when you think you're a sith lord, but... 

Darth Biceps

His arms are bigger than Ki Adi Mundi's forhead

Clearly he has become so muscular he can no longer reach that spot between his shoulder blades where the torch was

Plot armor wasn't doing its job before with the other Jedi, so it has to step in at the last minute lol.

Dark souls logic. You can beat literal gods but also die to basic rats

7 Jedi < Sith dude < Random Bugs

The Empire was defeated by a bunch of teddy bears. Jar Jar Binks clumsily took out a tank. This is on par with Star Wars

Only dude can save the show now

Dude probably was just worn down from all of the intense fighting throughout the episode and was no longer performing at his best ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

There was a large swarm of bugs. It makes sense. When people talk about power dynamics they don’t make sense. Especially since he did kill the bugs that took him.

He turned 2 jedis into a shish kebab

To be fair, the bugs dont follow Power Rangers foot soldier rules when fighting

İts the helmet. İts his precious. His plot armor.

Ok but to be fair for a second he probably felt really badass in that helmet, like honestly I feel the same when wearing my coat and ski mask in the winter Gives extra endurance points or something xD

Plot armor disappeared for a second

To Disney this makes sense somehow.

Pretty sure it's an old SW/Lucas trope that at some point the "Big Bad" faces a setback due to "nature" or the "Underdog" ... Think Ewoks against Imperial forces on Endor! Goofy? Yes, But does it keep the story moving? Yes again!

OSHA defeated a saber user without using a weapon… ;)

He's trained to kill Jedi. He knows all their moves and tactics. He's likely not familiar with the bugs at all. Plus, they caught him completely off-guard and surrounded him from all sides. The reason he was able to Force push all the Jedi away was because he anticipated them and he had time to charge up his Force push. He didn't anticipate the swarm.

“A sItH l0rD?!!?!!”

Well to be fair dooku got captured by a bunch pirates and he couldve zapped them all if wanted to

Him head bashing a fucking lightsaber was hot LOL

An in universe explanation....the bugs had the high ground 😂

You have to remember, Qimir wasn't preparred for a bunch of bugs to attack him, and he wasn't defeated by them, only delayed enough, for the others to escape.

He definitely underutilized the force in this battle, almost like he doesn't know a lot. But, it could also be possible that he was using his force energy to increase his speed, strength, and stamina in this battle, so who knows.

The bugs don't defeated him. Have you ever heard of fatigue? Just because someone is a "Sith" (even though he didn't call himself a Sith) doesn't mean he's invincible. He used a helmet and forearm guards against the Jedi. Anyway, Sol beat him in the end. The power of a Sith is not infinite, only Palpatine believed so, but he was on another level. The bugs only held him up for a little while. Anyway, the series is not famous for its good script.

To quote Robot Chicken, “What a twist!”

Best character in the show

when I saw the bugs grab him the first thing I thought was “Disney ass death”

Quimir actually was not defeated by the bugs as we see him a little later and he is ok.

Like a soldier being taken out by Care Bears.

In the writers room over the door it says "...so the story can happen"

It’s a bit rich, but noice 👌

Darth Malgus defeat requirements: An army of soldiers, A jedi grand master all fighting as hard as they can and they just barely survive.(alderaan cinematic) Disney sith defeat requirements: large moth.

It was the helmet that gave him power

If you played Fallen Order, you'd know that giant bugs are not to be trifled with.

To be fair, surprise is everything; Palpatine sure as hell would have been able to blitz a wounded ROTJ Vader if he didn't get the jump on him

I don't agree with this opinion whatsoever. Fighting another person is at least predictable. You ever have a big ass bug fly near your ear? For something so small, it's SO loud and disorienting. It triggers an immediate panic reaction in us to get this thing as far away from our ears/faces as possible. Now imagine that, but now the bugs are almost as large as you are. As soon as they started swarming in on him, he would have been deafened to anything other than the flapping of those gigantic wings, not to mention some of the wings likely smacking him in the face, not to mention the bugs's actual legs grabbing him, maybe some biting him. The dude was immediately overwhelmed by an influx of sensory distractions from every angle, and there were enough of these bugs to immediately replace any he could kill. Does it look a little bit goofy having a sith guy get carried away by bugs? Yeah sure. Is it hard to believe? I don't think so?

It's super consistent with what the show is exploring though, he says himself "steel and lasers are no threat to a jedi" and Mae is unable to defeat any jedi without a weapon, so it's not implausible that he falls prey to an OSHA VIOLATION!

Clearly, the umbramoths were dark-siders, too, and better trained.

Good logic

may be the bugs were force users too...

Here is why: "Now at this point, wouldn't be cool if she puts a light on his back and the bugs swoop in and take him away?!!" "Yeah that would be totally awesome!!!" Zero deep thought went into this show.

He got the Kang treatment

He didn't die by the bugs we saw him survive at the end but yeah he should have escaped the bugs lol

its probably because he was just defeated and too tired to use the force

He killed all the bugs??? They had him, for a moment. I fail to see the cherry-picking reason here

Darth revan and other sith would say: You're not worthy to become one of the sith order

One the fans call him Darth Teeth, but I call him Darth Sharptooth and also I call him The Copycat Of Sith Stalker aka Darth Starkiller!

Well, I'd say it's because he knows the moves of the Jedi; Studied them so he could have the upper hand at all times, but with the giant bugs it was more difficult because they are wild creatures and can be seen as unpredictable. You could make the argument that he could've used the force to detect them like Osha could but that would be reading into it too much 😂

As skilled as he was, fighting 7 Jedi aggressively for an extended period of time would likely take a toll on anyone's stamina. If he was at peak fighting capacity, the bugs probably won't last more than a few seconds. Though on a surface level, it does seem stupid that some natural forest bugs can give trouble to a Dark Side user, unless there's some OP lore behind the bugs

You forgot HOW he beat all those Jedi, he has a special force power to get into their heads, as Yord mentioned. The bugs minds were obviously too primitive or too alien for him to enter so he couldn't make them hesitate or mess up. I'll wager if he can be denied the power to get into his opponent's head he wont be so badass with the blade.

It’s a why for the Jedi to get away remember there is plot armor

We also know how he might die already with all the emphasis on Mae and her trying to get the Jedi's lightsaber in each fight. I think that might be how they take him down.

he should've been swarmed and distracted. not carried away lol.

I mean, he faked his lose to get Osha, so....

I actually find the acolyte more than most people, but I find it really weird that Osha tells Sol to not kill Qimir, and then she straps a light to him, with the intent to kill him

Bro was buggin out😂

no sith lord is stronger than the plot

It’s a piece of plot armor

Oh, come on. Star Wars has always been goofy like that

Still this makes more sense than Darth Vader vs Rocks

Everything as the force wills it lol😂

If he can't use Force Lightning he's not a Sith, he's just a wannabe Sith.

People see a halfway passable lightsaber fight and really want to act like they were blown away. 😑

Honestly I can see this happening on a game or something. People downplay the threat as they are “moths” or what have you, but they are *big* and can probably bite your head off

If have again the feeling, that this show could have had so much potential like all the others before...

Sheer numbers and hyperspecialization. There's not a whole lot you can do in a mosh pit where the guys grabbing at you have no sense of self preservation. Cut down as many as you want, they're gonna get their hands on you eventually. Which was exactly what happened here - Qimir cut his way loose with enough time but he had to work through every bug that came, not just the ones "brave enough to step forward". Compare with the Jedi where he was clearly using Dun Moch to disrupt their connection to the Force mid fight. It left them basically drunk in their movements, disrupted in a way they didn't expect or know how to deal with and unable to effectively coordinate. Was also the difference between Jecki and Sol's coordination later when they knew how to combat that. The Sith are VERY good at fighting Jedi - especially unprepared Jedi - but they're going to struggle against certain other things. Sheer numbers have always been effective against all but the most absurdly powerful of Force users (Vader, Revan, Palpatine being among the handful of exceptions) and it was the entire idea behind why Order 66 was so effective, even against the handful of Jedi who sensed it coming.

Assaj ventress called herself a sith in 2003 clonewars only for dooku to torture her and humiliate her. Non sith call themselves sith all the time.

Could be he was a little surprised and disgusted by those bugs and didn't want to touch them at first but instinct kicked in and he decided to concentrate on them. He might be what we would call Sith but he's still humanoid and might have a fear of bugs🤔and they were swarming pretty good.

What do you expect from SPACE WITCH writers?

Me in Jedi survivor when I’m out of stims

Logic is not something the acolyte deals with often but they did explain that. He could get into the Jedis' minds. Their movements were predictable to him. The bugs are not. It took him by surprise. Also it's normal. Imagine you are the greatest kungfu master in the world. You are standing across from your arch rival and ready to fight him in a battle for the ages. You start approaching him... getting in his head... Going to counter every move... Round house kick him in the face... Suddenly your pants are filled with a horde of 30 angry hamsters!!!! Atleast for the next 20 seconds that Kung Fu grand master is just another dude with hamsters down his pants. They all react the same way. No kungfu is gonna even come to your mind.

How did a bunch of Clones manage to kill Jedi during Order 66 despite them being aber to block blastershots and having faster reflexes and foresight? Overwheming force and constant pressure. The guy can't cover himself completely in a 360° angle all the time and he had the flashlight attached to him while also waving a giant glowstick trying to fight them off, both of which attracted even more of the bugs directly towards him (and remembering the scene from the episode before, there were a LOT of bugs sticking to those trees). Plus... evil tyrants with overwhelming power being defeated by primitive species or forces of nature is pretty on-brand for Star Wars.

Don't forget he had more trouble with the Padawan than the all other Jedi.

Jason is the Sith Lord?!

I think the answer to who this Qimir is lies in the opening intro where it says something like, "they risk exposing everything in the name of revenge". I think the real master is gonna beat Qimirs @$$ for almost exposing the sith

At least when he stabbed a Jedi, he stabbed them in a vital area, not in the side of the abdomen where there’s a higher survival rate

Same things as Kang in ant man

i think he just got overwelmed by all of them beacause when he was fighting the jedi it was only 1 or 2 at the same time not like 10 bugs

This complaint seems a bit too nitpicky for my tastes. Like yeah, it’s a bit weird but come on. It’s nothing crazy.

ya fighting 7 jedis for several minutes doesnt do anything to stamina, and there are plenty of creatures that are force resistant.

What bugs me the most is the fact that they exploited that rule that forbids turning on and off your lightsaber during a duel, a move he was forced to use against a single padawan after wiping out an entire group of jedi

Why did I think that was Ezra Miller in the thumbnail 💀

this shit happens all the time in star wars who cares😂

Sol is a better fighter than him, which means that there has to be a more powerful person (Tenebrous, Plagueis, Venamis) that will kill him, so that the mystery of the Sith is never truly confirmed.

Dude Jar Jar exists, and you're telling me this is goofy? The show has a lot of probelms, but people are complaining about the wrong things

well, i'm sure he's more accustomed to fighting humans than oversized insects

Yeah, kind of seems familiar like ROTJ like Stormtroopers that are trained by the Empire get defeated by teddy bears. I mean ewoks. I mean come on rocks and Spears. They might as well be crushing them with hopes😅

Yeah, but most of those Jedi didn’t have names, so they count as real threats. You have to be a main cast member to last more than 3 seconds in a fight.

Ohhhhh Dip!

It's so obvious duh. He got a 200% debuff when he lost the mask.

I'm curious if he's in anyway connected to Darth Plagus. He seems like a BadAss Sith lord

Anakin was defeated by droids asembly line on geonosis

How did Maul lose to a Padawan when he had the high ground? How did Obi-Wan beat Anakin but get wrecked by Dooku when he had help with Anakin, who beat him? How did a bunch of teddy bears beat the galactic super power? How did Vader let Luke who wasn't even at padawan level cut his shoulder? Answer, power levels are BS and basing whether or not someone can beat someone just based off feats rarely works. On paper, no Jedi should lose to a buch of clone troopers but the context that they were ambushed makes all the difference.

Am I the only one who was annoyed that the second most capable fighter of the jedis was the teen padawan?

Because, writing.

The only good episode

Darth Quir

It's Kang in Antman