When is it gluttony? | Fr. Gregory Pine, O.P. 

Freaking love this guy lol

Respectfully-Too many words-get to the core.

To be fair, religious often have one of their brothers reading a book to them as they eat :)

Put the fork down

Offering up Holy Mass for you, God wants to redeem us in our areas of Sin, through with and in Christ you will triumph and glorify him.

You don't specify what you think might be causing your struggle with gluttony, but if frequent food cravings and hunger is prompting it to any extent, I would suggest reading (or listening to) Tim Noakes or someone else who talks about high fat, low carb eating. It really does minimize the appetite and cravings that are caused by high carbohydrate eating. I have not struggled a lot with gluttony, but was having issues with putting on extra, unwanted weight with age. Drastically reducing carbs and consciously increasing dietary fat have helped SO much, and it doesn't involve chronic hunger, which I think is what eventually causes people to go back to eating more than their bodies need and/or being hungry and cranky. I prayed about what I should do to become healthier and God guided me toward Tim Noakes and back to weight lifting. Keep praying for guidance and you will find it. I will say a prayer for you as well and wish you well!

@@BrownOpsLeak stop giving in to temptation. Why do you keep sining?

From a physical standpoint- a lot of food tricks us to eat more- all the msg (or 50 other names for synthetic glutamate). Also, for me personally, dairy was a huge trigger- it always made me hungry. When I cut it out- my appetite went down. (dairy may not be an issue for you.) unprocessed foods are more filling. Try to keep your blood sugar stable. Praying for you!

Exactly, I always thought I was a glutton until I upped the meat and vegetables.

@@hopefull61256 im full carnivore now. Did organic, keto before. Never going going back. It cured all my chronic problems.

@@off-meta-michaelinteresting! Maybe one day I will need to but for now I love my flavors too much. 😅

⁠@@shepherdessinthefray Honestly, the giving up variety isn’t a problem once your body realizes how satiated it is on fatty meat. But, that’s when your talking about actual food and actual hunger, if you want something sweet, it’s not food your craving, but drugs.

@@warmywithcold i agree with this. Your sense of taste and fullness work as intended when you eat carnivore. It's actually not possible to gorge on fatty meat that is only seasoned with salt and butter. You literally lose a sense of how good it tastes as you start to finish the meal and won't eat more than you need. If anything it will look like you didnt eat enough at first, but you wont feel hungry or crave anything, but you also wont feel really full and never bloated.

That's helpful, thanks.

Many of my family have been morbidly obese and suffered due to it. They loved processed and fast food. Corporations employ “food scientists” for a reason - make the food addictive with salt and sugar. Eat real food that your ancestors would recognize and cook at home. If you stick to it, your tastebuds will change and so will your desire for junk. I have eaten a low carb diet for many years. I don’t really think about food. You’ll overcome it and it will be easy.

Alcohol too, and drugs

Life is a gift from God. No matter the test that comes you are made for everlasting joy. Carry this hope through all and remember to praise God regardless of whatever befalls you! God sees your Love, your every intention and surely desires to bless them. Remember the words of Our Lord: "ask and you shall receive, seek and you shall find, knock and the door shall be opened to you" - do not be afraid to ask for things and, when you do, be sure to have Faith that God can do what you are asking of Him! He loves you more than we can possibly comprehend and shall never abandon you to any true depravity! The Lord tests us but He never lets us go. Let us hold fast to Him and to His Truth of everlasting Love! God bless your children too. God has chosen to give them to you, nobody else, for He has seen it Infinitely Good to do so! He will aid you at every twist and turn. God is calling you to grow in faith - I shall pray that you answer His perfectly loving call! God bless you, Tiffany! Lose not ever your hope but instead clothe yourself in the True Abundance thereof that shall always exist, for Christ is Our Saviour and Heaven our home! Love and Peace in Jesus Christ

My prayers are with you, sister.

In the mighty name of Jesus AMEN, how could we donate or help!?

@@Morethangood.please be careful of scams

@@Morethangood. I've seen this comment in a few places, I think it's a scam so be careful

Bio male?

@@Malygosblues It's a sad day when you see this kind of crap infiltrating Catholics... He's probably been told to say "bio" male by teachers, parents, etc. He's male. A man. Not a woman, or female. The only 2 there is.

A good idea would be, at some point during Mass, to Pray for all those who comment on RU-vid asking for Prayers... following a bereavement, people who struggle with all kinds of temptation (who doesn't!) People who are just lonely, or sad, depressed etc.. A huge chain of Prayer.

Matthew 23:8-10 New International Version 8 “But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have one Teacher, and you are all brothers. 9 And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. 10 Nor are you to be called instructors, for you have one Instructor, the Messiah.

I think a slight calorie excess can be maintained without gluttony.

I had the same thought. I happened not to be eating while watching this particular video, but I easily could have been.

I had that too when I was pregnant with my first born.

How funny! It was actually pink oranges from Trader Joe’s with my first. And I never had them before or since…!

For me it was curried egg sandwiches .

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For me it was always Lemons. Salted.

As someone who also weight trains and over eats to gain muscle I disagree. Over eating is gluttney. We are eating more than we need to survive for self gain.

Well, if that is the case the fact is you don't have to be a weight builder - your choosing it and so your choosing to over eat just as if I choose to loose weight by vomitting ( I think they call it anorexia) I am choosing to harm myself physically and spiritually by not eating or eating and getting rid of it unnatrually. You can't blame the weight building.

If you can afford organic or healthier foods, then I think it should be fine to get it.

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Have you brought this up in depth with a priest/your confessor? You might find that helpful. God bless you Judey!

17:40 was a new insight for me. I do treat eating as perfunctory. It is dehumanizing. I can see this especially in my family. Sadly, as a father I've never emphasized dinner time as family time, for various reasons. But that's the point I see - it's unreasonable, hasty

Wow 21:20. So it's not just me. Yes, I stop eating by 4 or 5 and I have empty bowels and bladder by bedtime. I now rarely have nocturnal emissions or lustful dreams. I also eat less and have lost weight. I believe it's by the rectal vault being empty overnight - doesn't rub the prostate = less stimulation while sleeping. Id be interested in Fr Pine's analysis of nocturnal dreams if hes not yet discussed. Some say not sinful or polluting, but Fr Pacwa gave the insight of our Lord remaining awake in the Garden as the High Priests remained awake before Passover to avoid that very pollution. Not sure FrMitch was taking a stand one way or another, but Ive always confessed Nocturnal emissions (to consternation of some confessors). Doesnt hurt I think. They say not willful ergo not sinful but are we really not willful in our dreams? Sometimes in my dreams now I adamantly refuse lust, which makes me doubt that we get a free pass to lust in our dreams

Presumably if you're always eating less than you need, you'll eventually suffer health problems? Maybe if you need to lose weight this is okay for a time, but I don't think this is sustainable, and fasting isn't supposed to damage you. Context - written by someone who has struggled with being UNDERweight her entire life

For someone who struggless with being over weigth, I can say this makes perfect sense. It feels much better to be able to get up fro the table having room in your tummy, instead of having stuff oneself so much that its hard to get up from the table.

Well i belive that in traditional Sense that food Is eaten on desk withoud technology that's moustly un family so we concertrate on meal we eat! May Lord bless you AND your family Amen thanks to Lord For answering you I hope this helps

@@sebo3e Ok, so you're saying that it is better to concentrate on eating a meal rather than scrolling around on your phone, etc. What about snacks? Can I eat a snack while studying?

I think it can be done in moderation. An epic dirty bulk... probably best to avoid 😂

I think it falls under when the Bible says "a time for feasting and a time for fasting" I think once in a while would fall under the feasting category.

​@@mellieg.7543Well said

St. Thomas Aquinas was not fat.

St. Thomas Aquinas wasn't fat. He was well known to be a very strong man who spent hours and hours of his time traveling on foot, he ate little food, and the descriptions of his body are of him being large, not fat (rotundus). Broad shouldered and tall.

@@sebastianofmilan I am going to respectfully disagree unless you present some evidence . He was known for being obese. "Dumb ox" had multiple connotations.

@@sebastianofmilan can I have the citation?

I just double checked and G. K. Chesterton who wrote a wonderful book about St Thomas Aquinas even called him fat. This is the story I have heard all my life from multiple sources, I am open to new evidence though.

Eating when not hungry is only gluttony when it is boredom eating, ie, eating not to feed but for self simulation

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He made different snowmen of a wife and kids etc.

@@celiamergen2091why though? How did that help? No shade on st Francis. Obviously holier than I am. I’m just curious how that helped his temptations at all

@@Eilonwy95 I wasn't sure of the whole story so I looked it up and found a really cool commentary on the situation. So basically, Francis was tempted to be unchaste, so he decided to make himself a snow wife... Well, if he has a snow wife, he has to have snow children, well now he needs to make snow servants. And, how is he going to feed everyone? How is he going to make the money? He basically took living a non-celibate life to its realistic end. Well, having a wife means providing for a family. When he realized the reality of what taking his temptation to it's extreme would be, he found that it wasn't something he wanted at all. Now, it's not that he took his temptation and really thought about the temptation itself-- one does not fight a lustful thought by thinking it over... He distanced himself from it by the ridiculousness of a snow family, so he could think more realistically, more practically.

Also, if you really think about it, it's kind of hard to have a lustful thought, if you're cold in the snow trying to have the mental presence to do a physical and creative task like making snowmen, so it helps by distracting, and also by addressing the psychological and spiritual beliefs underpinning the temptation

Well, he basically said as much. He's also not saying we have to copy them.

And perhaps sins against the fifth commandment. If some priests want to argue that smoking a cigarette is such a sin, then certainly drinking infected pus would be as well

Jesus was classified as a glutton, a drunkard and as a possessed as well. Many atheists today say that the belief in God should be classified as a mental illness. My brother (who is an atheist) believes I'm an ignorant delusional retard because I'm Catholic. In a nutshell, I'm doing my best to be a saint. The world is against me because I'm not following its ways, but God's. I am not ashamed of the cross. I embrace it with all my heart ✝️

@@Heracleetus the drinking pus, just wow.

We are allowed to enjoy a feast (celebration). Just make sure we don't overindulge.

Hella like fr fr

For some people like myself that’s not easy.

@@lukebrown5395 oh I’m fat myself. I’m not saying it’s easy. I’m saying his explanation was way to complicated for me.

yeah as with other human weakness, it's simple until you see the human under the sin. It's like the parable of the wheat and the weeds, Jesus wants us in our weakness, so He doesn't uproot the weeds. You could easily say "if it's a weed, it has to be uprooted. Simple." But God wants people who are too weak to survive the weeds being uprooted that simply and brutally, and He wants to take the consequences on Himself. It is simple to you because you are strong in a way that obese people aren't, and in that way you're an image of God's strength. I'm most certainly not as strong as you in that way but I believe I'm meant to be an example of God's humility and mercy. Every victory I have over overeating is completely God's victory, and I wouldn't be able to understand that if God didn't make me weak enough to fail utterly for the majority of my life. I only can succeed with the intervention of God's grace. Today after many hard years, I'm healthy enough to run and not get tired, and I legitimately believed that was impossible for me for many many years. I know that even if I was the perfect weight it would be totally empty without God, and being healthy would only fuel my pride and ego, but if God makes me healthy, then it is amazing, explosively powerful, fruitful. And for me in particular, it is impossible without God. It is as simple as you are saying, but my weakness is just as simple. Making sense of it without God is where it gets over complicated.

@@Aaalllyyysssaaaaa it was meant as a light joke with some truth. I pray that I didn’t offend anyone. That wasn’t my intention. God bless and good luck to all in whatever areas they struggle with.

@@Tp-ik6vc not at all

Ya know, I don’t think he should worry about what is attractive! If he liked the beard, and it makes him less attractive, that’s probably a gift!

I would argue that he is more handsome right now! But it comes from a man that isn't able to grow proper beard like that

Thank you, Fr. Gregory!🙏

I would also say the beard suits him, from a strictly objective standpoint one could say it makes his face more symmetrical

His beard makes him look better. I’m a woman and say it in brotherly fashion. Not that it’s important to him how he looks as long as it’s least distracting to his catechisms and preaching

I like the beard!

I like it, too!