You see it on crime channels all the time, people saying "don't talk to the cops", why would they say that? You want murderers and pedo's on the streets? I want them to be as ignorant as possible so they get locked up. The intelligent ones are hard enough to catch as it is, we don't want them to be even more well equipped on how to keep doing what they're doing.
I definitely could never be interrogated because whenever my parents would lecture me I’d start smiling for no reason and the detectives would think I was a psychopath
Tips from a retired officer for you folks (both innocent and guilty) who may find yourself in a police interrogation someday. 1) Never answer questions without legal counsel present even if you're innocent. Police interviewer techniques are constructed to throw the subject off guard and get them to make statements that contradict earlier answers. Even innocent people can get tripped up and make themselves appear guilty during this process. 2) NEVER believe anything an officer tells you during an interview. There is no law or code of conduct that says they're not allowed to lie about other witness statements, or evidence they may possess in an effort to elicit a confession. This especially holds true for physical evidence such as DNA, hairs or even video evidence. Hint it takes several months to a year for crime labs to get DNA results back and even then they need to obtain your DNA to compare the results to. The first guy fell for the old "Then why do we have your DNA on his bag" bluff... literally no way they could have even know there was viable DNA on that bag let alone whose it was in a weeks time since the murders. 3) Also as part of the second point, remember the interviewing officer is NOT on your side and is never your friend. It is their job to find a suspect, so even if they act friendly and sympathetic it is just a ploy to make you feel at ease and open up, after all the more you talk the higher the odds you'll say something to incriminate yourself. 4) Most importantly, don't ever think you're smarter than the officer doing the interview. Police interrogators are trained to smell bullshit. It's their primary job. Even your run of the mill patrol officer with a few years experience is much better at sensing deception than you are at lying. They've literally heard every lie in the book multiple times.
Lol I have ADHD so I could ramble if the topic is in my interest or I can over explain the smallest details. I think I’ll just stay away from crime in general
As to 4) I can point you to many studies in which it is demonstrated that police officers are actually LESS accurate at detecting deception than people without LE training, seemingly as a result of overconfidence and the "everyone is hiding something" mentality.
Bro for real it's like NONE of these idiots have ever watched a single interrogation video 😅 like, wtf makes you think this is an excellent idea? Even more so if you ARE GUILTY? Crazy, man. Never, ever, answer any questions, and I literally mean, never. Provide the necessary documentation if required but that's it.
That is why you exercise your right to remain silent. You don’t have to talk to the cops ever. You have a right to remain silent. They cannot compel you to talk at all. Anything you say CAN and WILL be used AGAINST you in a court of law. Nothing you say that will help you will be used by the prosecutor.
13 stabs wouldn't take long. Especially if you're fearing for your life and the person has a hold of you. You could easily deliver 13 stabs in under 5 seconds. Just because the person was stabbed once doesn't mean they will give up. I've seen a video where a guy attacked 2 women in a shop and even after one of the women emptied the entire magazine of her gun into him he still fought them and left the store.
The detective showed great skill in order to manipulate the suspect into confessing *shows a normal conversation between 2 simple and straightforward people* The guy wanted to defend himself and was just honest, this wasn't some combat of wits between "the criminal and the law"
@@jenns4926More than the probably 60 times he got hit while they were beating him? Im js if im getting jumped and fear for my life im not counting stabs. Im goin til they stop.
He defended himself with just a pocket knife and stabbed him 13 times but possibly his opponent was still vigorously fighting him until stab number 12?
@@Leo1903able Entirely possible. I had a big issue with that one, as well. I'm really hoping there's some justifying evidence that wasn't shown in the video, perhaps surveillance or something. The number of times is entirely inconsequential, as the correct number of times is exactly however many it takes for the threat to stop. IF 13 was too many, then why didn't the attacker stop after the first 12?
Honestly... id imagine with a pocket knife and adrenaline the guy probably didnt even feel the 1st few. And someone could probably stab an attacker a dozen times in a few second altercation
Mix adrenaline with likely copious amounts of alcohol and yes, you can continue to be a threat after multiple quick stab wounds. Fights are not like in the movies. This is why police officers often mag-dump suspects who are charging them, it is justified for an officer to assume they are a threat until they are incapacitated. That is the law regarding trained law enforcement, but evidently the average citizen is supposed to be more restrained, even when they have less to fight back with. "He didn't even try to punch or fight back before stabbing him." Fkn seriously???? Since when was the act of defending your life supposed to be proportional. I guess the officer who is being charged at with a knife should holster his gun and pull out his own knife, eh? 22 years is an absolute tragedy and a failure of our justice system. You could tell instantly that young guy was devastated to learn the other guy died. Screw the juror who said he didn't just act out of fear, you can't possibly know that. It's beyond a reasonable doubt, not, "Well I bet he hated him and took pleasure in stabbing him." without an inkling of solid evidence. In any case, yeah, if someone is beating me up, I'm gonna react out of fear and also a bit of hatred cause guess what- I hate that you're beating me up.... duh.
@@DD-wr8zp no i genuinely believe that, it literally makes no sense, they straight up arent safe, the vast majority of just regular dudes are stronger than 99% of women idk why ur just saying words
@@chicken4090that's HILARIOUS that you have the audacity to say female officers "aren't safe" when literally 90% of the body cam footage on RU-vid consist of MALE OFFICERS doing legit COMMITTING CRIMES 🤡 🥾 😛
@@DD-wr8zp They shouldn’t be street cops. It just ain’t safe, given that 9/10 suspects will be capable of easily overpowering almost any female officer. Female detectives or interrogators can be quite effective though.
Keep in mind, detectives/ interrogators can be pretty scary like this, being able to trap and ensnare most people. But remember, you don't hire a Saint to catch a sinner. That's why you might see interrogators as morally grey
So nodding yes when you say yes is overcompensation, and shaking no when you say yes means no confidence in the words your saying? 🤔..... Proving that you cannot win during a Police Interview (Interrogation). ASK FOR A LAWYER. ALWAYS.
Body language analysis is and always will be a pseudoscience. It’s like using lie detectors-the only information it can give detectives is that you’re nervous. Nervous can mean guilty conscience OR anxious about being framed. It’s not helpful except when used to lie to the ignorant. “The lie detector said you’re guilty, just admit it and you’ll get a lighter sentence for not resisting” “I can tell by your body language that you scrunch your nose every time you lie. Does that mean you’re lying right now? Confess”
@@demisagoat But it is though. It's the same as swinging your arms when you walk or yawning after someone else does. If your "yes" is sincere, you'll nod. If it's less sincere and is something like a "yeah" or a "sure", you won't nod.
Self defense doesn't always necessarily mean you're allowed to use deadly force. It's enough to defend yourself from the attacker. Obviously if someone attacks you with a deadly weapon it'd be different though. 22 years is wild though
Thats why a jury trial is so unjust. I dont get why you guys in the US let random people vote on your sentence. Ofc for them it sounds cruel to stab someone 13 times but only a judge has enough experience to know how that can happen
Cayde sounded like he shouldn't have gotten 22 years, idk the full case but I believe someone who was drunk and fighting someone could take 12 stab wounds without letting go
i'd like to see another story on this case, it certainly doesn't sound like he intended to kill him--which is the prime component of the charge he was found guilty of. He seems remorseful as well based on his response to the death.....
10 years until parole too, that’s insane when you consider drunk drivers who kill multiple people with no reason of self defense get 5 years or less very often.
The problem with these types of interrogators is that they're so good at what they do, they can convince innocent people to confess to crimes they didn't commit.
The interrogation should always begin with "Am I being detained or am I free to go?" If they say you're being detained, the only thing that should be followed up with is "I need an attorney and I plead the 5th". Then you actually exercise that right and say nothing else without legal counsel present. Also, unless you're going to separate your body from the dna/ fingerprint collection device (aka snack provided by the police) don't interact with it. Make them get a warrant. Also, make sure your phone only unlocks with a passcode because usually getting the code requires extra steps.
The problem with the first guy is they don't live in reality, they think life is a movie. His story is he was sitting in the car and two people pulled guns on him, one at his head and one at his chest, so he had to shoot them in self defense. Anyone with a brain could realise if you tried to pull your gun out and shoot them you would be dead within a second, which isn't enough time for you to even pull your gun out. It's this kind of fantasy land living that results in so many people dying at the police's hand, because for some reason they think they can take on 12 cops and shoot them all and get away, or they think they can sprint at an officer with a knife and be the victor.
Being innocent & still interrogated I’d end up smiling due to my nerves & investigators would think somethings wrong because I’d be shocked & nervous . Smartest thing you can do is remain silent till your lawyer gets there .
The second case is crazy. It sounds like clear cut self defense to me. Why is this guy sentenced 22 years? That’s insanity. If he had a good lawyer and didn’t talk to those cops he easily could have been let off with self defense
@@antattackBAM yeah but even then, assuming he is trying to stop the threat while adrenaline is rushing and he’s panicking, he could have just been ballistically repetitively making the stabbing motion. Like stab stab stab stab as fast as he can, 13 is not that many, and 13 stab wounds doesn’t mean he sat there meticulously stabbing the corpse 13 times. You could easily defend yourself against an aggressor legitimately and then have 13 wounds after the struggle
Cayde sounded like he shouldn't have gotten 22 years, idk the full case but I believe someone who was drunk and fighting someone could take 12 stab wounds without letting go
And yet theres police chiefs who spend years stealing evidence, falsifying reports, beating/killing innocent suspects and when thats all brought to light, they get 6 months paid suspension and a stern talking to.
Of course, its still unfortunate that he died from it, but we cant really ever know if it happened that way. Cayde was still drunk and probably wont remember all the real details. Im not saying he was in the wrong, but im not saying he wasnt either. Its hard being a detective, and this is one of the reasons why. Its rough.
@@stimihendrix3404 what does that matter? If someone is holding you where you can’t get away then you could probably only stab in the back or back of head, and probably wouldn’t have room to punch or kick
The second one was kind of bullshit. Dude was attacked and clearly and defending himself. How is that manslaughter? If someone is attacking you and you have tried to get away and done everything you possibly could, the persons right to not be stabbed as many times as it takes should be forfeit
it's called a democrat justice system, they forgive criminals 24/7 but when you take out their crimi- I mean democrat voter you are always in the wrong
Or you know, maybe don't stab someone 13! times IN THE BACK(I looked it up) in "self-defense"... and maybe try a bit harder to break out of a grapple. Who are we to know maybe the other guy was just defending himself from being stabbed (he was stabbed more than 13 times, he got stabbed in the arm too). Stabbing even once can be one time too many. Stabbing someone in turn because they punched you is considered grossly excessive by any reasonable person. The perp didn't look roughed up to me, so you have one guy who is unscathed and has temper issues and another who is in the morgue. Put two and two together, it doesn't make five or three. I'll K.I.S.S. it. If you want to claim self-defense, don't stab someone. Pretty simple and easy to follow, no? Fuck, someone bit me once, I put them down instantly with two punches then they let go and I got away. Someone pulled a knife on me once, I stayed the fuck away from them, they were a complete psycho, fits the stereotype if you ask me. How to not get stabbed 101. You never need to stab someone unless its life-threatening, otherwise you're just irresponsibly rolling the dice and commiting at least manslaughter when they inevitably die.
Many people in these comments have already said it but: NEVER talk to the police without a lawyer, even if you’re innocent. When you introduce a lawyer that’s representing you & only you into the situation, you level the playing field. Lawyers receive all information related to the case that the officers have & allow you and them to develop a story that actually makes sense. Don’t get tricked or worn down into admitting to things even if they seem frivolous.
I love watching these kinds of videos because I enjoy the psychology of it all, it's fascinating. I'm in sales and you'd be surprised I use similar tactics/talk tracks to these investigators when handling business reviews with clients and running negotiations lol they work
It's so weird... It's almost like repeat offenders should be in jail instead of roaming the streets. It's ALMOST like that would save A LOT of people from being murdered.
Woahh!!! Genuis and remarkable if i do say so myself. I've been saying allegator for half my life, nice to know its alligator. Thank you, Mike. ❤@mikesanders8621
What’s super annoying is gassing the investigators like these aren’t people who didn’t WANT to be murders. These almost all sound like people who are deeply remorseful but found themselves in a shitty situation. The guy who stabbed someone in fight is willingly confessing and they’re going on ab how good the investigator is. He’s actually really interruptive while buddy is actively giving the entire story.
man I thought they said the second guy killed him by stabbing him 3 times not 13 I was on his side thinking he'd be good until the end when I heard 13 times that's insane in a street fight.
Yeah, finally a sane person, I can't believe there's someone saying they should've stabbed him 13 times in the back and the head. It was more than 13 too. 13 was the number of times they got stabbed in the back.
i was interrogated by detectives over a severe felony at one point. i showed up naked with a bag of charcoal and kept screaming "CHICKEN RIBS OR STEAK ?" while naked holding a bag of charcoal. i won the interrogation and got a new group of cop friends who are drinkin a grillin partners now
Underated comment. As someone who's been arrested been to county and known tons of ppl arrested they RARELY ever interrogate. Most of the time your being locked up they know why and have a good enough reason or allready have someone's statement. It is very uncommon thing to happen. Mfs get arrested so often cops don't got time to interrogate every single person.
Not true at all. I got arrested once for fitting the description for a robbery apparently when all I did was go to the servo and buy a doughnut and a flavoured milk which the cops took off me and never gave me back, They made me wait at the station for hours until it was like 2-3am and then finally took me into the interrogation room to try to get me to talk when I was tired and never gave me food or water (will admit I didn't ask but I didn't really have anyone around to ask for it from) Then they kept trying to say I did it and why did I do it etc when I had 0 idea wtf they were even on about. After 30mins of questioning they took me back to the holding cell, then another hour went by and they made me walk all the way home and never heard about it again since. Still never got my doughnut or strawberry milk. was pretty bullshit.
At the beginning of Lee's interrogation, seeing the lady interrogator getting emotional I thought was very unprofessional. It all made sense by the end. Brilliant. He was in checkmate either way at that point, but he might have lawyered up if the emotion card wasn't played.
Still blows my mind. An officer can mag dump into a kid 20 feet away with a stick if he steps forward. But us civilians have to be with in an inch of death before we can even fire once. And we still face murder charges. Talk about broken.
They can lie about anything they want, but it's risky if the criminal already knows the details of the crime. First lie the cops tell and they will call BS and ask for a lawyer. Because they know for sure the cop is lying. Check.
My problem with some of these confessions is when they are tricked into not asking for a lawyer. If they don't ask that's their own stupidity however most of the time they will bring them in at 10 or 11 at night months after the crime because they know they most likely wont ask for a lawyer and if they do they will lock them up for a day or so knowing that they will most likely change their mind and talk. Most people think they bring them in at that time because if they get tiered they may confess quicker plus when tired your most likely to change your story and it's harder to keep track of your lies. That is true however depriving somebody of sleep for interrogation purposes is mental torture. They also don't care about your age or IQ level. this shit may sound fine to some people but it puts lots of innocent people away and when it does it just puts detectives into CYA mode. It could happen to you. Very little is being done to stop it. If your innocent get a lawyer because you most likely are not going home. Stop talking.
Meh, I don't think you should get 38 years for shooting 2 guys who tried to rob you, I think just because you were buying drugs you shouldn't lose self defense.
@@Healthycow ah yes, they will 100% not shoot you when you try to leave, that's just normal, Idk why people even give they stuff up when a guy puts a gun in they face, like why would they shoot them
@@mrkrazy_kngOkay. So what you’re positing is, “If I refuse to hand over my stuff they’ll shoot me, but if I hand it over I’ll get shot anyway. I would rather risk death by keeping my stuff then risk death without my stuff.” It’s just very… naïve? Most muggers would prefer not to murder the people they mug, because if they get caught a murder charge is a lot worse than mugging. Murder means a lot more effort too-you have to clean up the crime scene if there was a struggle, it might be in a conspicuous location that works great for a quick robbery but not so much to leave a corpse in… There’s very little motivation for someone who wants your belongings to shoot you. Even seeing a glimpse of their face is hardly a big deal unless you were actively focusing on it for more than a half-second. You talk a lot like a kid who thinks “criminal” is a race of human being and everyone who commits a crime is automatically a homicidal maniac who shoots for fun. I’m not trying to be in defense of muggers here, I’m moreso trying to tell you that your pure-hearted attitude is dangerous. You need to be more cynical and skeptical towards those cops n’ robbers games you played when you were small. People who get killed by muggers, robbers, and home invaders are innocently idealistic people like you who assumed you needed to defend your property to the death. It’s very rare that someone murders another human just to get ‘stuff.’ It’s very common to murder someone actively trying to kill you. Home invaders tell you to stay put, they grab what they want, then leave. Home invaders who tell you to stay put and get a gun pulled on them will probably kill you. It’s just adding a lot of needless risk to a situation that can usually be handled after the fact by insurance or law enforcement.
@@mrkrazy_kngTL;DR people who otherwise had no intention of killing you will definitely gain motivation to kill you when you try to defend material objects to the death.
the first guy at the first said ''I saw that shit on twitter'' but later changed it to ''my dad called me and said did you hear about the murders?'' slipups is so important
Some scenarios in the US evoke “felony murder” where if you are part of a group committing a crime, and someone gets killed, then everyone in the crime can be charged with the death. A good reason to never let someone talk you into “just” being the look-out or driver, or some minor role, in a crime…if things go wrong, saying you were just the get-away driver or whatever can still have huge consequences.
Definitely have started recognizing when the detectives start using the "Reid technique". Ive noticed in different interrogations the same lines being used. Its interesting
The "dealers" were the "robbers" in his made-up story- that's why there were only two bodies. He was pretending the people he robbed were actually trying to rob him. 👍
My father was a cop for 35 years and he would always tell me and my brother, don’t talk to the police, they are not your friends, get a lawyer no matter what
For Lee's case, with the body language stuff... I wouldn't write off Lee bouncing his leg up and down and moving his hand weirdly as a sign that he's lying because... I do those things too, but I've also got ADHD and I do that stuff when I'm either impatient or anxious about something because it helps me to focus. Everything else about it, sure, but I wouldn't use the body language stuff to tell if someone's lying or not because... they could just be neurodivergent to some extent (ADHD/autism/etc) and that's just something we do, even if we're not lying (which... to be fair... most neurodivergent people are shitty liars anyways).
The first guy def was locked in the car cuz they wanted to rob him. Not a good situation to be in, don’t know what else he could have done? Besides not buying drugs in the first place
