when that cop said "how does she pose a threat to the children" , I hope he remembers those words forever, especially since he didn't support the father's concern.
@@mimimomo4902 why put after in capitals? your statement makes what @pickleAllergy says even more valid? ??? ??????? seems like you didnt understand the comment (even tho its simple) and then wanted to correct someone? even tho your confused? just tired of shit like this
@foreverblessed3511 are you ok? The reason why I put "after" in capital is to highlight that the officer had the audacity to ask him about what threat she poses despite Charles telling him that she had lost her mind. You clearly didn't understand my comment. Next time, just ask politely
Either that cop is laughing or crying for the rest of his miserable life! These people are paid to ignore threats to human life yet you are forbidden to even defend yourself!
@@waaaah5305 it’s really come to this. Women’s stories are always valued and taken into consideration more than the man’s. It’s crazy how easily women can manipulate law enforcement to take their side even when they are the shit stirrer. Through my parents divorce I learned that pretty quick
As an ex police officer, her interview threw up red flag after red flag. Laughing and joking when your husband just got shot dead in your home. The use of “whatever” instead of actually explaining something, and no follow up by the questioner. 🚩🚩🚩
that's what happens a lot of the time when the wife goes crazy. everything is so tilted in the woman's favor, cops could stop her from trying to throw her kids I to a woodchipper, arrest her, and the next court date would be like "OK, we can move to 50/50 custody"
The funny thing is the DA only wanted to prosecute when the kids went missing not when the husband was killed! The justice system is neglecting innocent men!
That is not enough reason, sadly has Lori demonstrated, people lie. Police can't just go off what one person says without seeing the other person. Otherwise, we'd be back to Salim times. It didn't help that Charles stole her purse which didn't look good on him. Then somehow, she passed the mental eval (The fuck!?). Now I wanna know why they didn't investigate why he was shot on the ground, fucking crazy. And after the autopsy, why did nobody ask why it took them 45 minutes to call 911?
Poor guy he literally told EVERYONE that she'd threatened to murder him and they ignored him and she did it , just because she's a woman doesn't mean the threat is any less, those cops should be sued , the guy paid with his life for their apathy and indifference.
She saw her ex husband on the floor dead after getting shot and her first reaction was I gotta get JJ to school? like cmon this detective should’ve seen the lies from a mile away
Fuck yes! If you've gotten lured into a cult, you've lost your mind 100% of the time. This one she got caught up in sounds extra stupid, too. Baffling people will listen to some randos delusions and wholeheartedly believe in them too.
@@joshlewis575 In all honesty I studied mythology for six years, and although I'm into AI and robots nowadays, I can say with confidence that joining a cult is the stupidest thing ever, because once you go to Hell, I can guarantee it won't be worth it, that's why I'm a Christian.
Charles in that video totally breaks my heart. He knew what was going on. The authorities appeared to NOT TAKE CHARLES SERIOUSLY.... God bless Charles RIP🙏
No it's the hospitals. The cops took her after the commitment papers and she was in the station. The hospital let her go in 2 hrs. And custody is with the courts but dunno if he went there at all, even to petition for emergency custody. To everyone talking to her she seemed normal. We have hindsite. until she let her beliefs became known to those not in a close circle, she was a women going through a divorce with a man trying to make her look nuts. Esp since the daughter backed her. Words are words they don't have authority to do anything unless followed with actions. Which is unfortunate.
@saturninesmile9580 I'm guessing the fact she giggled all the way through the interview (after her husbands death) - I guess that went right over your head,,huh ?
@@saturninesmile9580the cops didn’t even want to entertain the possibility that she was in the wrong, watch the initial interrogation of her brother, herself, and the daughter, the story was so inconsistent and they just wrote it off as self defense
So sad for charles he did everthing right and was still killed, he seams like he was a great guy and them children would have thrived with him. Too bad his claim werent taken more serious, this is the worse possible outcome.
The problem about society will just label a woman as a victim automatically, and the man as an aggressor/suspect, You could tell that man was distraught during his first and second questioning with the police.
I hate this happened. It breaks my heart. No one is perfect, but he seemed genuinely concerned and, well, terrified. But no one took him seriously. Not one. Sure, some of the police were probably sympathetic, but had the roles been reversed you can imagine the lengths police would’ve gone to. Here there was none of that. At most it was an attitude of, “that sucks man, good luck.” Men are disposable these days. We’ve always been disposable, but it’s getting worse. This isn’t equality. This is shameful.
This case has always frustrated me. They always believe the “pretty blonde bubbly lady” if she’s charming enough and this cost 3 people’s lives. It’s disgusting. People need to start listening to sincere cries for help. The scariest part is this brother person was brainwashed as well. Chad Daybell was one hell of a predator on weak minded people.
She wanted famé and pomp he wanted à blonde but not the dead weight. They both were not brain washed just pure evil and selfish, using religion as a should for their corruption
Its so sad that he warned the police that she was going to kill him and that she was a threat to their kids too, and they didn't listen. He tried to get their help 3 times and all that was done was the mental health evaluation from lori.
I love how this one cop coming in is more interested in unlocking the door on the other side even though it doesn't need to be open because the other door is open on the other side and you can just walk through it it surely displays stupidity in lack of empathy. These are like some of the worst cops I've ever seen.
Those detectives were gullible. The woman kept laughing as she described how her husband was killed. He grabbed a bat from his stepdaughter to stop her from hitting him, and then he’s grabbed from behind from an uncle who is fighting him. Then uncle gets a gun from upstairs, comes downstairs and kills him and it’s selfdefense.
Yeah and the uncle even told a different story. He said he walked in and saw Charles with the bat and didn’t do anything and went to go get his gun... Yet the girls said he came in and put him in a chokehold
I dont know but I felt something off about all this. Like weird and illogical ,the women also belonged to a cult didnt she? It was like everything had some type of interference. I mean what if all the cops and the people in that town were actually cult members? The husband used to go for long business trips so he didnot got affected.
If the roles were reversed and the wife was expressing her concerns to the police about the husband, this whole situation would have gone differently. The wife is clearly a complete psychopath. How can you believe someone who uses the word "Whatever" to describe everything?
Facts... As many times as he had to call them to enforce court orders,she should have been arrested every time she didn't comply with the order... Then they extort the man about her purse and then they'll enforce the 5150,just ridiculous... He's the only one with court evidence to back up what he says,and her having zero calls to police about him supposedly being violent .. women who have violent husbands always call the cops at least once,even if they're dumb enough to stay...
@@mikewhite3123 Yup, weird how the cops tell him he can't take her purse yet she openly bragged about locking him out of his own home and taking all of his stuff, including his car. wtf.
Literally, everybody involved in this case could still be alive, but due to negligence stupid people who work for the police and the courts three people are already dead. The brother killed himself, because he knew that he was going to jail for life and Laurie and that guy are going to go to jail for life like it’s very obvious that the shooting wasn’t in self-defense as far as the brother goes. He literally ran into a room, then ran back out and then shot Charles, that’s not self-defense
And she was giggling throughout the interview. Remember the context, her husband had just been murdered in front of her by her brother, after which she just takes the kids to school. She's so nonchalant in telling the story and casually giggling throughout the interview thati's supper creepy and abnormal behavior for that situation. She has no signs of shock, or grief, or any emotion really. It's a true textbook example of a psychopath and instead of recognizing the behavior as strange the detective was charmed by her.
Those AZ Cops have Charles and the kids blood on their hands! If they had believed him or tried to help him, maybe those kids and Tammy and Charles would still be alive. Men need domestic protection too. In fact Charles family should sue the department. Absolutely.
I don’t think the cops are the problem. Lori and her convincing lies were the problem. My heart goes out to Charles, those beautiful kids and much later, to Tammy.
I'm a body language expert, and scenes in interrogations OMG how much lying is going on. 13:42 she has gotten physical with kids. It's traumatizing to see so much lying.
She was crazy that she was listening to demons. Her husband said she was constantly talking to an angel. There are fallen angels. If the spirit you’re talking to is telling you to murder, lie, or that Jesus isn’t God or self harm is how you get to God your the one listening to demons and it’s literally the anti-Christ spirit that’s got you, but the person doesn’t need to die to have a demon cast out of them. But people absolutely can be demonized. The fruit of lies and murder show she was demonized and lacked faith that Jesus (Mark 16) would be enough.
Yes I see your point but she was only young and probably believed all the lies her mother had filled her head with. She managed to convince the police and a psychiatrist she was absolutely fine, no mention of her thinking she was a goddess and all the other crazy stuff! She didn’t deserve to be killed by her own mother. The whole story is just crazy!
My goodness what terrible replies . Lori and Chad are responsible for the deaths of two innocent children, her husband, Chad's wife, and her brother Alex Cox turned up dead as well when they didn't need him anymore. Saying you don't feel sorry for a murdered girl? What a worthless comment. Nobody needs your nonexistent sympathy. You should feel sorry for your empty self.
I would love to hear interviews with the doctor(s) who evaluated Lori and released her in 2 hours. Just would love to know what their observations were. Sadly, when people are truly psychopathic, its not that hard to lie your way through evaluations.
Cops treated him like he was crazy I blame law enforcement for his death and the children they were given multiple chances to intervene and did NOTHING. Just because you’re Incapable of understanding doesn’t mean it’s not to be taken seriously. Gilbert Police department should be held accountable 👍.
My ex lost my son I was fighting for my freedom. For something I didn’t do. And she locked my son in car to sell her body for drugs. So bro I’m pray all I can really do
She was surely interviewed by a doctor, and if she didn't show signs of acute psychosis requiring immediate hospitalisation, then the only option would be to release her. Maybe they did find something but only wanted to follow up and treat, because she managed to hid the acute and extreme severity of it. Look at that first interview with the police when she has her daughter with her. She seems pretty normal there, doesn't she? If she was like that with the doctor, then that would be the answer why she wasn't forcibly hospitalised.
The thing is, we expect doctors to be able to understand someone who is a psychopath but the issue is, psychopaths are smart and manipulative. They can adjust in any situation and make it seem like they are the best and most innocent people.
Men are abused and everyone turns a blind eye. This is heart wrenching, I can’t even finish it. I hope the sweet ladies in prison show her how evil she is.
Literally if one person listen to the husband three people including two children would still be alive, almost like the court system treats husbands/fathers as second rate citizens
No! It is the half world that is crazy. I live in Scandinavia and it is the same here. The problem in modern society is that we give everybody a high education without measuring their IQ first, so we end up with people that have learned more than their IQ can deal with. Begining making cults, sekts, criminality, corruption, terrorism and all sort of shit, because they are wise but no IQ to fattom the consecvence of their actions. Have a positive and lucky future, I think we all will need it.
Fox News and Trump have plenty of followers, I agree with you! Our country is crazy. I was a Republican for 25 years until this man took office. I wonder if this woman is an illegitimate offspring of Trump. Delusional.
One thing I've discovered is that it's very hard, if not impossible, for psycopathic people to fake empathy. They can cry, but ONLY for themselves, never for others. When someone like this is in good spirits directly after the death of someone close to them, it's only because they are not caught yet. Once they are caught, the tears will come, but never before.
we tend to think of ppl who get into cults as victims but it seems like they also can be narcissists who believe they are better than everyone else, my heart and soul to the kids and their father
Such a sad series of events, the cops should definitely be held responsible for their negligence. Could’ve saved multiple lives if they would’ve done their job and taken this concerned father and husband seriously.
The Psychologist does a LOUSY job interrogating the wife, LORI, by using leading questions all the while saying "I dont want to put words into your mouth." Etc. She is coaching or prompting her testimony, leading her instead of letting the client speak for herself. BAD JOB in discovery leading to the subsequent husband's needless murder.
Sad. The only think I think this guy should have done is get a hidden camera that would record every time he had an interaction with her. Now it's a he-said, she-said situation which is bad.
If the cult of Mormons were not in control of the area they would have easily seen that woman as off her rockers and insane! But all her crazy talk seemed normal to the cult cops so nothing was done. RIP Charles Vallow and the two innocent children and Chads wife Tammy.
The shit she was talking was JW dogma, not Mormon. If anything, she was a heretic. The reason she was given carte blanche was because of her extra X-chromosome, not her magical beliefs.
Agreed...I am nowhere near the Mormon Church, but ppl in power get to control the outcome way too often. DemocRATs and their stranglehold on the DOJ comes to mind...they prosecute their political enemies, while their policy destroys the country, and anyone in that cult is immune from prosecution, or any scrutiny at all...
It's amusing to me that practicing ritual pretend cannibalism and praying to a life sized emaciated statue of a bleeding guy nailed to a medieval torture instrument seems normal, but talk of zombies is just a bridge too far.😂
how does she pose to threat to others?????? by killing multiple individuals she walked about acting normally after intentionally killing several people she thought that what she was doing made her better than a law abiding person or hero shes were she belongs how she never got the death penalty herself god knows...........
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This woman is scary as hell. She can put on a perfect suburban mom act and fool the cops all while being schizo level of crazy. She perfectly hid her beliefs, kept everything under wraps.
Honestly. Her interview with the police framed him so perfectly as an aggressive controlling husband. Even somehow twisted his literal job as just an ‘excuse’ to stay away from the kids?
I must disagree....I would say her family encouraged it more or less, she talk and behave like a teen while being a middle aged woman and everyone, especially her family approved if not even encouraged it (but likely the cops to a less degree). They encourage it perhaps not openly but subconsciously, they feel needed by the infantile middle aged woman in her various problems.
Men, this is why you have to pick your partner carefully. Marriage is just a government document making it harder to split. At least 75% of marraiges have failed one partner or the other.
How is this a good police officer? Husband says she was/is deranged, threatened his life & kids are gone. Officer calmly asks "how is that a threat to your kids"? (4:02) BECAUSE SHE IS DERANGED & THE KIDS ARE GONE OFFICER! I don't know how the man was calm & sadly thats why he ended up dead.
pathetic how the police do nothing. but if the tables were turned, and she would tell them about her husband, they would have arrested him right there.
I lost count of how many times I tried to get mental health to treat my brother, it took me three years to convince them he was seriously unwell, and it was only because he had what they called a psychotic break in front of them, they finally listened, he was finally diagnosed with schizophrenia and is now doing really well on medication
Husband of a psycho: "can't get in touch with my kids.. she said she was going to murder me, kill me with her powers..." Officer Dumbdumb over here: "sooooo.... how does she pose a threat to the kids?"
