When Lightsabers are actually scary 

when does this mod come out, and what is it called

@@davidsamuels6912yeah any updates?

Dosen't look like the mod is up anymore

@@MuffHam oh no… it was up before??? So it’s technically out there. Anyone have the file?!! Guessing Wayback machine won’t help here.

@MugenWar1 do you have the file and/or mind sharing it? Doesn’t look like there’s a download option anymore…. And this is for Jedi Survivor, not Fallen Order, correct? ☺️

Well don't watch the Prequel content then.

Frankly the way they work in the Jedi games makes more sense. They have no cutting edge and nothing is hot enough to slice through matter like that. They are emitted from the hilt in a direct line, which means anything that passes through the blade should stop it and begin burning from the contact point, but not be immediately pierced.

@@reijishian2593dude, its actually so hot that anything would vaporize instantly. It can easily instantly cut someone in half.

​@@reijishian2593it really doesnt. Lightsabers whole entire concept is being hot enough to cut straight through pretty much anything. Also doesnt make sense because nothing can cut matter like that? This is a universe where telepathic lazer sword weilding magic soilders lift ships and speak from the dead. Not supposed to be realistic

​@reijishian2593 This is a science fiction movie. With all the voodoo space magic flying around. What makes you think a lightsaber isnt hot enough? We saw it slicing through steel barriers and droids in the movie.

OMG yes. I'd so buy that!

Honestly it'd doesn't even need to be m rated since it'd a laser sword just need the physics to be better.

A sith main character with it too

No the M rating needs to change! There’s no Blood no Gore to see here. Just some puppet like heads flying around. Big Deal. Even games like the new God of War are getting M ratings and they are nothing in comparison to the older titles. At least back in the day when something was rated M, it was actually for an 18+ audience. Buckets of blood, tits everywhere and guts spilling out. Nowadays people are oversensitive to this stuff.

@@dimeterchevaeros8480 Lol. It's like there needs to be child supervision should a kid get traumatized from pulling off his action figure's head.

Check my "Lore accurate Lightsabers" video. You will see some reaally nasty stuff 😉

It’s giving O-Ren Ishii’s death. But really all these angles are gut wrenching. Who cuts someone off at the shoulders still high enough to be before the armpits?! That’s what looked crazy to me.

"Just take a little off the top, please." "Say no more"

Also explains why ordinary people kept confusing the two

I just feared them both because one is meant to be a hero and the other a villain and their weapons of choice

I’m gunna say it was the ability to shoot lightning from one’s finger or force choke someone from across the room lol the cauterizing plasma de-limber was just a cherry on top imo 😂

They are scary 1 to 1 or 1 to 2-3 people because of the "extra" powers they have. With the proper guns and people they can be taken down easily. They are not some super beings that are immortal, they are just quicker. Also if the enemies stop using blasters and start using normal bullets - jedis/siths have no chance. Especially buckshot shotguns or high fire machine guns, no chance to deflect nor stop them. They are overpowered for our fun, but in reality they will be put down quite easily. :)

​@@victorgeorgievroadwell they can stop blaster laser and because their ability to see future so they know where the blaster shot... Not only that, in the original their movement is faster than in game so that's why people with lightsaber is so fearsome.

yeah having a blaster is more uncivilized than a personal guilotine weapon haha

Lol. Nice...

I mean you are one tapping them and not smacking with hot baseball bat. That's an improvement imo

@@grimmshredsanguinus2915 you can't deflect a shot with a blaster can you? And a lightsaber is meant to be a last resort weapon. At least for the Jedi

@@Gamma_249 yeah but not for obi wan

you haven't played jedi academy, amateur :>

​@@rotfl4Thinking about downloading this game

@@rexpowercolt8216It’s a great game. The dismemberment was insane.

@@KC_Smooth Thx buddy

You are 100 percent a darkside user then. XD

To be fair any color would look badass with all black. Like Luke with his green and just imagine a purple light saber with all black

@@imwayne4159 purple lightsaber with all black?.. *Mace Windu!* Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahha

What about when plasma blasters are actually plasma blasters?! Or that reality is a no, no, because you don't find it cool?

To be fair, it should be a Master Jedi/Sith and even then, there are possibilities to defeat them. They are mighty, but not gods.

Am I the only one who remembers Han just... frying Greedo through a steel table? Leaving his corpse smoking? From a PISTOL?

@@heardistance Would you really risk it though?

@@SgtHawk45 Jango Fett wasn´t a Jedi Master, but Obi Wan was not able to defeat him, multiple times.

@@heardistance Jango Fett was a Mandalorian, master class bounty hunter, and probably had beskar armor. Things 99.9% of people fighting a Jedi don't have

I mean this surpasses JK games in every way. It was good for it's time but the author of this mod made dismemberment actually dynamic. It has no predetermined spots for dismemberment like in any other SW game

​@@Sharp47 Agree. This dismemberment surpassed the JK games. Add to the fact that it was created by modders, not the official studio/creators. Hats off!

Every new Star Wars game that comes out I’m always like “damn I just wish they’d just remaster the JK series”

​@@maeror1022 They can still get dismembered like this when they are defeated tho.

​@@maeror1022just add more enemies or give them better accuracy

I’m not seeing it. I’ve rewound it 20x and watched at very slow playback speeds. What am I missing?

​@@AlBrownComedy I dunno what to tell you.

Tobey cit form nwh

"First time?"

The Dark Side of the force…

@@Auvas_DamaskMore like the power of merchandising.

Light-saber? It's Lightsaber.

Close to mid-range? I'd be over the horizon and still accelerating before the second body hit the floor.

Also the fact he has two stormtroopers firing at him from behind from about 10 feet away and they still miss. He is not even looking at them or blocking, I know they are supposed to have a bad aim but one of the shots should have landed by chance it would take more skill to miss.

Nah there storm troopers head on clashin some mas produced cattle prod with a lightsaber. Such trash logic

I feel like as soon as all the stormtroopers see their buddy get instantly vertically bisected by a laser sword they’d either be fucking petrified or outta there ASAP lol

How do you get the mod I don’t have the game but I’d buy it for this specific reason.

@@americandingos5190 I would buy just by this reason too!

Let's be fair here, a Jedi wouldn't really fight this way period. They would be using the Force on melee targets and reflecting blaster bolts back. They'd only fight like this against other lightsaber wielders. The Sith on the other hand absolutely would chop up a room and think nothing of it.

Yeah, just like Obi-Wan did when rescuing baby Leia, he only slightly touched stormtroopers with lightsaber without kiIIing them.

​@@sorrenblitz805I don't think reflecting a blaster bolt back into someone's face is significantly kinder than dissection via lightsaber.

Leaves a body for their friends/family to mourn, rather than a bag of diced and slightly chargrilled meat.@@ninjafruitchilled

The weaker the blow, the more painful it is. And in the video, the lightsaber battles, they didn't even have time to understand anything, but they already died.

Wood wands. Bruh I'm weak 😂

Shadow wizard money gang

Voodoo witchcraft dirty space alchemy.

kill one to warn a hundred.

Except for those republic troopers from swtor, they have to face sith warriors on many battles so they got ball of steel right xD

The Force Unleashed games always made me feel sorry for the stormtroopers lol.

Same here

@@lanceleader163too bad the lightsaber physics were like swinging around a glowing baseball bat

It's Star Wars not DOOM

@@tjk-goix8513 So it is doomed to be for little babies.

Like batman or shadow of war.

I think this mod has existed for a while

​@@Octononymous402 no, there is a different mod like this but in it you can only cut off limbs, check description of this video

​@@Octononymous402no there is only one that is in alpha and I believe this might be the full version yet to release

@@LANGIMATION oh ok. Bombastic had made a video using this mod so I had thought it was already a thing. (Dunno when the video was released)

@@Octononymous402 probably the same mod that's in alpha on Nexus mods or an early copy of this mod

You want long answer or short? It's gotta be "Family friendly" and ofc - it's under Disney now

@@Sharp47 Disney ruined Star Wars :(

Because it's a Disney franchise. It's for kids, and it was that way even before Disney.

@exiledhebrew1994 No they didn't. They saved it.

Lmao. Ok

“Star Wars is for 12 year olds.” - Man who invented Star Wars.

@@Mourtzouphlos240he’s wrong + they like dismemberment

Disney!!! The mouse has a problem with dismemberment

because it would make the rating go up which means "less sales"

They don't want people to associate their intellectual property with dismemberment, it's like having swearing in a TV show but adding bleeps & ***, I get it but I also don't like the mindset or the final product.

not if they dont show gore and guts.. I've seen movies that had blood and violence in them yet were only rated TV-14 lol. Seems movie ratings are weird.

The author of the mod, who's currently working on this, said that once it's fully fleshed out and ready to release for JFO - he will port it to Jedi Survivor too.

@@Sharp47 Nice. Thank you.

It is in survivor? Its called the purity perk and its in new game plus

@@ryanneale6501 it's clearly not in survivor as it's not even out for JFO. Purity perk in Survivor simply increases the damage done and taken. It has nothing to do with dynamic dismemberment system as shown in the video

@@ryanneale6501 That’s just „one hit“. I want to slice humans in half 😅

And Jedi Outcast too?

@@usinkangkongI don't know, maybe.

Imagine Ghost of Tsushima lethal difficulty where normal mobs can be 1 hit, elite 2 or 3 hit and the boss just take more dmg and on the receiving end you can die in a hit or 2

In the original iterations of this mod, ligthsaber duels were 1 hit both sides. Just like it would be in the original movies(if the attacker actually wished to kill and not maim like Count Dooku and Obi Wan).

I think it should be fair game if you get hit you die

I used to play JKA like this and while you have to save a lot lol, it is absolutely amazing. Every duel is crazy. Getting attacked from multiple assailants is crazy.

EZ, just don’t put any Sith bosses. There’s plenty of cool Star Wars enemies that can have unique attack options and thus add mechanics, like you can have a boss be a Mandalorian. If it were up to me, I’d make a game where you play as either an Old Republic Sith or an Inquisitor, therefore explaining why your character feels perfectly comfortable turning human beings into sushi. Then you make the enemies one-hit kill (but balancing that out with a fleshed-out parrying system).

You can thank Disney for that. What they've done to single player Star Wars content is pathetic.

@e5096 Like I know hey!! I just watched Halo Season 2 Episode 4 and (spoilers) there was a scene where John-117 (The Master Chief) was about to fight an alien (I think they are called elites) and one of the other aliens interfered and shot John-117 in the back!! The alien who wanted to have a fair fight with John-117 used a plasma blade of sorts and beheaded the alien who interfered and killed her / him / it!! With this scene there was so much detail that I took it back and watched it like 5 times!! I am not into gore or blood.. but.. this injury / wound was as close as we will ever get to seeing a real plasma weapon cause a fatal wound because there was burns, smoke and even like blood!! I think it is the most realistic scene we will ever have (there is more in the Halo TV Series on Paramount+ I might add) that like shows us what a real lightsaber wound would be like!! Sadly it was Halo that gave this to us and not Star Wars that under Disney seems to be afraid to show such things and they have turned lightsabers into glow sticks and tickle electro-sticks where even being stabbed with one only requires a few days in this hospital as it heals faster than a scratch from a kitten!! Find the scene I have mentioned in Halo and you will see what I am talking about.. someone cared about such things in that series!!

I think they would put droid for that kind of job 😅

It's not like they'd need to use DNA or anything, it's just a basic jigsaw puzzle. Cause of death would be fairly simple to figure out too. "Subject appears to have died from half his head falling off and rolling over to the three pieces of that other guy."

Imagine the same scenario, but they're Clone Troopers. lol

​@@Dandoskyballerthat would be tricky, but don't Clone Trooper have different features even if they are literally bred from one man that they share a basic template and features and the same voice but you know each one having his own unique look such as different hairstyles, some with facial hair, some with scars, some with unique mutations I.e the Bad Batch

​@@shaggybaggumsI feel sorry for that droid trying to figure out what piece goes where, it'll be an even harder task if someone turned them into cubes and those cubes were in different parts of the area. I feel terrible for laughing at that comment haha

Just pirate it, it's a singleplayer anyway

The science is that a normal dismemberment can be survived. But a cauterisation wound like this @ such intense temperature would cause a lot of unsurvivable complications leading to inevitable, eventual death.

Darth Maul: "I wouldn't know the feeling."

Thanks

would make the game boring

@@tewes_nah just tweak the difficulty

​@@SavageGameHawkstill wouldn't be difficult if everyone is one shot

​@@JGAMEOVR1 then make us die from one shot too, like in ghostrunner

I still would

They are orphans. They are without family or friends. There is nothing that can be done with them. They are better off dead. This is all for Padme.

Maybe he just stabbed them a bit so they exploded as their fluids boiled off. That's probably way worse now I think about it.

​@@ottovonbismarck8460you're are a simp like your favourite character before you

Yah, we still would. Nature is inherently violent, get over it weak boy

100%

Like someone said, what about bosses? Should you one hit them and they you?

@@testtestsson4927 or make those bosses super difficult to land a hit on so the combat is engaging.

@@Kaisaccountt having a boss one shot you with almost any attack would not be good gameplay. I like that a Star Wars game borrowed from souls ganes in terms of combat but it shouldn’t become it fully, and even those games have some amount of forgiveness, you’re not gonna get one shotted by 85% of the enemy’s move set

​​@@Kaisaccountt you could also take a page out of sekiro by having bosses entirely based around a stamina/posture bar. Instead of widdling down a health bar you widdle down their stamina/posture. It can be made to take just as long as getting a healthbar down and when you get it down their posture is broken and you deliver a killblow by finally breaking through their guard. They could also put a similar system on the player to avoid getting one shotted

Also, because then like, what the fuck is the challenge? It's also there to create and actually balanced gameplay experience. It's a video game, not a power trip.

​@@MatchstickManJedi Knight was challenging and you killed everyone with one hit. Thing is, enemies were powerful unlike in most games now.

@@MatchstickMan Why can't we have both? I play games to have fun and sometimes I just want to kerb-stomp a bunch of despairing goons who are in way over their heads. Plus, as the other person said, the game can be balanced around an incredibly lethal lightsaber by having the enemies a lot more motivated to avoid getting hit by it by flanking you, running away to get a better position, throwing shit at you that you don't just casually reflect into their face, and so on. In the Jedi Knight games you could only block bullets if you were facing the direction they came from (and only blasters, but not the disruptor that was also a sniper rifle) and the grenades and rockets could only be force pushed if you had really good timing. On the other hand, you had super jump and force speed to actually give you a chance against a room full of people uniquely motivated to keep firing until you looked like charcoal. Also you didn't actually have to use a lightsaber and could just shoot your enemies with the many guns you have or throw a grenade into the room, because Kyle Katarn (and whoever is in Jedi Academy) is a pragmatist instead of a doofus blinded by tradition who can't comprehend that times have changed and Jedi aren't just fancy cops anymore.

@Elriuhilu I mean. That's all well and good, and I was agreeing with you until you basically just said, make it Jedi Knight. At that point, just go play Jedi Knight. Which tbh I still do frequently. (Academy more so, because fuck Nar Shadda) but that's just it. They aren't trying to emulate that whole game. They're trying to emulate a Souls like obviously, of course you know this, but that pretty much would require lightsabers to not be super lethal like in lore because it's more about the swordplay of it. I don't mind the trade off because I already like the gameplay it offers and I like honing my ability at it. I won't disagree though that they could have both. Survivor actually does. It has a perk that's pretty much the Equalizer mode from Spider-Man where everyone goes down in one hit, but I think it makes them like. Super difficult. (Haven't actually used it yet.) And then it's just limited by the animations. Either way. Yeah, it'd be great to have both, but tbh, they shouldn't have to cater to every single different playstyle. They had intent, and they did it the way they did for a reason. And that doesn't make it less of a game. Or "lore shattering" as people like to exaggerate.

One hit kill weapons? Do you know who Lord Vader is?

Which is scary from perspective of the opponent who sees force user coming at him with that thing ignited

@@Sharp47 good point

Lightsabers are actually pretty heavy, if that’s still canonically correct. The difficulty in wielding a lightsaber is that the blade weighs nothing but the lightsaber itself is extremely heavy, so wielding one is significantly more dynamic than a sword or staff which are designed to be balanced.

I don't know where you got the idea of lightsaber hilts being "extremely heavy" but that is absolutely incorrect and never was stated in canon

@@Sharp47 took this from a quick google search. In old interviews, including an official behind-the-scenes video called “The Birth of the Lightsaber,” George Lucas makes it clear he conceived of lightsabers as being unwieldy and “heavy” for inexperienced users.

@@Sharp47 it’s also another reason why Rey being able to suddenly duel Kylo competently moments after holding a weapon she’s never seen before is extremely stupid. You needed to train specifically with a lightsaber so you didn’t cut your own limbs off or impale yourself.

@@Sharp47 Yeah, not the hilts being literally heavy. Rebels and The Mandalorian both had Sabine and Mando learning to use the darksaber and showed that when the user is inexperienced and hasn't connected with the lightsaber it feels heavy and sluggish, like it opposes their movements. But the original comment must be true for a skilled user, where the blade would feel very light

Indeed it is. Simply put - those modders are wizards. Hopefully once the this mod is fully released for JFO, the Author will also port it to Jedi Survivor.

That's what a lot of the difference in the combat forms boils down to: How aggressive you are with the Saber. The Sith tend to prefer the one that's "All Out Attack" and the Prequel Era Jedi preferred the "Blocking Blaster Bolts" one. Obi-Wan switched to a heavily-defensive Dueling Form after watching his master lose a lightsaber fight. Anakin favored the "Attack Only" form (the Sith favorite), which raised a few eyebrows.

I have always felt that the Sith wouldn't really use their swords very much except when forced to against other sword users ever since that bit in Return of the Jedi when the Emperor says "take your Jedi weapon" in a way that seems contemptuous. I reckon if they had to personally fight, Sith would use the Force to cause brutal injuries and make their enemies suffer to death as a terror tactic and would also mind rape their opponents into killing their friends instead of doing cool samurai stuff. I think they would rather try to manipulate events to cause their enemies to fail instead of allowing their enemies to actually face them and have a chance of winning. Why sword fight a superhuman with abilities almost as powerful as yours when you can make it difficult for them to get to you before they are exhausted by all the obstacles and suffering and minions they had to defeat to get close enough for you to gloat as you crush their hope and self image before killing them? On a related note, I much preferred the old explanation of why Sith had red swords: that the Jedi controlled all the natural crystal caves so the Sith were forced to use artificial crystals to build their lightsabers (if they even bothered to build one).

@@Elriuhilu Man, that was great, really enjoyed this

You mean like Jedi Academy multiplayer? The pinnacle Star Wars pvp experience that still hasn't been surpassed?

Check my Ahsoka video from yesterday. Also more are incoming.

Yes. A modded one