your Pinata. With VP:TIP having 98 Pinatas, I'd want the third game to have 250-300 so having them all just around your garden would be odd. Having these biome areas I think would be really cool. The minigames could also be expanded. In VP:TIP you had races and beauty pageants. In the sequel I'd take what Party Animals was doing and actually having a full Kart Racer and collection of minigames to play with your pinatas. This could also be a fun thing to play with friends outside of the garden.

Nice video I wish they made a third one too

If I am being honest, I would want a viva piñata game in Vr, so you can have more in depth interactions with the piñata

Catching pinatas in a jungle area would be cool

i amlooking forward for this.

with todays technological capabilities i fell like a new viva pinata could be a very big island. like way bigger.

It would be so awesome...

This game is a gem one of my first games

Sweet Seas would be a great new biome

I have an Idea for a new area! The hot fudge volcano (no hot fudge sorry) but It would be the hardest place to get a pinata because There are ruffens you can bring your shovel because you can't scare the ruffens and one pinata the happy faced arockned Can be lured by a yam or snowdrop flower. I hope you find this comment and use It in return to paradise!

I really need a new Viva Pinata game

honestly the only i want out of a new Viva Piñata game is more space to work with, i felt like the garden from VP1 was too limiting, i want more space to play around and that's it

I'll take things that will never happened for 500

If it happend i would buy it

Dinosaur pinata sounds cool

I had know idea this was popular again I was talking to my girlfriend about playing this when I was a kid, started looking for a new one

I hope that one day the people at Microsoft realize that a properly made third game is a untapped gold mine

want to work on a viva pinata like game project?

Emulated the DS version, recently, to get my fix. It's not the same :(

Guys this is the 1# best game ever!

Good video but don't they only name pinatas after lollies/sweets/candy?

Flamango, Mango flamingo

I'm kinda tired of the really big square you're given. I wanna have a whole mini island or have the ability to grow as much as possible within the island.

Sweetie, please remember that Pocket Paradise was it's own sequel for the 3DS

Parasaurowafflus,,, Parasaurolophus + Waffle

cupcraken. cupcake and kraken