Where Are the Diverse Villains? 

Yes, I know his name is Michael B. Jordan. That's what was in my script, but my mouth said Jordan B. White. Oh well... Y'all knew what I meant.

Imagine Black Lex Luther. Superman goes to jail for hate crime, nuff said.

The term "reverse racism" in itself is an error. Racism is RACISM is racism.

Yes, Killmonger's origin is sympathetic. But his actions are irredeemable. When Ross refers to his service record as him "Racking up confirmed kills like it was a video game", we basically learn he kills without remorse or conscience, with those scars on his body being a badge of pride rather than a show of remorse. But the left can't see that, they see those scars as a solemn reminder of his purpose or something, but it's meant to be like he saw soldiers painting tally marks on their helmets or equipment to show confirmed kills and going "Hold my beer". He's _proud_ of all the lives he's taken, not remorseful.

It's sad because imagination is necessary for empathy. I remember watching a video of J.K. Rowling giving a speech for a University years ago, she was talking how imagination is the power to put yourself in someone else's shoes. And that's what the far-left can't do. That's why you know it's all an act. And that's the kind of people who are hired to write our freaking comicbooks!

👏 Magneto has the best backstory in all of comics 👏

Damn man. You don't just lay out points, you do it 100x more eloquently than I ever could and back it up with relevant context in depth. You're good at this, keep it up.

Uh no, Killmonger wasnt seen as misunderstood at all, he was seen as an crazy murderer filled with hate tthat had to be stopped. Almost exact words from the movie. What made him a protagonist was what he was fighting for.

Diversity is dumb, people need real opportunities

I have experienced bigotry before. As a Russian bot, a Journo reported me just because I was just doing what I was programed for.😢 #Russianbotvillains

When I mentioned on YT how racist I felt Black Panther-the movie, not the the character- I was told I was wrong and a crybaby. I'm glad to find out I'm not a crybaby and not crazy.

"What can men do against such reckless hate?" -Theoden

That's so crazy! Like China not wanting the Mandarin to be portrayed as Chinese, despite him having genius intellect and great skills. I, for one, love playing villains, and I think that (leaving out the evil part) they can have a lot of great qualities, like strength, intelligence, looks, etcetera. And I do enjoy the complex, not-so-evil-after-all villains, but I also want to have some evil-just-because-they-like-it villains, too. Some people simply are evil, and they can be very interesting and fun to portray and watch.

You hit the nail on the head. The greatest villains are heroes of their own story, whether they're admirable in their own way or absolute monsters. These "writers" cannot fathom the idea of people they consider to be evil or villains possibly having any sort of rationale or logical (if not reasonable) viewpoint. Apply that narrow worldview through their filter of identity politics, and you get heroes that are stereotypes of the group they represent, and the same two or three villains, mixed in with "anti"villains that are meant to say "see? we're NOT extremists, this is an extremist (even though we would totally do that given the chance)."

"Where Are the Diverse Villains? " Come on my guy you've been reading the Ignited comic. But for serious as a White writer i'll probably never write a POC that isn't of a fantasy race (Elf, Dwarf, etc), not because i don't think i couldn't do it and do it well but due to the fear of being labeled a racist or a bigot by idiots no matter how well written said villain is, because a white dude made a POC a Villain.

When society loses morality no one is really a villain.

How the hell did it take me so long to find a channel like you? This is AWESOME!

"Please and thank you". Shit, that cocogoat line. I need to drop some cash now

2:23 "Uhh, Jason? Are you ok, man?"

They try to turn Killmonger into an antihero, but he murdered those museum workers in cold blood, including a tour guide that was no threat to him, while blaming them for stealing those things 200 years back. If he was an anti hero, he would’ve just taken those things when the place was closed.

My friend said that this also boils down to these types of people not wanting any real conflict. They emotionally can’t handle it. Pathetic.

I've written and created many characters over the years. The most evil and despicable characters were characters that I created by tapping into my own evil nature and crafting them from that nature. Granted, there were other people in my life that I used as reference, but inevitably the most evil characteristics in all of my evil characters came from my own evil nature. I think that's what a conscientious writer actually does.....actually, a conscientious HUMAN would do that. Nobody is "beyond" evil. Nobody.

Magneto and Dr. Doom aren't true villians. They are anti-villians, the inversion of the anti-hero. Anti-heros do the right thing out of self interest. Anti-villians do horrible things, but their desires are noble. Magneto originally is trying to protect persecuted people. Dr. Doom becomes dictator of his home country because they are too backwards to desire social advancement into a modern world without strong-arm laws. Both of them are fair and even generous with those who assist them in their goals, but deal with opposition in brutal impunity. I remember several story archs where Spider-Man talks down Dr. Doom from commenting terrorism by bringing up how badly it would reflect on his nation if he proceeded with the action. The Joker however is a true villian. He has no noble objectives, just likes to see chaos. It abusive to all his underlings, not just Harley Quinn, and has no remorse when someone who he'd been working with dies. As for diversity...if we look into history we see that the most successful villians are highly capable individuals who normally come from some sort of highly repressed backgrounds. But instead of gaining a solid work ethic from overcoming their own past they aquire a MASSIVE chip on their shoulders. And then choose to plot a way to settle their grudge with the world. Really if you want to make any hero seem heroic you have to give them an impressive villian to combat, the more well written the villians then the more impressive the heroics.

Back in the 90s I remember an interview with a black rapper (sorry can't remember name) who was playing a villain in a movie (sorry can't remember name lol). He said it was a lot more fun to play the villain because they were more interesting and exciting.

Woah kudos to you for bringing this up 6:58

Saskue is a good villain, he's not only menacing but you go "oh, that could be me"

This video was honestly brilliant. Kudos, young man.

I have been studying the early twentieth century and I have come to learn a lot about some of the big villains of history. I learned that Hitler's hatred of the Jews was not specific to himself, that he lost all of his friends during the war, was hopitslised by mustard gas, had a horrible childhood, lost his mother when he was little, refused the use of chemical weapons, was a tea tottaler, a vegetarian, was radicalised by socialist professors in Austria and had a crush on a young Jewish girl as a boy. I am not defending his horrible actions, but I think it is useful to know more about people (even the ones you hate) and not chalk it up to being evil for the sake of being evil. It paints a startling picture of a depressed and angry man who plunged the world into horrible pain. The potential lies in every person for good or I'll, and to think otherwise is dangerously naive. Good video by the way. Keep it going.

Something else I've noticed is that despite the fact you can make anything you want in a comicbook, I don't know any minority characters who are rich millionaires whose wealth ISN'T a result of crime based activities. And before you say Black Panther, his wealth was inherited via a monarchy so that doesn't count in my opinion.

What's sad is if they actually could think creatively, I wouldn't mind seeing a character struggle with the idea that they can't believe they're capable of doing wrong within self reflection. To finally break out of their ideal bubble and to realize that they can be wrong for pushing forth something they never gave that much thought into. Understanding the inhumane injustice they have caused by finally seeing the monster before them, the one they imagined inside their mind, was actually a decent human being that they caused to end up in such a state. However I think that takes at least some care or the will to want to try. These people are so busy pushing their agenda that I don't ever see room for care or thought.

Remember the villian is always the hero in thier own story

Killmonger can play the victim and say he is disenfranchised, yet he went from an orphan to a man who graduated from MIT and joined the special forces. Their are very few nations on Earth where one can do that, but America is one of them.

I've been screaming this for a while. Why haven't we seen another Dr. Kananga (James Bond, Live or Let Die). I want to see a world conquering monster of a Black Man. The closest we got was Jeffrey Wright's character of Dr. Valentin Narcisse in Boardwalk Empire.

The same reason all the popular heroes are white, that's the only type of character they made back then when creating heroes and villains, and then they ended up being the popular ones. There are diverse villains, but they're lesser known because they were added later when writers actually started to diversify comics.

It is honestly very sad and dangerous when some one can see or refuses to see the evil or wrong in their own doings and ways of thinking. It prevents them from learning and thus dooms them to repeat the same evils. Unless they are forced the face the consequences from an outside source.

We have a great one - Kamala Khan 🤣

Dr Who's had a wheelchair-bound villain since the 70s - Davros.

You have done an amazing job with this video, the lack of self-reflection from the average person in our country is really starting to show. Thank you so much for making a video that people can relate to, I really hope it makes an impact, just like you intended.

Modern villains don't have to just be Straight, White, Christian Men They are also allowed to the be Straight, White, ATHEIST Men too

A powerful separation many people are never able to come to is the difference between empathy and sympathy. It is wholly possible to empathize, deeply, with the pain, fear and rage that drives and shapes people without sympathizing with their actions. Arthur becoming the Joker was a perfect example of a guy that anyone could reasonably empathize with, without having to sympathize with the choices he ultimately made.

What’s funny is that their “heroes” read more like villains than actual heroes.

Something I always believed was the best villains are the ones who believe they are the good guys.

I do at times find villains more interesting than heroes. Sometimes heroes just follow the hero's journey and depending on it they can have the same old story as other heroes or a very compelling one. Villains you can do anything with. You have to have them plot, try to fool others and hide in the background as a mastermind, be up front and take the heroes head on, take over the world, destroy the universe, and so on. The possibilities for villains are endless compared to heroes.

We don´t buy into one-dimensional characters anymore. And that is a struggle that all main comic publishers face today. Specially because many of the stories we're experiencing on the screen are recycled from fairly old arcs and archetypes that translate poorly given today's demographic and social landscape. Hopefully new ideas will let us experiment about rounded characters, and not mere stereotypes like the evil gay or the money hungry businessman.

I could not agree more with your video

Kill monger was legit tryna over throw the world governments and commit ethnic cleansing and we’re all just like “he’s misunderstood”

The most dangerous type of villain isn’t one who embraces his villainy. It’s one who firmly believes he’s doing the right thing and does evil.

Outstanding commentary *tips hat*

I would definitely like a Magneto-esque Man of Color.

Uh... historically villains have always been more diverse. Also mbj' s character wasn't portrayed as a good guy... ppl just latched on to his message. Same thing happened to heath ledger joker

It's regular racism in not letting (culture/subculture you want to protect because you're a liberal) be a villain. It's saying, "this group cannot be characterized negatively, or this will destroy the reputation of the (group)."

This explains so much about our country (world?) today. It's not just comic characters, the way that racism has been valorized these days. The assumption is always that people MUST be engaged primarily as a member of their group and all interaction interpreted as applying to the group and essentially that every person is prejudged by their identity. It's in everything. It makes really boring comic characters and a really sh*tty world.

Funny enough, I'm working on a story myself and the first villain I panned out is an old gang member. He's burnt from head to toe and covered in bandages like Makoto Shishio. He does a ton of fucked up things just to get revenge on one man.

Another great commentary

Magneto is honestly my favorite Villain.

What about Giancarlo Esposito, the guy who acted as Gus Fring in "Breaking Bad" and Edgar in "The Boys" considered by almost everyone as masterpiece actor. For some reason he is not considered a "diverse villain". It looks like if a black person makes a great performance it's not called a diverse role.

Well there was the computer guy from Die Hard... uhm... hol up gimme a minute... Edit: The guy in the Wrecking Crew with the wrecking ball... 2: Tombstone, the albino black dude in Marvel. 3: ... Piccollo. Fight me on it.

You are a good man I I like the work you do

I honestly thought Black Panther was trying to lose the argument "If the roles were reversed, the oppressed could become the oppressors" but maybe it's just been a while since I've seen the movie.

I don’t necessarily care if they’re diverse or not. Give me a well written villain and I’ll like them.

My dude. You gotta make a video on Marvel's newest Heroes: SnowFlake and SafePlace. I'm not even kidding that's what they are called.

We need a compelling villain for our heroes to face and not a villain doing villain stuff for the sake of it, to make a good villain is to give them a backstory to explain why they are like that, like an event that affected them or causes them to such, chemical accident, abandonment, betrayal, war and so on, there are plenty bases to make a a good compelling villain, not a villain with out such, same with heroes as well, so yeah

Where are the diverse villains? In Anime/Manga.

Black Mask in Birds of Prey would have been an example of an irredeemable gay villain if they'd actually explicitly stated he was gay.

Seems to me like a lot of them are all too aware of their villainous side, and actually do want to be the oppressors.

"he is a monster of our own making" the creator cannot control what the audience takes away. the movie itself did not make killmonger out to be an anti-hero. they made him look nuts actually. he poisoned the lady at the gallery for no good reason; he killed his girl the moment she got in his way; he chocked out the lady in the garden of the heart-shaped-herb - none of these women where a threat to him; he had the garden, an ancient, sacred place to 'his' people, burned. in the dream he was unable to take in his father's words of regret. I don't think his messy dreads when he woke were an accident, he was meant to look mad. *BURN IT ALL* who is to be blamed when these vile acts are forgotten? the way in which some folks reacted to the character was alarming but this was not the movie's fault, nor the creators. it's no different to how people reacted to thanos. marvel gave the same treatment to zemo and vulture. watchmen readers reacted in a similar way to the rorschach character, much to alan moore's surprise.

Where are the diverse villains? I think they call them "heroes" because they have to be not only the *best* but also the *worst* cause they can't allow a second out of the spot light, this is their time to shine and no one else's. It's part of the vanity that permeates the groups "the pride" the *exclusivity* as they practice it is that their inclusion means your exclusion.

even if killmonger is black the bad things he does are still looked at and framed as the bad thing and he was being unreasonable literally trying to start a war, it's not like T'challa was gonna let killmonger walk free because he was black he was, sorry that his dad killed his dad cause he was scared he was gonna let wakanda's secrets go free which is also why T'challa gave that "revealing wakanda speech" in the end of the film he didn't want to repeat the mistakes of his ancestors so he decided not to live in the shadows just sayin'

They better bring Klaw back as the real villain he should have been.

They don't have the balls to do it. And it's even worse with white heroes. I think the only exception is Aquaman, who has Black Manta. Green Lantern Kyle Rayner had Fatality, a female alien that happened to be black, as a villain in the 90s, but she became sort of an antihero later on in Geoff Johns' run. And I think that's about it.

It's so weird, it's almost as if "antirracist" actually means "antiwhite"

I'm in agreeance, I headcanon up all sorts of villains that relate to me. I'm very admittedly sick in the mental side of things, but I'm also very into guys and have a gentle nature. I think it's a damn shame that my "crowd" (I don't feel the relation) wants to be above others morally and in terms of power. I'm not even convinced most of these people ARE disparaged. I'm in the hospital every year, but they never have gaps in screentime. Funny how the people speaking "for me" never take the time to be like me. Just fuckin write a good story.

When I see a white male villain, I don't think "I'm being called a villain". I think "I'm not a villain because I'm not evil". When I see a white hero, I think "that's who I want to be", because he's a hero. Likewise, when I see a black hero, I still think "that's who I want to be", because he's the hero. Your point about these creators not being able to separate themselves from their physical characteristics is dead on, and it definitely shows in their works.

The amount of truth that you are spitting is probably lethal to 99.9% of the people that need to hear it.

I think people want good villains first, then once those are perfected, they’ll worry about diversity.

The greatest heroes in western pop culture are too individualistic to be compatible with identity politics. ID politics force you to think in terms of a collective, often the antithesis to the traditional western superhero. People didn’t see themselves in Spiderman because they were white, straight males from New York. They saw themselves in the character because we’ve all had to make a tough choice between responsibility and what we want to do in the moment for our happiness. They saw their own lives in the simple message of “you can help, so you do help” also known as “with great power, comes great responsibility”

Probably the only black villain that decided to just say fuck it and he’s literally only a villain for 30 seconds is mordo

And that's why they can never make a true masterpiece, they'll have to take the ideology which they refuse to do, and even then, they'll still mention it like it was there pushing people away.

I also think that they forget the phrases ”Absolute power corrupts absolutely”, or, ”It rains on the just, and the unjust alike”. There's no humanity behind the current crop of SJW Writers. Evil has no jurisdiction, creed, or race. To quote Literature Devil: "Make your characters dirty, make them harsh, make them say the wrong things, but, above all else, whatever you do, remember to make them... human.”

remember the cartoon static shock? they got it right - anyone could be a hero or a villain, and some didnt even need powers to do it

Where are the diverse villains? They're calling themselves heroes now.

The diverse villains are the SJW "heroes" that are replacing the original heroes.

The problem with group mentality: hard to see a person as a individual.

The are diverse villains already. Just read the latest Marvel and DC releases. Villain protagonists seem to be in the vogue among SJW writers as of late.

Does it matter that we get a black Joker...his face is BLEACHED WHITE!

If there was a dystopian TV show where a feminist is a villain who takes over the "progressive" society and a group of heroes who are normal minorities (especially the white man who is the leader), then it could be interesting to pitch it.

Diverse villains would mean actual diversity, and what it seems like most of these people are actually aiming for is *Supremacy.* They have more in common with Magneto than they realize. This was an excellent breakdown of one of the biggest holes in the way identity politicians think, great video as always.

To quote a female serial killer: “my goal was to kill more people - helpless (or innocent, depending on who’s quoting) people - than any man or woman in history.” Evil comes in all shapes and sizes. This woman found something she was good at and enjoyed. Decided to be the best ever. Surely that’s more interesting than the umpteenth “I was forced to do wrong by men looking down on me.”

It's funny cause one of my favorite villains of the past decade or so was Idris Elba's character from *"Hobbs and Shaw"* I know the movie was a bit meh, but I remember thinking throughout the film how interesting and bad ass he was. And yet could've been even more so. (Idris Elba is just awesome, hope he gets well soon.) I've always felt villains throughout varied and famed story arcs more interesting than the actual heroes themselves. So as a latino, so called, "poc", I find it rather hypocritical of Hollywood excluding the very people they supposedly "champion" from more varied roles, specifically villains. It's almost as if these virtue signaling clowns are kind of...fake? Dont'ya think?

Straight up, as a gay man, I WANT to see a gay villain. Like you said, not a villain BECAUSE he's gay, but a villain AND he's gay. We're all human, we're all just struggling and tumbling through life, and we are the products of our environment. If that environment allows us to be benevolent and kind, we will be. But if it forces us to do horrible things to survive, most of us will. It's like Quark said in one of my favorite episodes of Star Trek: DS9, The Siege of AR-558: "Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon."

Wait. Does that mean I, as a gay guy. Can go out and violate the geneva convention. And ill be the hero in all of this

Its ironic because the "purely evil bad guy" is one of the most diverse roles in all of media i mean you got Frieza, Cell, Thanos, Dio, Sauron, Griffith, Void, Emperor Palps, General Grievous, Joker, DarkSide, Fire Lord Ozai, Scar, Grendel, Ursula, O-Ren Ishii, Catra(og), David Bowie(when hes wearing spandex), Satan, God(Spawn and others), Ryo, Psycho Jenny, Dr.Hell, the Crooked man(Fables...also read Fables/play a wolf among us) etc. heck them being diverse is what makes us love them....there all evil like pure un-redeemable evil....but there JUST SO COOL WHEN THEY DO IT! and i think thats why all of these newer sjw villians are so pathetic. If not for the heavy handed political crap, in a years time....would you even remember them?

I've literally asked this same question to my peers and was shouted down because apparently "Black men have always been made to be villains". That's stupid as shit because a well written villain is nothing but the hero of his own story.

*A villain has to do something that is fundamentally wrong* >Joker breaking Robin's legs with a crowbar Yup that's pretty wrong. >Captain Marvel literally threatens to rip a guy's arm off and steals all of his stuff ... hmmmm

This makes me think of back when the movie Demolition Man came out. Some people were up in arms about Wesley Snipes playing the villain. Basically arguing that he was having to play the villain because he was black. In, I believe, an Entertainment Tonight interview, Snipes said (paraphrasing) that it was ridiculous to think that and that this time he was playing the villain but next time he would probably get to play the hero. Because that's the way acting works. Besides, it's much more fun to get to play the villain.

Rei and her hang were so evil, they killed the star wars franchise and they are quite diverse they even have their own token

I remember going to a talk in 1995 given by a black writer, Langston Hughes, who said that the way he knew prejudice was on the decline in the US was that we had a lot of black villains in movies and TV shows. People who were prejudiced against blacks would not find it credible that a black villain could go toe-to-toe with a white hero, and having a black hero could just be virtue-signaling. (He didn't use that exact term as it wasn't en vogue yet, but words to that effect) Whereas casting a black villain showed that you really didn't care what race the person was. Needless to say we've come a long way down since 1995.

I suspect it's not even a lack of imagination, though that may be part of it. These people may actually be incapable of differentiating fantasy and reality.

These "heroes" are sometimes just villain protagonists.

Easiest way to spot the villian today, white man... Great video, evil is evil