kemery22222 that's exactly what i think. It's the nicest thing ever, it means the guy listen to you. And sincerly i do not need u to spend so much money on me, am in for you, not the money! Tamar is seriously immature most of the times.
I thought it was very thoughtful. Not to mention the effort he put in too making her sandwich and making sure it was gluten free to her favourite chocolate. Its the little things that count. I would have no problem going on a picnic date.
+StingingwithqueenC I am A guy and I love the picnic idea,but I think going on a picnic with someone on the first date is thoughtful but dangerous because you do not know that person well enough to trust them with your food such as they can poison you or slip a drug in on you without you knowing so you have to be very careful when you go on a picnic, it has happend to a lot of my friends.
I thought the what Freddie did was so romantic. Listening to Loni and Tamar made me realize there are really some ungrateful people in this world. Somebody goes through all that trouble for you, making all the things you love, and you say it's about the coin or I want to be able to call my friends.
Everyone has preferences just as everyone has opinions. No matter what, the right guy will fit the preferences or probably exceed your expections. I can't knock anyone for their preference. If I like ghirardelli and you like hersheys or vice versa, so be it.
MsDallen2011 heck if some cute guy just takes me to mcdonalds i'd be happy. hahah i'm just gonna lay it out there, i'm 21 and I'm an all out virgin who has never dated and have never kissed any guy. now that's understandable because I'm gay and I don't have a community for things like that, BUT i'd be soooo delighted and happy if a guy takes me somewhere romantic you know. idk if my statistics is screwed up but i feel like it's rare for people to engage in something romatic these days like an intimate picnic or candle light dinner or something with all the work, and restaurants or idk malls just being erected in every corner of every city (not that it's a bad thing) but the fact that a dude is willing to make effort...that speaks volumes.
Miss Chansa I think she just don't like super intimacy on the first date . Thats why she kept saying I dont like you like that . Which is understandable , ONLY when you know what you dealing with .
Shade Alert: Soooooo..... Jeannie's rose garden date was LESS romantic than Adrienne's circus date? I'm missing something here...... Both dates to me are creative, however, the shade that's constantly being thrown to Jeannie everytime she's tells a personal story, which is also low key shade to Freddie, is right damn ridiculous. That's why I love Tamera, because she doesn't hesitate to step up for Jeannie when necessary. Like damn, fall back sometimes!
Well I'm not sure if it was meant as shade. It was just not what the Tamar would do. We can all see Tamar doesn't like the outdoors. It's comes with bugs, heat and other things. I wouldn't typically like a outdoor date because that's not the type of person I am. It all depends on the person. I wouldn't tell them at the time I didn't like it because it would sound rude, but I would remind them I don't like the outdoors.
Makiyah Jackson C'mon now.....you know Tamar can be 'Queen of the Shade'. They all have their lil ways about them, she's just more outspoken and upfront with hers. Love Tamar, but I believe I tasted a hint of hate & paprika, but hey what do I know? 😞
Redayvn Hughley I feel you 100% but I actually think Tamar handled it well this time. She didn't get all extra like "Girl don't nobody want no picnic on a first date, get to life!" She just expressed that she wouldn't be into that for a FIRST date. I thought she was more polite in how she disagreed than in the past, if that makes sense. She didn't totally shut Jeannie down. Just my take.. I think this season they've gotten better with each other overall too.
Anonymous So why are you so in YOUR feelings about other people's opinions? Do you personally KNOW Tamar or something? You clearly haven't been keeping up with MY comments personally, for you would know that I don't bash her every chance I get. She's done nothing to me personally, so why would I get that caught up? Imma need some people to stop being such a super fan, and understand that everyone's opinions are just that.......opinions. My opinions change for NO ONE. No one said they didn't like Tamar. I've said something about all of them, good and bad, so please take your protest elsewhere, it's just not that damn serious.
Here we go again. Just because they don't agree with Jeannie doesn't mean they're shading her. They just don't agree. Ya'll always reading into something.
I like Jeannie's first date! Why must a man spend so much on a first date to impress you? A picnic is fine with me. Maybe, our 1 year anniversary, you can take me on that 7 course meal dinner. The circus idea was also cute, but I agree that creativity is much better than spending all kinds of money on me. I don't want my man thinking that only money will bring me happiness, I deserve more than that. I deserve your time, thoughts, and love, not your entire bank account.
I know, right? Talk about superficiality. My current relationship, my first date was to a mini golf course because I had mentioned that I had never been in a random conversation, then because there was an Ikea nearby (I wanted to go check out their new inventory) we ended up eating there instead of the restaurant he wanted to take me. Dude knows why he took Loni on a 7-course meal. That's a whole lot of woman to feed. Smhh!!! She is so mean. And, Tamar with her uppity self. Who calls their gf in the middle of a date? Grown women still act this way? SMH!!
Jeanie idea and experience with hubby is sweet. Tamar I think it's high time your place and give Jeanie a chance to express herself. With that 7 course dinner and loni as desert. The dude didnot marry u. Know ur place hun.
I would choose creativity over quantity everytime. That Freddy took Jeannie to a picnic was soo sweet. That sweeter than a fancy restaurant...And he even remebered she didnt eat gluten free was a plus
I kinda feel like they really secretly thought the picnic was sweet, but one( Loni) couldn't be the odd one and agree about how sweet the picnic really was. Jealousy and peer pressure is a trip even in the 30's and 40's as they were at the time. I see that at play here. Because Tamar was heming and hawing, Loni for the sake of inclusion ( w/ Tamar) had to go along to get along imo.
I think it's okay for different women to like different first dates. I love me some Tamar but she has a problem with "Agreeing to Disagree". It's Okay if the other women doesn't want a 5 Star restaurant for their first date. It's totally fine to have different preferences.
I wouldn't like the picnic date only because I do not like eating outside. Between my allergies and the annoying bugs I would not enjoy myself at all lol but the thought is very cute.
Love Alexis I know what you mean, My mom tried to set up a nice picnic on the outside of an amusement park we sat under a tree it wasn't too sunny, good. Well Did she forget she hates loud noises and a lot of people around her food, plus little kids running around and bugs... Long story short, we ended up going back to the car to eat... and Never did that again.
This may sound lame but my favorite first date was when me and this guy went to the mall. Yes, the mall! I was picking out stuff that I thought would look cute on him, and he did the same for me, I tried stuff on for him and all. Food court, we chatted for what seemed like forever. We were sampling eachother food! Cacking and flirting non stop. Chile, we spent the whole day in that bad boy! For some reason I loved it. I was wild comfortable with him because of this. Ahh memories.
Lina Luv That's the example of a perfect first date. Allowing yourselves just to be fun and not having forced conversation over a $500 plate of food. Tamar and Loni would be boring to date. They would probably hate amusement parks, laser tag, go karts and more.
Luv4Animexoxo Have you seen her on the Braxton's show. She hates and complains anytime they do anything outside or fun. "Ew why we outside?!?!" "Ew Animals!! "Ew dirt!"
I like the picnic date. Definitely shows that he was listening if he gets things that I like. I don't care what I eat on a date. I'm with Jeannie when it comes to if a guy has a problem with what I'm eating. I'm eating whatever I want. I definitely agree with watching how drinks you have.
If Tamera thinks first impressions are everything for the first date and couples should go to the most expensive or impressive place, why is it okay to eat ribs in front of dude? I Don't like that they talk down on all of Jeannie's ideas. If Freddie knew her favorite drinks and food, that shows he listens to her and that they knew each other well enough for him to do that.
They said first date. How long do you take to have your first date with a guy? Not within the first month for the most? How much do you trust someone within a first month? Those days are gone with the wind and are in fairy-tales. It's dangerous to have someone you barely know handle your food like that knowing that some men turn out to be really 'not what they seem'. He could drug you and take you anywhere and do you anything. The circus idea is just the same but not so bad because you can excuse yourself and claim "washroom break" and step away to call a friend. Waiting at least a few months is better.
Tricia Constantine So it's impossible to be FRIENDS with someone before you grow romantic interest? I'd bet the majority of steady marriages are between two people who were friends long before they started dating. It's idiotic to assume they'd known each other for less than a month just because you apparently go around with some kind of forehead radar that automatically decides whether a person you meet you're going to date the literal second you meet them. People can start dating after years of knowing each other, the shade people are throwing is just stupid.
peacenothate I'll never disagree with what you said but I do know people who've only met each other from 'hook-ups'. 2 of them actually have long marriages and the others are still in relationships. So I was making a statement based upon what I know too. Some people DO meet in a date-like settings and start off small and they grew on each other. I do see couples start off like that as well.
It was sweet, touching and original and they KNOW this. I think there was a bit of jealousy perhaps that theirs weren't as original, so why not rain on Jeannies parade. And Loni trying to get a laugh at Jeannie's expense by referring to her date as "brokeness"was in poor taste. Rotten bad manners!!! Much envy!!
I think Freddie already knew a lot about Jennie (they probably started off as friends) before their first picnic date which is what makes it ok. He knew her favourite dark chocolate, Rosé, etc. For most first dates, you're literally just getting to know the person and what they like and so camping out with food alone is just weird, in my opinion.. which is why I get where Tamar is coming from saying she doesn't like/ know them like that yet. You don't just go out on a picnic with someone you barely know (assuming it's only the first date) as it's more intimate, again, in my opinion.
Oh my gosh THE SHADEEEEEE! Tamar is so rude for continuously bashing Jeanie's picnic date like we get it you think its weird but Jeanie seemed genuinely happy about it. Tamar needs to shut up sometimes
My first date with my now boyfriend was simple and cute, we went to a little coffee shop downtown and sat outside and talked for hours sipping on some coffee and he definitely stepped up the game after that. You want to get to know the person on the first date
I don't like how they did Jeanie. You don't have to spend thousands on a date. She liked it & Freddy liked it. That's all that matters, Loni & Tamar were rude for that.
While all the ladies just going awww for Jeanie, Tamar just had to ruin the vibe and had to be the one thinking differently. SMDH! When Adriene talked about her circus date, Tamar went back to being nice and an angel. Now part of me feels like if Jeanie had said she went to the circus she be straight saying that's wack bla bla bla and acted other way round if Adrienne or any other ladies said their date was in picnic. I most definitely 10000% think Jeanie's date was deep and valuable and it was more about the quality than the amount of money spent, and the ladies obv got touched by that, except the expensive Tamar and Loni, why they think how much money their date has is the key to success in the relationship in comparison to how much creativity a man puts. The logic.
Dear Tamar it's not everyday let's disagree with Jeannie okay? A well thought out picnic date can be so lovely and romantic, anyway that's what majority of the folk did way back in day when chivalry and being a gentlemen was very much in existence amongst the men. :)
I think first impressions are a subjective matter. What may impress Jeannie may not impress Tamar (and vice versa); however, that doesn't mean the picnic date was any less impressive or well-thought-out than going to a place "with a bathroom."
Well I think we all understand that Tamar is VEEEERY shallow, so I get where she is coming from. I'd rather sit in the restaurant too, BUT in the picnic scenario (and things similar), to have someone who cares that much is gonna most likely be a good fit for you in the long run. It all depends on how well you *KNOW* them before the first date.
Tamar is confused. Jeannie and her husband were good friends before they started dating. Tamar is thinking about like a blind date or going out on a date with someone you've only known for like a few days or a week.
madmann1000 I thought about that while they were talking, although I wasn't quite sure if Jeanie knew her husband prior to the date. I think knowing them as friend first makes some difference.
I think they were talking about two different scenarios. I can understand Tamar and Loni's point of view, when this is your first initial meeting with "your date", and you've never met this person before, I can understand why a Picnic may not be a good "First Date". On the other hand, if you're Jeannie and Adrianne's case, where you were FRIENDS with "your date" PRIOR to being romantically involved, a Picnic isn't a bad idea because you already know the person, they're not gonna kidnap you. So, I understand both sides, I think they just weren't understanding that initial difference. There's "court" dating, like Tamera has mentioned prior, where you're trying to "find somebody", and there's getting involved romantically, with somebody you've known for awhile. TWO different scenarios.
knp814 no really, why is that happening???? everyone knows no white bra under the white top unless you are purposely trying to accentuate the outfit with your bra, like back when they had the day glo bras....
This is why Tamar isn't on there anymore. (Please don't attack me because I love Tamar but I'm simply stating my perspective as a general viewer) It's one thing to have an opinion and all but that's YOUR opinion. No need to borderline belittle Jeanie for appreciating the small things because YOU want a typical restaurant date with plates.
I like Jeannie and Adrienne first dates. It's different yet simple. Especially Jeannie's because it showed that her he listened to the things to like and put it all together in a picnic.
Loni and Tamar! Wow!! I thought firstly loni love was supposed to be a mediator! What a disgrace for coming down on Jeannie like that. Firstly let me just say that picnic was the start of what is now a beautiful marriage. Loni - sleeping around on your first day regardless of the number of courses does not a classy date make. Tamar is just a bully. It's clear from the a lot of the comments that I'm not the only one thinking it. What did Jeannie do to you? Apart from look better, achieve more and have a marriage full of deep emotional love? Oh. Right. I get it. Jealousy
I love the picnic idea it's sweet, thoughtful, creative, and most of all refreshing. I mean you can go out on a 1st date with plenty of guys to a fancy restaurant, and let him pay for the $200.00 meal but if it's the size of his wallet that impresses you you're in it for the wrong reasons.
Jeanie's date sounded so cute I would rather that over any expensive restaurant as a first date it shows that he listens BUT if he were to take me to my favorite restaurant that's also fine too.
This segment is so annoying: Adrienne goes on a date to the circus, cute; romantic but Jeannie goes to a picnic and it's not okay. Reasons why Loni is still single and she's older than all of them and Jeannie has been married for 8 years. They just always gotta find a way to make Jeannie feel bad about herself. A picnic is so cute and movie like. It's not all about money and sex. Freddie paid attention to what Jeannie likes which is cute and very important. Shouldn't that get praised? Everything else is ok but Jeannie's one is always bad. Seriously it's so frustrating not only is Tamar and Loni throwing hateful shade at Jeannie but also to her man saying he didn't do good enough and him making food for his girl is bad and that's horrible. We all know Tamar and Loni are really jealous of her, so we understand but it's so rude they need to listen to her and stop finding every excuse to hate on her, because it's getting too high school around here and it's really hard to watch.
If a dude ever spent $4000 on me I would judge him negatively. Unless he's a millionaire he should not be spendin money recklessly like that hell no I'm not gonna date someone that gon spend like that lol i like Lenny and Adrienne's first date best
Adam has a winery so he has a lot money plus it was over a four month time span nd he was the one that told Tamera to order whatever she wanted so he care
***** if you're measuring the wellness of your date by the amount of money he spent that is borderline golddigger. It is fine to no appreciate a man spending money on you if you grew up in a low income home and learned the value of a dollar.
My first date with my current boyfriend for a year next week was at a restaurant and we just ordered drinks and we talked for hours..that was cool 😊😊👍🏻👍🏻
OMG MY MAN TOOK ME TO THE CIRCUS ON MY FIRST DATEEE! It was the first best date I've ever been on and we've been going every year for a few years now! Thought I was the only one! I nearly dropped my plate of food when he said that...Love Adrienne!
I don't know about you guys but I feel a really heavy burden when someone spends a lot of money on me. Idk, it just doesn't feel very courteous to me to allow myself to accept so much on a first date. The picnic thing for me would have been perfect! A romantic day and you save a few pennies:) So I shall respectfully disagree with Tamar and Loni on that one. And he even took the time to make vegan sandwiches!! Come on! I get really happy when someone even remembers my birthday let alone a card or gifts! I'm just someone who likes to give love and don't mind not receiving it:) makes the world a little bit more colourful I guess!
Am i the only 1 that thinks first impressions dont matter? I mean, its very rare that someone will be completely theirselves with u when u just meet, and i dont expect them to be. Their true self and personality, whatever it may be, will be revealed as time goes by.. I dont even remember the first impression of most of the people i know
my rule is: don't order something that you yourself can't afford. Also going to an expensive restaurant on a first date is so boring, i'd rather go to the circus like adrienne did.
My mom went on a picnic for her first date, extremely cute idea!! It has been three years now, and his kids and I absolutely adore each other. I really think this is the year he proposes!!!!!
They were hating on the picnic but thought the circus was a good date? Lmao. Picnics are the best. A man holding a basket, a blanket, and possibly flowers for you is everything. No dude who is after just your body would do such a thing for a girl.
I love when first dates are at my favourite restaurant or if you bring me to a picnic and bring my favourite food. Tamar is so extra and materialistic omg everything doesn't have to be fancy
I love Tamar's and Loni's different perspectives, 'i don't like you like that yet' its true i actually think its respectful to not act like youre very close to someone before you're actually close to them..
I'm with Tamar and I'd think I'd need a bathroom near by to hit up a friend if it all goes wrong. Whenever I go out with a dude for the first time I tell a friend & make sure I can hit them up once or twice throughout the date to check in bc people are crazy. If it's a picnic & I can see a public bathroom nearby we all good.
Don't know why people think Tamar is being shady. I agree with both of them. It's cute but not for a first. Tiny lil thang like me can get killed easily. Need to know the dude a few months in for that trust to soak in.
Jeanette How do any of you know that Freddie was a random stranger? If he pulled out ALL HER FAVORITE THINGS and he was a total stranger *obviously* she'd be creeped out. It's amazing how people criticize someone without using common sense. "Oh, but not on the first date." "Oh, but I need to know you first." If Freddie did something like this its pretty obvious the two were well acquainted before hand.
peacenothate When did I say Freddie was a random stranger? I didn't say anything negative about Jeannie or Freddie. I said I agree with Tamar because on a first date (whether I'm well acquainted with a guy or not) this is exactly what I do blahblahblah..I go to the bathroom check my hair, text my friends, whatever. & you know creeps aren't always strangers right? "It's amazing how people criticize someone without using common sense."
You need to check your hair and text your friends while on a date? Only one of those seems acceptable for someone beyond the age of 16. And it was pretty clear Tamar was disagreeing with Jeannie. So yes it is amazing how people criticize people without using common sense. But, to each their own.
also loni is the one who isn't married or engaged and yet she thinks she knows the most about men. clearly you don't cause you can't keep none. #satisfiedandsinglemyass
