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i would like to know the true histry of palestine and jerusalem as far as a iknow the original isrealites were the same people as the egyptians and we can see them in egyupt on the wall not todays egyptians obviously goto Garbb Aswan (ibbit al hawa) and you will meet the real egyptians (they are dravidains) ... .very simular to aborigionals ? very strange but the original langueg is like a form of swahli as well !
Please enlighten every one about 1. Why Vedik Indians do not have R1b. The late entrants from Steppe also call themselves as Aryans but have 15% R1b 2. Why Vedik Indians are lactose intolerant completely 3. Why Saraswati is described in details when saraswati has stopped flowing 4000 BCE 4. Which is parent population of Vedik Aryans among various cultures.
Thank you so much David ! Everything you said in this video is just, you don't take any side, you stick to evidence, you're not afraid to express ideas if they are valid. Thank you for your courage, and this scientific video on History, specially the touchy questions. Thank you for saying what you said on the other video that some people felt offended about. I appreciate that you precised it. Indeed it seems today some people want to protect (possible) racism, by using bad faith and the victim card. Your videos are refreshing and reassuring, specially after having heard people like Graham Hancock, spreading lies on Ancient History. We need professors like you. Thank you for being on RU-vid and the courses you propose. It makes me want to become a patron for your channel and your work, and subscribe to your courses. Take care, Gaby
Japan: Maiji restautation and all the western imports including the prussian style army show that an aim of japan was to become part of the West China: are you going to say that marxism isn't western/european because China was ruled by communism since the 40'? Korea: pretty sure that they had their own attempt at their own "Maji restoration" before being conquered, also foreign occupation that brings in foreign ideas haz the twndency to bring in foreign ideas post war,what a surprise
Also yeah,nationalism is jjst a higher level tribalism. The same way speciism/human supremacy will be a higher level nationalism when/if we meet "celestial abominations" (i.e. aliens)
To be fair, Japan's idea of "nationalism" came from the West. Natsume Soseki is directly inspired by the writings of Rudyard Kipling when he penned his idea of a singular pure "Yamato race" that has, is ,and will rule all over the islands and beyond...
It amazes me to still hear politician's using language that could have been lifted right out of Thucydides to describe current events, and to justify policy decisions.
Plenty... It's all the stuff that's boring to people who aren't interested in history unless there's some political, social, religious, treasure, or other aspect that's relevant to that person. So much history is "boring" in that sense.
@@GizzyDillespee sure, but it’s still all just used for some political agenda or another, even the “boring stuff” because it’s often the “boring stuff” that people latch on to and use to prove whatever point they are trying to make. Like people that want to talk about the daily lives of people in the 50’s compared to today and try to make an argument about how much better things were back then. They aren’t using things like the Korean War.
A fair point: it's always been invoked in political debate, and formal "history" (too much of it concerning politics & government anyway) was notoriously for long the account left by the winners. I think the issue today is that we have the methods to advance beyond such partial & partisan interpretation, but an industry has arisen aimed at turning the clock back and promoting division and supremacist doctrines in place of improved common understanding of our shared past. it's hyper-politicisation that seeks not just to use the record for its own ends, but to suppress findings & perspectives that are inconvenient to it.
@@scottnunnemaker5209 It's more than tribalism, though. As you indicated, we've always had competing ideological or sectional perspectives - but we learned to take account of that in our reading and conclusions: "OK, this person's coming at it from the left/right, let's note that and see if they've an objectively valid contribution to bring to the table beyond mere partisanship." Today's onslaught on scholarship is something different, for altogether more destructive ends, the objective being not just to promote a subjective viewpoint (which we all inevitably do anyway because we all have them) but to undermine learning & knowledge itself. Dark times.
Bravo Professor Miano! As a fellow teacher, I never allowed my personal beliefs to affect my teaching. However, while I invited questions and suggested alternatives I always required factual evidence from respectable sources using the scientific method. In a class about ancient structures, I played video of divers surveying the Yonaguni structure and invited the students to discuss the pros and cons of it being man-made or natural. In the end when all of them demanded that I give them "the Answer" I said, "I don't know for sure. There is evidence for both sides, the evidence is equally compelling/uncompelling, so I have to keep an open mind until overwhelming scientific evidence can be offered." Thanks for another extremely interesting video. I look forward to all of your very educational videos.
Great video as always, Dr. M.! Thank you for being you; you are a fantastic teacher to all of us. Please consider making a video on the real history of Israel/Palestine. With all the misinformation on social media and the internet, this is the perfect time to educate ourselves. I’m sure many viewers would agree that we can all benefit from an objective perspective on this topic. Thanks again :)
I think this way about extinctions. We know that whenever humans first arrived at new regions, megafauna went extinct (mammoths, ground sloths, moa, elephant birds, etc). We can blame each of the cultures, but it was really collective ignorance. We might look back now and think "well of course, overhunting is bad" but they didn't know what we know about conservation. They may have just believed that x animal spawns in x biome. I see them as our ancestors figuring things out. For good or ill. They built the first steps to what would lead to the natural sciences we have now.
I have Irish, Scottish and British ancesty . . . .im VERY confused as to how i view the British Empire but a VERY clear view of the Dutch: they know what they did!!!😂
Those ancient history threories are fascinating and kinda fun. But ultimately it keeps coming down to how ancients moved and shaped big stones. Which is a legit mystery. But what I want to know is- if they are so advanced why didn’t they just pour concrete?
Great vid. Social media has made pseudo history a booming market. The amount of people slinging mud on Facebook is ridiculous and it really amplifies hatred between neighboring peoples. I see it all over the place now. Greeks vs north macedonians/turks/albanians, Pakistanis vs indians, Cambodians vs thai, hungarians vs romanians, slovakians, slovenians. It's wild.
The example at 46.54 happened to me in reverse. My mother told me to offer some little girls playing nearby some of my sweets. She knows I'm gentle and harmless but she has a blindspot, other people just see a big hairy man offering sweets to little girls. I got her to share them instead.
It's okay not to both-sides every debate, Doc. There are views and methods that cause harm when we treat them merely as 2 sides of a coin. Race-realists and Holocaust deniers are both ideologically motivated, as you noted. Putting their ideologies on the same footing as academics calling out pseudohistory/alt-history as racist is doing a disservice here. You discuss language later on, but fall a bit short when framing it as what people are "allowed" to say. People can say what they want, they're simply not free from the social (and sometimes legal) consequences of it. Society being dynamic means there's going to be an evolving consensus on what's *appropriate*, especially in light of what causes harm. Hopefully the goal is to cause less harm! Academics should call out the stuff people like Foerster espouse because it's causing harm --particularly to Indigenous folks-- in addition to it poisoning the process of documenting history & archaeology. It's not as equal a tactic as "the other side." Well done video, as always.
Your opening section about using ancient history of the "Aryans" to justify racial or nationalistic ideologies, and the concepts that it's more accurate to study linguistic groupings rather than racial ones, brought to mind JRR Tolkien's response to German publishers (who wanted to publish *THe Hobbit*) when asked whether or not he had any Aryan heritage: "Thank you for your letter. I regret that I am not clear as to what you intend by *arisch*. I am not of Aryan extraction: that is Indo-Iranian; as far as I am aware none of my ancestors spoke Hindustani, Persian, Gypsy, or any related dialects. But if I am to understand that you are enquiring whether I am of Jewish origin, I can only reply that I regret that I appear to have no ancestors of that gifted people."
You know comrade Stalin once stood in the rain while he had his driver used car to taxi peasants back to their homes. When was the last time an American president did that?
If you believe that = 🤣🤦 Stalin was a murderous paranoiac with a criminal background who did not care about anyone save himself. How many millions did he push into the ground under his barbaric rule......... p.s. - since you referenced him this is apropos. There is today in some of the former Soviet States = a campaign to "rehabilitate" Stalin...... They are trying to whitewash his murderous reign to recast him as something he = was not......... Things that make you go Hmmm???
Thank you so much for making this video. I am working on writing a history book from a particular perspective (left wing and independence movement) but I really want to avoid falling into the traps of biased history. This video was an excellent introduction on some of the ways I can avoid some pitfalls I might have inadvertantly stepped into.
About what you said at the beginning. It is true that many newer nations such as the USA with the people only settling there some hundreds of years ago would not be concerned with ancient history in their politics. However older nations with culture that is thousands of years old routinely use ancient history for their political ends. For example a person in India might use history as an example of how prople from his religion are superior to those in another religion. And this is stuff the majority of political people get involved with.
I believe, wokeness, and bigotry are as old as time. So, we should include the thought of it, but not as a main aspect of history. Interpretation is important, but only on the individual level, IMO. Great videos.
On Star Trek once, the question came up as to why Worf was so dark-skinned next to another Klingon nearby. "I'm from the South." When he got a funny look, he glowered, saying, "Every planet has a South!"
I love how much they lampshaded the Klingon character evolution in Trials and Tribbulations. (The real answer being “they had half a shoe string budget and that TOS was 50 years ago”) and in DS9 Worf just says “we do not speak of it.” And everyone else just nods in awkward confusion
Employing knowledge provided by history, "woke" appeared first around 100 years ago in black music about racist wolves in sheep's clothing in their midst: Beware. Be woke. And look today where "woke" became unacceptable: In the banning of books on black history in schools. It should send a shudder down intelligent spines to beat it back, as I believe awareness will.
The internets have taught me that ancient aliens fought dinosaurs and then became the first MMA fighters and also built a lot of ancient ruins with cool tools and stuff.
I raise you the fact that I have ancestry from Ireland, Wales, Scotland, England, France, the Netherlands, Germany, Norway, Poland, Israel, Lenapehoking, Virginia, North Carolina & Nigeria. Top that off with the ancestors from Virginia & North Carolina once likely held a lot of land on the coast of Lake Erie & in northern Alabama at different points in history before this & the Lenape later held land in West Virginia & Ohio, I feel rather entitled to have my people's rather extensive empire back, sir.
"As one of 16 Million descendants of Genghis Khan, I rightfully claim all of Asia and Europa. You may serve as my loyal vassal in the West." - Me, who is most definitely an actual descendant of Genghis Khan, according to this dynastic record that my Chancellor -forged- researched and discovered.
I’ve been researching Linear A, and the amount of nationalist quackery that gets unleashed on it is unreal. One of the most persuasive videos on RU-vid is from an actual professor who claims that Linear A is ancient Hungarian. It all sounds well thought out and completely plausible, if you’re not familiar with the field. As a result, he’s gotten a following. The truth is that although the professor isn’t at a Hungarian university, his argument is pure Hungarian nationalist nonsense.
Is this the Hungarian-American computational linguist at Madison, Wisconsin? He says Linear A is a Finno-Ugric language, and that Greek (as in Linear B) has a Finno-Ugric substrate. Sumerian was a hybrid Dravidian and Finno-Ugric language. I don't see what's so nationalist about what he says, other than the ability to spot Hungarian words. One of his students was working on the IVC seals. I was waiting for the IVC to be Finno-Ugric too.
@@faithlesshound5621 Claiming that Greek has a Finno-Ugric substrate is equally silly, especially when you look at some of his “evidence.” He has a table of “cognate words” where the words share, at most, two sounds. Several of the words aren’t even the same-star/moon, wall/brick, tie/tunic, nose/mountain. That’s not a table of cognates, it’s a fishing expedition.
Social media is a bit like the local pub . Those who shout the loudest and act as if they know what they'r talking about get a lot of attention. Most don't bother contradicting the loudmouths . The few who take the time to debunk their nonsense , get drawn into an exhausting exchange .
Agreed, this is a great analogy. I would not, and I don't know anybody who would talk to someone who is shouting in a bar. If they are shouting anything starting with "my ancestry..." I would promptly leave the bar.
Thanks for making this video. We have a Greek friend who always says "Everything is Greek!" like the dad from My Big Fat Greek Wedding. We all joke with him and say every random thing is "Greek" : Aztec pyramids, Maple syrup, Playstation console, etc. It's all in good fun.
There was a british comedy show back in the 1990s called *Goodness Gracious Me* One of the recurring characters was Mr "Everything Comes From India" - you can probably guess the rest from there haha You can find some of the bits on youtube. - Leonardo Da Vinci Was Indian - Jesus was Indian
@@claudiaxander which is hilarious as the Classical Greeks seem to have expressed the view that the Macedonians where not quite proper Greeks, but not full on barbarians until after the conquest of Greece by them
You couldn't have even possibly finished this video BY FAR when you posted this. Even as I post this - if I started watching it the second it dropped id still have 20 min to go.
Although I cringe with fellow Greeks who make ridiculous claims about ancient Greeks and how much the ancient Greek civilization contributed to modern world, the study you mentioned about the ancestry of bronze age and modern Greeks is significant in my opinion because it counters Falmerayer's theory that modern Greeks have no connection whatsoever to ancient Greeks which oppinion is ridiculous and likewise politically motivated
Yeah see his part on Jewish and Palestinian claims to show how it gets ridiculous with each blaming another of being effectively illegal migrants and denying ancient heritage. It's absolutely a thing in Anatolia and surroundings as well with Turks vs Armenians vs Greeks vs Kurds vs Syrians etc.
Yet one must discern between what is individual bias versus a supposed collective bias. Here is what I mean: 1 - religious believers all ascribe to what is often a dogmatic adherence to their religious doctrine. To that end they often per _"confirmation bias"_ interpret events based upon that preexisting belief structure = hence collective bias. 2 - in the case of say LAHT one sees individuals generating what are typically flawed historical/archeological claims which represent "their opinion". Because their claims reflect ones which originate to a sole individual typically dependent upon a desire to accept as true what they have chosen to believe = individual bias. Moral: in science and science-derived subjects we have however = _"peer-review."_ While peer-review is contingent upon consensus - it is not collective bias. You have rather otherwise unaffiliated individuals knowledgeable in the subject-matter who upon review all conclude the evidence supports the claimed outcome. It is the basis of the adage all are familiar with: _"2 heads are better than 1"_ Above helps to mitigate your "all have bias" effect. Whether or not bias plays a role in some assertion = peer-review helps to identify that bias if present and ascertain the plausibility or not of said assertion. That is about as good as it gets I'm afraid.
It seems like the alt history and ancient alien crowd don't understand the culture they are talking about. A good example is the tomb of King Pacal of Palenque. They say it shows an 'astronaut' flying a craft and ignore how all the elements figure into Mayan belief and art.
More critically they don't see that they themselves are part of a culture in that there's an origin to the points they discuss rather than a truth which exists in a vacuum. They're so high on the belief of discovering their own genius that they'd rather believe to be misunderstood than to acknowledge facts (as observable evidence).
From their perspective, all that information about Mayan belief and art comes from academic experts who are all a bunch of liars, and only they, the conspiracy theorist, is telling the truth. No need to read thousands of books and articles once you've decided they're full of lies, feel free to turn off your brain and enjoy the smugness of believing you are always right.
Mostly because, as the video details, alt history is about supporting one's own political agenda, not uncovering the truth. It's confirmation bias in action.
As someone born in Aryavart, right on the banks of Saraswati*, right beside IVC ruins, and a seeker of truth I would like to apologise on behalf of my fellow countrymen and their manners, biases and ignorance. I would also like to thank you for your educational content that has helped me change the mind of a few people I know, an accomplishment I hope you are proud of. *sarcasm *modern day Puadh region of Punjab & Haryana in India, Saraswati is supposedly the river Ghagar Hakra although we always just called it '[locality name]'s stream' ([locality name] ka nala).
Though whatever the truth maybe about our ancestors people often forget why these outlandish things are spread by each side Left wing - India is not a country and every identity is fighting each other is not that good for the future of nation Right Wing - India is a nation from the beginning and should remain so for eternity is kind of good for the future of the nation Yes , both have problems, left willingly or unwillingly destroying the native faiths Right is hell bent on destroying foreign faith . On that note ,please don't be apologetic for stupid people all around us . Because shouldn't't they need to learn about it.
Have you heard of the Heggarty et al paper from last year about the hybrid model of Indo-European languages. It suggests that the Indo-Iranic branch could have been around the Indus valley by 5000 years ago, and makes sense of the language distribution, some of the genetic evidence, and the Anatolian languages, among other features. I found it interesting. I'd previously been convinced of a Pontic steppe origin for the IE languages but this paper made reconsider. I think there may be some conflicts with the archaerology though, but I'm not well-informed enough to evaluate those
WWII Nazis were obsessed with the Germanic warlords of the past.. from Hermann/Arminius to Theodoric to Friedrich Barbarrosa. It didn't end well for the Nazis.
The nazis lost because the allies overwhelmed them and they lost their attempt at global dominance. Also of note, there were issues internally, because it turns out command economies are awful.
@ninthheretic2498the Nazis were high on their own propaganda that they were the master race. All other peoples were degenerate. That’s why they underestimated the Russians. Plus they got really poor lol
19:50 - 20:05 I disagree with this assertion about anti colonialism and nationalism being some how at odds. It may be true that modern nationalism that is most often expressed in nation states mostly came out of the west, but that does not mean that it is “western”. Nationalism, or the idea that a group of people with a common culture and/or language should resist oppression and fight for a homeland is a concept so old the second book in the Bible is dedicated to it. You can go to the most isolated tribe in the Amazon and see a primitive form of nationalism being expressed, whether or not it’s expressed in clear or definitive terms. I caution to ask if not nationalism, what should a anti-colonialist movements be built around? Class struggle? I can hardly think of a concept more western in nature since ideas of class consciousness only truly came into being in Europe during and after the Industrial Revolution.
@@WorldofAntiquity Then with all due respect sir, what were you trying to say there, I run into that argument a lot in university from my professors and they often use similar language when making that point.
@@jake_from_state7143 "Normally, we think of anticolonialism as left wing. But Hindutva is right wing. So both sides use it." I am not sure what is so hard to understand about that.
"The idea that a group of people with a common culture and/or language should resist oppression and fight for a homeland" conflates two distinct things when applying it to pre-modern conditions. Yes, there were peoples identifying with a shared culture, language or polity, and yes, there's a natural desire to resist oppression and defend your land (though that might just be your part of it, or the land of your village). But the second doesn't follow from the first, it's a different and universal phenomenon. Nationalism is a fairly recent (and western) innovation, but it's taken three forms: a desire for independence from a foreign oppressor (the anti-colonialist variant); pursuit of cultural, linguistic or political unity (the "nation-building" form, often well-intentioned but too easily tipping into oppression of minorities); and belief in a mystical underlying unity too often accompanied by notions of exceptionalism or superiority - ironically the very doctrines that propelled the colonialism that the more "defensive" nationalism opposed. I long shared your view that nationalism could be "civilised" and turned to positive ends, but I'm afraid experience both before and since the 20th-century heyday of classic anti-colonial struggle suggests that it's too dangerous a doctrine. That doesn't preclude nationhood or the right to self-determination and for peoples to live in peace under institutions of their choosing (which I'd offer as an answer to your question about alternatives), but as an ideology nationalism has become more of a menace to our shared human civilisation than a force for good.
When it comes to the hindutva movement the key phrase in it is “consider the Indian subcontinent as their father land AND HOLY LAND”. This by default excludes not only ethnic foreigners but also Hindi and other indigenous people to the Indian subcontinent who adhere to islam and Christianity. It’s impossible for any Abrahamic adherent to consider anywhere other than the Levant and it’s immediate surroundings to be holy land. It is a convenient criteria not only to root out ethnic minorities but religious minorities as well.
Importantly, their definition roots out the indigenous people of the country, who have been relegated to the hills and the backwaters of society, while in our democratic age their population numbers have been appropriated as Hindus, despite their historic exclusion from Hindu sites and ceremonies.
> It’s impossible for any Abrahamic adherent to consider anywhere other than the Levant and it’s immediate surroundings to be holy land Not exclusively... Mormons and some other American offshoots of Protestants claim (falsely) that America is the REAL lands from the Bible, and also by New Testament, Jesus kind of downplays the importance of a PLACE (any place) in His talk with a Samaritan woman, so any Christian technically can claim ANYWHERE else as another "Holy Land". Notably, for us it's Kyiv. The place where Rus' was first Christened, down with a myth of Andrew the Disciple visiting the hills it stands on and proclaiming that it would be a place for a great city. That's why russian imperialism keeps trying their 2-3 day march on it, as their entire racial supremacy theory doesn't work without holding Ukrainian capital. Hell, biggest denomination of Christians is Roman Catholic and their Holy Place is Rome, in Italy... And we Orthodox kind of hold Constantinople in similar regard.
I was thoroughly offended that this video didn’t offend me!!! I went into this video assuming I’d be offended! You took the time to offend a lot of other people, but neglected to offend me! Also please make that Levant video. Would love to learn about historical accuracy of the story of Passover, not the plagues part but Jewish people being enslaved in Egypt
12:49 you articulated that beautifully. I hear so many professors trying to say the same thing, but it comes out as “race isn’t real” which in my experience puts off people who appreciate their diverse background. A much clearer way to say it. Thank you.
I remember my grandmother telling me, "I don't care what they teach you in school. The World of Antiquity RU-vid channel was researched and presented by Prof. Graham Hancock PhD."
@@nebulan went straight to the comments in the "politicized history" video and the 3rd comment in was history-free snark about Jews. (Excuse me, I only mean the 9 million "Zionists" and the Jews worldwide who like Israel. Not saying that's antisemitic or anything).
I enjoyed hearing your thoughts. When I was at the Yerkes Primate Center at Emory University, we had an initiative to bring hard scientists like molecular biologists together with sociologists, primatologists, and psychologists. The idea was to bring the tools of molecular biology and chemistry, etc. Into those fields.... and to enhance the scientific tools they used. As a molecular biologist by training, I enjoyed sitting in on lab meetings and journal clubs with sociologists and psychologists. The topics were amazing. But the culture clash was huge. Their ideas of what a control is would never survive in a molecular lab. Their endpoints and measurement techniques were shockingly subjective, despite their best efforts. Some of this is inevitable. I came away deeply impressed by the extreme difficulty in designing an objective test of the human mind - a nearly impossible task if there were not ethical constraints. You seem to be more toward the hard data and objective results end of the spectrum - even though ancient civilizations make deciding what the hard data actually means extremely difficult. I think you might gain a lot by taking a similar journey - sitting in on journal clubs in the women's studies department and in the chemistry or physics department. The differences in the "scientific method" as it exists in these areas of inquiry are quite informative.
Good work Dr. M. You have been a great spokesperson for the practice of examining evidence and moderating conclusions based upon what can be reasonably drawn from it. Your insight into the many ways our knowledge of the ancient past can be impacted, altered, and distorted by those who endeavor to propound a given historical narrative in promotion of an ideological agenda is legitimate and valuable, in my opinion. The fact that you present with such rigor and enthusiasm for the topics you cover while honoring the mainstream historical method, and your debunking of heavy hitters in the LAHT throng has made you a natural target of certain taxa of alt-theorists. In my view you acquit yourself admirably whilst addressing and responding to critics.
David's claims to not want to politicize history comes off as crypto-natoinalist motivated. On the one side he frames DNA evidence, a legitimate source of scientific evidence, as pseudo-scientific ethno nationalism. On the other he flip-flops by using DNA evidence to argue Jews are related to ancient Jews. David changes his own alleged scientific principles when it suits him. David isn't very credible.
As an Israeli who always believed in both the right of Jews on the land and the right of Palestinians for statehood - exactly because, like you say, 'so much has happened since then' - I really do appreciate the professionalism and unbiased approach you took in addressing the usage of ancient history (fabricated or real) in this conflict. I knew I was right to subscribe to this channel... 🙂
All we have is the here and now and we should think in those terms alone therefore it's my opinion that those Palestinians who have never known Palestine should be given status in the place they happen to be and where appropriate compensated too Within Israel/Palestine itself civil rule should be extended across the Green Line and the barriers removed
Regarding your last argument about your aside, I came into the discussion fully on the side of the commenters; but due to your clear explanation, I can absolutely see where I was previously in error. Thank you!
Love your video. I think it is very important people are reminded that politics has no business in investigating history, and using it to validate their belief system. History needs to be looked at objectively, and presented factually.
Exactly! all I can think is if I was asked to read the script over, I would have said the same thing, or to use the analogy that he used in this video "maybe it's not good to go over and offer those kids candy from an optics standpoint"
So he first says he won’t be expressing a political bias, that everyone on both sides of the aisle does it but then lists four ways this is done ... three of which were right wing.
ethnic claims are only associated with the right if you're a Yuro or a yank. He even says this in the video, and it only takes taking a look at south america or asia to know this is truth.
@@ColasTeam you think that anti-ethnic claims of left wing academics aren't also inherently political? Just as some people falsely attribute extra greatness, exclusivity and credit to their ancestors for political reasons so too do others falsely discredit, disparage and even outright deny the existence of a people for political reasons. In the west right now the latter is far more common than the former and has large amount of institutional backing. That's why so many of them get their panties in a knot when it comes time to deal with integrating the results of advanced in archeogenetics
A friend of mine from Gaza is from a family that claims decent from the very first Christians in the region, certainly their church is 1600 years old. The origins of the Palestinians are a mixture of ancient Canaanites, Jews who were just one subset of Canaanites, Philistines and other ancient immigrants, followed by medieval Arabs and more immigrants, and so on. Until recent times Mizrahi Jews living there were also considered Palestinian and many now seek to reclaim that identity.. Palestine has been a melting pot for millenia and for anyone to seek to claim it on the basis of a narrow set of genetic markers is ridiculous. The only relevant criteria is international law and human rights.
It seems that Arab colonization was limited due to the fact there weren't many of them which is bourne out though modern DNA analysis Also there is actually zero evidence to prove the Romans wanted to clear out the Jews anymore than any other rebellious province
You should film yourself wandering around Foerster"s house whilst exclaiming loudly how the people that live here now were far too primitive to have ever constructed such complexity. And how it must have been some superior immigrants ! ❤
Sometimes history is written by the survivors or the incompetent or a mixture of both. Went out one day to look at a grave of a half Chinese Eurasian man. His mainly European descendants not only erased any mention of his “Chineseness”, they also got his death date incorrect. A bit sad really, because he was really proud of his Chinese half but … Leung become Leon etc.
@@PlatinumAltaria no that's not the problem at all... I was just truly amazed by your comment, but on further thought I suspect there is a pretty high likelihood of you being some form of neurodivergent and incapable of detecting sarcasm and jokes. If you would like me to break down the comment for you, I'd be happy to help...
The inherent morality vs facts part of this discussion is extremely interesting to me - at university ten years ago I was strictly instructed that well researched facts were suitable for inclusion in essays on archaeology, but was marked down more than once for not making value judgements in history essays, and I'm still torn as to which is 'correct'. Certainly history is more interesting when someone tries to make a point with it, but something happening to be interesting doesn't necessarily mean it is of value. Left me with a strong feeling that history, as practiced by the education system, is a political plaything to be aimed in any direction the wielder wishes rather than an earnest effort to understand humanity. Has that whole "doomed to repeat it" maxim constantly gnawing at me.
I myself see both left and right, wings of the same bird of prey. America is headed in one direction. Church and state the synthesis of the far swinging pendulum of recent history. I would move, by design.
🎯 Astute observation which happens to be correct. I watched a doco some time back about the rise of the _"Alt-Right"_ - which is behind a lot of the problems in the US today to include suppression of education and historical revisionism. It appears to have began in the 80's under Reagan. Prior to Reagan the Dems had a literally decades long control of the political process having controlled both Houses of Congress for many years. Reagan per his _"big tent"_ policy changed that. To win he embraced the far-Right evangelicals which previous GOP politicians had largely ignored - save for at a local level. Subsequently this allowed them access to the White House and political discourse to affect policy changes. If you are old enough to remember the 80's was the rise of _"the Religious Right."_ Yet to garner political power requires = 💰 So these eventually to be seen as Alt-Right _"Christian Nationalists"_ made a deal. They approached GOP donors and cut a bargain with them. In exchange for tens of millions in funding the Fundies promised via their network of Churches etc. to tout to their minions the supposed benefit of = Corporate America. So the 80's is when things like tax cuts and deregulation became a quasi-religion within the rubepublican electorate. In exchange for financial support to enhance political power the far-Right embraced _"corporatism"_ and support for the rubepublican corporate donor class - who has benefitted mightily in the years since. Moral: absolutely all we see vis a vis stacking the bench with ideological Fundie jurists and pushing all the _"culture war"_ crapola is intentional - decades in the making. The QOP corporate donor base supports it because in return it gets more tax cuts and deregulation. This is like 1930's Europe as the rise of Fascism was heavily supported by the intervention of Industrialists who recognize they would profit under their policies. On the cultural side these Christian Nationalist fanatics very much want to create _"a Theocracy"_ under the control of the white, Christian Fundie zealots not unlike say the Mullahs of Iran. They do not actually believe in the Constitution which they see as an impediment. They can more aptly be viewed as: _"the American Taliban."_
Just look at the China claim to south china sea and Israel claim to Palestinian land. Imagine your family clan lived there for 200 years then some stranger start attacking and stealing your land and sea the reason they do this is because their ancestors owned it 1000 years ago.
Fantastic video and I fully support the thesis about the dangers of allowing politics to dictate history. I wanted to comment to commend your rhetoric in this video. It’s really difficult to argue about political subjects without seeming to come down on one side and attacking the other , even if very implicitly, and I thought you did a really good job disarming the common attacks leveled at academics from detractors on both sides while still showing sympathy.
@@Giantcrabz If I compare what is happening in the Gaza Ghetto today and what happened in the Warsaw Ghetto almost a century ago, being evenhanded would be called prejudiced and antisemitism. If I quote both Hillel the Elder, "What is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow: this is the whole Torah; the rest is the explanation; go and learn." and Mohammad in the Kitab Al-Kafiy, "As you would have people do to you, do to them; and what you dislike to be done to you, don't do to them." Then both sides will be angry and both will ignore the content.
@@Giantcrabz- Not all topics need a 'side', and for history, what we want is accuracy and truth. Six million Jews, and some four million others, were murdered by the Nazis. But if we approach it with a simplistic 'Good v Evil' mindset, we won't understand how and why it happened.
@@JMM33RanMA Gaza is like the one conflict where it IS actually "both sides". Especially compared to such one-sided things as Assad massacring his own people, Myanmar junta destroying local villages on helicopters or the russia... everything they do.
@@KasumiRINA That is why I reluctantly take a position of, "A pox on both their houses," from Shakespeare. However I pity the innocents on both sides, caught between both sides' militant 'muminun kadhibun,'which could be translated as ignorant aggressors or partisans.
I love your "guilt and glory" example. I've always felt people's pride for what their distant distant relatives did as odd. It's like just learn a skill and be proud of that.
I think a lot of the anger in the culture war side of things comes from a sense of having been provoked. It's certainly how I felt when I was in college. I wasn't a right wing person, but the left wing version of things offended my desire for clarity and honesty so greatly, that I couldn't help but search for the language to fight against such politicisation. In any conflict, the people who offer the best tools for opposing one side are often the other side in that same conflict. Because they've already been fighting this same force. The irony then is, that in trying to oppose the corruption of neutral things like truth, we are tempted into taking sides in a conflict, even unintentionally. We sharply separate ourselves from the enemy we are familiar with, and allow ourselves to be influenced by a more subtly corrupting influence. It takes great effort and intention to remind yourself of what you originally valued and to continuously re-assess your own position and extricate yourself from these push and pull forces, especially when your social circle seems to place great importance on them. Being even tangentially involved in a conflict is liable to make even level heads emotional. If you've ever been publicly accused of something you didn't do, if you've ever been subjected to another person's prejudices without the opportunity (or capacity) to refute it, if you've ever felt at odds with the mainstream currents in society, then you know how much it can affect the trajectory of your beliefs and actions. You know how hard it is just let something like that go. I'd hazard that this applies to young people a great deal more, who are only just starting to assert themselves as individuals. Such slights are taken very personally, and so it fells perfectly natural to allow yourself to be sucked into a conflict. And this is actually, in my view, one of the most terrible outcomes of the politicisation of history and intellectual pursuits more generally. It results in young, capable, and curious people being shunted off the path to wisdom and onto the path of resentful bickering for social status within one group or another (often torn between two or more).
Wait isn't Conan a Cimerrian? I hardly know much about them, we only learned a little bit in ancient history of Ukraine. Something about blood of your enemies, women weeping?
as a leftist snowflake with a serious interest in learning history through an unbiased lens, i love this video 😊 no notes. thank you for your hard work.
Likely. Those who approach such videos with a preexisting bias - such as the LAHT fanboy club - cannot be expected to finish the video. Upon seeing their fantastical assumptions go up in smoke this will generate "angst" which they invariably counter by ceasing to watch it. Moral: LAHT lives in the fantasy world of _"my belief......"_ They comically - yet sadly - assume their supposed reality based upon a subjective desire to = assume themselves as always right - which of course is nonsense. When people do not accede to reality they might be wrong about something they are on the path of self-delusion. The key here per science/logic is for them to learn = they are not the arbiters of validity here - the experts are. They are simply "cursory viewers" of information presented on the internet where misinformation can abound depending upon source. The reason we educate ourselves is not simply to learn new things = it is to learn to recognize above........
HIstory should indeed be about facts. What you're forgetting is that everyone brings bias to the investigations, interpretations, and narratives about the past. It's always political in nature, whether you like it or not.
While I do think it can be useful to look back at ancient history to try to draw comparrisons to the modern day, it's just not well known enough to the public, often not relevant enough, and is often manipulated to fit a narrative
This may just be one of the most relevant videos i've seen on RU-vid, Thank you very much for addressing this issue, i just discovered your channel, awesome! Greets from Mexico
26:53 land belongs to those who control it. That’s a basic fundamental principle of the United Nations. No morality or cultural sensitivity or ancient blood and soil arguments are needed.
