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When Doing Things Wrong Sounds Good 

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It was late at night and I had spend three days reworking my mixing setup downstairs, when I accidentally went way into the deep red on my audio interface, pushing + 20dB and more. And it sounded amazing! I immediately shot this video, thinking I had discovered a hidden feature of the RME Babyface Pro. But just as I was wrapping up I discovered that there was something else at play...
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@Hainbach
@Hainbach 6 месяцев назад
Support my descent into test equipment madness: patreon.com/hainbach
@MHoodFishing
@MHoodFishing 6 месяцев назад
I challenge you to make cumbias rebajadas with test equipment.
@Ojref1
@Ojref1 6 месяцев назад
That is sick, Trent Reznor would surely approve.
@bartektrame8801
@bartektrame8801 6 месяцев назад
Love these "emerging properties" of more complex analog Setups. So impenetrable thought
@Hainbach
@Hainbach 6 месяцев назад
It baffles me how this happened. I have a limiter on my main mixer upstairs so I never got into this crazy territory there
@goonfish
@goonfish 6 месяцев назад
Except this is all plastered through that digital feedback for that key, super-aliased... distortion stuff!
@glebpalamarchuk9087
@glebpalamarchuk9087 6 месяцев назад
Mixer overdrive is actually a sound of a lot of different genres. Gabber producers used it to enhance their kicks, a lot of guitars were recorded that way without a preamp on some rock classics, jhs even made a pedal based on that premise. Although none of those sound like what you have here, absolutely amazing. Edit: oh, I see now what went differently haha
@shannoneldridge5690
@shannoneldridge5690 6 месяцев назад
There is a cricket in my house that was synced to the beat and mixed with the digital filth. It sounded awesome!
@davidgoeller5843
@davidgoeller5843 6 месяцев назад
I love when this happens. One time I was outside listening to an Aphex Twin song and there was a bird complimenting it so well I wasn't sure if it wasn't actually part of the song for several minutes.
@Metamerist625
@Metamerist625 6 месяцев назад
a beautiful peice of synchronicty!
@davegesell5470
@davegesell5470 6 месяцев назад
I believe at 6:17 we see the first glimpse of a Hainbach Rock n' Roll face ever recorded.
@Hainbach
@Hainbach 6 месяцев назад
Had to make it the thumbnail to commemorate that moment
@LordMarlle
@LordMarlle 6 месяцев назад
Let's rock!
@ikjleio
@ikjleio 6 месяцев назад
The pinging jam definitely gives me a tense action-horror score vibe
@fus132
@fus132 6 месяцев назад
Makes me wanna run for the hills honestly
@Animal_lives_matter
@Animal_lives_matter 6 месяцев назад
That piece at the end was by far the best of the lot imo
@Hainbach
@Hainbach 6 месяцев назад
Yeah that was the first one I actually worked on, the other were just sound tests when setting up
@tl880linux
@tl880linux 6 месяцев назад
It would be interesting to see the spectrum analysis of this. The feedback could be throwing up some stuff near or above the audible range. Maybe that's doing weird things to the antialiasing filter on the interface?
@Hainbach
@Hainbach 6 месяцев назад
Yeah there seems to radio frequency stuff being thrown up? Have to do a test for that indeed, will post in the community notes if I find something
@CatFish107
@CatFish107 6 месяцев назад
​@@Hainbach Why do I get the feeling we are about to Simon the magpie drop a video titled "I turned my old mixer into an x-ray machine"?
@H3adcrash
@H3adcrash 6 месяцев назад
Fun stuff! It's like a modern variant of how the kick in old hardcore was done. A 909 kick fed into the mic input of a mixer or preamp, and overdriven heavily.
@Hainbach
@Hainbach 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, Minus the weird feedback loop that made the converters on the RME freak out
@Rr0gu3_5uture
@Rr0gu3_5uture 6 месяцев назад
In the early 90s, I made quite a few Hardcore tunes for teenagers in my local neighbourhood. I'd always do this, TR-909 kick in the mic input, gain knob set to ten, fader down low. Also used an Arion distortion pedal, and a Boss CS-2 in the channel insert, as this tightened up the kick quite a bit, if I'm remembering correctly. For some reason, distorting the kick using those old Mackie/Soundcraft mixers always sounded a lot better than just sending it directly into a pedal for some reason.
@regplasma7906
@regplasma7906 6 месяцев назад
6.34 My face when clearing up the cat tray !
@arcticrunning8370
@arcticrunning8370 6 месяцев назад
I had to push the volume to 15 on this video, so cool!
@kevinaaronson
@kevinaaronson 6 месяцев назад
Holy smokes, the last minute is pure evil. Amazing.
@loopinnerthe
@loopinnerthe 4 месяца назад
A real Hainbachgasm in this video... I have always been convinced that part of the lush sound of tube amps comes from the huge transformers. I would be fascinated to see someone build a transistor amp that runs at 100s of volts and uses big output transformers to get the final signal into an 8ohm speaker... maybe one day I will have to do it. Great video. Such fun to see an experiment in progress and the mystery solved.
@CinematicLaboratory
@CinematicLaboratory 6 месяцев назад
When you go against common wisdom, it will lead to new knowledge, which will add to common wisdom when you go against it. Wisdom is a feedback loop too :).
@StellarWorks2023
@StellarWorks2023 6 месяцев назад
Such a thick, lush distortion and feedback tone. To have such hardware at your disposal must be a never-ending adventure! Also, the Hainbach "stank face" is a wondrous sight to behold 😁
@bazedjunkiii_tv
@bazedjunkiii_tv 6 месяцев назад
the second half reminded me of some fierce underground techno basement live jams of the 90s where it was all about use and abuse. of gear, ofc.
@orjis
@orjis 6 месяцев назад
Feedback loops are very fun, infinite possibilities of wild soundscapes and stuff. I should mess with them again
@Kettupaini
@Kettupaini 6 месяцев назад
One day I got same kind of feedback with Tremolo, Noise Gate and OD pedals and it all started with AUX send to input and having those pedals connected in different ways. Audio signals are really interesting!
@Mad_Speed
@Mad_Speed 5 месяцев назад
Reminds me of a recording I did recently where the artist wanted to have an angsty scream. We recorded one layer clean and then another layer with way too much gain going into the pre-amp (intentionally) to get a distorted layer
@isyourguy2934
@isyourguy2934 6 месяцев назад
very cool! it sounds like the test equipment is generating content way above the nyquist, which introduces aliasing. anything beyond that i'd defer to the hardcore engineers! one interesting thought though: i wonder why the mixer circuit doesn't have a low pass filter set above the nyquist in the analog signal path before the ADC? maybe there's a good reason for it, or maybe there is one but the slope is gradual enough to still let some through. the feedback would probably make that small amount extremely audible. all speculation though! 🤔 anyway, great video!
@Hainbach
@Hainbach 6 месяцев назад
Yeah I share your hypnothesis - it seems the most logical.
@DasDoktorchen
@DasDoktorchen 5 месяцев назад
In less extreme settings converter clipping is also used in mixing/mastering for electronic music. But I never pushed it that far. Very interesting video 👍
@WastelandSurvival2
@WastelandSurvival2 6 месяцев назад
*tinnitus has entered the chat* haha
@lumpielump3576
@lumpielump3576 6 месяцев назад
how lovely! soundpack pretty please!
@Hainbach
@Hainbach 6 месяцев назад
It’s on my Patreon ❤️
@corridor444
@corridor444 6 месяцев назад
I like the high pitched
@pzedozmusic
@pzedozmusic 6 месяцев назад
I love your videos. At this stage, I think you could play two spoons and get 1000’s of views. 😂 Thanks, you make me smile.
@adeptusmechanicus7572
@adeptusmechanicus7572 6 месяцев назад
Those effects are so cool sounding
@janedagger
@janedagger 6 месяцев назад
Accidents and mistakes are often called genius later. Its...accepting these things that take you outside and spank you ... that are valuable
@DoomedMoviethon
@DoomedMoviethon 6 месяцев назад
That fake out ending. LOL.
@PaulOkon1981
@PaulOkon1981 6 месяцев назад
Slow zoom in through a dark hall way to a slightly cracked door flowing with crimson red light
@thefantasticlaurab
@thefantasticlaurab 6 месяцев назад
love you Hainbach :) thanks for sharing such cool stuff with me!
@samuelgeai6306
@samuelgeai6306 6 месяцев назад
At the beginning, I ask myself "Why the sound is so low ?'". 5 minutes later "ah, ah, hmmm, yas !!! More!"
@tomp1585
@tomp1585 6 месяцев назад
off topic but I wonder if you discovered the new book Electronic Perspectives by Tom Rhea. This book is wall to wall eye candy, some amazing instruments in here, right up your alley.
@flowbius
@flowbius 6 месяцев назад
UIUIUIUI! Das geht aber heftig vorwärts's......... That's some sick beat. Sounds real good.
@b.slocumb7763
@b.slocumb7763 6 месяцев назад
I don’t know if you realize this, but watching your videos is super soothing. You’re like the European Crafsman Steady Craftin’. I could watch both of you all day! 😊
@benjaminbabb4658
@benjaminbabb4658 6 месяцев назад
I absolutely agree! I was going through liver failure a few years ago. Hainbach was one of the few things that helped me rest well.
@edgeeffect
@edgeeffect 6 месяцев назад
The final section was giving me huge "Forbidden Planet" vibes. :)
@DTZinatbakhsh
@DTZinatbakhsh 6 месяцев назад
This would be a great dub siren
@MoraFermi
@MoraFermi 6 месяцев назад
OW! Listening to this on headphones was a very bad idea.
@Hainbach
@Hainbach 6 месяцев назад
Yeah keep a hand on the volume dial 😬
@xfghffhfg
@xfghffhfg 5 месяцев назад
Feedback aside, I don't think the "drive" that any drive comes from the babyface inputs, it seems that you mostly drive your mixer outputs. When you drive an audio interface analog input you drive the analog gain staging/butter and maybe the analog part of the converters, so what you will hear will always be "analog saturation" no digital artifacts unless you pass the 144dB 24 bit potential dynamic range of the converters digital output (or the thousands db's dynamic range of total mix = 40dB 🙂 Btw, If some overdrive comes from the babyface it will be easier to "push" without the pad. If you only hear overdrive with the pad engaged it's suggesting the saturation comes solely from the mixer.
@frywolny
@frywolny 6 месяцев назад
That was great!
@Poly_0000
@Poly_0000 6 месяцев назад
I feel like I hear this kind of effect a lot on SNDs work
@v1sq
@v1sq 6 месяцев назад
had to double check if my tinnitus came back lmao
@leonpage2777
@leonpage2777 6 месяцев назад
That's basically German Techno. 😉
@SoundsMick
@SoundsMick 6 месяцев назад
Have also experienced this with my Babyface. Tho at the time I thought YUCK, but this likely what I was accidentally sending into it, this does sound very characterful, will experiment with different inputs! Feedback patch just before the edge was cool, startling metal clangs.
@Hainbach
@Hainbach 6 месяцев назад
I am guessing the passive filter acts as an antenna and throws up radio frequencies, which trigger those sounds? Maybe try that? Curious what you will find
@SoundsMick
@SoundsMick 6 месяцев назад
@@Hainbach Yeah I think you're right, the ping is a very pure and gently 'dusty' sound. Complex sounds probably sound very nasty. I will experiment.
@celtislam
@celtislam 6 месяцев назад
Love it
@MrOtistetrax
@MrOtistetrax 6 месяцев назад
Strong Speedy J, circa Public Energy era vibes.
@nickmarkham3743
@nickmarkham3743 6 месяцев назад
I do stuff like this on my modular as well. In my case, it's just a sine wave playing just outside human hearing, intermodulating with whatever else is playing into a nonlinear mixer. (a moog cp3 clone with feedback patched from its output to an input to facilitate enough gain to clip the signal to hell and back. :3 ) Good fun! Try it out and let us know if you get similar results!
@nickmarkham3743
@nickmarkham3743 6 месяцев назад
To clarify the signal flow, mix one extremely high pitched sine wave with your pinged filters, and feed the whole thing into, essentially, an overdrive. (In my case, the overdrive was a CP3 feeding back on itself, which creates a very aggressive gain boost and the mixer becomes a clipper. )
@G.GordonMidi
@G.GordonMidi 6 месяцев назад
“Hi I’m Hainbach, and it’s good to have you bach.”
@thegrimyeaper
@thegrimyeaper 6 месяцев назад
1:25 VERY Fischerspooner
@heliumtrophy
@heliumtrophy 6 месяцев назад
Had a real Pan Sonic feel to it. Of course I loved it!
@Kablehead
@Kablehead 6 месяцев назад
I know that some of the famous engineers sometimes drive their digital converters a bit. But this high pitched noise sounds awful to me. But we all got different ears apparently. :)
@axis_8
@axis_8 6 месяцев назад
There you have the basis for at least one album! Thanks fir sharing!
@keithraney2546
@keithraney2546 6 месяцев назад
CRUNCHY GLITCHES ! great !
@resonance378
@resonance378 6 месяцев назад
Agree with many people here on the NIN/Reznor sounds etc. Would also add Death in Vegas / Richard Fearless to the mix based on that outro.
@FRIDGEYTHEGOAT
@FRIDGEYTHEGOAT 6 месяцев назад
I love your experimentations! such unique sounds through all this amazing vintage gear.
@henryhill92
@henryhill92 6 месяцев назад
Would love to hear you do a test equipment industrial album that goes into these noisier and more distorted territories!
@baltimoreluke
@baltimoreluke 6 месяцев назад
wow. that sound is like bit crushed, bleached of tone, 1990s DOD thrasher pedal...wait was this track on Broken?
@tru7hhimself
@tru7hhimself 6 месяцев назад
at first i turned the volume up a bit because it was very quiet, then i had to turn it all the way down because the high pitched noise was unbearaby loud (it was fine again at the very end). please for the sake of your own ears, don't play this patch again with headphones, better play on speakers while your kids are in the room and turn it off if they run away screaming. or alternatively capture it on tape and only listen at half speed. my presonus has a warm analogue-sounding overdrive/soft-clipping if you drive it into the red a bit. i've never gone further than that.
@doctorc-ton1099
@doctorc-ton1099 6 месяцев назад
I am certain that you experienced the "mixer-as-a-synth" episode from Simon (The Magpie)? I felt you had a feedback thing going on as you were playing. Believe it or not, I didn't know that I was already doing that when i wired my guitar amp into itself and playing it's EQ knobs getting weird noises back in the very late 1900's, and recording it to my Teac A-3440. Cheers!
@UCCLdIk6R5ECGtaGm7oqO-TQ
@UCCLdIk6R5ECGtaGm7oqO-TQ 4 месяца назад
1:25 6:31 Awesome stuff, very much my cup of tea. Hints of Panasonic, Sleeparchive, Aleksi Perala... I spend my life searching for music like this.
@NicStage
@NicStage 5 месяцев назад
One of the coolest things about thinking something is something is when you find out it's actually not. We can add "Make a box to think outside of" to the deck of oblique strategies. :)
@baddriddimworkshop
@baddriddimworkshop 6 месяцев назад
Take a drum sound inside any amiga 500 game disk, put it in octamed (in fact you'll have to open octa and then insert a game disk...), go to the editor, and boost gain to the max... sereval times... and watch the waves flatten up on each phase more and more, then trig... and have a nice day... (sound system filth: rom -tom_tom!... a 909 in a disto aint nothing compared to this...)
@synth-eticfantasies5683
@synth-eticfantasies5683 6 месяцев назад
What a filthy yet beautiful sound! You are a master at creating unique soundscapes!
@stefanherzog
@stefanherzog 6 месяцев назад
And the 2024-Q1 Award in the category Best Thumbnail Stankface goes to...
@bitegoatie
@bitegoatie 6 месяцев назад
I have to imagine nothing good about the sound came from pushing the RME. It's a great interface - the fact that you could do what you did without a horrendous noise or some failure or other speaks to its being a very well-made audio interface. But overdrive at those levels from digital converters is unpredictable at best and deeply unpleasant in the more-common worst cases. Of course, that small window of unpredictability could bring some good sound or other. Even then, however, you might not get another good sound over a long period of experimentation with different combinations. It made much more sense when you realized you were dealing with a feedback channel that was making the evocative, vocal-like noises. Not that the interface couldn't do it, in principle, just by odd circumstance. It is just so unlikely, and so much else in the set-up makes nonlinear craziness as a matter of course. In any case, thanks for sharing the result and the inspection of the means to the end.
@deepblack67
@deepblack67 5 месяцев назад
Yeah, so I do that with an old RAMSA sound console where I use the 4 groups to feed effects pedals that I return to individual tracks and then mix back into each other while driving the gain and EQ, sometimes you get the bonus of phasing and amp interference. It gets weird, negative feedback, phasing in and out of master levels, raise the level and it gets quiter, lower and it gets louder. I would make that thing start to smoke. lol, fun
@IanBourneMusic
@IanBourneMusic 6 месяцев назад
Lovely, lovely filth 😀
@klinkske
@klinkske 6 месяцев назад
Yeah feedback mixing, i recognised it instantly. It s magic combined with sounds running into each other on the mixer.
@pawnotdaw4559
@pawnotdaw4559 6 месяцев назад
That was pretty cool. I'd heard of people clipping digital and thought it would sound pants but no.
@SunurEvulMorog
@SunurEvulMorog 5 месяцев назад
just found your channel and im in love ❤️‍🔥keep doing what your doing 👍
@pixellordxxl1529
@pixellordxxl1529 5 месяцев назад
Is there a way to feedback-mixing in a DAW? I gave it a try but it seems that there has to be at least one sample of delay in order to feedback, which creates a phasing sound 😢
@raecelta8150
@raecelta8150 5 месяцев назад
I have an MS-20 synthesizer and I will put the signal out into the external signal in and then crank the signal level and it makes the synth sound so dirty and cool.
@smusic-vm1zd
@smusic-vm1zd 6 месяцев назад
If you like these sounds, especially those around 6:15, I can heartily recommend the artist Container :)
@simoantere7283
@simoantere7283 6 месяцев назад
Sick sounds! Long live feedback howls!
@BrazenBull001
@BrazenBull001 6 месяцев назад
Why would you avoid clipping I love clipping Daveed Diggs is great
@derigel9783
@derigel9783 6 месяцев назад
With my Sony studioheadphones I could hear the 'swishing by a of a tentpole' at double the speed in thw beginning
@eyesintheskies
@eyesintheskies 5 месяцев назад
I heard Hainbach made his washing machine into a rotary speaker controls it with his microwave midi controller 🤔
@tapeexperiments
@tapeexperiments 4 месяца назад
After years of audio production, I still get a thrill when I see and hear live panning like this.🙂2:15
@hglauque
@hglauque 6 месяцев назад
he make acid core with just feeeback loop ok
@johngorgis
@johngorgis 6 месяцев назад
I tried to clip with my arturia audio fuse I would not recommend it It sounds really harsh
@RegebroRepairs
@RegebroRepairs 6 месяцев назад
Is it overdriving the RME that makes those aliasing beeps? I mean ouch. 😀
@Hainbach
@Hainbach 6 месяцев назад
I think it’s related to the high frequency stuff the Tiefpass throws up and blows open the filters on the RME DAC on high gain
@Subtronik
@Subtronik 4 месяца назад
Tinnitus 👀
@Rivenworld
@Rivenworld 6 месяцев назад
Love your sounds Dude, pretty awesome and surreal, love it! Does incredible things to my ears... A bit of music with the sounds of a radio tuning sounded pretty fantastic.
@Hainbach
@Hainbach 6 месяцев назад
It’s wild right? I am still glowing with excitement
@bombfog1
@bombfog1 6 месяцев назад
I have to say around 1:50 I was getting anxiety from the sounds, like the sounds you were making would be perfect in a horror game.
@Hainbach
@Hainbach 6 месяцев назад
Yeah it’s strange what these high pitched tones can release - I have learned to love them
@kevindewinter8235
@kevindewinter8235 6 месяцев назад
Nice!! Revor in 32bit float as a test Please
@isaacc7
@isaacc7 6 месяцев назад
I had to stop around 2 minutes in. My ears started to hurt!
@kierenmoore3236
@kierenmoore3236 6 месяцев назад
New genre: Cicada filth
@athko
@athko 6 месяцев назад
industrial techno on text equipment? hell yess
@athko
@athko 6 месяцев назад
i often find the most exciting sonic potentialities when i set up digital machines interacting with analog feedback loops.. the quadrantid swarm with its analog filter and wavetable oscillator is sorta built on that principle too, which ig is what is so cool about it
@athko
@athko 6 месяцев назад
discovery happens at the margins, when you try to break apart a system you have created yet do not fully understand
@NTD2827
@NTD2827 5 месяцев назад
Do you own any Death By Audio pedals?
@alexpasko1126
@alexpasko1126 6 месяцев назад
No Input Mixing life.
@paulov9626
@paulov9626 Месяц назад
I saw the word "FILTH" in the thumbnail for this video and was drawn in like a moth to a light... whooot? No belly dancers, fire breathers, snake wranglers or even an Elvira look a like as your "lab" assistant? Hainbach, we got to have a serious talk about your content. 😆
@Hainbach
@Hainbach Месяц назад
Elvira! I played the adventure game on the Amiga 500
@stefangieck2914
@stefangieck2914 6 месяцев назад
Wow! What were you smokin'?? Digital distortion always sounds terrible harsh and unpleasant (I thought). I can imagine you create a new hype and everyone and their dog will soon start to crank up their Babyfaces...
@Hainbach
@Hainbach 6 месяцев назад
As long as they have some strange feedback patch going it will sound interesting I hope
@JohnnysaidWhat
@JohnnysaidWhat 2 месяца назад
god i love how much he loves this ❤😂🎉
@NoHandlePlease423
@NoHandlePlease423 6 месяцев назад
Cicadas summer afternoons
@joshuahelmeke
@joshuahelmeke 6 месяцев назад
I just assumed that you were familiar with the technique of no input mixing. Your discovery reminds me of that technique. Keep experimenting.
@Hainbach
@Hainbach 6 месяцев назад
I am familiar with that indeed, and feedback mixing has been the core of how I work for years. But I have always had limiters on the master to protect me from digital overs. Going deep red into digital was something I avoided
@JayBirdJay
@JayBirdJay 5 месяцев назад
There's a brief moment at 6:45 that's just wonderful, a kind of arpeggiator vibe. The whole video is fantastic, but that was my favorite 😊
@JayBirdJay
@JayBirdJay 5 месяцев назад
Also, the thumbnail is hilarious. I love it!
@CVinyl
@CVinyl 6 месяцев назад
#AnalogBrothers #Koolkeith
@WayneLambrightIII
@WayneLambrightIII 6 месяцев назад
Keep the great work, consider adding known noise makers of interference to the electronics, like a local spark gap tesla coil. Those snaps and pops might be lovely.
@fahrenheit1391
@fahrenheit1391 6 месяцев назад
6:47 analog Uptempo :)
@JohnnysaidWhat
@JohnnysaidWhat 2 месяца назад
lovely filth ❤😂
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