Yaseen Sadan hahaha lmao. You aren't the only one bro. My mom thinks whey kills my kidney and liver. They other day I was feeling like shit cuz I was sad and my mom blamed supplements lol. The struggle is real
Why should it be? Absolutely 0 study has proven anything about the power of the catabolism (or I missed it and I would be glad to see it :)). The research is pretty clear about the fact that keeping amino acid levels high in the blood is counter productive. Only the peak of BCAA is important (reason behind the fact the Whey is superior in gaining strength and mass). Looking at the evidences we can gather, this only seems to apply when one don't get sufficient protein intake. It seems that the more you take proteins, the less the timing and the protein type is important. I highly recommend you to read the studies from Brad Schoenfeld. They are always well designed, transparent and highly detailed. ;)
My name is Wei, I didn't know Whey was pronounced Way like Wei until long after I started taking Whey, and I was like NO WAY?! I thought Whey was Wee, but no... Whey is Whey like Way, and Wei. So I'm gonna stick with Whey Hurray!
I've always been a fan of utilizing both. Whey throughout the day when you are actually active, and a casein shake right before going to sleep. You won't feel so starved when you wake up in the morning, and the slower digestion/absorption of casein will last the whole night, rather than the first couple of hours. If you are going to go a long while without food (maybe you're at work and don't get frequent breaks), maybe switch to casein for that instead. Everyone's body is different, everyone's schedule is different. Figure out what works best for you.
Exactly. I use casien for longer gaps between meals and in the evening after big lift days. Or for days i am short on protein ill use it to get the numbers up in a way itll stay in my system longer. Whey is for during/right after the gym.
Muscle protein synthesis takes place during the first 24 to 48 hours after a workout. Taking whey post workout doesnt make a difference. There is no post workout anabolic window. What you want is steady flow of amino acids to your muscles, therefore casein is the best supplement. I started cutting down on whey and upping my casein intake a few weeks ago, never seen better effects. Not saying whey cannot build muscle. However, since muscle protein synthesis takes in 24-48 hours, you will need much more whey to give you the same effects as the steady flow that casein can give you.
Casein at night was a wonder maker for me. it depends on ones body, but the slow protein release definitely yielded me more lean gains than whey did. could vary from person to person
Casein is so much more versitaile, 50g neutral Casein + 180g milk, ~10g baking coco, sweetner, mix it up and throw it in the fridge for a few minutes = Chocolate Pudding. Also in Pancakes Casein is much superior because it makes them much fluffier.
Love these videos. I actually take a protein blend after working out that contains both whey and casein, along with other proteins like egg. Seems to do the trick for me and is definitely easier on the wallet than buying both separately.
Thanks for the video. I'm 68 years old. Given I'm in the age group for concerns regarding sarcopenia, the loss of skeletal muscle mass due to aging, I am eliminating supplementing whey protein. I will continue supplementing casein to augment my protein source if foods . I'm focusing on the long run minimal impact of sarcopenia.
Casein is the choice if you have a habit of eating before bedtime.I personally like to drink both because i focus on fast results with very hard training EVERYDAY. I have gained 5kg of muscle mass in just a few months. I also drink Amino Acids BCAA. I have also lost much fat percentage.
To me PictureFit is always the first channel I go to when I have a question or am curious about something. Then I will go to other channels to see what they say. PictureFit is the gold standard when it comes to information and delivery of information. Keep it up
What I was able to withdraw from this video was that whey is to better build muscle whilst casein is to better preserve muscle. Guess I'll use whey to help reach my physical goal and then use casein to preserve my physique God-willing I reach it. Excellent informative video BTW!
Important benefits of casein protein: Doesn't taste like old moldy cheese. Casein actually tastes so well that it is used in most protein bars. It upsets the stomach a lot less and is less likely to give you head aches.
I would go for both, but if I am budget tight, I prefer Casein only.. Since it protects muscle breakdown more effectively + natural foods which can balance the shortage that whey can provide. . My goal lean muscle mass.. My body type= lean one..
Dude this just came right on time! Ive been training in the gym for almost 2 years without any supplements, now my mom's friends gave me a 2lb whey protein I am really happy I always wanted one of this protein powders, they are ridiculous expensive here so I couldn't afford one.. I'm from Venezuela!
Παντελης Σαχπαζιδης No, proteins primary function is just to speed up recovery and reduce lactic acid buildup. He will increase strength and mass over time, but it isn't immediate.
I use NutraBio Muscle Matrix Protein, which has a 55% Whey Isolate and 45% Casein blend (25g total protein) per serving. This is my go to protein. I take it in the morning, after workout, and before bed.
Thank you for the info! It takes lots of reading through specialized articles to get the info and draw the results! Something I can't do . Thank you for providing me with the useful information for free that will help me in daily life !
just found your channel recently ... great content I really appreciate the hard work. so since both whey and casein are from milk ... does drinking milk reap all the benefits? and if so are there any down sides? plus how much should one drink to get an equivalent of a scoop of each?
The "downside" of milk is that it contains all the natural ingredients, including lactose and fat. For people that are seeking protein exclusively, the other natural ingredients aren't desired. A typical protein shake contains roughly 25-35g of protein per scoop. You can compare that to a serving of milk and multiply it accordingly.
Una explicación perfecta! Me ha aclarado mucho las dudas que tenía y me ha permitido identificar de una forma sencilla y rápida qué es lo que más me conviene. Gracias por el contenido!
I'd want to know if a mixture in both would be interesting. You'd get the early spike from the whey but the sustained levels from casein. But would it be better than a whey intake right before/after workout and casein during the day
It would maybe be the same... With whey, you ideally want 29 grams of whey protein to get the 3 grams of leucine right after working out, so as the maximum anabolic response hits at the same time as the height of the muscle protein synthesis. If you mixed half and half (whey & casein), you would fall short of that 3g of leucine hitting ~2 hours after the intense workout. With casein you get slow-release protein benefits during that extended not-peaked Muscle Protein Synthesis time. So either maximise the short-term peak Or get the benefits of the duration Or mix them together and get less of a short-term peak, which is not ideal, but extra duration to make up for it. Since the anabolic response doesn't have to be maxed out to get benefits. Likewise the duration isn't as long, which isn't ideal, but the peak is higher. So maybe it's a wash. So what if one got their full 3 grams of leucine via 29 grams of whey protein up front, and then 3 hours later once that peak wears off, drink the full amount of casein, to continue getting a protein supply during that Muscle Protein Synthesis (that lasts ages longer than I realised, after I started typing this comment)... MPS (not the absolute peak) actually lasts so long that yea you could just consume casein whenever, there's no rush at all lol (or eat food instead if you want, that's also slow releasing like casein). Edit: Wait I somehow just recalled that concentrate protein powders are often a blend. So your comment is already pretty standard practice in the industry. If you get isolates that won't be the case. I don't personally have a single use for isolates once I looked into what it actually is.
Food usually has a low whey density, so I prefer whey and get my casein through dairy. Even though I only take whey as a supp, I always end up getting more casein anyways. A "quark shake" (400ml low fat vitamin-enriched milk and 250-350g quark) right before bedtime is what I do instead of a casein shake.
I've always heard that they're 2 parts of a stack. Whey is for immediately after a workout, and casein is for bedtime. The casein releases slowly during sleep, causing the muscles to repair faster and bigger. We all know sleep is when the muscles repair mostly any way, so the logic is to give your body something to eat during those 8 hours.
I don't really take good advantage of the short mps time frame after a work out, yet I stay pretty active throughout the whole day. Seems like casein would be the better option for me
Why is casein the little bro as there is 4 times more of it in milk? Which also makes it interesting why is casein more expensive as a supplement than whey? Usually the rarer stuff is more expensive.
whey is probably easier to produce. i believe Whey is just a byproduct from cheese manufacturing, and they decided that rather than throwing that shit away, they'll add some fancy flavors (or not), package it and sell it for some pretty decent profit. why not make money off of stuff you just used to throw away amirite?
He doesn't make video's on steroids. And If I may answer my self, no they are not. You will permanently fuck up your own testosterone production ( might become less than before ) and they can cause a lot of other side effects, if you stop using them you lose almost all the gains. And you can't use them for ever unless you want to get really ill, so you will lose it anyway. better is to focus on creating your own steroids ( testosterone production )
you cant change the muscle shape, at least not naturally (without operation), it can only grow the way it is. Blame genetics for muscle form but not muscle size.
this. it's theorized to work, but it's believed to only adds about 1 inch to your overall length. this also has to be done before your skeletal plates have closed. holding your breath is also believed to increase natural HGH levels, so try holding your breath while doing H I I T, and it might give you a little growth spurt.
Let me make this easier for new consumers: If you guys want to lose weight by eating less, Casein is better for you. You can literally go an entire day without being hungry after drinking Casein. But, if you're trying to lose weight & build muscle by working out a lot, whey is for you
Dennis Chavez you see, PG wants to make this harder for himself and therefore goes about judging people with a closed mind about things he believes should stay difficult
Ive been bulking, but i just caught a fever. It took about 5 lbs out of me. Is this something to worry about or is it just water weight? Should it be easy to regain when im healthy again and any tips like what to eat with fever? Thanks
+PictureFit Thank you very much for your reply. Also I have another question. If you are in your teens and want to get slim but healthily what do you have to do? Could you make a video for this?
Hi, good video, but if you was to suplement yourself with BCAAs and Casein protein then wouldnt you get the best of both ? I also wanted to ask you a different question. If I was to limit my strength training and start doing more cardio/endurance training, but I would keep my caloric intake high. Would I still lose weight?
no, it is good to get cardio too. Think of it like this, will your body atrophy its muscles because of running? no it won't. You lose weight when you use more energy than your calorie intake provides forcing the body to dip into fat stores
ywecur_ Plant based powders are easier to digest and for me that's essential. Also it's for the ethical reasons of animal exploitation. I use hemp and pea which are both available at a shop in town in any quantity i need so it isnt that much of a bother. You can also buy pre combined formulas. Here are examples ca.bodybuilding.com/store/plantprotein.html?_requestid=761166
It would be great to see a video on the links between protein and raised IGF1 and therefore cancer. Plus protein that doesn't increase risk e.g. plant sources
How about eating something a couple of hours before gym (gym for two hours somewhere between 5-9pm), a whey protein shake right after gym, and a nice, full of protein meal one or two hours after the gym?
How does working out increase bone density, Please do research on that, bone mass and exercise, and other benefits of lifting excluding muscle and weight loss.
how did you get to the point of 97% protein will be absorbed in to the body? given the Protein digestibility-corrected amino acid score or PDCAAS is it up to a score of 1.0?
so does that mean that casein is better suited for "hardgainers" that typically have a faster metabolism? reason why i ask is since casein is slowly absorbed compared to whey you might have more stable/reliable results from it, especially when consuming casein first thing in the morning and a couple hours before bed... that's my hypothesis anyway.
