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When The Beatles and The Rolling Stones Wanted to Merge (1967) 

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@australianchartentries60sa35
Lennon and McCartney contributed backing vocals to the Stones' 1967 single “We Love You,” and Jagger returned the favor by attending the “All You Need Is Love” global satellite broadcast
@jonhillman871
@jonhillman871 Год назад
I like that they were trying to help underground bands get a leg up with quality recording studio time.
@davidellis5141
@davidellis5141 Год назад
The two could have had a great label & hired the best Producers for their acts. Taxes were so high in England that it probably prevented this venture.
@footballgeorgiebest
@footballgeorgiebest Год назад
Man o man I love this wonderful channel
@IMeMineWho
@IMeMineWho Год назад
Yes. And have you noticed that compared to a lot of other rock channels most of the time these guys actually offer new insights like this, get facts correct mostly and don't merely do the awful clickbaity "this band vs. that band thing?" And that the commenters are unusually civil? Its the gear!
@bipbopboom
@bipbopboom Год назад
If the Stones and Beatles merged today, they’d have a full band. Cheers Yesterday!!
@chrisbacos
@chrisbacos Год назад
They'd also be 1 percenters too.
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Год назад
Hahaha! True. Cheers, Jon.
@TheStinkusofYore
@TheStinkusofYore Год назад
The world needs this right now!
@IMeMineWho
@IMeMineWho Год назад
@@TheStinkusofYore But we don't need more one percenters. Maybe Bernie or Katie can pick up some maracas! Lol!
@tylerthompson1842
@tylerthompson1842 Год назад
Wow I never considered it but it would be interesting however they are too content on living off their back catalogues
@francoispedro3694
@francoispedro3694 Год назад
One step up with that one. Very well documented and illustrated. Bravo!
@ericblair54
@ericblair54 Год назад
1:22...Loved to see Mrs.Peel (Diana Rigg). R.I.P.
@damianoakes2592
@damianoakes2592 Год назад
Although this never came to fruition, the Rolling Stones did end up building a mobile recording studio, with a Helios console designed by Dick Swettenham (based on the ones he did for Olympic), that was used to record several famous albums, including Led Zeppelin III and IV, Who's Next by the Who, Penguin by Fleetwood Mac, and of course, Sticky Fingers and Exile on Main St., along with "Smoke on the Water" by Deep Purple and "No Woman, No Cry" by Bob Marley. The Beatles built Apple Studios, which was apparently a pretty nice studio once Geoff Emerick got done with it (he also installed a Helios console, funnily enough), but due to mismanagement on the business side it closed in 1975, and I think the most famous recordings done there, apart from Let It Be, were Stealers Wheel's "Stuck in the Middle with You" and parts of Harry Nilsson's Son of Schmilsson album.
@EdwinJack64
@EdwinJack64 Год назад
Nice info!
@phantompanther648
@phantompanther648 Год назад
Don't forget ( Bonnie Bramlett moment / Clapton slipping ' a note ' to George Harrison's ..... wife....🤮 . J a m e s T a y l o r🤮🤮)
@Krzyszczynski
@Krzyszczynski Год назад
If it had gone ahead, Allan Klein might have ended up owning the whole bloody train-set, Paul 'n' all.
@Pedgem
@Pedgem Год назад
Very good point. With Brian out of the picture the Beatles almost certainly would've just rolled with Klein if they merged. Who knows what wouldve happened then. Lots of screwing over im sure!
@stephendavis5530
@stephendavis5530 Год назад
A very mouth-watering venture. Their respective record companies probably made sure this was killed off though. The Beatles went on to form Apple a year later to realise their dream of recording new talent. It would have been great to see what this collaboration would have produced. Fascinating to learn that unheard tapes are lying around somewhere.
@mikeh3973
@mikeh3973 Год назад
@bigsky -- that is Klaus Voorman sitting between Mick and John. Close friend of the Beatles and bassist for Manfred Mann.
@hmrueggi6420
@hmrueggi6420 Год назад
... and designer/creator of the cover of "Revolver" ...
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Год назад
I think the guy sitting between Mick and John was photographer Michael Cooper.
@cronobactersakazakii5133
@cronobactersakazakii5133 Год назад
The background music sounds like a Beatles and Stones merge
@jerrywatt6813
@jerrywatt6813 Год назад
Interesting subject ' great show YP cheers from LA !
@rossgregor4817
@rossgregor4817 Год назад
What might have been The Beatles/ Stones business merger. Paul McCartney and Mick Jagger working on a project together with Marianne Faithful fantastic. Like you, where are the tapes?
@jean-marcknight8816
@jean-marcknight8816 Год назад
As a sort of Stones/Beatles merger, I still have that single "I wanna be your man" 😉
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Год назад
I love the Stones version of that song. 1963 punk rock.
@IMeMineWho
@IMeMineWho Год назад
@@YesterdaysPapers Me 3..lol. I like them both..they both rock!
@lindadote
@lindadote Год назад
Thanks YP. Your wonderful videos make for the ultimate start to this old music-lovers’ day! Interesting and informative as always.
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Год назад
Thanks, Linda.
@thelatepetercook
@thelatepetercook Год назад
I'm so thrilled to hear McCartney was/is an Incredible String Band fan. . . Fantastic episode!
@darda2449
@darda2449 Год назад
A magnificient, "What if?" From an era I lived through, rich in tantalizing, but sadly, usually unanswered questions...
@moondogaudiojones1146
@moondogaudiojones1146 Год назад
Excellent! I was not aware of this. Hopefully those tapes will see the light of day soon!
@familydogg1234
@familydogg1234 Год назад
Thank You! In Andrew Loog Olhams "2Stoned" - it's mentioned about Jagger producing Marriane Faithfull around May 1967- produced by Jagger. Nothing was ever released. I figured that OR it was a mistake. Note that " With a Little Help From My Friends" was released by THE BEATLES in June- one month after Marriane recorded it.
@familydogg1234
@familydogg1234 Год назад
I used to go to Lincoln Memorial Library NYC ( Yes - I'm American! Didn't see that coming- with a user name like mine.) I'd go thru year by year of NME ( " Enemy")on microfilm. Wonder if they still offer that. One can really get " Lost" in that world - the Good Old Days......
@dream-67
@dream-67 Год назад
I often think it a shame that Marianne never released a psychedelic album, as she was such a prominent figure during that period...
@IMeMineWho
@IMeMineWho Год назад
She did do a fabulous cover of Donovan's Sunny Googe Street which was pretty psychedelic!
@dream-67
@dream-67 Год назад
@@IMeMineWho yes and theres another Donovan cover on "Loveinamist" called "Young girl blues" which is very atmospheric
@IMeMineWho
@IMeMineWho Год назад
. I heard Don's version. That is so wild..I was thinking some great lady vocalist should cover that one and then you wrote that!
@thecaveofthedead
@thecaveofthedead Год назад
@@IMeMineWho Yeah. Sunny Goodge Street must be one of the very earliest songs that can legitimately be called psychedelic. Too much of the imagery is clearly psychedelic inspired for it to just seem that way. Marianne's cover is very lovely.
@discotecaradiociudad3983
@discotecaradiociudad3983 Год назад
yes....prominent figure and prominent boobs
@syater
@syater Год назад
Never heard a thing about this. I'm curious about those unreleased Marianne Faithfull tracks with songs from Incredible String Band, Beatles and Stones. Could be a nice breeze of folk-psyche from '67. On the other hand, there may be a good reason they have never ended up on a compilation after all this time.
@grokeffer6226
@grokeffer6226 Год назад
It's a shame that more didn't come out of this. There might have been even more truly great music from that era to enjoy today.
@neilfriedman
@neilfriedman Год назад
Both members of the Stones and Beatles appeared on each others records occasionally.
@SophieLovesSunsets
@SophieLovesSunsets Год назад
I love the sitar in your background music, YP 💖 This merge sounds like a great idea in theory, but I don't know, giving that The Beatles broke up just a few years later ... perhaps it's a good thing this business venture never went into fruition. I love The Beatles but they were at loggerheads by the end of the decade. The idea of them navigating business with another band seems problematic.
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Год назад
Thanks, Sophie. Glad you liked the background music. I agree, I don't think it would have worked out. Too many huge egos involved, it probably would have ended in disaster.
@SophieLovesSunsets
@SophieLovesSunsets Год назад
@@YesterdaysPapers 💯🙂
@64north20west
@64north20west Год назад
If Alan Klein worked with the Beatles and Stones in a positive light rather than as a hustler, he could have made a good name for himself in getting this type of concept to work. And he would probably have made more money for himself and the bands involved. SO close, yet so far away.
@willieluncheonette5843
@willieluncheonette5843 Год назад
Big thanks for this YP. All new to me.
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Год назад
Cheers, Willie!
@ericdailey8587
@ericdailey8587 Год назад
Obviously, this “merger” never happened, but it seems like this idea was the genesis for Apple.
@GCSoundArtifacts
@GCSoundArtifacts Год назад
Such an awesome video of great unearthed discovery!! I really wish that these recordings of Marianne Faithful would come into our ears someday... I love The Incredible String Band and their 2nd album is my very favorite of theirs. "Painting Box" is such a lovely song and I am picturing now it with Marianne's voice in my mind's ear...
@buzzawuzza3743
@buzzawuzza3743 Год назад
Your videos are MUST SEE!
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Год назад
Thanks!
@rachelsghost
@rachelsghost Год назад
Sounds like the genesis for Apple Corps brewing back in 67. Jonathan King... what a story that one is! Diana Rigg among a number of cameos here. 😊👍
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Год назад
Diana Rigg when she was still an "avenger", Timeless beauty.
@chasjohn57
@chasjohn57 Год назад
They never competed with each other
@MrChristopherMolloy
@MrChristopherMolloy Год назад
I'll tell you this, The Rolling Stone replaced Bill Wyman and Charlie Watts, and Paul McCartney plays bass and Ringo Starr plays drums. Just saying 🤔
@ThisBirdHasFlown
@ThisBirdHasFlown Год назад
0:29 that's a fantastic photo
@rockingbirdey
@rockingbirdey Год назад
It would've been really cool if they had collaborated on a full album together, with George Martin producing.
@mdteletom1288
@mdteletom1288 Год назад
I wouldn't want Martin producing. He glossed over everything with layers of strings and sound effects to the point where one can't even hear the band playing. The Stones could've used a better producer when they used strings or choirs (Moonlight Mile and You Can't Always Get What You Want) but I'd rather hear the instruments on their own. Beggars Banquet had a great sound to it with Jimmy Miller producing and Glyn Johns as engineer (who worked with both groups).
@chrisbacos
@chrisbacos Год назад
Damn, I thought the biggest news of October 1967 was my 7th birthday (ahaha). Well, the Stones need a rhythm section and the Beatles don't have guitar players so now would be a great time, especially with all the bands and singers on Spotify, RU-vid, etc.
@deirdre108
@deirdre108 Год назад
No! The biggest news of 10/67 was my 15th birthday!
@katbela3971
@katbela3971 Год назад
I would have loved to see the two bands together in a film. Although that never happened, we can still fantasize and, who knows: an imaginative screenwriter, with a good director, could still give us a satisfactory fiction of what could have happened. I loved this video. The Beatles and The Rolling Stones together in a project, what a dream! Thanks, Yesterday's Papers.😀🌹🤗
@389383
@389383 Год назад
A shoot em up Western. The Beatles in white hats and the Stones in black!
@mdteletom1288
@mdteletom1288 Год назад
Lennon and Richards, along with Clapton and Mitch Mitchell on drums played together on the Rock and Roll Circus show.
@steffanhoffmann8937
@steffanhoffmann8937 Год назад
Contrary to others here. Imo it wouldn't have worked. Too many egos; despite being friends by then. Thing is Andrew Loog Oldham worked for them did he not, prior to launching the antithesis of the Beatles. And anyway Lennon did work on Rock and Roll Circus, (I think) just about a year later. Great incidental music; yet again. Typifying the times.
@familydogg1234
@familydogg1234 Год назад
Let's not forget THE DIRTY MAC.
@garymallett6273
@garymallett6273 Год назад
It’s rumoured that Paul and Ringo will play bass and drums on the new Stones album
@thecaveofthedead
@thecaveofthedead Год назад
And then Mick found out about Magic Aleks...
@TheaterPup
@TheaterPup Год назад
At the very least, the Stones should have had a cameo in that Beatles cartoon show. ;D
@EdwinJack64
@EdwinJack64 Год назад
Very entertaining, this episode contains some new info for me! I like the opinion of Pete Townshend and Graham Nash. It would be good for the small promising bands to produce better records thanks to better equipment.
@IMeMineWho
@IMeMineWho Год назад
Oh I hope that YP can cover some of Roger's solo stuff or even better his acting! I guest vocal in Who tribs but Im afraid I only heard a couple of Rog's solo works and never saw Liztomania! I just never got round to it! That'd be a treat! (Subtle hint..lol). Or maybe something on Pete's writings!
@389383
@389383 Год назад
"Townshend, firm personal friend of the two groups..." He slagged the Beatles!
@the-np4mr
@the-np4mr Год назад
Interesting, I wonder if they were considering getting the rolling stones to go in on with them on apple corp
@jordan390a
@jordan390a Год назад
Listen to any of the original Stones record pressings and you'll understand why the Stones wanted better recording equipment...Parlophone, and EMI in general, Beatles pressings were much much better than the Stones on Decca....
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Год назад
A large percentage of Stones recordings from 1965/66 were recorded at RCA studios in Hollywood. I think "Aftermath" (especially the mono version) is one of the greatest sounding albums of that period.
@jordan390a
@jordan390a Год назад
@@YesterdaysPapers Yes, I agree about Aftermath...I have both the U.S. and EU first pressings and they stand out for audio quality over others from the same period...
@jeffclement2468
@jeffclement2468 Год назад
That got real interesting at the end there. Unreleased, un-bootlegged tracks from '67! The Stones have a history of hoarding their stuff. Movies too. There's never been an Anthology-type project with alternate takes released officially. There was that bonus disc of unreleased tracks that came with the "Exile" remaster...that was pretty cool. Btw, I don't understand how the Beatles never knew the truth about Allen Klein by this time. He had screwed (or was screwing) over the Stones. (?)
@389383
@389383 Год назад
In Alan Klein's grave?
@spiritof6663
@spiritof6663 Год назад
The Stones have released a number of outtakes from their 70s albums on various deluxe sets, not just "Exile" but "Sticky", "Some Girls", and "Goat's Head Soup" as well. Some of them sound quite good. Unfortunately, they do not have control over their 60s music and for whatever reason ABKCO doesn't want to release any demos or outtakes, so that's why we only get remastered versions of albums like "Aftermath", "Satanic" and "Beggars" with no extras.
@geoffmower8729
@geoffmower8729 Год назад
I remember one day the Beatles and Jerry and the pacemakers joined up together and called themselves The Beatmakers for the night.
@3lullabies
@3lullabies Год назад
Beatles were probably trying to lure Stones over to Apple Corps.
@conceptc4105
@conceptc4105 Год назад
It might of been a good idea to let new bands just do whatever without hassle of a label saying for it to be mainstream. But creative differences from Jagger and McCartney trying to help those bands wouldve gotten in the way.
@martakrupinska674
@martakrupinska674 Год назад
Thanks for this interesting video.
@DrLearyUSA
@DrLearyUSA Год назад
Either Beatle stones or Stoned Beatles
@anthonymclean9743
@anthonymclean9743 Год назад
Great videos by the way but bit off topic now , but is your voice narration done by a RU-vid voice generator as I've heard a similar voice on an advert ?
@josieann5031
@josieann5031 Год назад
I was wondering about the voice too. I've heard that voice on a couple of ads on RU-vid and was dissapointed that it's a bot. (Even so it's much better than a lot of the bot voices on most videos)
@robertcooney1938
@robertcooney1938 Год назад
This could have been cool for a few records. But the world needed both. The Dirty Mac happened though.
@qasanoba
@qasanoba Год назад
I wanna be your man, We Love You, You Know My Name (Look up the number), some Beatles-Stones moments....
@thewkovacs316
@thewkovacs316 Год назад
wouldve been as bad of an idea as was applecorp cant have the inmates running the asylum
@michaelwilson2340
@michaelwilson2340 Год назад
Watching this just proves that Paul was the weakest Beatle when it came to growing a mustache.
@IMeMineWho
@IMeMineWho Год назад
Ha!
@stdio44.32
@stdio44.32 Год назад
It sounds like a lot of the germinal ideas were carried over into Apple, the following year.
@ronrice1931
@ronrice1931 Год назад
Diana Rigg at 1:22, of The Avengers and later Game of Thrones fame. Cool!
@the-np4mr
@the-np4mr Год назад
I wonder if those Marianne faithful songs are shared among some ingroup of bootleggers in a sort of "if this gets out you'll be sleeping with the fishes" sort of way. I know some nirvana (the 90s band) bootleg that was treated like that got on RU-vid and I think the guy who posted it was excommunicated or something lol
@pat5882
@pat5882 Год назад
Well, there was the Dirty Mac. 2 of the 4: Lennon & Richards.
@lamper2
@lamper2 Год назад
Imagine Lennon singing or rewriting ALL SOLD OUT! Of course they did merge in a way on WE LOVE YOU. 1:53 Be aware in England the word "scheme" means simply "plan" and doesn't have that same dark connotation that it does here in the USA. 3:00 what group was Pete talking about? I suspect the "session" Paul was planning for Marianne had nothing to do with music!
@JFS3
@JFS3 Год назад
Alternate Sgt. Pepper drumhead hanging on Paul McCartney's wall at 1:02.
@Stahlflug_1
@Stahlflug_1 Год назад
Mother Earth...🌍
@BigSky1
@BigSky1 Год назад
At 1:02. Whose that sitting next to Mick in Johns dayroom at Weybridge?
@mickcarlon8147
@mickcarlon8147 Год назад
Mike McCartney?
@BigSky1
@BigSky1 Год назад
@@mickcarlon8147 Doesn’t look like him.
@BigSky1
@BigSky1 Год назад
@@mickcarlon8147 Looks more like Eric Burdon or Glyn Johns.
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Год назад
I think it was photographer Michael Cooper but I could be wrong.
@BigSky1
@BigSky1 Год назад
@@YesterdaysPapers Good call. You’re right. It would make sense as he was friends with all. Never seen that photo. It’s certainly not Paul’s brother.
@marrrtin
@marrrtin Год назад
And a missing session.
@ThisBirdHasFlown
@ThisBirdHasFlown Год назад
3:15 they published "bullshit" in the article? Even "bulls***"? I'm surprised.
@ericcrawford3453
@ericcrawford3453 Год назад
Cool!!!
@VinnieSausagePizzaHead69
@VinnieSausagePizzaHead69 Год назад
The beating stonles
@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777
@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 Год назад
@1:43 say that to Dandelion ,say Hi.. We Love You.
@pawelpap9
@pawelpap9 Год назад
I have a bootleg of The Rolling Beetle dated 1967. It’s OK, but doesn’t quite work. I think it was a mistake to put John on drums and Mick on violin.
@pardyhardly
@pardyhardly Год назад
Thinking Of Linking.
@IMeMineWho
@IMeMineWho Год назад
Ha! Great!
@SenorZorrozzz
@SenorZorrozzz Год назад
A joke…a laugh. A dream…. Not really considered at all.
@davidthompson6834
@davidthompson6834 Год назад
Jonathan king and Pete townshend good match
@mauroluiz420
@mauroluiz420 Год назад
Apple
@phantompanther648
@phantompanther648 Год назад
Source of Joe Cocker.....hit.
@johngranato2673
@johngranato2673 Год назад
Would have diluted the Beatles and helped the Stones. It was nonsense--and I was there.
@danieleyre8913
@danieleyre8913 Год назад
That would’ve been an absolute shit show.
@rafimahmudzain6057
@rafimahmudzain6057 Год назад
Beatles (McCartney & Ringo) x Stones (Jagger, Keef & Ronnie) = The Rolling Beatles
@rafimahmudzain6057
@rafimahmudzain6057 Год назад
John, George, Brian and Charlie was jam in heaven too
@389383
@389383 Год назад
@@rafimahmudzain6057 Who's on bass?
@caryheuchert
@caryheuchert Год назад
@@389383 Brian could play anything.
@pilarmartinez9753
@pilarmartinez9753 Год назад
The Beatles forever. 💖💜❤️♥️
@antebellumstage
@antebellumstage Год назад
The stones didn't start to make decent music till 69/70. I can't understand how the Beatles would even mention them.
@IMeMineWho
@IMeMineWho Год назад
I respectfully disagree. They were very decent covers of blues and early rock. Not Fade Away? Great cover. Ruby Tuesday? Fabulous. That's How Strong My Love Is? Jumping Jack Flash or anything from Beggars Banquet? Really? I heard the original of That's How Strong My Love Is yesterday and The Stones actually made that one better than the cover! But I think it may be like the Fabs. There are those of us who say No Jones, No Stones and those who think his best was with Mick Taylor or Ronnie.
@EdwinJack64
@EdwinJack64 Год назад
Hard Time Coming, your comment is very childish.
@antebellumstage
@antebellumstage Год назад
@@EdwinJack64 Listen to their music up to that point. It's really not that great. Maybe except for a few singels here and there. Their first actually good/decent album is Let it bleed in my opinion. Their previous albums are mainly just filler tracks. I've tried so hard to like their Music between 64-68. But I can't stand it, it's rubbish imo. I much more prefer the polished grandiose sound of certain Beatles and beach boys albums.
@EdwinJack64
@EdwinJack64 Год назад
@@antebellumstage Of course you may have your own opinion, no problem with that. But let's get to the point at hand. It's October 1967. Both the Beatles and the Stones were already top bands. They were friends, respected each other and liked each other's music. You may know the picture where John Lennon holds up a copy of 'Aftermath' from 1965. He thought it was a fine album and also liked the purple sleeve (UK version). Speaking of the Beach Boys, Brian Wilson attended the 1966 recording sessions of the 'Between the Buttons' album at RCA studios. He was heavily impressed with the song 'My Obsession'. This song is said to have inspired him to write 'Good Vibrations'. What I want to say is this: the Stones were making great music long before 1968 and this was recognized by Lennon and Wilson, among others. It is not surprising then that there was talk of a possible business collaboration, is it? That you find the Rolling Stones' music between 1964-1968 rubbish remains a personal opinion that I do not share at all. BTW, I also like the Beatles and the Beach Boys. And 'Let It Bleed' is certainly among the Stones' better albums! Cheers!
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