When Trudy Felt Replaced (The Proud Family) 😲😲😲 

I watch every analysis you've made from this cartoon, def keep making more videos!!

What I hate about these narratives is that it feels like it's punishing the mothers for wanting help and to not be the only one parenting an entire household, including their husbands. It comes across as a sort of "see this is why you should be grateful to be worked to death by your family and not having any identity outside of that, if you don't do ALL of this then you're useless and your family will replace you" kind of situation. I don't think it's intentional messaging a lot of the time (at least i hope not), I just think it's a product of the long history of treating women as nothing more than maids to their families.

I remember being a kid and thinking Oscar was so disrespectful for giving goo-goo eyes to Rene in front of Trudy.

Rene is the color she is because if you look closely she looks just like a younger Trudy but with brown eyes… it hits harder when the person that’s “ taking your place” looks just like you ❤

I feel bad for Rene. She was thrown out for doing her job too good. A three dimensional character would have recognized the pattern of her meeting new people, bonding quickly, and being tossed aside to be forgotten. But, that wasn't the point of the episode. And the writers never confirmed if Trudy had a right to be worried or Rene was just doing her job.

For once Trudy couldn’t be the perfect super mom of the series, while Renee pretty much fixed all the family’s problems. And I find that hilarious.

This episode bugged me as a kid and now as an adult I get why. Oscar is just infuriating this episode; his wife works a demanding (fulltime?) job, does all the housework/cooking, most of the child rearing, most of the emotional labor in their relationship, and it's just....ugh. And I get Trudy feeling "useless" when someone seemingly takes over her duties in the home, but I can't help think of how much women are told our value comes from fulfilling these roles. The episode ending with Trudy once again being burdened with all the responsibility was a downer for me. It should be Oscar feeling he needs to step up to the plate, not Trudy who does literally everything. 😐 Yet, the episode's resolution is....I'm not even sure. That Trudy shouldn't have tried to get outside help because it ended up making her feel less needed and so she should just suck it up and handle everything on her own? Side note, anyone know whether that woman at the end is supposed to be Renee or something? That was odd.

That storyline feels like its punishing trudy. Im learning, from this storyline, that if I get married and have a career, I wont manage the home, I cant ask husband for help. I'll hire another woman (because cleaning is a womans job) and my husband will be into her. I'll be forgotten by everyone and because I'm not doing wifely duties I'll feel hollow and sad

They were so messy for having all of the characters forget Trudy 💀💀

I would even open up the discussion even more to say it’s kind of sad that trudy feels fulfilled being a mule of the family. And the fact that she fell easily replaceable is shocking. And Oscar giving google eyes when he saw that young girl probably not only because she was beautiful and the parents but also he’s worn her level with him not having anything going on for herself like Trudy. Sheesh they were really teaching young girls to put up with anything back then. Makes sense why younger millennials and gen z are not putting up with the bull crap today when it comes to dating let alone creating a family.

This episode didn't work for me. Firstly they gave Trudy the 'Penny treatment' for no reason. Penny treatment is when the writers of this show just deliberately punish the main character when a new character is introduced who is portrayed as being perfect and popular by others. The grown up twins episode is a good example. It just doesn't make sense why the entire family would turn on Trudy when her actions and intentions as a loving mother hasn't changed at all. This show likes to promote the notion that two good people can't exist in one space at the same time, the cast of characters they either have to pick one side and automatically reject the other party. This mentality is messed up. Lastly when it comes to the babysitter character, they way they resolved the tension between her and Trudy was poorly executed, actually nothing was resolved between these two characters. The babysitter entered the picture, became an antagonist for Trudy and then she just disappeared without any interaction or confrontation with Trudy. It seems the Men In Black visited the Proud residents and wiped their memories because even the family don't address why the babysitter just vanished. The payoff in this episode just feels odd to me.

Ah yes the episode that says “women are only worth what they can provide so be grateful or you can be easily replaced” love that.

Oscar sucks my mom was a stay at home mom but my dad would cook on the weekends so my mom could have a couple days off oscar doesn’t do anything to help

Some episode of “Wife swap” back in the day where the child likes the replacement mum better than the actual mum and isn’t looking forward to her returning. Really heartbreaking if the child straight up feels like the babysitter is doing a better job than the mother.

on the topic of the relationship between children/ babysitters and children/ their own mothers: it´s not uncommon to see babysitters knowing the children better than the mothers. i´ve seen interviews about this and while it´s sad in a way, we have to remember that it´s not that much different than fathers being absent from their children´s upbringing because they´re the "bread winners". most moms who hire babysitters are well-off, but also have to work in order to finance such expenses, therefore being absent themselves. in regards to the episode, since i haven´t seen the original: why couldn´t Oskar or Sugar Mama help cleaning the mess? also, the thing about women "wanting to be in control of the household" is because for the longest time, historically speaking, that´s where they were cornered into. that was the one sphere of life where they held some semblance of control and men would hand it to them since that would solidify their position as housewives/ maids/ babysitters/ mothers and reinforce the status quo.

I know a woman who used to babysit for a family for a while. Fast forward a year, she is married to the father of the house. Several months after that, she’s having that child’s sister. 👀 I remember watching this episode as a kid, and thinking that it was entertaining, but didn’t strike me as being realistic. Now that I’m older, I totally see how that situation is drawn from real life!

In my family it was a bit opposite. On one side, my immigrant side of the family my great grandmother was the head of the household and her husband just kinda went to work. The black side, my great grandmother ran the household too. By the time I came around, the men in my family were the ones trying to stay “useful”. They wouldn’t let any women lift anything even if it wasn’t heavy. They did all the yard work, despite my grandmother being a gardener and getting angry over it. You would think, “oh men be like that”. But it was so extreme my 80 year old grandfather wouldn’t let me lift an air conditioner (I was 20 years old and can lift my 90 lbs dog). It got really annoying since they would fight over who gets to cook the meat, even though the women cooked everything else. 😂

I agree, there definitely seems to be a pattern with the way light skinned vs dark skinned black women are portrayed in this show...

Kiwi is too precious for this world. 💛 Women can sometimes view other women as competition, unfortunately. I feel bad for Renee.

This has to be the most “sitcom” feeling episode of the entire series lol

Great video bro. I feel like the main point of this episode was to drive home the point of how detrimental it is when you make motherhood and being a wife your whole identity. Trudy doesn't have an actual identity and the roles that she play she equates her value to how she can serve other people so thats why when the babysitter came she felt like she was being replaced and no longer serving a purpose. I think it is so important for women to have a life outside of their kids and husbands you need to fulfill yourself on a individual basis outside of the role you play because if Trudy had done that it would have been easier for her to delegate to someone else without feeling like they was replacing her.

I always hated even as a kid and preteen- how they portrayed men constantly desiring women that they weren’t with, in front of their wives and behind their backs so casually.

I remember The Addams Family Values subverted this trope. It was kind of the reverse situation

Hell, Peggy Hill felt like Bobby was replacing her because he started cooking. She stole the Thanksgiving turkey just because she felt like Bobby was replacing.

Yea, something that I deal IRL with my roommate(he's also my bro), is that every night he keeps asking me what dinner did I make(because we're the same age, he should put two and two together that he can feed himself, let alone he doesn't see the connection, that when he doesn't drive down to the dump, then the trash is just gonna fill-up the house)

It’s not as good as a message as I would think the writers trying to portray. In fact, it reminds me of that one power puff girl episode where a Bubble, Blossom and Buttercup basically want to take a vacation from protecting the city of Townsville, only for them to leap into the future that shows that them abandoning their posts, will ultimately bring forth the downfall of their homeland, as a well as the hatred,abandonment, cognitive decline of their loved ones. The message would be to me if you do not maintain the status quo no matter how much you want to take a break for your mental health everything that will happen as a result of you not staying where you are in life right now will absolutely be your fault and there’s nothing you can do about it. I would call that learned helplessness, catastrophing, an all-or-nothing mindset, and the feeling that you are trapped in your current situation, which, if not treated could lead to a depression . This isn’t just a bad message. It’s medically dangerous, and it promotes a maladaptive sense of selflessness to the point we’re taking care of yourself can make you think you are being selfish. Only being known for upholding the expectations you’ve established and literally nothing else is a bleak way to live.

Trudy once rooted against Oscar with Suga Mama as his college basketball game against Wizard Kelly. Plus, she lets Suga Mama abuse Oscar regularly.

This is a perfect example of what made the idea of DINK/childfree lifestyles so appealing to me as an adult. I saw lots of shows that had the "mom" character have to handle everything and then it was shown as something she "preferred" as opposed to what she had to do. What on earth were the writers thinking? What younger person is going to look at a future of cleaning, cooking, working full time, and raising kids while the husband/spouse doesn't help much, if at all and say, "yep, that's what I want to do as an adult" instead of finding something a little closer to equal in their relationships? Some shows portrayed single mothers who did it all (think as told by ginger, Llyod in space) and others showed this extreme where she chooses to have to do the brunt of the work. Both of my parents worked together to raise us, and it (parenting) still looked like a terrible job to sign up for in reality.

I’ve experienced it. However, I was the child and the babysitter was my oldest sister. My mom was and still is always working so we usually saw her at night or during the weekends. Because of that, my brother and I spend alot more time with our sister because she was more available. My mom quotes this to this day. When my sister was about to go to college, my brother and I were crying and screaming “ WHO’S GOING TO TAKE CARE OF US ??!!!!!!!! “ right in front of our mom . We were like 7 and 5 so we didn’t understand how rude that was 🤣🤣🤣! But yeah I feel more connected more with my grandparents and older sister than my parents.. My mom did her best though!! She always provided And supports my dreams, she just didn’t have much time to be there

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This episode made me feel bad for Trudy. Perfection will make you feel like you're useless when in reality you're not.

I love your analysis of all these episodes, and how you truly deep dive into the characters archetype and how it affects the characters. (Also, your cat is so cute in every video.💗)

I think Kiwi was in this video longer than other video prior 😂

I honestly hope you end up reviewing every episode I love hearing what you got to say about this cartoon series. Critical but fair. I appreciates that about you

This episode was really bizarre, even compared to the misses of other episodes in the series. First time I watched it to the end and thought "... is that it?" Like it wasn't supposed to finish yet.

I've been rewatching this show recently and I adore it But I also adore your videos You're one of the you tubers that doesn't just say "this sucks" when Criticizing I hope to see a video on Duke Anoi some day

I agree that it felt like they were punishing Trudy for having a career. It was jarring, since the writers seemed to be more liberal in other episodes (I suppose it could be a case of it being written by several people with different opinions). It felt like they were trying to say "you can't do both"/"it's difficult to have two competing identities", but it came off as " if you don't try to do both you are less than". Maybe it would have been better tackled split into two episodes. One episode for the set up and a second to deal with the complex situation and emotions. If the family had taken her emotions seriouly then I think it woudn't leave such a bad taste in my mouth.

One thing I have been thinking about when looking back on the original series is that when I was watching it as a little kid, I fully thought that Trudy was white and that the Proud family/Penny was mixed race. I don't know if that's an example of the colorism the within the show itself or what. I'm not really sure how to put my thoughts about this into words, but I am curious if that is something that is worth having a conversation about

I was a nanny for a total of 7 years in my life. I was actually upset at how often the parents /wanted/ me to take it all over. I got into fights towards the end of that career when my final two kids were treating me like their mother. Like...I dunno, if their mom and dad had put in the effort they had actually believed they were putting in, it never would have happened. I still talk to those parents four years later, and their kids lock themselves away in their rooms all day now. :( it's sad.

Keep on making proud family content! I've been watching them on my way to work, and always look forward to them.

Even tbo I'm not your prime demographic I enjoy you Tony and the fact you open the door to all.these topics of conversation about real soical problems.I think it's necessary for use to grow as people and a community to do self reflection.

I remember my mom asking me as a kid what I thought the moral was for this episode and I said "don't take your mother for granted." My mom was amused by that but she didn't really confirm or deny it. I felt so confused by that but haven't seen the episode since. I'm so glad I finally have my answer. I learned today that child-me did not get the message, lol

I was all like "Man I have not seen a Tony video for a while. Did he take a break or something?". My dumba** thought I subscribed. I did not. Luckily I remembered the name of the channel so I could check to see if there was videos I missed and saw I was not subscribed. Fixed it!

I love proud family but there is so many shows that have the women with lighter skin. Penny's boyfriend has darker skin too.

How Trudy did Oscar when Penney became a popstar is her karma with the Renee situation.

The lesson is if you hire extra help with chores around the house, make sure they know their place and remind them who the matriarchy of the house is. These aren't your kids! You're here to scrub toilets so I have more time for my family!

I’m trying to be good but Trudy’s little blue number is about to make me act up

Good discussion

Where was Rene when Trudy and Oscar leave the twins on penny

Kiwi😊

That my mother 👍

What I noticed about this episode is Renee was fired because she was pretty and intelligent. Even in the show Martin he hired twin maids who were tall, thin and pretty. As soon as Gina saw them and opened her mouth the ladies said they know the drill. The men hire us AND THE WOMEN FIRE US. And with me personally I've been let go from jobs because I'm a threat. Attractive, independent and intelligent under ugly Betty's like Zoe. The karens in management that need trolls under them to feel sufficent. Monica Bellucci film Malena speaks about this more. The only unrealistic thing is Renee was a wealthy trust fund baby. Thats not the collective's situation.

Trudy learned not to take her position and her family for granted. I'm looking at you Tia Mowry!

This episode had problems, but I still think it was MUCH better than the hellhole known as "Twins to Tweens", since the characters aren't actively malicious toward Trudy, just oblivious and inconsiderate toward her, whereas in "Twins to Tweens", everyone suddenly just became a bunch of LaCienegas and actively hated Penny (heck even LACIENEGA isn't usually THAT cruel).

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I did NOT like this story, and I hate these stories! I was a kid that had nannies or cleaning ladies because my parents had the money and my mom had severe health issues. My dad never gave her shit for needing help. Hell, my dad was the one that made dinner! You know who DID give her shit about it? The other neighborhood moms! They’d be like “Well, we can’t ALL have the help!” And treated my mom like she was lazy for needing it! Women shouldn’t get shit like that for needing help taking care of the family! You never know another person’s story! Plus, it has severely sexist undertones. It’s treating women like their only GOOD as a wife and mother if they can take care of the family and house! I think the story should have ended with Oscar comforting Trudy, and letting her know that they are all this there for her! I think they should have played back all that the housekeeper/nanny did and made it CLEAR that this was an insecurity of Trudy’s and not a justified fear! Then it could have been a story about how there’s nothing wrong getting help when you need it! They even could have ended the episode with the whole family plus the nanny throwing an appreciation party for Trudy! Or just cut the nanny’s hours. SOMETHING different than this! I never felt like the nanny or cleaning ladies that my parents hired replaced my mom. Not one bit! I was just happy that she had more energy to be with us! And happy that I had more adults in my life that I could trust! And I just wish there were more plots that encouraged women to get an extra help if they need it instead of punishing them!

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